Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

[Guest guest]

jodie,having a lot of confusion and fatigue so i may ramble and talk in circles---sorry.

so sorry about the moving things.  not knowing is so stressful.  my daughter has gone through a lot of things  with her ex husband.  she was not sick with lyme, but i saw the horrible stress it put on her.  she stayed here almost 2 yrs to get herself together, then moved into seattle where there was a part time job.  it is still hard and she calls and is discouraged.  but you have a child also, making it harder.  i'm so sorry.

senna is gentler than cascara seg., may be easier on his stomach, but may not work as well either.  worth a try.  i found that oxy powder  

http://www.oxypowder.com/  to be very helpful.  it can be expensive so i alternate with senna or the cas. seg.  oxy pd says 4 caps, which is what i use, as less doesn't work as well, but he is little so would probably take less and thus cheaper.

with the paralysis of the gut, solids stay in the colon longer, allowing more water to be absorbed, resulting in hard, packed stool.  for me, this creates the blockages and nothing moves and everything backs up.  i found the enema really helps. i have to keep them up or things will back up, even with the stimulants.  if i can keep the packed stools from blocking things it helps.   however, if i don't take something it takes a few days to get it to move again.  sooooo...i found it takes both for best results

i tried the vit. c and nothing.  i have tried milk of mag and it works good.  i need to capsule up mag. and try higher doses of that.  not sure how well it will work as even the oxy pd. struggles sometimes.  don't know what else to try in supps.  

binders are a big problem. absolutely cannot do clay or fibers.  have tried for yrs., disastrous.  don't know about the d.e., but i would guess that is similar to clay or fiber.  things like charcoal-bad.  chlorella was also bad with only 1 tablet.  glucammanon seemed ok with 1 x day, but to be honest have not been consistent here. ( need to get a schedule.  i put mms next to the recliner and still forget it.) absolute 'space cadet'.   did 2 x day a couple of times, but seems i was having trouble then.

just got the apple pectin so have only done it 1-2x.  only did a tsp and they call for 5 gr.  a little cautious here. however, i can eat an apple (high in pectin) and it sometimes helps.  'an apple a day keeps the dr away' as the old saying goes.  maybe they knew more in those days. 

been considering the constipation thing and realize that the const. lyme causes makes all the detoxing so much harder--and life in general.  they say to do bart first as it is aggressive, but i think once a person gets it to little to no herx, get on the lyme. 

 i'm getting really sick again in my stomach, just like i was before abx in 07, could hardly stand up.  couldn't eat. then there is the sweating!!!  mag oil has help calm the heart!!   right now i still don't know if my symptoms are candida or bart.  i'm coiling for a wk for candida to see if it makes any difference.  usually, except this last time, 4-5 min. treatments knocked it back down with little herx--by staying on top of it.  i'll coil for bart next wk to see if it is still around--probably so. can't right now as kids and g.kids coming tomorrow. will do it when they leave.

so, are you working on the lyme also??  i said all this because the lyme is causing the const. preventing progress in other areas for me, and was wondering if you are dealing with the same thing??  so, i just don't understand if one has bart, how you cannot treat for both. if you don't get the lyme, you often can't get all the bart.  but bart has tough symptoms so you can't let it go and only treat lyme.  and, you can't deal with both the herxes either. a 'catch 22' so to speak.  

so, i know for myself, i have spent 2+ yrs concentrating on coiling for bart (and babs) and can't get rid of it.  so have gone all that time and feel i have missed a lot of productive killing time with just bart when i should also have been doing some lyme coiling when bart was giving no herxes.  wish i had known that 2 yrs ago.  

barbara

 

Barbara, No.....everything we have tried to do....has not worked out. It has added so much stress! This has been going on for over 6 months..... I just want to get moved, settled, and get on with things! They say to keep stress to a minimal is best but I would like to know how when everything is in such a disarray....

between the health of both my son and I....lack of where we are going to live...and dave's boss keeps stringing him along with more hrs...but it's always in another 2 weeks--it is driving my entire family nuts. AND....everything is in boxes on top....of that.

Anyways.....what are you using for constipation? It seems killing of these bugs has made my son's constipation worse. I already give him, 1 cascara sagara(sp) pill, he has a constipation dropper and now back to giving him enema's(low-volume) 1-2x a day. UGG! Mag.(orally-doesn't help his gut issues)What is the other stuff you use to help? Have u ever tried apple pectin as a binder? If so, did it worsen constipation? Does diahtamceous earth add to constipation? As always trying to figure things out. This is in regards to my son...not me. TIA, Jodie L.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started out

> > at

> > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I would

> > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I

> > would

> > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on the

> > 20th.

> > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from rife

> > or

> > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really tell

> > if

> > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway, my

> > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to work

> > up to

> > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2

> > min on

> > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really

> > tell if

> > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the last

> > couple

> > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my naturopath

> > says 1

> > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328 &

> > 10k at

> > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as

> > just

> > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they are

> > all

> > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to find

> > their

> > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these other

> > lyme

> > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Susie

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodie and Barbara

Sorry to hear abotu the stress.

For contipation i uses magnesium citrate up to 5 pill per meal

I pile up a bowl of spinach plus prune juice plus senna or sleepery help on th etop of th emagnesium citrate.

What I would do is to first get the amountof all htis to make it loos then ad a littl ebit of bibder increasing the mg citrate as need

catro oil works too be carefull go very slowly on this I think it is to be sued just coccasionnally .

KIndly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:17 AMSubject: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

jodie,

having a lot of confusion and fatigue so i may ramble and talk in circles---sorry.

so sorry about the moving things. not knowing is so stressful. my daughter has gone through a lot of things with her ex husband. she was not sick with lyme, but i saw the horrible stress it put on her. she stayed here almost 2 yrs to get herself together, then moved into seattle where there was a part time job. it is still hard and she calls and is discouraged. but you have a child also, making it harder. i'm so sorry.

senna is gentler than cascara seg., may be easier on his stomach, but may not work as well either. worth a try. i found that oxy powder http://www.oxypowder.com/ to be very helpful. it can be expensive so i alternate with senna or the cas. seg. oxy pd says 4 caps, which is what i use, as less doesn't work as well, but he is little so would probably take less and thus cheaper.

with the paralysis of the gut, solids stay in the colon longer, allowing more water to be absorbed, resulting in hard, packed stool. for me, this creates the blockages and nothing moves and everything backs up. i found the enema really helps. i have to keep them up or things will back up, even with the stimulants. if i can keep the packed stools from blocking things it helps. however, if i don't take something it takes a few days to get it to move again. sooooo...i found it takes both for best results

i tried the vit. c and nothing. i have tried milk of mag and it works good. i need to capsule up mag. and try higher doses of that. not sure how well it will work as even the oxy pd. struggles sometimes. don't know what else to try in supps.

binders are a big problem. absolutely cannot do clay or fibers. have tried for yrs., disastrous. don't know about the d.e., but i would guess that is similar to clay or fiber. things like charcoal-bad. chlorella was also bad with only 1 tablet. glucammanon seemed ok with 1 x day, but to be honest have not been consistent here. ( need to get a schedule. i put mms next to the recliner and still forget it.) absolute 'space cadet'. did 2 x day a couple of times, but seems i was having trouble then.

just got the apple pectin so have only done it 1-2x. only did a tsp and they call for 5 gr. a little cautious here. however, i can eat an apple (high in pectin) and it sometimes helps. 'an apple a day keeps the dr away' as the old saying goes. maybe they knew more in those days.

been considering the constipation thing and realize that the const. lyme causes makes all the detoxing so much harder--and life in general. they say to do bart first as it is aggressive, but i think once a person gets it to little to no herx, get on the lyme.

i'm getting really sick again in my stomach, just like i was before abx in 07, could hardly stand up. couldn't eat. then there is the sweating!!! mag oil has help calm the heart!! right now i still don't know if my symptoms are candida or bart. i'm coiling for a wk for candida to see if it makes any difference. usually, except this last time, 4-5 min. treatments knocked it back down with little herx--by staying on top of it. i'll coil for bart next wk to see if it is still around--probably so. can't right now as kids and g.kids coming tomorrow. will do it when they leave.

so, are you working on the lyme also?? i said all this because the lyme is causing the const. preventing progress in other areas for me, and was wondering if you are dealing with the same thing?? so, i just don't understand if one has bart, how you cannot treat for both. if you don't get the lyme, you often can't get all the bart. but bart has tough symptoms so you can't let it go and only treat lyme. and, you can't deal with both the herxes either. a 'catch 22' so to speak.

so, i know for myself, i have spent 2+ yrs concentrating on coiling for bart (and babs) and can't get rid of it. so have gone all that time and feel i have missed a lot of productive killing time with just bart when i should also have been doing some lyme coiling when bart was giving no herxes. wish i had known that 2 yrs ago.

barbara

Barbara, No.....everything we have tried to do....has not worked out. It has added so much stress! This has been going on for over 6 months..... I just want to get moved, settled, and get on with things! They say to keep stress to a minimal is best but I would like to know how when everything is in such a disarray....between the health of both my son and I....lack of where we are going to live...and dave's boss keeps stringing him along with more hrs...but it's always in another 2 weeks--it is driving my entire family nuts. AND....everything is in boxes on top....of that.Anyways.....what are you using for constipation? It seems killing of these bugs has made my son's constipation worse. I already give him, 1 cascara sagara(sp) pill, he has a constipation dropper and now back to giving him enema's(low-volume) 1-2x a day. UGG! Mag.(orally-doesn't help his gut issues)What is the other stuff you use to help? Have u ever tried apple pectin as

a binder? If so, did it worsen constipation? Does diahtamceous earth add to constipation? As always trying to figure things out. This is in regards to my son...not me. TIA, Jodie L.> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all,>

> > > > >> > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started out> > at> > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I would> > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I> > would> > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on the> > 20th.> > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from rife> > or> > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really tell> > if> > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway, my> > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to work> > up to> > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30

at 1 min each & 2> > min on> > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really> > tell if> > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the last> > couple> > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my naturopath> > says 1> > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328 & > > 10k at> > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as> > just> > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they are> > all> > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to find> > their> > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these other> > lyme> >

> > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > Susie> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

marie,you're right, the caster oil is potent stuff.  my daughter took it when her first baby was late, and he came.

5 pills a meal.  how many mg per pill.  would it be cheaper to buy bulk and capsulize them yourself.  i bought the bulk, just have to cap them, so was wondering how many mg. yours are.

i love the prune juice, but have to watch the candida.  drank a bottle one time when i needed it.  it did nothing.  i was really constipated.  it has worked for me at other times, though.  

so, by taking all of this you are able to use the binders?  do you need it all everyday?  jody, will wyatt drink prune juice?  if he will it may work well for him as he is young and not had the constipation as long as we have. i would start with that. plus nutritious.  don't get the reconstituted kind.  get the 'not from concentrate'.  it works better, no 'municiple' water in it, and tastes better.

marie, slippery elm works for const.?  knew it was good for stomach but didn't know it helped with const.  i have that also. 

adding the binder is what i've been doing with gluc.  took two at a time one time and had trouble.  so maybe need to add the s.elm, or mag after each meal. 

thanks marie

 

Hi Jodie and Barbara

Sorry to hear abotu the stress.

For contipation i uses magnesium citrate up to 5 pill per meal

I pile up a bowl of spinach plus prune juice plus senna or sleepery help on th etop of th emagnesium citrate.

What I would do is to first get the amountof all htis to make it loos then ad a littl ebit of bibder increasing the mg citrate as need

catro oil works too be carefull go very slowly on this I think it is to be sued just coccasionnally .

KIndly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:17 AM

Subject: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

 

jodie,

having a lot of confusion and fatigue so i may ramble and talk in circles---sorry.

so sorry about the moving things.  not knowing is so stressful.  my daughter has gone through a lot of things  with her ex husband.  she was not sick with lyme, but i saw the horrible stress it put on her.  she stayed here almost 2 yrs to get herself together, then moved into seattle where there was a part time job.  it is still hard and she calls and is discouraged.  but you have a child also, making it harder.  i'm so sorry.

senna is gentler than cascara seg., may be easier on his stomach, but may not work as well either.  worth a try.  i found that oxy powder   http://www.oxypowder.com/  to be very helpful.  it can be expensive so i alternate with senna or the cas. seg.  oxy pd says 4 caps, which is what i use, as less doesn't work as well, but he is little so would probably take less and thus cheaper.

with the paralysis of the gut, solids stay in the colon longer, allowing more water to be absorbed, resulting in hard, packed stool.  for me, this creates the blockages and nothing moves and everything backs up.  i found the enema really helps. i have to keep them up or things will back up, even with the stimulants.  if i can keep the packed stools from blocking things it helps.   however, if i don't take something it takes a few days to get it to move again.  sooooo...i found it takes both for best results

i tried the vit. c and nothing.  i have tried milk of mag and it works good.  i need to capsule up mag. and try higher doses of that.  not sure how well it will work as even the oxy pd. struggles sometimes.  don't know what else to try in supps.  

binders are a big problem. absolutely cannot do clay or fibers.  have tried for yrs., disastrous.  don't know about the d.e., but i would guess that is similar to clay or fiber.  things like charcoal-bad.  chlorella was also bad with only 1 tablet.  glucammanon seemed ok with 1 x day, but to be honest have not been consistent here. ( need to get a schedule.  i put mms next to the recliner and still forget it.) absolute 'space cadet'.   did 2 x day a couple of times, but seems i was having trouble then.

just got the apple pectin so have only done it 1-2x.  only did a tsp and they call for 5 gr.  a little cautious here. however, i can eat an apple (high in pectin) and it sometimes helps.  'an apple a day keeps the dr away' as the old saying goes.  maybe they knew more in those days. 

been considering the constipation thing and realize that the const. lyme causes makes all the detoxing so much harder--and life in general.  they say to do bart first as it is aggressive, but i think once a person gets it to little to no herx, get on the lyme. 

 i'm getting really sick again in my stomach, just like i was before abx in 07, could hardly stand up.  couldn't eat. then there is the sweating!!!  mag oil has help calm the heart!!   right now i still don't know if my symptoms are candida or bart.  i'm coiling for a wk for candida to see if it makes any difference.  usually, except this last time, 4-5 min. treatments knocked it back down with little herx--by staying on top of it.  i'll coil for bart next wk to see if it is still around--probably so. can't right now as kids and g.kids coming tomorrow. will do it when they leave.

so, are you working on the lyme also??  i said all this because the lyme is causing the const. preventing progress in other areas for me, and was wondering if you are dealing with the same thing??  so, i just don't understand if one has bart, how you cannot treat for both. if you don't get the lyme, you often can't get all the bart.  but bart has tough symptoms so you can't let it go and only treat lyme.  and, you can't deal with both the herxes either. a 'catch 22' so to speak.  

so, i know for myself, i have spent 2+ yrs concentrating on coiling for bart (and babs) and can't get rid of it.  so have gone all that time and feel i have missed a lot of productive killing time with just bart when i should also have been doing some lyme coiling when bart was giving no herxes.  wish i had known that 2 yrs ago.  

barbara

 

Barbara, No.....everything we have tried to do....has not worked out. It has added so much stress! This has been going on for over 6 months..... I just want to get moved, settled, and get on with things! They say to keep stress to a minimal is best but I would like to know how when everything is in such a disarray....

between the health of both my son and I....lack of where we are going to live...and dave's boss keeps stringing him along with more hrs...but it's always in another 2 weeks--it is driving my entire family nuts. AND....everything is in boxes on top....of that.

Anyways.....what are you using for constipation? It seems killing of these bugs has made my son's constipation worse. I already give him, 1 cascara sagara(sp) pill, he has a constipation dropper and now back to giving him enema's(low-volume) 1-2x a day. UGG! Mag.(orally-doesn't help his gut issues)What is the other stuff you use to help? Have u ever tried apple pectin as

a binder? If so, did it worsen constipation? Does diahtamceous earth add to constipation? As always trying to figure things out. This is in regards to my son...not me. TIA, Jodie L.

> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all,>

> > > > >> > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started out> > at> > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I would

> > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I> > would> > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on the> > 20th.

> > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from rife> > or> > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really tell> > if

> > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway, my> > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to work> > up to> > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30

at 1 min each & 2> > min on> > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really> > tell if> > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the last

> > couple> > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my naturopath> > says 1> > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328 &

> > 10k at> > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as> > just> > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they are

> > all> > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to find> > their> > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these other

> > lyme> >

> > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > Susie> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Jodie, I tried the UPPER DIGESTIVE SYSTEM and LOWER DIGESTIVE SYSTEM Sound Wave Energy CDs (2) from the Physical Awareness Series. Though I didn't have constipation problems, I was curious about sound frequencies. A few days BMs were as many as five to start, then averaged around three daily. - So I 'noticed' more daily movements. I just noticed on the FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTION "Please take note that repetition is used only when many CDs are played successively.

Please do not play one CD repeatedly as it may engender healing crisis." I had usually played the two CDs in repetition while I slept, and sometimes just once. Haven't had any problems. Some CDs should not be played as much....Maybe sound frequencies could help your son? Can't buy the Upper and Lower Digestive CDs separately from the Physical Awareness Series either. There's a recommended playing order. Maybe other companies sell digestive CDs individually?Site - http://www.harmonyera.com/4.3.2.series.htm

[Guest guest]

Hi Jodie L,

Prune juice and prunes are good for constipation....

And if they fail, magnesium citrate hourly in higher amounts

works because it is poorly taken in by the body, thus

most goes right to the colon...

Also, high amounts of Vit C hourly works also..

And you are correct, stress is a killer for us, it can weaken the immune

system and allow pathogens to reproduce faster.

Jim

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started out

> > > at

> > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I

would

> > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I

> > > would

> > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on the

> > > 20th.

> > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from rife

> > > or

> > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really tell

> > > if

> > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway, my

> > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to work

> > > up to

> > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2

> > > min on

> > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really

> > > tell if

> > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the last

> > > couple

> > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my naturopath

> > > says 1

> > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328 &

> > > 10k at

> > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as

> > > just

> > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they are

> > > all

> > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to find

> > > their

> > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these other

> > > lyme

> > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Susie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Barbara,

I di dnto know castor oil make you have your baby ! Did I understan well ?

I put some iodine in the prune juice for cancida if it is in th emrorning and bicarbonate of sodium in the evening far from meal . canadidas are in despear with this attack .

If I pile up spinach +prune +senna leafs and sleepery helm and magnesium citrae I am sure to go .

my mg citrate is 160 mg per pill surely bulk might be cheaper .

I do nto know if sleepery helm works for constipation or not as i added it a mon tor two ago It act like a fiber so it might help at least as a fiber when a diet doe snot have enought of it .

I do it because I try everyhting people talk about and some saif it was good for the gut . At this time I had alerady find the mixing that was efefctive for me . To my opinion it is just fiber

making volume and making it slide . I think it allows to goather mucus in the gut also .

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:18 AMSubject: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

marie,

you're right, the caster oil is potent stuff. my daughter took it when her first baby was late, and he came.

5 pills a meal. how many mg per pill. would it be cheaper to buy bulk and capsulize them yourself. i bought the bulk, just have to cap them, so was wondering how many mg. yours are.

i love the prune juice, but have to watch the candida. drank a bottle one time when i needed it. it did nothing. i was really constipated. it has worked for me at other times, though.

so, by taking all of this you are able to use the binders? do you need it all everyday?

jody, will wyatt drink prune juice? if he will it may work well for him as he is young and not had the constipation as long as we have. i would start with that. plus nutritious. don't get the reconstituted kind. get the 'not from concentrate'. it works better, no 'municiple' water in it, and tastes better.

marie, slippery elm works for const.? knew it was good for stomach but didn't know it helped with const. i have that also.

adding the binder is what i've been doing with gluc. took two at a time one time and had trouble. so maybe need to add the s.elm, or mag after each meal.

thanks marie

Hi Jodie and Barbara

Sorry to hear abotu the stress.

For contipation i uses magnesium citrate up to 5 pill per meal

I pile up a bowl of spinach plus prune juice plus senna or sleepery help on th etop of th emagnesium citrate.

What I would do is to first get the amountof all htis to make it loos then ad a littl ebit of bibder increasing the mg citrate as need

catro oil works too be carefull go very slowly on this I think it is to be sued just coccasionnally .

KIndly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:17 AMSubject: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

jodie,

having a lot of confusion and fatigue so i may ramble and talk in circles---sorry.

so sorry about the moving things. not knowing is so stressful. my daughter has gone through a lot of things with her ex husband. she was not sick with lyme, but i saw the horrible stress it put on her. she stayed here almost 2 yrs to get herself together, then moved into seattle where there was a part time job. it is still hard and she calls and is discouraged. but you have a child also, making it harder. i'm so sorry.

senna is gentler than cascara seg., may be easier on his stomach, but may not work as well either. worth a try. i found that oxy powder http://www.oxypowder.com/ to be very helpful. it can be expensive so i alternate with senna or the cas. seg. oxy pd says 4 caps, which is what i use, as less doesn't work as well, but he is little so would probably take less and thus cheaper.

with the paralysis of the gut, solids stay in the colon longer, allowing more water to be absorbed, resulting in hard, packed stool. for me, this creates the blockages and nothing moves and everything backs up. i found the enema really helps. i have to keep them up or things will back up, even with the stimulants. if i can keep the packed stools from blocking things it helps. however, if i don't take something it takes a few days to get it to move again. sooooo...i found it takes both for best results

i tried the vit. c and nothing. i have tried milk of mag and it works good. i need to capsule up mag. and try higher doses of that. not sure how well it will work as even the oxy pd. struggles sometimes. don't know what else to try in supps.

binders are a big problem. absolutely cannot do clay or fibers. have tried for yrs., disastrous. don't know about the d.e., but i would guess that is similar to clay or fiber. things like charcoal-bad. chlorella was also bad with only 1 tablet. glucammanon seemed ok with 1 x day, but to be honest have not been consistent here. ( need to get a schedule. i put mms next to the recliner and still forget it.) absolute 'space cadet'. did 2 x day a couple of times, but seems i was having trouble then.

just got the apple pectin so have only done it 1-2x. only did a tsp and they call for 5 gr. a little cautious here. however, i can eat an apple (high in pectin) and it sometimes helps. 'an apple a day keeps the dr away' as the old saying goes. maybe they knew more in those days.

been considering the constipation thing and realize that the const. lyme causes makes all the detoxing so much harder--and life in general. they say to do bart first as it is aggressive, but i think once a person gets it to little to no herx, get on the lyme.

i'm getting really sick again in my stomach, just like i was before abx in 07, could hardly stand up. couldn't eat. then there is the sweating!!! mag oil has help calm the heart!! right now i still don't know if my symptoms are candida or bart. i'm coiling for a wk for candida to see if it makes any difference. usually, except this last time, 4-5 min. treatments knocked it back down with little herx--by staying on top of it. i'll coil for bart next wk to see if it is still around--probably so. can't right now as kids and g.kids coming tomorrow. will do it when they leave.

so, are you working on the lyme also?? i said all this because the lyme is causing the const. preventing progress in other areas for me, and was wondering if you are dealing with the same thing?? so, i just don't understand if one has bart, how you cannot treat for both. if you don't get the lyme, you often can't get all the bart. but bart has tough symptoms so you can't let it go and only treat lyme. and, you can't deal with both the herxes either. a 'catch 22' so to speak.

so, i know for myself, i have spent 2+ yrs concentrating on coiling for bart (and babs) and can't get rid of it. so have gone all that time and feel i have missed a lot of productive killing time with just bart when i should also have been doing some lyme coiling when bart was giving no herxes. wish i had known that 2 yrs ago.

barbara

Barbara, No.....everything we have tried to do....has not worked out. It has added so much stress! This has been going on for over 6 months..... I just want to get moved, settled, and get on with things! They say to keep stress to a minimal is best but I would like to know how when everything is in such a disarray....between the health of both my son and I....lack of where we are going to live...and dave's boss keeps stringing him along with more hrs...but it's always in another 2 weeks--it is driving my entire family nuts. AND....everything is in boxes on top....of that.Anyways.....what are you using for constipation? It seems killing of these bugs has made my son's constipation worse. I already give him, 1 cascara sagara(sp) pill, he has a constipation dropper and now back to giving him enema's(low-volume) 1-2x a day. UGG! Mag.(orally-doesn't help his gut issues)What is the other stuff you use to help? Have u ever tried apple pectin as

a binder? If so, did it worsen constipation? Does diahtamceous earth add to constipation? As always trying to figure things out. This is in regards to my son...not me. TIA, Jodie L.> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi all,>

> > > > >> > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started out> > at> > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I would> > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I> > would> > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on the> > 20th.> > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from rife> > or> > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really tell> > if> > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway, my> > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to work> > up to> > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30

at 1 min each & 2> > min on> > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really> > tell if> > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the last> > couple> > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my naturopath> > says 1> > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328 & > > 10k at> > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as> > just> > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they are> > all> > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to find> > their> > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these other> > lyme> >

> > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > > >> > > > > > Susie> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

Barbara, we have had severe constipation issues since Wyatt got the MMR(and

other shot lot). It had gotten better.....but has gotten worse as of late. I

am no stranger to this....it gets old....looking for new tricks and ideas. The

enemas have always been great, but using them more lately as a means of detox.

I am alternating the binders, charcoal and pectin and he takes DE.

Barbara....my suspect is the pectin is a bit constipating (at least for him).

Jodie L.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started

> > out

> > > > at

> > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I

> > would

> > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I

> > > > would

> > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on

> > the

> > > > 20th.

> > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from

> > rife

> > > > or

> > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really

> > tell

> > > > if

> > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway,

> > my

> > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to

> > work

> > > > up to

> > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2

> > > > min on

> > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really

> > > > tell if

> > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the

> > last

> > > > couple

> > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my

> > naturopath

> > > > says 1

> > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328

> > &

> > > > 10k at

> > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as

> > > > just

> > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they

> > are

> > > > all

> > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to

> > find

> > > > their

> > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these

> > other

> > > > lyme

> > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Susie

> > > > > > > >

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> >

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>

[Guest guest]

Marie, Does it cause u constipation (charcoal)? Jodie L.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started

> > > out

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I

> > > would

> > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on

> > > the

> > > > > 20th.

> > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from

> > > rife

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really

> > > tell

> > > > > if

> > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway,

> > > my

> > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to

> > > work

> > > > > up to

> > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each &

2

> > > > > min on

> > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't

really

> > > > > tell if

> > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the

> > > last

> > > > > couple

> > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my

> > > naturopath

> > > > > says 1

> > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328

> > > &

> > > > > 10k at

> > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective

as

> > > > > just

> > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they

> > > are

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to

> > > find

> > > > > their

> > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these

> > > other

> > > > > lyme

> > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Susie

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

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>

[Guest guest]

Yes charcoal gives me a super constipation taken orally ,

but taken in an aenema no it goes right away and absorb the toxines in the colon

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:39 PMSubject: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

Marie, Does it cause u constipation (charcoal)? Jodie L.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started> > > out> > > > > at> > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I> > > would> > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I> > > > > would> > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on> > > the> > > > > 20th.> > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from> > > rife> > > > > or> > >

> > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really> > > tell> > > > > if> > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway,> > > my> > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to> > > work> > > > > up to> > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2> > > > > min on> > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really> > > > > tell if> > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the> > > last> > > > > couple> > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2

weeks to rife, but my> > > naturopath> > > > > says 1> > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328> > > & > > > > > 10k at> > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as> > > > > just> > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they> > > are> > > > > all> > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to> > > find> > > > > their> > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these> > > other> > > > > lyme> > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > >

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Susie> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Marie, ..thanks! I take charcoal in capsules...so no mess or taste! But with

Wyatt I have to break them up...and he says its disgusting! Thanks for the

insight. Now....I can make things easier and give it in the enema to help.

JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I

started

> > > > out

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first,

I

> > > > would

> > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away &

I

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on

> > > > the

> > > > > > 20th.

> > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from

> > > > rife

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't

really

> > > > tell

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence.

Anyway,

> > > > my

> > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to

> > > > work

> > > > > > up to

> > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each

& 2

> > > > > > min on

> > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't

really

> > > > > > tell if

> > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the

> > > > last

> > > > > > couple

> > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my

> > > > naturopath

> > > > > > says 1

> > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800,

4328

> > > > &

> > > > > > 10k at

> > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective

as

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they

> > > > are

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to

> > > > find

> > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these

> > > > other

> > > > > > lyme

> > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Susie

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

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>

[Guest guest]

Your welcome JOdie happy to have been of help

kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:35 PMSubject: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

Marie, ..thanks! I take charcoal in capsules...so no mess or taste! But with Wyatt I have to break them up...and he says its disgusting! Thanks for the insight. Now....I can make things easier and give it in the enema to help. JOdie L. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started> > > > out> > > > > > at> > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I> > > > would> > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on> > > > the> > > > > > 20th.> > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from> > > > rife> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really>

> > > tell> > > > > > if> > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway,> > > > my> > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to> > > > work> > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2> > > > > > min on> > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really> > > > > > tell if> > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the> > > > last> > > > > > couple> > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but

my> > > > naturopath> > > > > > says 1> > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328> > > > & > > > > > > 10k at> > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as> > > > > > just> > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they> > > > are> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to> > > > find> > > > > > their> > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these> > > > other> > > > > > lyme> > > > > >

> > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Susie> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

marie, jodie,marie, yes caster oil is an old remedy if the baby is late.  it moms body is not ready it will not work, but if it is, and the baby is just being stubborn, it just gets things moving and will often induce labor.  she was late so the c.oil worked.

i had not thought of charcoal in the enema.  yes, it would pull out toxins if you can leave it in long enough--that the problem for me.  maybe a little less liquid volume and that might work. but, there is always a residue left behind, so that would work also.  i know i can't ingest it, as i will not go for a month.  

jodie, did you tell me about your move?  did i miss a post, or did i just forget?  how is wyatt?  

barbara

 

Marie, ..thanks! I take charcoal in capsules...so no mess or taste! But with Wyatt I have to break them up...and he says its disgusting! Thanks for the insight. Now....I can make things easier and give it in the enema to help. JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I started

> > > > out

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I

> > > > would

> > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on

> > > > the

> > > > > > 20th.

> > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from

> > > > rife

> > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really

> > > > tell

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence. Anyway,

> > > > my

> > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to

> > > > work

> > > > > > up to

> > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2

> > > > > > min on

> > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really

> > > > > > tell if

> > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the

> > > > last

> > > > > > couple

> > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my

> > > > naturopath

> > > > > > says 1

> > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328

> > > > &

> > > > > > 10k at

> > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as

> > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they

> > > > are

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to

> > > > find

> > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these

> > > > other

> > > > > > lyme

> > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Susie

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[Guest guest]

Barbara I do not keep i tinside at all and it doe sgood anyway ,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

marie, jodie,

marie, yes caster oil is an old remedy if the baby is late. it moms body is not ready it will not work, but if it is, and the baby is just being stubborn, it just gets things moving and will often induce labor. she was late so the c.oil worked.

i had not thought of charcoal in the enema. yes, it would pull out toxins if you can leave it in long enough--that the problem for me. maybe a little less liquid volume and that might work. but, there is always a residue left behind, so that would work also. i know i can't ingest it, as i will not go for a month.

jodie, did you tell me about your move? did i miss a post, or did i just forget?

how is wyatt?

barbara

Marie, ..thanks! I take charcoal in capsules...so no mess or taste! But with Wyatt I have to break them up...and he says its disgusting! Thanks for the insight. Now....I can make things easier and give it in the enema to help. JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq.

I started> > > > out> > > > > > at> > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I> > > > would> > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on> > > > the> > > > > > 20th.> > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from> > > > rife> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really> > > > tell> > > > > > if> > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it

is just a coincidence. Anyway,> > > > my> > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to> > > > work> > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2> > > > > > min on> > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really> > > > > > tell if> > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the> > > > last> > > > > > couple> > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my> > > > naturopath> > > > > > says 1> > > > > > > > week is good. My

question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328> > > > & > > > > > > 10k at> > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as> > > > > > just> > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they> > > > are> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to> > > > find> > > > > > their> > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these> > > > other> > > > > > lyme> > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > Susie> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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Interesting Barbara ,

and at what dosage please just as a curiosity ?

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

marie, jodie,

marie, yes caster oil is an old remedy if the baby is late. it moms body is not ready it will not work, but if it is, and the baby is just being stubborn, it just gets things moving and will often induce labor. she was late so the c.oil worked.

i had not thought of charcoal in the enema. yes, it would pull out toxins if you can leave it in long enough--that the problem for me. maybe a little less liquid volume and that might work. but, there is always a residue left behind, so that would work also. i know i can't ingest it, as i will not go for a month.

jodie, did you tell me about your move? did i miss a post, or did i just forget?

how is wyatt?

barbara

Marie, ..thanks! I take charcoal in capsules...so no mess or taste! But with Wyatt I have to break them up...and he says its disgusting! Thanks for the insight. Now....I can make things easier and give it in the enema to help. JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq.

I started> > > > out> > > > > > at> > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At first, I> > > > would> > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go away & I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired even on> > > > the> > > > > > 20th.> > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling lousy from> > > > rife> > > > > > or> > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't really> > > > tell> > > > > > if> > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it

is just a coincidence. Anyway,> > > > my> > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & 10,000) & to> > > > work> > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min each & 2> > > > > > min on> > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I can't really> > > > > > tell if> > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I rifed the> > > > last> > > > > > couple> > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my> > > > naturopath> > > > > > says 1> > > > > > > > week is good. My

question is, is anybody else using freq 800, 4328> > > > & > > > > > > 10k at> > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as effective as> > > > > > just> > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists that they> > > > are> > > > > > all> > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody has to> > > > find> > > > > > their> > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using these> > > > other> > > > > > lyme> > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > Susie> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> >>

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Barbara, I posted the other day about not moving yet and being unsettled. You

did respond but you said you were in a " difficult " spot at the time....so u

forgot my dear. But that is okay! Something will work out eventually.....I hope

soon Thank-you! JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I

> > started

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At

> > first, I

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go

> > away & I

> > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired

> > even on

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 20th.

> > > > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling

> > lousy from

> > > > > > rife

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't

> > really

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence.

> > Anyway,

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 &

> > 10,000) & to

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > up to

> > > > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min

> > each & 2

> > > > > > > > min on

> > > > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I

> > can't really

> > > > > > > > tell if

> > > > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I

> > rifed the

> > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > couple

> > > > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my

> > > > > > naturopath

> > > > > > > > says 1

> > > > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq

> > 800, 4328

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > 10k at

> > > > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as

> > effective as

> > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists

> > that they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody

> > has to

> > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using

> > these

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > lyme

> > > > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Susie

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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> >

> >

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>

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marie, not sure about the dose, but i'm thinking about a tablespoon full, probably.  i think a little goes a long ways with that stuff.  if you need to know for sure i can ask my daughter.  barbara

 

Barbara, I posted the other day about not moving yet and being unsettled. You did respond but you said you were in a " difficult " spot at the time....so u forgot my dear. But that is okay! Something will work out eventually.....I hope soon Thank-you! JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I

> > started

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At

> > first, I

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go

> > away & I

> > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired

> > even on

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 20th.

> > > > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling

> > lousy from

> > > > > > rife

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't

> > really

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence.

> > Anyway,

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 &

> > 10,000) & to

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > up to

> > > > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min

> > each & 2

> > > > > > > > min on

> > > > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I

> > can't really

> > > > > > > > tell if

> > > > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I

> > rifed the

> > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > couple

> > > > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my

> > > > > > naturopath

> > > > > > > > says 1

> > > > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq

> > 800, 4328

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > 10k at

> > > > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as

> > effective as

> > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists

> > that they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody

> > has to

> > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using

> > these

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > lyme

> > > > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Susie

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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jodie, sorry, more than a senior moment.  more like a senior decade.  hope you get settled soon.  barbara

marie, not sure about the dose, but i'm thinking about a tablespoon full, probably.  i think a little goes a long ways with that stuff.  if you need to know for sure i can ask my daughter.  barbara

 

Barbara, I posted the other day about not moving yet and being unsettled. You did respond but you said you were in a " difficult " spot at the time....so u forgot my dear. But that is okay! Something will work out eventually.....I hope soon Thank-you! JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I

> > started

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At

> > first, I

> > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go

> > away & I

> > > > > > > > would

> > > > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired

> > even on

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > 20th.

> > > > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling

> > lousy from

> > > > > > rife

> > > > > > > > or

> > > > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't

> > really

> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence.

> > Anyway,

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 &

> > 10,000) & to

> > > > > > work

> > > > > > > > up to

> > > > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min

> > each & 2

> > > > > > > > min on

> > > > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I

> > can't really

> > > > > > > > tell if

> > > > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I

> > rifed the

> > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > couple

> > > > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my

> > > > > > naturopath

> > > > > > > > says 1

> > > > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq

> > 800, 4328

> > > > > > &

> > > > > > > > 10k at

> > > > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as

> > effective as

> > > > > > > > just

> > > > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists

> > that they

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody

> > has to

> > > > > > find

> > > > > > > > their

> > > > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using

> > these

> > > > > > other

> > > > > > > > lyme

> > > > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Susie

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

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>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Barbara ,

Yes barbara if it odes nto bother you as it is just personnal curiosity ,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:40 PMSubject: Re: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

marie, not sure about the dose, but i'm thinking about a tablespoon full, probably. i think a little goes a long ways with that stuff. if you need to know for sure i can ask my daughter. barbara

Barbara, I posted the other day about not moving yet and being unsettled. You did respond but you said you were in a "difficult" spot at the time....so u forgot my dear. But that is okay! Something will work out eventually.....I hope soon Thank-you! JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I> > started> > > > > > out> > > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At> > first, I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go> > away & I> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired> >

even on> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > 20th.> > > > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling> > lousy from> > > > > > rife> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't> > really> > > > > > tell> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence.> > Anyway,> > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & > > 10,000) & to> > > > > > work> > > > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > >

> 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min> > each & 2> > > > > > > > min on> > > > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I> > can't really> > > > > > > > tell if> > > > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I> > rifed the> > > > > > last> > > > > > > > couple> > > > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my> > > > > > naturopath> > > > > > > > says 1> > > > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq> > 800, 4328> > > > > > & > > > > > > >

> 10k at> > > > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as> > effective as> > > > > > > > just> > > > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists> > that they> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody> > has to> > > > > > find> > > > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using> > these> > > > > > other> > > > > > > > lyme> > > > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > >

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Susie> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

marie, just emailed her.  she is usually slow to respond but will pass it on when she does.  barabara

 

Thank you Barbara ,

 

Yes barbara if it odes nto bother you as it is just personnal curiosity ,

Kindly Marie

 

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:40 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

 

marie, not sure about the dose, but i'm thinking about a tablespoon full, probably.  i think a little goes a long ways with that stuff.  if you need to know for sure i can ask my daughter.  barbara

 

Barbara, I posted the other day about not moving yet and being unsettled. You did respond but you said you were in a " difficult " spot at the time....so u forgot my dear. But that is okay! Something will work out eventually.....I hope soon Thank-you! JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I> > started> > > > > > out> > > > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At> > first, I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go

> > away & I> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired> >

even on> > > > > > the> > > > > > > > 20th.> > > > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling> > lousy from

> > > > > > rife> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't> > really> > > > > > tell

> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence.> > Anyway,> > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 &

> > 10,000) & to> > > > > > work> > > > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > >

> 5 mins on each. So I started doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min> > each & 2> > > > > > > > min on> > > > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I

> > can't really> > > > > > > > tell if> > > > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I> > rifed the> > > > > > last

> > > > > > > > couple> > > > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my> > > > > > naturopath> > > > > > > > says 1

> > > > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq> > 800, 4328> > > > > > & > > > > > > >

> 10k at> > > > > > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as> > effective as> > > > > > > > just> > > > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists

> > that they> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody

> > has to> > > > > > find> > > > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using> > these

> > > > > > other> > > > > > > > lyme> > > > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > >

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Susie> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

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Thank you Barbara,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:48 PMSubject: Re: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

marie, just emailed her. she is usually slow to respond but will pass it on when she does. barabara

Thank you Barbara ,

Yes barbara if it odes nto bother you as it is just personnal curiosity ,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:40 PMSubject: Re: Re: Ot/ moving and constipation

marie, not sure about the dose, but i'm thinking about a tablespoon full, probably. i think a little goes a long ways with that stuff. if you need to know for sure i can ask my daughter. barbara

Barbara, I posted the other day about not moving yet and being unsettled. You did respond but you said you were in a "difficult" spot at the time....so u forgot my dear. But that is okay! Something will work out eventually.....I hope soon Thank-you! JOdie L.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I started out on my EMEM-5D machine using 432 freq. I> > started> > > > > > out> > > > > > > > at> > > > > > > > > > 30 sec on Mar. 5 & worked up to 6 minutes on Mar. 17. At> > first, I> > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > just get a little tired for a couple of days, it would go> > away & I> > > > > > > > would> > > > > > > > > > rife again. But after the 17th session, I was real tired> > even on> > > > >

> the> > > > > > > > 20th.> > > > > > > > > > What is the hardest for me is to know if I am feeling> > lousy from> > > > > > rife> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > just from Lyme. I feel so crappy all the time that I can't> > really> > > > > > tell> > > > > > > > if> > > > > > > > > > it gets worse after I rife or if it is just a coincidence.> > Anyway,> > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > > naturopath said to use all 4 freqs (432,800, 4328 & > > 10,000) & to> > > > > > work> > > > > > > > up to> > > > > > > > > > 5 mins on each. So I started

doing that on Mar.30 at 1 min> > each & 2> > > > > > > > min on> > > > > > > > > > 10K & have worked up to 3 mins each & 4 mins on 10k. I> > can't really> > > > > > > > tell if> > > > > > > > > > I feel worse because I didn't feel good even before I> > rifed the> > > > > > last> > > > > > > > couple> > > > > > > > > > of times. Dan Tracey says to wait 2 weeks to rife, but my> > > > > > naturopath> > > > > > > > says 1> > > > > > > > > > week is good. My question is, is anybody else using freq> > 800, 4328> > > > > > & > > > > > > > > 10k at> > > >

> > > > > > every rife session? I almost feel like they are not as> > effective as> > > > > > > > just> > > > > > > > > > the 432 alone, but the builder & my naturopath insists> > that they> > > > > > are> > > > > > > > all> > > > > > > > > > lyme freq (except 10k) & should be used. I know everybody> > has to> > > > > > find> > > > > > > > their> > > > > > > > > > own best way, but I was just wondering if others are using> > these> > > > > > other> > > > > > > > lyme> > > > > > > > > > freqs in addition to 432. Thanks.> > > > > > > > > > >

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