Re: (OT) The Dr. Phil Show TODAY was............

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Hi ,

Thanks for posting this...

I TiVo'd the show and plan to watch it later on tonight, but reading this recap

gave me a good idea there is going to be a lot more to this since Dr. Phil

believes his message board was going to Blow up!! This means a lot of people

are very much interested in this topic, just what we really needed!!

The IDSA (Infectious Disease Society of America) is under a lot of pressure for

stating that chronic Lyme does not exist and Dr. Phil's show is going to put

even more pressure on them.

It is too bad a discussion did not ensure about how insurance stopped paying

for Lyme treatments just one week after the IDSA made its announcement

about chronic Lyme in 2006... I am sure that would have really gotten the

attention

of Dr. Phil and his audience..

Stay tuned!!

Jim

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> Hey guys, not sure if anyone commented on this show yet, but I got this

forward about it and wanted to pass it along if you haven't seen it. I DVR'd the

episode and look forward to watching it, especially after these comments below!

> Blessings,

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> FWD:

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> .........FABULOUS!

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> http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1826

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> It opened with a clip from UNDER OUR SKIN.

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> It then started with a model, , who has Lyme disease.

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> It continued with Landau.

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> It then moved to his Senior Supervising Producer to the show, Kathy Giaconnia

(spelling?). She has been with DR. PHIL since the beginning of the show (meaning

in time, not today).

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> She was fabulous. All three women were fabulous.

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> THEN they had Dr. Auwater from s Hopkins Medical School, who pooh-poohed

medication being helpful for Chronic Lyme disease according to studies,.

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> For balance, they had the West Coast " Dr. B " - Dr. Chitra Bakhta, from OC

Integrative Medical Center in Southern California.

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> She was FABULOUS.

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> For a change, the show ended up with the " Good Guy " getting the last word,

" West Coastie " Dr. B.

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> Dr. Phil was fabulous in his fairness in moderating. Perhaps more

knowledgeable with his exposure of his Senior Supervising Producer..........

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> At the conclusion of the show, he said he would NOW be getting off the show

and IMMEDIATELY going to the message board; he expected it would light up, and

he was going to be reading who wrote in VERY CAREFULLY.

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> Please weigh in on this if you think it is appropriate.

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> FYI the excerpt from the show, and the place to post your comments, may be

found at http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1826

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> Two comments -

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> a) when asked by Dr. Phil WHY, focused her tiny spot on stating that

this was happening because testing was up to 60% inaccurate.

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> b)It was about CHRONIC Lyme - CHRONIC!!!!!

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> I may be wrong, but somehow Dr. Phil Show treatment of CHRONIC Lyme disease,

in a weird way, may legitimze the concept of CHRONIC to the American public who

has been undecided.

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> I do know someone who was similarly influenced by one of the Lyme authors

speaking out. If someone famous was claiming it, it must be true!

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> He started listing questions, ending with " Is Lyme Disease the next epidemic

after AIDS. "

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> Then he stated " we're going to try and answer all of these questions....... "

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> Well, he never got to them.

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> I believe if the comments boards lights up, he may get to the rest of his

questions in a future show, 1 or more.

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> EXCERPTS:

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> DR. PHIL:

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> " Well, the medical community seems to be split by The Great Lyme Disease

Debate.

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> How is Lyme disease defined?

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> Is Lyme Disease CHRONIC?

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> Do Long Term antibiotics work?

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> Is it congenital, passed from mother to child?

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> Is it sexually transmitted?

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> Is Lyme Disease the next epidemic after AIDS? "

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> (all questions never answered by the end of the show!)

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> Â…Â…Â….

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> (More)

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> DR. PHIL: (to Dr. Auwater) ............ " who believes that CHRONIC Lyme Disease

Does NOT Exist. "

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> " You believe that Lyme disease is a real syndrome, you're talking about

Chronic Lyme disease, which you question. "

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> Dr. AUWATER (shortened a few sentences to start) – " It's really about

the LABEL of Chronic Lyme Disease, which means that there's an infection that

persists despite antibiotics, and requires LONG TERM antibiotics for cure.

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> But many of the patients that come into my office, and I see many of them that

have the similar difficult stories, they're angry, they're frustrated. And I

think many are looking for an answer, and what has happened is - Chronic Lyme

disease has become a label to help explain these chronic problems.

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> But what we know from clinical studies, at least four trials that have found

that antibiotics have worked no better than placebo for helping many of these

symptoms. "

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> DR. PHIL:

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> " Dr. Chitra Bahkta, does this chronic syndrome exist or does it not? "

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> DR. BAHKTA:

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> " It does exist. "

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> DR. PHIL:

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> " OK, You have many that say it don't, and even doctors are losing their

license for treating this disease with long term antibiotics. "

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> DR. BAHKTA:

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> " But just to allude to where he says the NIH showed that long term antibiotics

did NOT help,Â…Â….

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> There was the monkey trial, and they actually autopsied monkeys after treating

them with 90 days of antibiotics and they found that in 70% of these monkeys the

Lyme spirokete was still persisting. So THERE IS CHRONIC LYME. "

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> DR PHIL:

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> " Dr. Auwater, I'll ask you to respond to that.

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> Is it something that IS organically based, or are you suggesting that these

patients are showing psychosomatic or somatoform symptoms? "

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> Dr. Auwater:

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> " The label here is Chronic Lyme disease, but what's important is people have

looked very hard, many researchers in humans, and can not find evidence of

infection.

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> And the key other point again is –

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> There is no durable benefit with long term antibiotics, it's been tried.

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> I, as a physician, only want to give what's best for my patients

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> Why would I give treatment that doesn't work. "

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> DR. PHIL:

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> " , what did you want to say, you are shaking your head? "

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> BROOKE LANDAU:

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> " Oh, where do I begin?

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> I am walking evidence that long term antibiotics - - it brought me my hearing

back, it brought me my sight back, my heart arrhythmia stopped,

Â…Â…palpitations. I was thirty pounds less than I am now and I am already too

thin. I had short term memory problems where I couldn't remember the names of my

family and my friends.

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> And a placebo, I am very sorry, but a 'sugar pill' would not have helped me.

And long term antibiotics from a doctor who is a Lyme literate doctor, and

specializes in this disease, was able to systematically knock back this

disease. "

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> (clapping, more testimony from Kathy, producer)

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> then –

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> KATHY: " My blood pressure was 60 over 20, I thought I was going to die that

day.

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> When I asked them in the hospital if I was going to make it through the day,

they said, " Well, We'll see. "

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> " Listen, I am better now, I am thirty pounds lighter, I have my energy back,

how do you explain that?

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> I am on long-term antibiotics. "

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> Kathy identifies that Dr. B. IS her doctor.

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> West Coastie Dr. B interrupts to clarify:

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> " Could I just interject, I don't do all this " VooDoo medicine " with

hyperbaricsÂ…Â….

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> or anything of that sort " .

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> " I am basically a mainstream doctor who has a patient coming in and saying,

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> 'LOOK, those TREATMENT GUIDELINES that you treated me with are not working,'

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> and then I have to make a decision where I need to help these patients. "

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> Dr. PHIL interrupts to end show, praise Dr. B., offers the model the pro bono

services of Dr. B. to help her with her case.

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> After commercial, Dr. Phil says he expects the Message board will " blow up "

and that he will immediately be getting off the show to see the Messages coming

in on the message board, Also Twitter and Facebook.

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> Let's not disappoint him and do let's encourage others who may want to watch

the segment or wish to comment to go to:

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> http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1826

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> Remember his list of questions, which were not answered since the show took

off in a different direction.

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> If we comment enough, I believe there MUST be another show to finish the

material he obviously had anticipated that would ANSWER the list of questions he

started out with.

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> Please encourage all to comment on the Message board, Twitter, or Facebook as

they see fit.

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> For those who wish a copy of the show, the number given was:

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> 1-866-4-DR PHIL

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