Guest guest Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 what is the MTHFR gene. thx barbara Hi Everyone, One of my sons was just tested for the MTHFR gene. I'm told he has two mutations. I won't get a copy of the results for a couple of days. For those of you who have the problem, I would like to know more. I will be reading about it as much as possible but I am wondering how it really affects your treatment of Lyme and cos. We have already ordered the MTHF that the LLMD wants him to start. Any advice or ideas would be helpful. I'm wondering if killing protocols can be the same as long as the proper supplements are being used. Thanks for your help. Lucina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Hi Luciana I do not knwo a thing about this but I read that NT factors adresse the gene modification. I guess any regenerative medecin would do some good as well Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:19 PMSubject: Re: OT: MTHFR questions what is the MTHFR gene. thx barbara Hi Everyone, One of my sons was just tested for the MTHFR gene. I'm told he has two mutations. I won't get a copy of the results for a couple of days. For those of you who have the problem, I would like to know more. I will be reading about it as much as possible but I am wondering how it really affects your treatment of Lyme and cos. We have already ordered the MTHF that the LLMD wants him to start. Any advice or ideas would be helpful. I'm wondering if killing protocols can be the same as long as the proper supplements are being used. Thanks for your help. Lucina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Hi - I have one of the gene mutations and my daughter has two. I have to go and get an updated workup now that I am treating for LD. I have found that my methylation pathways are not as good as other people. My daughter does not have LD, but because of the gene mutations she needs to take additional Folic Acid and go for check-ups. It is a very complicated mutation and not all hemotologists are hip to it. So I would ask the Hemo how much experience he has with it. Years ago (in 1994) my sister died of hypercoagulation leading to pulmonary embolism which stemmed from her having both gene mutations. Back then they did not know as much as they do now. It is not something you necessarily have to fear, but it is not something to take lightly either. Most people go about their lives not even knowing they have it. Since you know your son has both mutations, in my opinion a knowledgeable doctor is necessary for the work-up. Blessings, Meo > >  > >Hi Everyone, > > > >One of my sons was just tested for the MTHFR gene. I'm told he has two mutations. I won't get a copy of the results for a couple of days. For those of you who have the problem, I would like to know more. I will be reading about it as much as possible but I am wondering how it really affects your treatment of Lyme and cos. > > > >We have already ordered the MTHF that the LLMD wants him to start. > > > >Any advice or ideas would be helpful. I'm wondering if killing protocols can be the same as long as the proper supplements are being used. > > > >Thanks for your help. > > > >Lucina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Thanks and Marie, I found this website with some good links. Those with multiple chemical sensitivities and other detox issues really should read up. Also, those with relatives who have experienced strokes or aneurysms or early heart disease should take a look. I think the gist of it is that those with the mutations can't utilize Folic Acid because they don't produce the enzyme that converts it to Folate. You have to supplement with high potency folate and other B vitamins. Without the folate, you can take buckets of B Vitamins but your body can't utilize them. You become depleted in Glutathione. Also, taking SAM-e actually depletes glutathione when you have this gene. Nothing in the detox cycle works. Taking laughing gas (nitric oxide) can be lethal for people with this anomaly. On the bright side, I read on the Dr. Kids site that one of the mutations is the same genetic code for genius. Guess if you are going to get something bad, it's nice to balance it with a good element! http://www.mthfrsupport.com/helpful-links.html http://mthfr.net/ http://www.drjoneskids.com/ Lucina Hi Lucina,I had the Yasko Methylation panel done and I have a whole work up on the genes. I think I had a mutation on one of the MTHFR genes. If I remember right my test said that mutations on this gene might make one prone to diabetic retinopathy. Anyway, here is some general info about the gene:The MTHFR gene provides instructions for making an enzyme called methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase. This enzyme plays a role in processing amino acids, the building blocks of proteins. Methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase is important for a chemical reaction involving forms of the B-vitamin folate (also called folic acid or vitamin B9). Specifically, this enzyme converts 5,10-methylenetetrahydrofolate to 5-methyltetrahydrofolate. This reaction is required for the multistep process that converts the amino acid homocysteine to another amino acid, methionine. The body uses methionine to make proteins and other important compounds.How are changes in the MTHFR gene related to health conditions?homocystinuria - caused by mutations in the MTHFR geneAt least 40 mutations in the MTHFR gene have been identified in people with homocystinuria. Most of these mutations change single amino acids in methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase. These changes impair the function of the enzyme, and some cause the enzyme to be turned off (inactivated). Other mutations lead to the production of an abnormally small, nonfunctional version of the enzyme. Without functional methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase, homocysteine cannot be converted to methionine. As a result, homocysteine builds up in the bloodstream, and the amount of methionine is reduced. Some of the excess homocysteine is excreted in urine. Researchers have not determined how altered levels of homocysteine and methionine lead to the health problems associated with homocystinuria.anencephaly - associated with the MTHFR geneSeveral variations (polymorphisms) in the MTHFR gene have been associated with an increased risk of neural tube defects (NTDs), a group of birth defects that occur during the development of the brain and spinal cord. Anencephaly is one of the most common types of neural tube defect. Affected individuals are missing large parts of the brain and have missing or incompletely formed skull bones.The most well-studied polymorphism related to the risk of neural tube defects changes a single DNA building block (nucleotide) in the MTHFR gene. Specifically, it replaces the nucleotide cytosine with the nucleotide thymine at position 677 (written as 677C>T). This variant, which is relatively common in many populations worldwide, produces a form of methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase that has reduced activity at higher temperatures (thermolabile). People with the thermolabile form of the enzyme have increased levels of homocysteine in their blood.It is unclear how variations in the MTHFR gene increase the likelihood of neural tube defects. However, the increased risk may be related to differences in the ability of methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase to process folate. A shortage of this vitamin is an established risk factor for neural tube defects.spina bifida - associated with the MTHFR genePolymorphisms in the MTHFR gene are also associated with an increased risk of spina bifida, another common type of neural tube defect. In people with this condition, the bones of the spinal column do not close completely around the developing nerves of the spinal cord. As a result, part of the spinal cord may stick out through an opening in the spine, leading to permanent nerve damage.As described above, variations in the MTHFR gene may increase the risk of neural tube defects by changing the ability of methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase to process folate.other disorders - increased risk from variations of the MTHFR genePolymorphisms in the MTHFR gene have also been studied as possible risk factors for a variety of common conditions. These include heart disease, stroke, high blood pressure (hypertension), high blood pressure during pregnancy (preeclampsia), an eye disorder called glaucoma, psychiatric disorders, and certain types of cancer. The 677C>T polymorphism in the MTHFR gene has also been suggested as a risk factor for cleft lip and palate, a birth defect in which there is a split in the upper lip and an opening in the roof of the mouth. Studies of MTHFR gene variations in people with these disorders have had mixed results, with associations found in some studies but not in others. Therefore, it remains unclear what role changes in the MTHFR gene play in determining the risk of these complex conditions.Where is the MTHFR gene located?Cytogenetic Location: 1p36.3Molecular Location on chromosome 1: base pairs 11,845,786 to 11,866,159> >  > >Hi Everyone,> >> >One of my sons was just tested for the MTHFR gene. I'm told he has two mutations. I won't get a copy of the results for a couple of days. For those of you who have the problem, I would like to know more. I will be reading about it as much as possible but I am wondering how it really affects your treatment of Lyme and cos.> >> >We have already ordered the MTHF that the LLMD wants him to start. > >> >Any advice or ideas would be helpful. I'm wondering if killing protocols can be the same as long as the proper supplements are being used.> >> >Thanks for your help.> >> >Lucina>------------------------------------If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme then please put an OT: in the subject line. ------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I bought some Glutathione patches and after reading about them, it said that they do not actually contain glutathione, but energetically stimulate the body to make it's own glutathione. I got to thinking about an experiment as I often do when it comes to energetic medicine, about trying some of the redisorb liquid Glutathione on my inner wrists and then using my photon device to message my body to produce Glutathione. Well the next day after this experiment, I was herxing hard, and I am still herxing today. I have used the Redisorb before on my wrists with no measurable results whatsoever. The photon device I am using is the PE1 which is a substitute device for the Bionic 880 that Dr Woitzel uses to energetically treat Lyme. I was feeling great until I did this and yesterday when I pendulum tested Burbur and Pinella, I showed a need for both of these blood cleansers. When ordinarlily the only time I show a need for them is if I have run the rife machine on a pathogen and am herxing. So I did stir stuff up. Whether I am able to get the toxins out of my body is another question altogether. I hope I didn't just stir the pot and the toxins just resettle elsewhere. I think the next time I try doing this photon treatment, I may try it with an electromagnetically copied vial of Glutathione, maybe it will lessen the herx some and then try taking a lot of binders. I use the points that is on the chart in the files and if you don't have a photon device, you can use a 635 NM laser pen available on Ebay for about $12.00. I have also used this method to message the body to detox heavy metals using a 12x nosode custom made by Ergopathic Resources. They are currently having a sale until May so it is a great time to buy vials. > > > >  > > >Hi Everyone, > > > > > >One of my sons was just tested for the MTHFR gene. I'm told he has > two mutations. I won't get a copy of the results for a couple of days. > For those of you who have the problem, I would like to know more. I will be > reading about it as much as possible but I am wondering how it really > affects your treatment of Lyme and cos. > > > > > >We have already ordered the MTHF that the LLMD wants him to start. > > > > > >Any advice or ideas would be helpful. I'm wondering if killing > protocols can be the same as long as the proper supplements are being used. > > > > > >Thanks for your help. > > > > > >Lucina > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > If your post is not about electronic devices used in the treatment of Lyme > then please put an OT: in the subject line. > > ------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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