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Dr is the only doctor who gave what I was complaining of a name, and I

had already come to the conclusion myself that it was eosiniphilic gastritis

because benedryl was the only thing that helped ... and then Allegra (but that

made me crazy and crabby).  I don't think he'll think you're crazy - I think he

has probably heard it a few times by now (diahrrea improving on

antihistamines).  It's one of the reasons allergy meds are soooo important to

him.  He lived in upstate NY where allergy seasons are really really bad news -

it's a big focus for him because he has seen so much firsthand how kids can

regress due to allergies. 

He's going to remember I'm crazy when I tell him a toradol shot improved my ...

um.... tummy, too.  It's an non-steroidal anti-inflammatory shot that helps my

pain from tmj or fibromyalgia or whatever, and it just cleared up a .... tummy

problem.  It's rough though - don't recommend it for just anyone (kids can't get

them, but moms don't run out for it).

When my gastritis is acute, my stomach will suddenly swell shut, eject it's

contents, and feel like it is full of knives being twisted.  It is extreme agony

- worse than childbirth I assure you, and terrifying - you think your stomach

must be ripping open.  I've only had a few attacks like that, and they were

triggered by something I ate each time, and probably exacerbated by some meds. 

Food dye, especially red, and even some red foods, will almost definitely

trigger an acute attack.  When it's just chronic, it could easily be mistaken

for reflux or heartburn, except that benedryl relieves it when the heartburn

meds do not, and it is a much bigger pain than just heartburn ... it aches all

around the stomach, not just at the esophagus.  It can also go up into the

esophagus too - it did during it's worst phases with me.  Anyway, the only way

to know for sure if it is eosiniphilic gastritis is to do a stomach biopsy,

which I need to schedule as soon

as I can pay the deductible (I'm trying to save an emergency fund first because

employment stuff is dicey right now).  Right now it's mostly in remission. 

While it's chronic and inflamed, I also have problems digesting my food. 

If the zyrtec and allegra don't work out (for other reactions), then Dr

will probably try singulair - that is supposed to do well with the gut too.  I'm

going to probably try it again here shortly.

HTH-

________________________________

From: Hankinson <jlhank80@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 12:30:30 PM

Subject: Allergic Gastritis/

, I was reading your post about the eosinophic

gastritis and I was wondering what the symptoms are

that you have. I have suspected that in my daughter,

more intestinally, though, because when she is on the

antihistamines her poops are normal! That made me

think she has an allergic gut and I don't know if its

foods that trigger it or what.

I tried to talk to Dr. about it but I think he

thinks I am nuts and I think too much. I am not sure.

He is right if he thinks that though.

While on Zyrtec, my daughter was so angry! But her

poops were perfect. She stimmed a lot less but again

she was a monster. I wish it weren't so.

-Jen

--- <thecolemans4> wrote:

> I'm glad to know you have the same problem - not

> glad that you have it - just that someone else who I

> trust does too and I'm not just crazy! :) 

>

> I worried that somehow I had a subtle paranoia about

> the allergy meds and blamed them the same way people

> do the placebo effects.  (I have this incredible

> amount of doubt from years of neuroimmune stuff that

> was never understood and was therefore told that was

> impossible.)  Only in the last few years did anyone

> give me reasonable explanations as to why that can

> be so, and of course Dr Goldberg and Dr know

> that they can be bad irritability triggers too, so

> it's not as embarrassing to tell them that.

>

> Fortunately the Dytan doesn't seem to whack them

> out, but it's not the best one either (or does

> it?).  My youngest can tell the nasal sprays help,

> and reminds me when I forget.  Now " the season " is

> coming up, so I need to get tight with getting those

> sprays going.

>

> Did you ever try singulair, and did you have any

> negative reactions?  I need to try it for my

> gastritis (it might be eosiniphilic gastritis,

> 'cause allegra helped it tremendously) ... but again,

> I'm always nervous about the side effects and can't

> remember if singulair did that to me or not.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Marcia Hinds <hindssiteverizon (DOT) net>

> thecolemans4; groups (DOT) com

> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:27:55 AM

> Subject: Re: Soy question and good days/bad

> days

>

>

> ,

>

> Both and I can't take Antihistamines because we

> react to them. Dr. G

> always wants him to take them but we just don't.

> Instead we use a nasal

> spray like Beconase, Flonase or Naselnex. For us

> Beconase works best. Also

> it is important to remember that due to lack of

> language sometimes it is

> hard to tell what is a reaction and what is

> frustration. They know what

> they want to say but can't express it. When I was

> raising my " normal "

> daughter the worst time was when she was 12-18

> months. She wanted to tell

> me things but didn't know how to say the words yet,

>

> Marcia

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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My 2 1/2 year old son has been having the same thing you are describing.

However, the biopsy from the EGD was negative for eospinophils. We then had him

tested for allergies even though the GI doc said he didn't feel it was allergy

related. He's allergic to eggs and peanuts. He also tested high for soy, milk,

and wheat. We put him on a casein free/gluten free diet and he got much worse.

After 2 months, we reintroduced all these foods minus the eggs and peanuts and

he is thriving as long as he doesn't have any other sickness (GI virus, colds,

flu, etc). We have never had him on any kind of anti-virals or any of the meds

Dr. G apparently recommends. We've never even been to him!!! I have been doing

research on my own and trying many things along the way to address him sensory

processing disorder. He is also a very picky eater but with lots of speech,

occupational, and feeding therapy we have been able to address this as well over

the last 4-5 months. He is still only 22 pounds but he's much healthier and so

much happier. His speech is catching up and he is starting to make his needs

known etc.

The key for us was EO28 Splash made by Nutricia. You can only purchase this

online and it's very expensive BUT it works. I believe the website is

nutritionandautism.com (????) It is nothing but pure amino acids and is easy

for the gut to digest and absorb. Since we have been able to get his allergies

and nutrition more stabilized he has been thriving. Like I said, he has NEVER

taken any antivirals and very few antibiotics.

By the way, Cincinnati Children's Hospital is the world's leader in research for

Eosinophilic Disorders. They have great info on their website. We have been

there and it's an outstanding hospital!!!

Hope this helps!!!

Joy

---- <thecolemans4@...> wrote:

=============

Dr is the only doctor who gave what I was complaining of a name, and I

had already come to the conclusion myself that it was eosiniphilic gastritis

because benedryl was the only thing that helped ... and then Allegra (but that

made me crazy and crabby).  I don't think he'll think you're crazy - I think he

has probably heard it a few times by now (diahrrea improving on

antihistamines).  It's one of the reasons allergy meds are soooo important to

him.  He lived in upstate NY where allergy seasons are really really bad news -

it's a big focus for him because he has seen so much firsthand how kids can

regress due to allergies. 

He's going to remember I'm crazy when I tell him a toradol shot improved my ...

um.... tummy, too.  It's an non-steroidal anti-inflammatory shot that helps my

pain from tmj or fibromyalgia or whatever, and it just cleared up a .... tummy

problem.  It's rough though - don't recommend it for just anyone (kids can't

get them, but moms don't run out for it).

When my gastritis is acute, my stomach will suddenly swell shut, eject it's

contents, and feel like it is full of knives being twisted.  It is extreme

agony - worse than childbirth I assure you, and terrifying - you think your

stomach must be ripping open.  I've only had a few attacks like that, and they

were triggered by something I ate each time, and probably exacerbated by some

meds.  Food dye, especially red, and even some red foods, will almost

definitely trigger an acute attack.  When it's just chronic, it could easily be

mistaken for reflux or heartburn, except that benedryl relieves it when the

heartburn meds do not, and it is a much bigger pain than just heartburn ... it

aches all around the stomach, not just at the esophagus.  It can also go up

into the esophagus too - it did during it's worst phases with me.  Anyway, the

only way to know for sure if it is eosiniphilic gastritis is to do a stomach

biopsy, which I need to schedule as soon

as I can pay the deductible (I'm trying to save an emergency fund

first because employment stuff is dicey right now).  Right now it's mostly in

remission.  While it's chronic and inflamed, I also have problems digesting my

food. 

If the zyrtec and allegra don't work out (for other reactions), then Dr

will probably try singulair - that is supposed to do well with the gut too. 

I'm going to probably try it again here shortly.

HTH-

________________________________

From: Hankinson <jlhank80@...>

Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 12:30:30 PM

Subject: Allergic Gastritis/

, I was reading your post about the eosinophic

gastritis and I was wondering what the symptoms are

that you have. I have suspected that in my daughter,

more intestinally, though, because when she is on the

antihistamines her poops are normal! That made me

think she has an allergic gut and I don't know if its

foods that trigger it or what.

I tried to talk to Dr. about it but I think he

thinks I am nuts and I think too much. I am not sure.

He is right if he thinks that though.

While on Zyrtec, my daughter was so angry! But her

poops were perfect. She stimmed a lot less but again

she was a monster. I wish it weren't so.

-Jen

--- <thecolemans4> wrote:

> I'm glad to know you have the same problem - not

> glad that you have it - just that someone else who I

> trust does too and I'm not just crazy! :) 

>

> I worried that somehow I had a subtle paranoia about

> the allergy meds and blamed them the same way people

> do the placebo effects.  (I have this incredible

> amount of doubt from years of neuroimmune stuff that

> was never understood and was therefore told that was

> impossible.)  Only in the last few years did anyone

> give me reasonable explanations as to why that can

> be so, and of course Dr Goldberg and Dr know

> that they can be bad irritability triggers too, so

> it's not as embarrassing to tell them that.

>

> Fortunately the Dytan doesn't seem to whack them

> out, but it's not the best one either (or does

> it?).  My youngest can tell the nasal sprays help,

> and reminds me when I forget.  Now " the season " is

> coming up, so I need to get tight with getting those

> sprays going.

>

> Did you ever try singulair, and did you have any

> negative reactions?  I need to try it for my

> gastritis (it might be eosiniphilic gastritis,

> 'cause allegra helped it tremendously) ... but again,

> I'm always nervous about the side effects and can't

> remember if singulair did that to me or not.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>  

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> From: Marcia Hinds <hindssiteverizon (DOT) net>

> thecolemans4; groups (DOT) com

> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 11:27:55 AM

> Subject: Re: Soy question and good days/bad

> days

>

>

> ,

>

> Both and I can't take Antihistamines because we

> react to them. Dr. G

> always wants him to take them but we just don't.

> Instead we use a nasal

> spray like Beconase, Flonase or Naselnex. For us

> Beconase works best. Also

> it is important to remember that due to lack of

> language sometimes it is

> hard to tell what is a reaction and what is

> frustration. They know what

> they want to say but can't express it. When I was

> raising my " normal "

> daughter the worst time was when she was 12-18

> months. She wanted to tell

> me things but didn't know how to say the words yet,

>

> Marcia

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

May the Lord bless you and keep you!

Visit my blog :)

http://bloominwhere yourplanted. blogspot. com/

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