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Hi,

This is in response to Elyse and the general discussion about the

UNVACINATED AUTISM CASES. Yes, I too had a grandma that smoked and drank

for 50 years and never developed lung cancer or cirrhosis. Yes there

will always be exception to the general trend. Buts there is a general

trend. Should it be ignored? It's been demonstrated that those

vaccinated with mercury containing products are at increased risk of

developing autism. Sorry if you don't agree with this, if not, then you

did not take the time to properly review the literature. Just because

unvaccinated children go on to acquire ASD does not mean that exposure

does not come from a plethora of other sources. There is extensive

published evidence that mercury exposure in the general population is

ubiquitous and present in food, air, water and medicine

supply...including flu and Rho D. The American Academy of Pediatrics

recommends flu shouts for children under 3 AND pregnant women. How

remiss is that? There is no excuse anymore to allow mercury in flu shots

or any product. There is even mercury in high fructose corn syrup (do

the research).

Best, Ray

________________________________

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

elyse14

Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:47 PM

Subject: Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children

Sorry but without violating HIPPA laws there are many children in

DR.GOLDBERG'S PRACTICE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN VACCINATED!! They still have

the " A " diagnosis

Elyse Goldberg

>

> http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm

<http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm>

>

> NO AUTISM In

> Never-Vaccinated Children

>

>

> From Alan Cantwell MD

>

> From Philip Rudnick PhD

> 3-8-9

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Drs. Eisenstein and Bradstreet:

>

> Re: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

>

>

> In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of never-

vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through Illinois'

relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical director,

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of autism in

never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175, according to

the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a fairly large

practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children

that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a

single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received

vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein said. " The numbers

are too large to not see it. We would absolutely know. We're all family

doctors. If I have a child with autism come in, there's no

communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's not

something that anyone would miss. "

>

> Now that you've told us what you " think " , when will you collect the

facts and publish the results?

>

> -------------------------------

>

> " Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

see no autism in this group. " "

>

> Now that you've told us what you " can " do, when will you do it and

publish the results?

>

> Sincerely yours,

>

> Philip Rudnick, PhD

> Professor Emeritus, Chemistry

> West Chester University of Pennsylvania

>

>

> Dan Olmsted

>

> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

>

> " A specter is haunting the medical and journalism establishments of

the United States: Where are the unvaccinated people with autism? "

---Dan Olmsted

>

> [Dan Olmsted did the research the vaccine industry and media refused

to do and found little or no autism in the unvaccinated Amish and

Homefirst Medical Services children.]

>

> Web: http://www.ageofautism.com/ <http://www.ageofautism.com/>

>

>

>

>

> " I have not seen autism with the Amish, " said Dr. Noonan, a

family practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands

of Amish for a quarter-century. " You'll find all the other stuff, but we

don't find the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and

seeing none, and that's just the way it is. "

>

> In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of

never-vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through

Illinois' relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical

director, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of

autism in never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175,

according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a

fairly large practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or

35,000 children that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't

think we have a single case of autism in children delivered by us who

never received vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein

said. " The numbers are too large to not see it. We would absolutely

know. We're all family doctors. If I have a child with autism come in,

there's no communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's

not something that anyone would miss. "

>

> Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

see no autism in this group. "

>

>

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605-

3532r

<http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605

-3532r>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Feb 2008] MMR AND THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT AUTISM Does the measles-

mumps-rubella vaccine cause autism? I vote yes. Of course, that's just

one man's opinion - but one who's spent the last three years listening

to parents and enlightened pediatricians and combing through adverse

events reports and just generally trying to think for himself.

>

> OLMSTED, THE AMISH AND AUTISM By Mark Blaxill

>

> [Oct 2007] Olmsted on Autism: I'm not vaclempt!

>

> [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1 By Dan Olmsted

> vaccines/olm44.html

>

> The Age of Autism: The story so far By DAN OLMSTED

>

> The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret' By Dan Olmsted

> The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly By Dan Olmsted

>

> [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Christian's mom speaks By Dan Olmsted

>

> The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill By DAN OLMSTED copy Expect

to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from the powers that

be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't, shouldn't and really

mustn't be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

>

>

> The Age of Autism: Critics have their say

> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work

> The Age of Autism: Regression

> The Age of Autism: More sick kids

> The Age of Autism: A whole-body illness

> The Age of Autism: The Amish Elephant

> The Age of Autism: Showdown in Santa Fe

> The Age of Autism: Nuts

> The Age of Autism: Facts say maybe

> The Age of Autism: Flu shot flashpoint

> The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret'

> The Age of Autism: Case Number 88924

> The Age of Autism: 'My child is toxic'

> The Age of Autism: Adverse events

> The Age of Autism: Connecting new dots

> The Age of Autism: March of the experts

> The Age of Autism: New in Name Only

> The Age of Autism: But What about 1930?

> The Age of Autism: Videos

> The Age of Autism: Amish Genes

> The Age of Autism: Concerned in Tennessee

> The Age of Autism: Question of the Year

> The Age of Autism: The story so far

> The Age of Autism: Missing in Mississippi

> The Age of Autism: Gold Salts Pass a test

> The Age of Autism: Gold?

>

>

>

> Love, Gabby. :0)

> http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

<http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/>

>

> " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even

God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~

Jerry Newport

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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What I understand from Ray's comments is that we live in a very toxic

environment. I cringe when there is debate about vaccinations and whether or not

they cause autism because I feel it diminishes the energy that could/should be

used to finding a solution. Too many vaccinations with too many impurities is

just one of the issues. My hope is that this wasted energy will stop and that we

can unite and say that the toxic world we have created and we have to live in is

making us sick (ASD is just one illness after all), that we want to stop

throwing mercury laced batteries and lightbulbs in the landfills, that we do

what we can to eliminate the two US-sized patches of plastics that are floating

in the oceans and leaching toxins into the food chain, that we stop driving

gas-guzzlers for every little errand, etc. etc. and that we find ways to fortify

our immune systems to have good quality of life.

Can we please unite on the MUCH bigger picture and start doing something about

it???

Kristy

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children

Sorry but without violating HIPPA laws there are many children in

DR.GOLDBERG'S PRACTICE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN VACCINATED!! They still have

the " A " diagnosis

Elyse Goldberg

>

> http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm

<http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm>

>

> NO AUTISM In

> Never-Vaccinated Children

>

>

> From Alan Cantwell MD

>

> From Philip Rudnick PhD

> 3-8-9

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Drs. Eisenstein and Bradstreet:

>

> Re: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

>

>

> In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of never-

vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through Illinois'

relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical director,

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of autism in

never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175, according to

the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a fairly large

practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children

that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a

single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received

vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein said. " The numbers

are too large to not see it. We would absolutely know. We're all family

doctors. If I have a child with autism come in, there's no

communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's not

something that anyone would miss. "

>

> Now that you've told us what you " think " , when will you collect the

facts and publish the results?

>

> -------------------------------

>

> " Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

see no autism in this group. " "

>

> Now that you've told us what you " can " do, when will you do it and

publish the results?

>

> Sincerely yours,

>

> Philip Rudnick, PhD

> Professor Emeritus, Chemistry

> West Chester University of Pennsylvania

>

>

> Dan Olmsted

>

> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

>

> " A specter is haunting the medical and journalism establishments of

the United States: Where are the unvaccinated people with autism? "

---Dan Olmsted

>

> [Dan Olmsted did the research the vaccine industry and media refused

to do and found little or no autism in the unvaccinated Amish and

Homefirst Medical Services children.]

>

> Web: http://www.ageofautism.com/ <http://www.ageofautism.com/>

>

>

>

>

> " I have not seen autism with the Amish, " said Dr. Noonan, a

family practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands

of Amish for a quarter-century. " You'll find all the other stuff, but we

don't find the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and

seeing none, and that's just the way it is. "

>

> In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of

never-vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through

Illinois' relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical

director, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of

autism in never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175,

according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a

fairly large practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or

35,000 children that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't

think we have a single case of autism in children delivered by us who

never received vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein

said. " The numbers are too large to not see it. We would absolutely

know. We're all family doctors. If I have a child with autism come in,

there's no communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's

not something that anyone would miss. "

>

> Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

see no autism in this group. "

>

>

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605-

3532r

<http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605

-3532r>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Feb 2008] MMR AND THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT AUTISM Does the measles-

mumps-rubella vaccine cause autism? I vote yes. Of course, that's just

one man's opinion - but one who's spent the last three years listening

to parents and enlightened pediatricians and combing through adverse

events reports and just generally trying to think for himself.

>

> OLMSTED, THE AMISH AND AUTISM By Mark Blaxill

>

> [Oct 2007] Olmsted on Autism: I'm not vaclempt!

>

> [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1 By Dan Olmsted

> vaccines/olm44.html

>

> The Age of Autism: The story so far By DAN OLMSTED

>

> The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret' By Dan Olmsted

> The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly By Dan Olmsted

>

> [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Christian's mom speaks By Dan Olmsted

>

> The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill By DAN OLMSTED copy Expect

to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from the powers that

be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't, shouldn't and really

mustn't be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

>

>

> The Age of Autism: Critics have their say

> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work

> The Age of Autism: Regression

> The Age of Autism: More sick kids

> The Age of Autism: A whole-body illness

> The Age of Autism: The Amish Elephant

> The Age of Autism: Showdown in Santa Fe

> The Age of Autism: Nuts

> The Age of Autism: Facts say maybe

> The Age of Autism: Flu shot flashpoint

> The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret'

> The Age of Autism: Case Number 88924

> The Age of Autism: 'My child is toxic'

> The Age of Autism: Adverse events

> The Age of Autism: Connecting new dots

> The Age of Autism: March of the experts

> The Age of Autism: New in Name Only

> The Age of Autism: But What about 1930?

> The Age of Autism: Videos

> The Age of Autism: Amish Genes

> The Age of Autism: Concerned in Tennessee

> The Age of Autism: Question of the Year

> The Age of Autism: The story so far

> The Age of Autism: Missing in Mississippi

> The Age of Autism: Gold Salts Pass a test

> The Age of Autism: Gold?

>

>

>

> Love, Gabby. :0)

> http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

<http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/>

>

> " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even

God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~

Jerry Newport

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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amen sister.

________________________________

From: on behalf of Kristy Nardini

Sent: Mon 3/30/2009 6:36 PM

Subject: Re: Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children - and sometimes

there is

What I understand from Ray's comments is that we live in a very toxic

environment. I cringe when there is debate about vaccinations and whether or not

they cause autism because I feel it diminishes the energy that could/should be

used to finding a solution. Too many vaccinations with too many impurities is

just one of the issues. My hope is that this wasted energy will stop and that we

can unite and say that the toxic world we have created and we have to live in is

making us sick (ASD is just one illness after all), that we want to stop

throwing mercury laced batteries and lightbulbs in the landfills, that we do

what we can to eliminate the two US-sized patches of plastics that are floating

in the oceans and leaching toxins into the food chain, that we stop driving

gas-guzzlers for every little errand, etc. etc. and that we find ways to fortify

our immune systems to have good quality of life.

Can we please unite on the MUCH bigger picture and start doing something about

it???

Kristy

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children

Sorry but without violating HIPPA laws there are many children in

DR.GOLDBERG'S PRACTICE THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN VACCINATED!! They still have

the " A " diagnosis

Elyse Goldberg

>

> http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm

<http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm>

<http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm

<http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm> >

>

> NO AUTISM In

> Never-Vaccinated Children

>

>

> From Alan Cantwell MD

>

> From Philip Rudnick PhD

> 3-8-9

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Drs. Eisenstein and Bradstreet:

>

> Re: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html> >

>

>

> In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of never-

vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through Illinois'

relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical director,

Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of autism in

never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175, according to

the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a fairly large

practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children

that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a

single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received

vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein said. " The numbers

are too large to not see it. We would absolutely know. We're all family

doctors. If I have a child with autism come in, there's no

communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's not

something that anyone would miss. "

>

> Now that you've told us what you " think " , when will you collect the

facts and publish the results?

>

> -------------------------------

>

> " Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

see no autism in this group. " "

>

> Now that you've told us what you " can " do, when will you do it and

publish the results?

>

> Sincerely yours,

>

> Philip Rudnick, PhD

> Professor Emeritus, Chemistry

> West Chester University of Pennsylvania

>

>

> Dan Olmsted

>

> http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html> >

>

> " A specter is haunting the medical and journalism establishments of

the United States: Where are the unvaccinated people with autism? "

---Dan Olmsted

>

> [Dan Olmsted did the research the vaccine industry and media refused

to do and found little or no autism in the unvaccinated Amish and

Homefirst Medical Services children.]

>

> Web: http://www.ageofautism.com/ <http://www.ageofautism.com/>

<http://www.ageofautism.com/ <http://www.ageofautism.com/> >

>

>

>

>

> " I have not seen autism with the Amish, " said Dr. Noonan, a

family practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands

of Amish for a quarter-century. " You'll find all the other stuff, but we

don't find the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and

seeing none, and that's just the way it is. "

>

> In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of

never-vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through

Illinois' relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical

director, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of

autism in never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175,

according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a

fairly large practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or

35,000 children that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't

think we have a single case of autism in children delivered by us who

never received vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein

said. " The numbers are too large to not see it. We would absolutely

know. We're all family doctors. If I have a child with autism come in,

there's no communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's

not something that anyone would miss. "

>

> Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

see no autism in this group. "

>

>

http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605-

<http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605->

3532r

<http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605

<http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605>

-3532r>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Feb 2008] MMR AND THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT AUTISM Does the measles-

mumps-rubella vaccine cause autism? I vote yes. Of course, that's just

one man's opinion - but one who's spent the last three years listening

to parents and enlightened pediatricians and combing through adverse

events reports and just generally trying to think for himself.

>

> OLMSTED, THE AMISH AND AUTISM By Mark Blaxill

>

> [Oct 2007] Olmsted on Autism: I'm not vaclempt!

>

> [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1 By Dan Olmsted

> vaccines/olm44.html

>

> The Age of Autism: The story so far By DAN OLMSTED

>

> The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret' By Dan Olmsted

> The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly By Dan Olmsted

>

> [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Christian's mom speaks By Dan Olmsted

>

> The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill By DAN OLMSTED copy Expect

to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from the powers that

be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't, shouldn't and really

mustn't be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

>

>

> The Age of Autism: Critics have their say

> The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work

> The Age of Autism: Regression

> The Age of Autism: More sick kids

> The Age of Autism: A whole-body illness

> The Age of Autism: The Amish Elephant

> The Age of Autism: Showdown in Santa Fe

> The Age of Autism: Nuts

> The Age of Autism: Facts say maybe

> The Age of Autism: Flu shot flashpoint

> The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret'

> The Age of Autism: Case Number 88924

> The Age of Autism: 'My child is toxic'

> The Age of Autism: Adverse events

> The Age of Autism: Connecting new dots

> The Age of Autism: March of the experts

> The Age of Autism: New in Name Only

> The Age of Autism: But What about 1930?

> The Age of Autism: Videos

> The Age of Autism: Amish Genes

> The Age of Autism: Concerned in Tennessee

> The Age of Autism: Question of the Year

> The Age of Autism: The story so far

> The Age of Autism: Missing in Mississippi

> The Age of Autism: Gold Salts Pass a test

> The Age of Autism: Gold?

>

>

>

> Love, Gabby. :0)

> http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

<http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/>

<http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/ <http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/>

>

>

> " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even

God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~

Jerry Newport

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I agree fully. including that thimerisol in vaccs can contribute to the

toxic-soup-o-culture that many individuals just cant process out.

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From: on behalf of elyse14

Sent: Tue 3/31/2009 8:47 PM

Subject: Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children - and sometimes there

is

Ray, that's a little like I went to a meeting where a doctor gave a talk that

autism was caused by prenatal vitamins (because most women take them). Till

there is a test and not a diagnosis based on symptoms in a child I don't think

we can say what causes this. Since there are many " subsets " of children with

this diagnosis I will be surprised if there is only one causal effect.

I only said there were children in the practice who where never vaccinated and

still had the " label " .

Elyse

> >

> > http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm

<http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm>

> <http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm

<http://www.rense.com/general85/cant.htm> >

> >

> > NO AUTISM In

> > Never-Vaccinated Children

> >

> >

> > From Alan Cantwell MD

> >

> > From Philip Rudnick PhD

> > 3-8-9

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Drs. Eisenstein and Bradstreet:

> >

> > Re: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

> <http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html> >

> >

> >

> > In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of never-

> vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through Illinois'

> relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical director,

> Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of autism in

> never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175, according to

> the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a fairly large

> practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children

> that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a

> single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received

> vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein said. " The numbers

> are too large to not see it. We would absolutely know. We're all family

> doctors. If I have a child with autism come in, there's no

> communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's not

> something that anyone would miss. "

> >

> > Now that you've told us what you " think " , when will you collect the

> facts and publish the results?

> >

> > -------------------------------

> >

> > " Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

> families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

> of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

> can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

> homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

> incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

> see no autism in this group. " "

> >

> > Now that you've told us what you " can " do, when will you do it and

> publish the results?

> >

> > Sincerely yours,

> >

> > Philip Rudnick, PhD

> > Professor Emeritus, Chemistry

> > West Chester University of Pennsylvania

> >

> >

> > Dan Olmsted

> >

> > http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

> <http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

<http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html> >

> >

> > " A specter is haunting the medical and journalism establishments of

> the United States: Where are the unvaccinated people with autism? "

> ---Dan Olmsted

> >

> > [Dan Olmsted did the research the vaccine industry and media refused

> to do and found little or no autism in the unvaccinated Amish and

> Homefirst Medical Services children.]

> >

> > Web: http://www.ageofautism.com/ <http://www.ageofautism.com/>

<http://www.ageofautism.com/ <http://www.ageofautism.com/> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > " I have not seen autism with the Amish, " said Dr. Noonan, a

> family practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands

> of Amish for a quarter-century. " You'll find all the other stuff, but we

> don't find the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and

> seeing none, and that's just the way it is. "

> >

> > In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of

> never-vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through

> Illinois' relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical

> director, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of

> autism in never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175,

> according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a

> fairly large practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or

> 35,000 children that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't

> think we have a single case of autism in children delivered by us who

> never received vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein

> said. " The numbers are too large to not see it. We would absolutely

> know. We're all family doctors. If I have a child with autism come in,

> there's no communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's

> not something that anyone would miss. "

> >

> > Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

> families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

> of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

> can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

> homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

> incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

> see no autism in this group. "

> >

> >

> http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605-

<http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605->

> 3532r

> <http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605

<http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605>

> -3532r>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Feb 2008] MMR AND THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT AUTISM Does the measles-

> mumps-rubella vaccine cause autism? I vote yes. Of course, that's just

> one man's opinion - but one who's spent the last three years listening

> to parents and enlightened pediatricians and combing through adverse

> events reports and just generally trying to think for himself.

> >

> > OLMSTED, THE AMISH AND AUTISM By Mark Blaxill

> >

> > [Oct 2007] Olmsted on Autism: I'm not vaclempt!

> >

> > [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1 By Dan Olmsted

> > vaccines/olm44.html

> >

> > The Age of Autism: The story so far By DAN OLMSTED

> >

> > The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret' By Dan Olmsted

> > The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly By Dan Olmsted

> >

> > [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Christian's mom speaks By Dan Olmsted

> >

> > The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill By DAN OLMSTED copy Expect

> to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from the powers that

> be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't, shouldn't and really

> mustn't be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

> >

> >

> > The Age of Autism: Critics have their say

> > The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work

> > The Age of Autism: Regression

> > The Age of Autism: More sick kids

> > The Age of Autism: A whole-body illness

> > The Age of Autism: The Amish Elephant

> > The Age of Autism: Showdown in Santa Fe

> > The Age of Autism: Nuts

> > The Age of Autism: Facts say maybe

> > The Age of Autism: Flu shot flashpoint

> > The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret'

> > The Age of Autism: Case Number 88924

> > The Age of Autism: 'My child is toxic'

> > The Age of Autism: Adverse events

> > The Age of Autism: Connecting new dots

> > The Age of Autism: March of the experts

> > The Age of Autism: New in Name Only

> > The Age of Autism: But What about 1930?

> > The Age of Autism: Videos

> > The Age of Autism: Amish Genes

> > The Age of Autism: Concerned in Tennessee

> > The Age of Autism: Question of the Year

> > The Age of Autism: The story so far

> > The Age of Autism: Missing in Mississippi

> > The Age of Autism: Gold Salts Pass a test

> > The Age of Autism: Gold?

> >

> >

> >

> > Love, Gabby. :0)

> > http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

<http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/>

> <http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

<http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/> >

> >

> > " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even

> God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~

> Jerry Newport

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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