Re: OT: question on cysts & sauna

April 24, 2012

I'm not sure how the FIR Sauna affects the cysts, but besides bothering the

spirochetes, it also is a very effective detox technique. So you may have

gotten rid of a lot of toxins. But also, you probably are getting used to it

and can tolerate the heat better. (personally, I stopped doing it because I

couldn't tolerate it.)

Khaya

>

> Jeff, I'll give you what I know... but there are many very informed folks on

this list, so I look forward to other answers and info.

>

> the cystic form is when the bacteria covers itself with a non-bacteria-like

shell. within this 'shell' it can reproduce via transverse fission. This

shell, because it doesn't have the markers that your immune system recognizes,

can hide from your body's defenses. Also, because the shell structure is not

reproducing ( the spiros are reproducing within, but the shell itself is not

splitting and multiplying), it is not vulnerable to antibiotics. Antibiotics

work by disrupting the formation of the cell wall during reproduction, causing

the cell to break apart during formation. I think that the only medications

known to be specifically effective against the cystic form of Bb are

anti-parasitics. lab studies done by PhDs show them effective, but the MDs are

not sanguine about using them because they are often so dangerous.

>

> that is a general overview, i don't know about specific current studies in

vivo.

> HTH,

> -sarah

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> From: jescharff@...

> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:37:12 -0400

> Subject: OT: question on cysts

>

> I've probably read this somewhere already but can someone please explain the

cyst thing to me? Is there a way to tell when the spirochetes form cysts and is

that how the disease will sometimes stay dormant for extended periods of time?

If I've been using my fir sauna and have now experienced less sweating than

previously could this be a sign that this is what is happening now and would

that be the reason for my increase in energy?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jeff

>

April 24, 2012

Hi

Khaya,

I have

been slowly increasing my time in the sauna as I am getting used to it. It just

seems like I’m sweating less recently and staying in longer. Possibly I

have less toxins as I’ve tried to cut out as much irritating things as

possible.

Thanks,

Jeff

From:

Lyme_and_Rife [mailto:Lyme_and_Rife ] On

Behalf Of khaya.davidson

Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 6:38 PM

To: Lyme_and_Rife

Subject: Re: OT: question on cysts & sauna

I'm not sure how the FIR Sauna affects the

cysts, but besides bothering the spirochetes, it also is a very effective detox

technique. So you may have gotten rid of a lot of toxins. But also, you

probably are getting used to it and can tolerate the heat better. (personally,

I stopped doing it because I couldn't tolerate it.)

Khaya

>

> Jeff, I'll give you what I know... but there are many very informed folks

on this list, so I look forward to other answers and info.

>

> the cystic form is when the bacteria covers itself with a

non-bacteria-like shell. within this 'shell' it can reproduce via transverse

fission. This shell, because it doesn't have the markers that your immune

system recognizes, can hide from your body's defenses. Also, because the shell

structure is not reproducing ( the spiros are reproducing within, but the shell

itself is not splitting and multiplying), it is not vulnerable to antibiotics.

Antibiotics work by disrupting the formation of the cell wall during

reproduction, causing the cell to break apart during formation. I think that

the only medications known to be specifically effective against the cystic form

of Bb are anti-parasitics. lab studies done by PhDs show them effective, but

the MDs are not sanguine about using them because they are often so dangerous.

>

> that is a general overview, i don't know about specific current studies in

vivo.

> HTH,

> -sarah

>

> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> From: jescharff@...

> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:37:12 -0400

> Subject: OT: question on cysts

>

> I've probably read this somewhere already but can someone please explain

the cyst thing to me? Is there a way to tell when the spirochetes form cysts

and is that how the disease will sometimes stay dormant for extended periods of

time? If I've been using my fir sauna and have now experienced less sweating

than previously could this be a sign that this is what is happening now and

would that be the reason for my increase in energy?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Jeff

>

April 24, 2012

a reason i have heard given for lessening of sweating (on this list) has been redistribution of latent mercury deposits as you kill off the Bb. there are evidently some studies which show metals 'hanging out' around the Bb cysts and colonies, and being released as these colonies are killed off.some have had success treating for metal exposure at that stage, and restoring proper sweating (and thus detox).-sarah To: Lyme_and_Rife From: jescharff@...Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:56:13 -0400Subject: RE: Re: OT: question on cysts & sauna