NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children

March 17, 2009

I actually do not agree with this. There is a " very small " group and I mean

extremely small group of children born autistic. Whether or not the mother was

vaccinated while pregnant, or ate seafood, or ate MSG, or has silver fillings

all of which may be factors, etc. etc. etc. is an entirely different story. I

am quite certain that my teenager's generation will seen lots of unvaccinated

Autistic children though...

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March 18, 2009

I agree - in my opinion from what I have seen it probably is things

that Dawn mentions below

But in most cases I see it is because some type of drug in pregnancy

- usually antibiotics, or antibiotics around delivery or mom with

antibiotics after that go thru breastmilk and/or baby gets

antibiotics right away. Also use of tylenol is implicated. And can

be emotional factors with issues during pregnancy. Or the parents

find out the baby actually did get hep b at birth (and had refused it).

These are some of my concerns and had wanted to do research/survey

with all unvaccinated with autism.

I do not know of any unvaxed with regressive autism - other than some

with antibiotic use.

All unvaxed with autism that I know have been autistic since birth.

The problem here is the label autism, also. Should not be used to

label everything that it does right now

Sheri

>I actually do not agree with this. There is a " very small " group and

>I mean extremely small group of children born autistic. Whether or

>not the mother was vaccinated while pregnant, or ate seafood, or ate

>MSG, or has silver fillings all of which may be factors, etc. etc.

>etc. is an entirely different story. I am quite certain that my

>teenager's generation will seen lots of unvaccinated Autistic

>children though...

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March 18, 2009

I actually attend Dr. Eisensteins primarily non vaccinating practice and

attended one of his vaccine information meetings about a year ago. He said in

his 30 years of practice he has had 2 cases of autism in his practice from

children who were not vaccinated, so this isnt an accurate article

March 18, 2009

I agree. I know a little boy with autism, no vax, and mom had no vaxes during

pregnancy. It does happen.

Lori

---- <tanyaligouri@...> wrote:

> I actually attend Dr. Eisensteins primarily non vaccinating practice and

attended one of his vaccine information meetings about a year ago. He said in

his 30 years of practice he has had 2 cases of autism in his practice from

children who were not vaccinated, so this isnt an accurate article

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March 18, 2009

And I'm dealing with autism in david and he's never had a vaccine either so

it's not a b/w thing, no autism =no vaccine. there's more than one cause

for autism. I think it's a combo of things

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March 18, 2009

Exactly... our environment is toxic. I am dealing with asthma in an

unvaccinated kid, too, so illness is out there, just not as prevalent

in the unvaccinated. I shudder to think would have happened had I

vaccinated, too! I HIGHLY suspect antibiotic use for a lot of the

chronic illness that we also associate with vaccines. Pile them all

up together with all the toxins in the standard household and in the

environment and it's a recipe for disaster any way you look at it! At

least we here are minimizing the exposure, even though we can't avoid

it altogether.

In the last couple of weeks I have had two of my ten-month-old son's

health care providers state that my son is lucky to have been born to

parents who do not vaccinate, because his immune system is so

compromised that he likely would not have survived the Hep B shot at

birth. They both went on to state that if he had managed to survive

the Hep B at birth, he most likely would not have survived DTaP and

the other vaccines at 2 months. I had this gut feeling all along, as

my son does seem very fragile (but has an extremely strong will), but

to hear health professionals say that is very sobering. I had to

hospitalize my son two weeks ago as we almost lost him and even the

allopathic pulmonary ped specialist was relieved to hear we did not

vaccinate him. He was trying to rule out possible causes of the

asthma, and was able to cross vaccines off the list, with a sigh of

relief.

I attribute my son's current state to the fact that I used antibiotics

while pregnant with him and again later, early in his nursing career.

I regret using them and wish I could go back and make my decisions

again. Everyone tries to convince me (even my chiro, who is

vehemently against all drug use under most circumstances) that I

needed both of these rounds of antibiotics and that in the

circumstances I was under the benefits far outweighed the risks, but I

can't help but think that I should have tried that " one more thing "

before giving in to the antibiotics. I just thank God every day that

I never used Tylenol nor have I ever given it to my son. That would

have only compounded the problem!

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Venita Garner <nitagarner@...> wrote:

> And I'm dealing with autism in david and he's never had a vaccine either so

> it's not a b/w thing, no autism =no vaccine. there's more than one cause

> for autism. I think it's a combo of things

March 24, 2009

Wish this were totally true.... I have a son who was never vaccinated and yet has autism. It is believed that he is mercury poisoned because of my dental amalgams, one of which was unsafely drilled out when I was 8 mos preg with him.

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March 26, 2009

Studies are being done that are confirming that vaccines are not the only cause

of autism-- that there are many environmental factors that can contribute to

this. But all of these factors, it is appearing, are man-introduced and can be

avoided when they're known about.

- Lemmon

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March 26, 2009

Studies are being done that are confirming that vaccines are not the only cause

of autism-- that there are many environmental factors that can contribute to

this. But all of these factors, it is appearing, are man-introduced and can be

avoided when they're known about.

- Lemmon

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> From: Sunshine Organics <cbsunshinemac (DOT) com>

> Subject: [no-forced-vaccinat ion] NO AUTISM In Never-Vaccinated Children

> " Vaccinations Group " <Vaccinations>, no-forced-vaccinati

ongroups (DOT) com

> Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 9:21 PM

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March 26, 2009

We have four families in our clinic who did not vaccinate their children.

E. on RN,MSN

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March 26, 2009

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NO AUTISM In

Never-Vaccinated Children

From Alan Cantwell MD

From Philip Rudnick PhD

3-8-9

Dear Drs. Eisenstein and Bradstreet:

Re: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of never- vaccinated

children whose parents received exemptions through Illinois' relatively

permissive immunization policy. Homefirst's medical director, Dr. Mayer

Eisenstein, told us he is not aware of any cases of autism in never-vaccinated

children; the national rate is 1 in 175, according to the Centers for Disease

Control and Prevention. " We have a fairly large practice, " Eisenstein told us.

" We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children that we've taken care of over the

years, and I don't think we have a single case of autism in children delivered

by us who never received vaccines. " We do have enough of a sample, " Eisenstein

said. " The numbers are too large to not see it. We would absolutely know. We're

all family doctors. If I have a child with autism come in, there's no

communication. It's frightening. You can't touch them. It's not something that

anyone would miss. "

Now that you've told us what you " think " , when will you collect the facts and

publish the results?

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" Dr. Jeff Bradstreet, a Florida family practitioner with ties to families who

homeschool their children for religious reasons, told Age of Autism he has

proposed such a study in that group. " I said I know I can tap into this

community and find you large numbers of unvaccinated homeschooled, " said

Bradstreet, " and we can do simple prevalence and incidence studies in them, and

my gut reaction is that you're going to see no autism in this group. " "

Now that you've told us what you " can " do, when will you do it and publish the

results?

Sincerely yours,

Philip Rudnick, PhD

Professor Emeritus, Chemistry

West Chester University of Pennsylvania

Dan Olmsted

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/olmsted_h.html

" A specter is haunting the medical and journalism establishments of the United

States: Where are the unvaccinated people with autism? " ---Dan Olmsted

[Dan Olmsted did the research the vaccine industry and media refused to do and

found little or no autism in the unvaccinated Amish and Homefirst Medical

Services children.]

Web: http://www.ageofautism.com/

" I have not seen autism with the Amish, " said Dr. Noonan, a family

practitioner in Lancaster County, Pa., who has treated thousands of Amish for a

quarter-century. " You'll find all the other stuff, but we don't find the autism.

We're right in the heart of Amish country and seeing none, and that's just the

way it is. "

In Chicago, Homefirst Medical Services treats thousands of never-vaccinated