Guest guest Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, most definitely, an epidemic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not fit the autism dx. When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have encountered: -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune system -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get their kid better -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists to talk about . I am not kidding. I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is better they would listen to me, but they dont. I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. - > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, most definitely, an epidemic! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I just had a thought as I read this.I've seen Larry King do some interviews on autism and he seems very fair in who he interviews and what they say. He seems to present different stories to truly help for better understanding. I wonder if someone(s) from the 'camp' could get on his show? K From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:59 AM Subject: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not fit the autism dx. When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have encountered: -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune system -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get their kid better -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists to talk about . I am not kidding. I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is better they would listen to me, but they dont. I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. - --- In <mailto:%40> , gvizjazz@... wrote: > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, most definitely, an epidemic! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 , Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. Martha On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@...> wrote: > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > fit the autism dx. > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > encountered: > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > system > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > their kid better > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > - > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Martha, My son is 7 and has been with Dr. G for 3.5 years. He is MUCH healthier than he was when we started. He is talking, but expressive language is still a big challenge for him. Six months ago we started private speech and OT and he has made HUGE gains because, IMHO, the therapists at the new place are just 'different'. They are more innovative and somehow more in tune with him than many of the others he has worked with. We have done private ST in the past, and some SLPs are better with him than others. His receptive language is MUCH, MUCH better since being on the protocol, especially in the last 6 months. He still struggles with his peers, although he is well loved by his classmates. I know he notices them (I see him watching them), but he is still 'shy'. He is fortunate to have a twin sister who is his best friend, and they play really well together, but often end up playing what/how he wants because IMHO - he can express himself with what he is comfortable with so the play tends to follow that. He still struggles with communication, so it's still hard for him to have friends (plus, he's so busy with therapies that it makes it difficult to schedule regular playdates). Next fall, he and my husband will participate in a group like Boy Scouts, and I'm hoping that that will really help develop some friendships (for both of them! My husband works all the time!). What I'm saying is that perhaps just because your child's language and social skills are not 100% 'typical' that it does not mean that he is not coming out of autism/illness. You don't mention if you are supplementing the protocol/medical treatment with therapies that are necessary to help your son catch up to his peers. Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Martha Wood Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg , Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. Martha On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > fit the autism dx. > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > encountered: > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > system > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > their kid better > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > - > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I have three boys on Dr. G's protocol. One with Asperger's, one with mild/moderate autism and one with ADHD-type symptoms. My son with autism has been with Dr. G for 18 months. Although we haven't seen a tremendous growth in expressive language, we've seen incredible gains in his overall health. Before Dr. G, he had a neurological condition called cyclical vomiting syndrome, migraines and absence seizures. Four months into the protocol, the cyclical vomiting went away. This was after two years of monthly vomiting episodes along with migraines. He went from 4-5 migraines per month to one and his most recent migraine was two months ago.  I really believe that his body has to heal and repair itself before we see any significant improvement in expressive language. I've heard many parents say that this is the last area where their children improve. I've seen my son's cognition improve along with his receptive language. This past year he learned to read using a phonics program, which I was told would probably not happen.  As Dr. G has told me more than once, he didn't get this way overnight. It took time and it will take time to heal him. We're in it for the long haul.  All the best,  Robyn > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > fit the autism dx. > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > encountered: > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > system > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > their kid better > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > - > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Kristy, Thank you so much for your quick reply. This is an encouragement to me. We have supplemented our son with private speech, OT, and ABA (right now about 15 hours a week) since he was 2 1/2. He also gets music therapy, OT, speech and aba at school. MT and speech are good at school thankfully. We have him lined up with regular playdates at least once a week with typical peers and he has two older brother who are NT. We have also done language classes at the local university and social skills classes. Actually we have overdone the therapies in the past year and are now backing off a bit to give him more down time and time to be a kid. We *are* seeing progress but it is much slower than we anticipated. For example he used to run to his room and hide when friends came over but now he can at least be in the same room although we have to make him stay. He is a smart kid and has such potential if we can just get past the two big ones: language and social. I have dropped everything to help this child and would do so for any of my boys. I just hope and pray this all pays off and we can be one of the success stories. Thanks again for your kind feedback. Martha On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>wrote: > > > Martha, > > My son is 7 and has been with Dr. G for 3.5 years. He is MUCH healthier > than > he was when we started. He is talking, but expressive language is still a > big challenge for him. Six months ago we started private speech and OT and > he has made HUGE gains because, IMHO, the therapists at the new place are > just 'different'. They are more innovative and somehow more in tune with > him > than many of the others he has worked with. We have done private ST in the > past, and some SLPs are better with him than others. > > His receptive language is MUCH, MUCH better since being on the protocol, > especially in the last 6 months. > > He still struggles with his peers, although he is well loved by his > classmates. I know he notices them (I see him watching them), but he is > still 'shy'. He is fortunate to have a twin sister who is his best friend, > and they play really well together, but often end up playing what/how he > wants because IMHO - he can express himself with what he is comfortable > with so the play tends to follow that. He still struggles with > communication, so it's still hard for him to have friends (plus, he's so > busy with therapies that it makes it difficult to schedule regular > playdates). Next fall, he and my husband will participate in a group like > Boy Scouts, and I'm hoping that that will really help develop some > friendships (for both of them! My husband works all the time!). > > What I'm saying is that perhaps just because your child's language and > social skills are not 100% 'typical' that it does not mean that he is not > coming out of autism/illness. > > You don't mention if you are supplementing the protocol/medical treatment > with therapies that are necessary to help your son catch up to his peers. > > Kristy > > From: <%40> [mailto: > <%40>] On Behalf Of Martha > Wood > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:11 AM > <%40> > Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over > a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful > to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx > like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@...<jlhank80%40> > <mailto:jlhank80%40 <jlhank80%2540>> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and > that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put > Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter > is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont > care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs > parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Hi Kristy-I have thought the same thing about trying to get DR. Goldberg on the Larry King show! When he had McCarthy on recently I even emailed them with a question about having another doctor on with a different point of view. I never even heard back from them! I still think we should try to pursue it. I also thought about Oprah Winfrey as she has had shows on autism as well. Gayle Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not fit the autism dx. When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have encountered: -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune system -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get their kid better -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists to talk about . I am not kidding. I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is better they would listen to me, but they dont. I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. - --- In <mailto:%40> , gvizjazz@... wrote: > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, most definitely, an epidemic! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Hi, My son has been on the protocol for the past 13 months. His improvements are nothing short from extraordinary, to the point that his only problems are mild speech delays and very minimum attention deficit, but we are hoping that will get better very soon. 2 1/2 years ago my son had severe autism. We follow the protocol very strictly, but there are a few things we do on top of it. We use Ibuprofen therapy (to reduce inflammation), transdermal glutathione, Low Dose Naltrexone and gamma globulin shots. I strongly believe that the anti-inflammatory drugs are VERY important for our children since they have autoimmune dysfunctions (autoimmune disorders). One of the most important drugs to treat autoimmune disorders are anti-inflammatory drugs, so what our children have is no different. If there is one treatment that has done wonders in my son is the Ibuprofen. Dr. Goldberg has given me a hard time telling me to be careful with it because it can cause stomach bleeding, but I take it very seriously and ALWAYS give it to my son with plenty of food and liquid on his stomach. So far my son hasn't had any problems with it. Autoimmune disorder treatment http://www.faqs.org/health/Sick-V1/Autoimmune-Disorders.html " Treatments differ for each type of autoimmune disorder. However, there is one treatment that is common to many forms of autoimmune disorders. That treatment is the use of drugs to reduce the inflammation, swelling, and pain that accompanies most autoimmune disorders. Inflammation occurs when antibodies attack and irritate tissues. Some common drugs, such as aspirin and ibuprofen (pronounced i-byoo-PRO-fuhn), help reduce inflammation and pain. " The transdermal glutathione is to increase glutathione levels in the body which is VERY important for the immune system and to effectively detoxify the body. Children with autism cannot synthesize glutathione correctly due to leaky guts. The Low Dose Naltrexone is also used to treat autoimmune disorders and it even helps heal the GI tract. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_dose_naltrexone. Dr. Goldberg doesn't approve the Low Dose Naltrexone, but since it is completely safe and it doesn't interact with any of the protocol medication we use it on our son. One more thing that I give Dr. Goldberg very much credit is about noticing that my son is hypogammaglobulinemic (has low IGG levels). He prescribed gamma globulin shots and it has also worked wonderfully in my son's immune system. The latest lab test showed every single parameter in the immune panel in within normal range which it reflects in his behavior and speech improvements. We have been running immune panel lab tests for the past 2+ years when we used to see a DAN doctor and now with Dr. Goldberg and this is the first time that his immune system looks this good. I do not understand why if all these children with autism have immune dysfunction proven by lab tests why people keep saying that it is genetic. People also keep talking about heavy metals, but the metals accumulate because the damaged digestive system (due to inflammation caused by their immune disorders) cannot absorb the substances needed to create glutathione http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione which is what detoxify our bodies. It is so frustrating how much time is being wasted in all these non sense ideas that will not help any child, when there are so many concrete facts and similar problems that can be easily diagnosed in every single child with autism. JR From: knardini@... Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:40:48 -0700 Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg Martha, My son is 7 and has been with Dr. G for 3.5 years. He is MUCH healthier than he was when we started. He is talking, but expressive language is still a big challenge for him. Six months ago we started private speech and OT and he has made HUGE gains because, IMHO, the therapists at the new place are just 'different'. They are more innovative and somehow more in tune with him than many of the others he has worked with. We have done private ST in the past, and some SLPs are better with him than others. His receptive language is MUCH, MUCH better since being on the protocol, especially in the last 6 months. He still struggles with his peers, although he is well loved by his classmates. I know he notices them (I see him watching them), but he is still 'shy'. He is fortunate to have a twin sister who is his best friend, and they play really well together, but often end up playing what/how he wants because IMHO - he can express himself with what he is comfortable with so the play tends to follow that. He still struggles with communication, so it's still hard for him to have friends (plus, he's so busy with therapies that it makes it difficult to schedule regular playdates). Next fall, he and my husband will participate in a group like Boy Scouts, and I'm hoping that that will really help develop some friendships (for both of them! My husband works all the time!). What I'm saying is that perhaps just because your child's language and social skills are not 100% 'typical' that it does not mean that he is not coming out of autism/illness. You don't mention if you are supplementing the protocol/medical treatment with therapies that are necessary to help your son catch up to his peers. Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Martha Wood Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:11 AM Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg , Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. Martha On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > fit the autism dx. > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > encountered: > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > system > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > their kid better > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > - > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 There are two parts to the genetics equation. The DNA (pt 1) and the proteins that protect the DNA (pt 2). The way I understand it, our children's proteins have interacted with the environment to expose the DNA that makes them susceptible to . Google epigenetics and/or Dr. Bruce Lipton. Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:14 AM nids Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg Hi, My son has been on the protocol for the past 13 months. His improvements are nothing short from extraordinary, to the point that his only problems are mild speech delays and very minimum attention deficit, but we are hoping that will get better very soon. 2 1/2 years ago my son had severe autism. We follow the protocol very strictly, but there are a few things we do on top of it. We use Ibuprofen therapy (to reduce inflammation), transdermal glutathione, Low Dose Naltrexone and gamma globulin shots. I strongly believe that the anti-inflammatory drugs are VERY important for our children since they have autoimmune dysfunctions (autoimmune disorders). One of the most important drugs to treat autoimmune disorders are anti-inflammatory drugs, so what our children have is no different. If there is one treatment that has done wonders in my son is the Ibuprofen. Dr. Goldberg has given me a hard time telling me to be careful with it because it can cause stomach bleeding, but I take it very seriously and ALWAYS give it to my son with plenty of food and liquid on his stomach. So far my son hasn't had any problems with it. Autoimmune disorder treatment http://www.faqs.org/health/Sick-V1/Autoimmune-Disorders.html " Treatments differ for each type of autoimmune disorder. However, there is one treatment that is common to many forms of autoimmune disorders. That treatment is the use of drugs to reduce the inflammation, swelling, and pain that accompanies most autoimmune disorders. Inflammation occurs when antibodies attack and irritate tissues. Some common drugs, such as aspirin and ibuprofen (pronounced i-byoo-PRO-fuhn), help reduce inflammation and pain. " The transdermal glutathione is to increase glutathione levels in the body which is VERY important for the immune system and to effectively detoxify the body. Children with autism cannot synthesize glutathione correctly due to leaky guts. The Low Dose Naltrexone is also used to treat autoimmune disorders and it even helps heal the GI tract. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_dose_naltrexone. Dr. Goldberg doesn't approve the Low Dose Naltrexone, but since it is completely safe and it doesn't interact with any of the protocol medication we use it on our son. One more thing that I give Dr. Goldberg very much credit is about noticing that my son is hypogammaglobulinemic (has low IGG levels). He prescribed gamma globulin shots and it has also worked wonderfully in my son's immune system. The latest lab test showed every single parameter in the immune panel in within normal range which it reflects in his behavior and speech improvements. We have been running immune panel lab tests for the past 2+ years when we used to see a DAN doctor and now with Dr. Goldberg and this is the first time that his immune system looks this good. I do not understand why if all these children with autism have immune dysfunction proven by lab tests why people keep saying that it is genetic. People also keep talking about heavy metals, but the metals accumulate because the damaged digestive system (due to inflammation caused by their immune disorders) cannot absorb the substances needed to create glutathione http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione which is what detoxify our bodies. It is so frustrating how much time is being wasted in all these non sense ideas that will not help any child, when there are so many concrete facts and similar problems that can be easily diagnosed in every single child with autism. JR <mailto:%40> From: knardini@... <mailto:knardini%40roadrunner.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:40:48 -0700 Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg Martha, My son is 7 and has been with Dr. G for 3.5 years. He is MUCH healthier than he was when we started. He is talking, but expressive language is still a big challenge for him. Six months ago we started private speech and OT and he has made HUGE gains because, IMHO, the therapists at the new place are just 'different'. They are more innovative and somehow more in tune with him than many of the others he has worked with. We have done private ST in the past, and some SLPs are better with him than others. His receptive language is MUCH, MUCH better since being on the protocol, especially in the last 6 months. He still struggles with his peers, although he is well loved by his classmates. I know he notices them (I see him watching them), but he is still 'shy'. He is fortunate to have a twin sister who is his best friend, and they play really well together, but often end up playing what/how he wants because IMHO - he can express himself with what he is comfortable with so the play tends to follow that. He still struggles with communication, so it's still hard for him to have friends (plus, he's so busy with therapies that it makes it difficult to schedule regular playdates). Next fall, he and my husband will participate in a group like Boy Scouts, and I'm hoping that that will really help develop some friendships (for both of them! My husband works all the time!). What I'm saying is that perhaps just because your child's language and social skills are not 100% 'typical' that it does not mean that he is not coming out of autism/illness. You don't mention if you are supplementing the protocol/medical treatment with therapies that are necessary to help your son catch up to his peers. Kristy From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of Martha Wood Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:11 AM <mailto:%40> Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg , Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. Martha On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... <mailto:jlhank80%40> <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. My > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. Before > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > fit the autism dx. > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > encountered: > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they believe > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by Mccarthy > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > system > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > their kid better > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on lists > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > - > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do whatever > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that is, > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I'm new to the list I first heard of Dr.G through a videoconference that was posted in one of the other lists I follow. The whole concept of definitely rings true. We have been in this journey with my son who is 3yo, and has mild PDD but severe dyspraxia (non-verbal, poor balance, poor coordination, little body awareness, etc). Having suffered myself from migraines for many years I can recognize the symptoms of brain inflamation in my son. I also know that his inmune system is in overdrive as we have confirmed enterocolitis with scopes and biopsias (this is an abherrant inmune reaction that compromises the gut, particularly the small vowels where proper digestion takes place). My first reaction after knowing about this perspective was to call Dr.Gs office. They told he doesn't colaborate with other doctors (we are in NY so I was trying to see if there was someone else we could go closer to home ... off couse we are swamped with medical bills like everybody else). Still, I was willing to consider taking the trip, however I'm still waiting to get the intake package and this was like 4 weeks ago! So far, the farther I went was to get a prescription from our dan dr to do the viral panel (HHV6, etc) and should have results in a few days. We have witnessed a significant regression in the past two months (nothing to be attributed to diet or digestive flora), mostly in cognitive skills, receptive language, and fine motor. We are definitely looking for different perspectives. Any suggestion? Thanks, B 2009/6/24 Kristy Nardini <knardini@...> > > > There are two parts to the genetics equation. The DNA (pt 1) and the > proteins that protect the DNA (pt 2). The way I understand it, our > children's proteins have interacted with the environment to expose the DNA > that makes them susceptible to . Google epigenetics and/or Dr. Bruce > Lipton. > > Kristy > > From: <%40> [mailto: > <%40>] On Behalf Of > > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:14 AM > nids <nids%40> > Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > Hi, > My son has been on the protocol for the past 13 months. His > improvements are nothing short from extraordinary, to the point that his > only problems are mild speech delays and very minimum attention deficit, > but > we are hoping that will get better very soon. 2 1/2 years ago my son had > severe autism. > > We follow the protocol very strictly, but there are a few things we do > on top of it. We use Ibuprofen therapy (to reduce inflammation), > transdermal > glutathione, Low Dose Naltrexone and gamma globulin shots. I strongly > believe that the anti-inflammatory drugs are VERY important for our > children > since they have autoimmune dysfunctions (autoimmune disorders). One of the > most important drugs to treat autoimmune disorders are anti-inflammatory > drugs, so what our children have is no different. If there is one treatment > that has done wonders in my son is the Ibuprofen. Dr. Goldberg has given me > a hard time telling me to be careful with it because it can cause stomach > bleeding, but I take it very seriously and ALWAYS give it to my son with > plenty of food and liquid on his stomach. So far my son hasn't had any > problems with it. > > Autoimmune disorder treatment > http://www.faqs.org/health/Sick-V1/Autoimmune-Disorders.html > " Treatments differ for each type of autoimmune disorder. However, there is > one treatment that is common to many forms of autoimmune disorders. That > treatment is the use of drugs to reduce the inflammation, swelling, and > pain > that accompanies most autoimmune disorders. Inflammation occurs when > antibodies attack and irritate tissues. Some common drugs, such as aspirin > and ibuprofen (pronounced i-byoo-PRO-fuhn), help reduce inflammation and > pain. " > > The transdermal glutathione is to increase glutathione levels in the body > which is VERY important for the immune system and to effectively detoxify > the body. Children with autism cannot synthesize glutathione correctly due > to leaky guts. The Low Dose Naltrexone is also used to treat autoimmune > disorders and it even helps heal the GI tract. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_dose_naltrexone. Dr. Goldberg doesn't > approve the Low Dose Naltrexone, but since it is completely safe and it > doesn't interact with any of the protocol medication we use it on our > son. > > One more thing that I give Dr. Goldberg very much credit is about noticing > that my son is hypogammaglobulinemic (has low IGG levels). He prescribed > gamma globulin shots and it has also worked wonderfully in my son's immune > system. The latest lab test showed every single parameter in the immune > panel in within normal range which it reflects in his behavior and speech > improvements. We have been running immune panel lab tests for the past 2+ > years when we used to see a DAN doctor and now with Dr. Goldberg and this > is > the first time that his immune system looks this good. > > I do not understand why if all these children with autism have immune > dysfunction proven by lab tests why people keep saying that it is genetic. > People also keep talking about heavy metals, but the metals accumulate > because the damaged digestive system (due to inflammation caused by their > immune disorders) cannot absorb the substances needed to create glutathione > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione which is what detoxify our > bodies. > > It is so frustrating how much time is being wasted in all these non sense > ideas that will not help any child, when there are so many concrete facts > and similar problems that can be easily diagnosed in every single child > with > autism. > > JR > > <%40> <mailto: > %40 <%2540>> > From: knardini@... <knardini%40roadrunner.com> <mailto: > knardini%40roadrunner.com <knardini%2540roadrunner.com>> > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:40:48 -0700 > Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > Martha, > > My son is 7 and has been with Dr. G for 3.5 years. He is MUCH healthier > than > he was when we started. He is talking, but expressive language is still a > big challenge for him. Six months ago we started private speech and OT and > he has made HUGE gains because, IMHO, the therapists at the new place are > just 'different'. They are more innovative and somehow more in tune with > him > than many of the others he has worked with. We have done private ST in the > past, and some SLPs are better with him than others. > > His receptive language is MUCH, MUCH better since being on the protocol, > especially in the last 6 months. > > He still struggles with his peers, although he is well loved by his > classmates. I know he notices them (I see him watching them), but he is > still 'shy'. He is fortunate to have a twin sister who is his best friend, > and they play really well together, but often end up playing what/how he > wants because IMHO - he can express himself with what he is comfortable > with so the play tends to follow that. He still struggles with > communication, so it's still hard for him to have friends (plus, he's so > busy with therapies that it makes it difficult to schedule regular > playdates). Next fall, he and my husband will participate in a group like > Boy Scouts, and I'm hoping that that will really help develop some > friendships (for both of them! My husband works all the time!). > > What I'm saying is that perhaps just because your child's language and > social skills are not 100% 'typical' that it does not mean that he is not > coming out of autism/illness. > > You don't mention if you are supplementing the protocol/medical treatment > with therapies that are necessary to help your son catch up to his peers. > > Kristy > > From: <%40> <mailto: > %40 <%2540>> > [mailto: <%40> <mailto: > %40 <%2540>> ] On Behalf Of > Martha > Wood > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:11 AM > <%40> <mailto: > %40 <%2540>> > Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over > a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful > to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx > like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@...<jlhank80%40> > <mailto:jlhank80%40 <jlhank80%2540>> > <mailto:jlhank80%40 <jlhank80%2540>> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and > that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put > Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter > is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont > care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs > parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 , Thanks for sharing about your son's progress. I am curious about the Ibuprofen therapy...do you know where your son's inflammation is coming from? While I agree it helps, it seems like it would be a temporary solution. What are your plans long term? Also, what does the naltrexone do? I know it is an opiate antagonist (inhibitor). How does this help? Immune modulation? - been on the protocol for the past 13 months. His improvements are nothing short from extraordinary, to the point that his only problems are mild speech delays and very minimum attention deficit, but we are hoping that will get better very soon. 2 1/2 years ago my son had severe autism. > > We follow the protocol very strictly, but there are a few things we do on top of it. We use Ibuprofen therapy (to reduce inflammation), transdermal glutathione, Low Dose Naltrexone and gamma globulin shots. I strongly believe that the anti-inflammatory drugs are VERY important for our children since they have autoimmune dysfunctions (autoimmune disorders). One of the most important drugs to treat autoimmune disorders are anti-inflammatory drugs, so what our children have is no different. If there is one treatment that has done wonders in my son is the Ibuprofen. Dr. Goldberg has given me a hard time telling me to be careful with it because it can cause stomach bleeding, but I take it very seriously and ALWAYS give it to my son with plenty of food and liquid on his stomach. So far my son hasn't had any problems with it. > > Autoimmune disorder treatment > http://www.faqs.org/health/Sick-V1/Autoimmune-Disorders.html > " Treatments differ for each type of autoimmune disorder. However, there is one treatment that is common to many forms of autoimmune disorders. That treatment is the use of drugs to reduce the inflammation, swelling, and pain that accompanies most autoimmune disorders. Inflammation occurs when antibodies attack and irritate tissues. Some common drugs, such as aspirin and ibuprofen (pronounced i-byoo-PRO-fuhn), help reduce inflammation and pain. " > > > The transdermal glutathione is to increase glutathione levels in the body which is VERY important for the immune system and to effectively detoxify the body. Children with autism cannot synthesize glutathione correctly due to leaky guts. The Low Dose Naltrexone is also used to treat autoimmune disorders and it even helps heal the GI tract. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_dose_naltrexone. Dr. Goldberg doesn't approve the Low Dose Naltrexone, but since it is completely safe and it doesn't interact with any of the protocol medication we use it on our son. > > One more thing that I give Dr. Goldberg very much credit is about noticing that my son is hypogammaglobulinemic (has low IGG levels). He prescribed gamma globulin shots and it has also worked wonderfully in my son's immune system. The latest lab test showed every single parameter in the immune panel in within normal range which it reflects in his behavior and speech improvements. We have been running immune panel lab tests for the past 2+ years when we used to see a DAN doctor and now with Dr. Goldberg and this is the first time that his immune system looks this good. > > I do not understand why if all these children with autism have immune dysfunction proven by lab tests why people keep saying that it is genetic. People also keep talking about heavy metals, but the metals accumulate because the damaged digestive system (due to inflammation caused by their immune disorders) cannot absorb the substances needed to create glutathione http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione which is what detoxify our bodies. > > > It is so frustrating how much time is being wasted in all these non sense ideas that will not help any child, when there are so many concrete facts and similar problems that can be easily diagnosed in every single child with autism. > > JR > > > > > > From: knardini@... > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:40:48 -0700 > Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > > > > > > Martha, > > My son is 7 and has been with Dr. G for 3.5 years. He is MUCH healthier than > he was when we started. He is talking, but expressive language is still a > big challenge for him. Six months ago we started private speech and OT and > he has made HUGE gains because, IMHO, the therapists at the new place are > just 'different'. They are more innovative and somehow more in tune with him > than many of the others he has worked with. We have done private ST in the > past, and some SLPs are better with him than others. > > His receptive language is MUCH, MUCH better since being on the protocol, > especially in the last 6 months. > > He still struggles with his peers, although he is well loved by his > classmates. I know he notices them (I see him watching them), but he is > still 'shy'. He is fortunate to have a twin sister who is his best friend, > and they play really well together, but often end up playing what/how he > wants because IMHO - he can express himself with what he is comfortable > with so the play tends to follow that. He still struggles with > communication, so it's still hard for him to have friends (plus, he's so > busy with therapies that it makes it difficult to schedule regular > playdates). Next fall, he and my husband will participate in a group like > Boy Scouts, and I'm hoping that that will really help develop some > friendships (for both of them! My husband works all the time!). > > What I'm saying is that perhaps just because your child's language and > social skills are not 100% 'typical' that it does not mean that he is not > coming out of autism/illness. > > You don't mention if you are supplementing the protocol/medical treatment > with therapies that are necessary to help your son catch up to his peers. > > Kristy > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Martha > Wood > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:11 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... > <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 , The inflammation is coming from an autoimmune reaction to the MMR vaccine. The MMR vaccine is contraindicated to hypogammaglobulinemic people just like my son due to risks of immune system damage and viral encephalitis. We are following the protocol and also doing immunoglobulin replacement therapy (using GamaSTAN). All these is helping regulate the immune system, which actually is looking almost normal based on the latest immune panel. The Ibuprofen therapy in my opinion has helped accelerate the immune system recovery process. I agree that if you only do the Ibuprofen therapy by itself without addressing any viral infections and immune system dysfunction it would be a temporary solution and probably it wouldn't make a difference. You can find detailed information about LDN in the website below. http://www.low dose naltrexone.org/ JR From: jlhank80@... Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:04:50 +0000 Subject: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg , Thanks for sharing about your son's progress. I am curious about the Ibuprofen therapy...do you know where your son's inflammation is coming from? While I agree it helps, it seems like it would be a temporary solution. What are your plans long term? Also, what does the naltrexone do? I know it is an opiate antagonist (inhibitor). How does this help? Immune modulation? - been on the protocol for the past 13 months. His improvements are nothing short from extraordinary, to the point that his only problems are mild speech delays and very minimum attention deficit, but we are hoping that will get better very soon. 2 1/2 years ago my son had severe autism. > > We follow the protocol very strictly, but there are a few things we do on top of it. We use Ibuprofen therapy (to reduce inflammation), transdermal glutathione, Low Dose Naltrexone and gamma globulin shots. I strongly believe that the anti-inflammatory drugs are VERY important for our children since they have autoimmune dysfunctions (autoimmune disorders). One of the most important drugs to treat autoimmune disorders are anti-inflammatory drugs, so what our children have is no different. If there is one treatment that has done wonders in my son is the Ibuprofen. Dr. Goldberg has given me a hard time telling me to be careful with it because it can cause stomach bleeding, but I take it very seriously and ALWAYS give it to my son with plenty of food and liquid on his stomach. So far my son hasn't had any problems with it. > > Autoimmune disorder treatment > http://www.faqs.org/health/Sick-V1/Autoimmune-Disorders.html > " Treatments differ for each type of autoimmune disorder. However, there is one treatment that is common to many forms of autoimmune disorders. That treatment is the use of drugs to reduce the inflammation, swelling, and pain that accompanies most autoimmune disorders. Inflammation occurs when antibodies attack and irritate tissues. Some common drugs, such as aspirin and ibuprofen (pronounced i-byoo-PRO-fuhn), help reduce inflammation and pain. " > > > The transdermal glutathione is to increase glutathione levels in the body which is VERY important for the immune system and to effectively detoxify the body. Children with autism cannot synthesize glutathione correctly due to leaky guts. The Low Dose Naltrexone is also used to treat autoimmune disorders and it even helps heal the GI tract. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_dose_naltrexone. Dr. Goldberg doesn't approve the Low Dose Naltrexone, but since it is completely safe and it doesn't interact with any of the protocol medication we use it on our son. > > One more thing that I give Dr. Goldberg very much credit is about noticing that my son is hypogammaglobulinemic (has low IGG levels). He prescribed gamma globulin shots and it has also worked wonderfully in my son's immune system. The latest lab test showed every single parameter in the immune panel in within normal range which it reflects in his behavior and speech improvements. We have been running immune panel lab tests for the past 2+ years when we used to see a DAN doctor and now with Dr. Goldberg and this is the first time that his immune system looks this good. > > I do not understand why if all these children with autism have immune dysfunction proven by lab tests why people keep saying that it is genetic. People also keep talking about heavy metals, but the metals accumulate because the damaged digestive system (due to inflammation caused by their immune disorders) cannot absorb the substances needed to create glutathione http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione which is what detoxify our bodies. > > > It is so frustrating how much time is being wasted in all these non sense ideas that will not help any child, when there are so many concrete facts and similar problems that can be easily diagnosed in every single child with autism. > > JR > > > > > > From: knardini@... > Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:40:48 -0700 > Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > > > > > > Martha, > > My son is 7 and has been with Dr. G for 3.5 years. He is MUCH healthier than > he was when we started. He is talking, but expressive language is still a > big challenge for him. Six months ago we started private speech and OT and > he has made HUGE gains because, IMHO, the therapists at the new place are > just 'different'. They are more innovative and somehow more in tune with him > than many of the others he has worked with. We have done private ST in the > past, and some SLPs are better with him than others. > > His receptive language is MUCH, MUCH better since being on the protocol, > especially in the last 6 months. > > He still struggles with his peers, although he is well loved by his > classmates. I know he notices them (I see him watching them), but he is > still 'shy'. He is fortunate to have a twin sister who is his best friend, > and they play really well together, but often end up playing what/how he > wants because IMHO - he can express himself with what he is comfortable > with so the play tends to follow that. He still struggles with > communication, so it's still hard for him to have friends (plus, he's so > busy with therapies that it makes it difficult to schedule regular > playdates). Next fall, he and my husband will participate in a group like > Boy Scouts, and I'm hoping that that will really help develop some > friendships (for both of them! My husband works all the time!). > > What I'm saying is that perhaps just because your child's language and > social skills are not 100% 'typical' that it does not mean that he is not > coming out of autism/illness. > > You don't mention if you are supplementing the protocol/medical treatment > with therapies that are necessary to help your son catch up to his peers. > > Kristy > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Martha > Wood > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:11 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... > <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 -who is prescribing immunoglobulin-gamastan therapy? We have never tried this. Is this through a DAN doctor? How is it administered? Intravenously or shots? Did you notice a big difference right away with it? Any side effects? My son is using imunovir and we are waiting for the first blood work results to see if it's helping at all. Thanks! Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... > <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Thanks for sharing, that makes sense. My daughter didn't get the MMR, we stopped her vaccinations at 6 months because we thought we would lose her if she had another. My daughter is also a kid, but she has a very overreactive immune system. I did some reading about LDN and I am not really comfortable with it, but I am glad it is helping your son. - > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > > whatever > > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > > is, > > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dr G has my son on these injections, once every 3 weeks. Kristy Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... > <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Same here. JR From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kristy Nardini Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg Dr G has my son on these injections, once every 3 weeks. Kristy Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... > <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Hi -How old is your son? I just reread Kristi's former email and the shots are given once every three weeks. Are you doing the same dosage? Do you see great improvement or only slight? Thanks for your input! Gayle Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg > > > , > Do you mind my asking how old your daughter is? My son is 4 1/2 and is what > I would call higher moderate but not mild and we have been with Dr. G over a > year. We are so discouraged because he is not talking spontaneously and has > no interest in his peers and we have done everything we can think of to > facilitate both areas. We are not giving up on Dr. G but it is so helpful to > hear success stories to affirm that we are on the right track. > I too encourage every one about the NIDs protocol and even got three > families to fly cross country to give it a try. They have all given up on > Dr. G by the way . But since our son is not coming out of the autism dx like > we had hoped it is hard to convince folks. > Martha > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM, <jlhank80@... > <mailto:jlhank80%40> > wrote: > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Ibuprofen is great for my son as well, but could you please describe the ibuprofen therapy so I can discuss it with my MD? thanks a lot! > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 I pulse the Ibuprofen therapy, 10 days on and 20 days off. I calculate the dose based on what is recommended for fever and pain. For example, if your child weights 36-47lbs or if he is 4-5 years old he would have to take 7.5ml or 150ml of Ibuprofen for fever or pain. Now, for inflammation twice the amount that is recommended for fever and pain is needed. Which for a child that weights 36-47lbs or that is 4-5 years old it would be 300ml. Now.. 300ml of Children's Motrin is actually 3 syringes of the medication. Now, you would have to give this medication 3 times per day (breakfast, lunch and at dinner), which it would be 9 syringes per day. We tried that at first and it was too painful for me and my wife to give this much medication to my son on top of the other medications prescribed by Dr. Goldberg and also caused diarrhea. What I did was to practically beg my son's pediatrician (not Dr. Goldberg) and explained why my son needed it and he gave me a prescription for compounded Ibuprofen that is more concentrated than Children's Motrin. Now instead of having to give my son 3 syringes for 300ml I only have to give him 1 syringe. It is so much easier this way and my son didn't develop any more diarrhea. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to give Ibuprofen with plenty of food in the stomach and you need to make sure that you keep your child well hydrated while he/she is taking the Ibuprofen. We have been EXTREMELY careful and my son has not experienced any side effects in the last year and the gains have been huge in every round. Children's Motrin dosage directions from the Motrin website. http://www.motrin.com/page.jhtml?id=/motrin/products/1_2_1.inc <http://www.motrin.com/page.jhtml?id=/motrin/products/1_2_1.inc & sec=directio ns> & sec=directions If you start the Ibuprofen therapy and notice that your child develops any stomach discomfort or pain which it could happen if you child has a leaky gut or food allergies, stop the medication and try again in a month at a lower dose. I would also recommend giving large dose probiotics which will help protect the stomach. Please be careful, this medication is great, but needs to be used VERY responsibly. Thanks, JR From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Fernanda Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:25 PM Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg Ibuprofen is great for my son as well, but could you please describe the ibuprofen therapy so I can discuss it with my MD? thanks a lot! > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I have two 'cautions' on this (not that it's my place at all to caution on this): my son is allergic to ibuprofen, which is not common, but you might want to be aware that some kids are. He looked like he had been beaten by a chain from head to toe after a dose of ibuprofen and it was quite scary because he also does not do well with Benadryl (it was actually making things worse) and had to be treated with steroids in the emergency room. Second, my friend used quite a bit of ibuprofen following a surgery and had to have part of her stomach removed from damage caused by the ibuprofen. recommends plenty of food and water and he is right, it is very important so the stomach and liver are not damaged. Otherwise, I know nothing about this therapy. Kristy From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: RE: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg I pulse the Ibuprofen therapy, 10 days on and 20 days off. I calculate the dose based on what is recommended for fever and pain. For example, if your child weights 36-47lbs or if he is 4-5 years old he would have to take 7.5ml or 150ml of Ibuprofen for fever or pain. Now, for inflammation twice the amount that is recommended for fever and pain is needed. Which for a child that weights 36-47lbs or that is 4-5 years old it would be 300ml. Now.. 300ml of Children's Motrin is actually 3 syringes of the medication. Now, you would have to give this medication 3 times per day (breakfast, lunch and at dinner), which it would be 9 syringes per day. We tried that at first and it was too painful for me and my wife to give this much medication to my son on top of the other medications prescribed by Dr. Goldberg and also caused diarrhea. What I did was to practically beg my son's pediatrician (not Dr. Goldberg) and explained why my son needed it and he gave me a prescription for compounded Ibuprofen that is more concentrated than Children's Motrin. Now instead of having to give my son 3 syringes for 300ml I only have to give him 1 syringe. It is so much easier this way and my son didn't develop any more diarrhea. IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to give Ibuprofen with plenty of food in the stomach and you need to make sure that you keep your child well hydrated while he/she is taking the Ibuprofen. We have been EXTREMELY careful and my son has not experienced any side effects in the last year and the gains have been huge in every round. Children's Motrin dosage directions from the Motrin website. http://www.motrin.com/page.jhtml?id=/motrin/products/1_2_1.inc <http://www.motrin.com/page.jhtml?id=/motrin/products/1_2_1.inc <http://www.motrin.com/page.jhtml?id=/motrin/products/1_2_1.inc & sec=directio > & sec=directio ns> & sec=directions If you start the Ibuprofen therapy and notice that your child develops any stomach discomfort or pain which it could happen if you child has a leaky gut or food allergies, stop the medication and try again in a month at a lower dose. I would also recommend giving large dose probiotics which will help protect the stomach. Please be careful, this medication is great, but needs to be used VERY responsibly. Thanks, JR From: <mailto:%40> [mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of Fernanda Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:25 PM <mailto:%40> Subject: Re: Re: efforts on behalf of Dr. Goldberg Ibuprofen is great for my son as well, but could you please describe the ibuprofen therapy so I can discuss it with my MD? thanks a lot! > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 I think there is another doctor in NY. I would google and see what it pulls. I know there is a doctor in TX as well. We were on the DAN! protocol for a year and a half and have now been with Goldberg for almost 2 years and I will tell you that we have seen more gains and a much healthier child since being on the protocol. I have frustrations of wanting to use some of the DAN! in conjunction with though and G strongly discourages this. There will be many months where you feel like you are spinning your wheels just like DAN! Good Luck! > > > > > > > I am so glad someone brought this up, I have wanted to for sometime now.. > My > > daughter is not a patient of Dr. G but a pt. of Dr and the NNY > > clinic. But my daughter appears to be recovering from autism, but still > > delayed. She no longer stims, plays with others, doesnt tantrum, etc. > Before > > less than a year ago she was moderately autistic. Today she does not > > fit the autism dx. > > > > When I tell people about (and trust me I do ALL of the time) and > that > > autism is really a disease process in our kids,this is what I have > > encountered: > > -Parents dont believe that its right to treat autism this way, they > believe > > in " neurodiversity " and autism is not a disease, its genetic. > > -they are so distrustful of the medical community so they wont see a dr > > without the name DAN stamped on them or they are endorsed by > Mccarthy > > -they believe its heavy metals/and or metabolic origin and not the immune > > system > > -or they say " thats nice " and they dont want to do what it takes to get > > their kid better > > -I have also had people be SO disrespectful and arguementative and put > Dr. > > G down because of rumors they had heard. one person even accused me of > > " spying " and lying about my daughter and that Dr. G " plants " people on > lists > > to talk about . I am not kidding. > > > > I am SO discouraged. I want kids to get better but my efforts are > > fruitless. I thought if people saw with their own eyes that my daughter > is > > better they would listen to me, but they dont. > > > > I would love to hear from others what they have done. I figure I dont > care > > who says wait about . I got my daughter back!!!!! > > And even if I help one person all that persecution is worth it. > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the > > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs > parent > > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be > > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do > whatever > > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness that > is, > > most definitely, an epidemic! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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