Re: NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children - and sometimes there is

[Guest guest]

Ray, that's a little like I went to a meeting where a doctor gave a talk that

autism was caused by prenatal vitamins (because most women take them). Till

there is a test and not a diagnosis based on symptoms in a child I don't think

we can say what causes this. Since there are many " subsets " of children with

this diagnosis I will be surprised if there is only one causal effect.

I only said there were children in the practice who where never vaccinated and

still had the " label " .

Elyse

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> > NO AUTISM In

> > Never-Vaccinated Children

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> > From Alan Cantwell MD

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> > From Philip Rudnick PhD

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> > Dear Drs. Eisenstein and Bradstreet:

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> > Re: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

> <http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

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> > In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of never-

> vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through Illinois'

> relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical director,

> Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of autism in

> never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175, according to

> the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a fairly large

> practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children

> that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a

> single case of autism in children delivered by us who never received

> vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein said. " The numbers

> are too large to not see it. We would absolutely know. We're all family

> doctors. If I have a child with autism come in, there's no

> communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's not

> something that anyone would miss. "

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> > Now that you've told us what you " think " , when will you collect the

> facts and publish the results?

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> > " Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

> families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

> of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

> can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

> homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

> incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

> see no autism in this group. " "

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> > Now that you've told us what you " can " do, when will you do it and

> publish the results?

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> > Sincerely yours,

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> > Philip Rudnick, PhD

> > Professor Emeritus, Chemistry

> > West Chester University of Pennsylvania

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> > Dan Olmsted

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> > http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

> <http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html>

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> > " A specter is haunting the medical and journalism establishments of

> the United States: Where are the unvaccinated people with autism? "

> ---Dan Olmsted

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> > [Dan Olmsted did the research the vaccine industry and media refused

> to do and found little or no autism in the unvaccinated Amish and

> Homefirst Medical Services children.]

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> > Web: http://www.ageofautism.com/ <http://www.ageofautism.com/>

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> > " I have not seen autism with the Amish, " said Dr. Noonan, a

> family practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands

> of Amish for a quarter-century. " You'll find all the other stuff, but we

> don't find the autism. We're right in the heart of Amish country and

> seeing none, and that's just the way it is. "

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> > In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of

> never-vaccinated children whose parents received exemptions through

> Illinois' relatively permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical

> director, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of

> autism in never-vaccinated children; the national rate is 1 in 175,

> according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. " We have a

> fairly large practice, " Eisenstein told us. " We have about 30,000 or

> 35,000 children that we've taken care of over the years, and I don't

> think we have a single case of autism in children delivered by us who

> never received vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein

> said. " The numbers are too large to not see it. We would absolutely

> know. We're all family doctors. If I have a child with autism come in,

> there's no communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's

> not something that anyone would miss. "

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> > Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to

> families who homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age

> of Autism he has proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I

> can tap into this community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated

> homeschooled, " said Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and

> incidence studies in them, and my gut reaction is that you're going to

> see no autism in this group. "

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> http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605-

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> <http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20060728-111605

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> > [Feb 2008] MMR AND THE SIMPLE TRUTH ABOUT AUTISM Does the measles-

> mumps-rubella vaccine cause autism? I vote yes. Of course, that's just

> one man's opinion - but one who's spent the last three years listening

> to parents and enlightened pediatricians and combing through adverse

> events reports and just generally trying to think for himself.

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> > OLMSTED, THE AMISH AND AUTISM By Mark Blaxill

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> > [Oct 2007] Olmsted on Autism: I'm not vaclempt!

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> > [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Pox -- Part 1 By Dan Olmsted

> > vaccines/olm44.html

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> > The Age of Autism: The story so far By DAN OLMSTED

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> > The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret' By Dan Olmsted

> > The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly By Dan Olmsted

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> > [April 2006] The Age of Autism: Christian's mom speaks By Dan Olmsted

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> > The Age of Autism: Hot potato on the Hill By DAN OLMSTED copy Expect

> to hear all kinds of excuses, including that one, from the powers that

> be as to why such a conclusive study couldn't, shouldn't and really

> mustn't be done. Then ask yourself, Why?

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> > The Age of Autism: Critics have their say

> > The Age of Autism: Mercury goes to work

> > The Age of Autism: Regression

> > The Age of Autism: More sick kids

> > The Age of Autism: A whole-body illness

> > The Age of Autism: The Amish Elephant

> > The Age of Autism: Showdown in Santa Fe

> > The Age of Autism: Nuts

> > The Age of Autism: Facts say maybe

> > The Age of Autism: Flu shot flashpoint

> > The Age of Autism: 'A pretty big secret'

> > The Age of Autism: Case Number 88924

> > The Age of Autism: 'My child is toxic'

> > The Age of Autism: Adverse events

> > The Age of Autism: Connecting new dots

> > The Age of Autism: March of the experts

> > The Age of Autism: New in Name Only

> > The Age of Autism: But What about 1930?

> > The Age of Autism: Videos

> > The Age of Autism: Amish Genes

> > The Age of Autism: Concerned in Tennessee

> > The Age of Autism: Question of the Year

> > The Age of Autism: The story so far

> > The Age of Autism: Missing in Mississippi

> > The Age of Autism: Gold Salts Pass a test

> > The Age of Autism: Gold?

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> > Love, Gabby. :0)

> > http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

> <http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/>

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> > " I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even

> God had some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~

> Jerry Newport

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