Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 I rarely feel the need to comment on articles but this one just disturbs me. No amount of research out there is going to change my mind or the mind of the thousands of parents who first hand have noticed the difference when making dietary interventions with their kids. I have two boys. Both had chronic very light and loose coloured stools start around age 2. Both have Aspergers. Both stimmed incessantly. Both stopped stimming after they went on a gluten free casein free diet and both had their bowel movements clear up significantly. They still have Aspergers. They still have issues. Not all kids respond to diet and / or other interventions. Not all kids have the GI problems / disorders. But a significant portion clearly do. The sad thing is, until these big named hospitals and researchers do their homework properly and start believing what parents are saying, we will get no where in finding approved treatments etc. for our children. Autism not linked to GI disorders. Autism not linked to GI disorders. Mayo Clinic researchers have examined the incidence of constipation, diarrhea, abdominal bloating/discomfort, reflux or vomiting, and feeding issues/food selectivity in 124 children with autism and a larger control group of children without autism. Feeding issues and constipation were more common among the autistic children, which the authors concluded might be due to neurobehavioral factors associated with autism, such as need for routine and insistence on sameness in the diet. There was no evidence of increased incidence of malabsorption or inflammation in the digestive tract (as claimed by doctors who provide " biomedical treatments " for autism). No significant associations were found between autism case status and overall incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms or any other gastrointestinal symptom category. Some medications used to treat children with autism also can lead to appetite suppression and constipation. The authors cautioned that children with autism should not be treated indiscriminately with restrictive diets or dietary supplements. [ibrahim SH. Incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms in children with autism: A population-based study. Pediatrics 124:680-686, 2009] http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Question that is begging: Is it the food allergies as a result of immune dysfunction causing the GI disturbances or is there a real GI disease? If taking away the food allergens helps clear the GI problem then perhaps it's more the immune issue than it is a GI disease. R _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of joeandren@... Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Autism not linked to GI disorders I rarely feel the need to comment on articles but this one just disturbs me. No amount of research out there is going to change my mind or the mind of the thousands of parents who first hand have noticed the difference when making dietary interventions with their kids. I have two boys. Both had chronic very light and loose coloured stools start around age 2. Both have Aspergers. Both stimmed incessantly. Both stopped stimming after they went on a gluten free casein free diet and both had their bowel movements clear up significantly. They still have Aspergers. They still have issues. Not all kids respond to diet and / or other interventions. Not all kids have the GI problems / disorders. But a significant portion clearly do. The sad thing is, until these big named hospitals and researchers do their homework properly and start believing what parents are saying, we will get no where in finding approved treatments etc. for our children. Autism not linked to GI disorders. Autism not linked to GI disorders. Mayo Clinic researchers have examined the incidence of constipation, diarrhea, abdominal bloating/discomfort, reflux or vomiting, and feeding issues/food selectivity in 124 children with autism and a larger control group of children without autism. Feeding issues and constipation were more common among the autistic children, which the authors concluded might be due to neurobehavioral factors associated with autism, such as need for routine and insistence on sameness in the diet. There was no evidence of increased incidence of malabsorption or inflammation in the digestive tract (as claimed by doctors who provide " biomedical treatments " for autism). No significant associations were found between autism case status and overall incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms or any other gastrointestinal symptom category. Some medications used to treat children with autism also can lead to appetite suppression and constipation. The authors cautioned that children with autism should not be treated indiscriminately with restrictive diets or dietary supplements. [ibrahim SH. Incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms in children with autism: A population-based study. Pediatrics 124:680-686, 2009] http://pediatrics. <http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680> aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 I truly believe its immune-mediated and not a true GI disorder in our kiddos, but unfortunately, I have had to remove any food that trigger's my daughters immune system right now, which includes wheat and dairy, and other things, but my daughter also started reacting to the foods most arent allergic to, like rice, corn, potato (our favorite gluten substitutes) It seems like the only alternative, which we are working on is rotating the foods and we are also doing an allergy treatment which blocks the bodie's response to offenders, both environmental and food. Next to the Valtrex, this made a HUGE difference in our little girl....and we have no more problems with the bad stools! Hope I didnt confuse anyone! Jen > > Question that is begging: > > > > Is it the food allergies as a result of immune dysfunction causing the GI > disturbances or is there a real GI disease? > > > > If taking away the food allergens helps clear the GI problem then perhaps > it's more the immune issue than it is a GI disease. > > > > > > R > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of > joeandren@... > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Autism not linked to GI disorders > > > > > > I rarely feel the need to comment on articles but this one just disturbs me. > No amount of research out there is going to change my mind or the mind of > the thousands of parents who first hand have noticed the difference when > making dietary interventions with their kids. I have two boys. Both had > chronic very light and loose coloured stools start around age 2. Both have > Aspergers. Both stimmed incessantly. Both stopped stimming after they went > on a gluten free casein free diet and both had their bowel movements clear > up significantly. They still have Aspergers. They still have issues. Not all > kids respond to diet and / or other interventions. Not all kids have the GI > problems / disorders. But a significant portion clearly do. The sad thing > is, until these big named hospitals and researchers do their homework > properly and start believing what parents are saying, we will get no where > in finding approved treatments etc. for our children. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Mayo Clinic researchers have examined the incidence of constipation, > diarrhea, abdominal bloating/discomfort, reflux or vomiting, and > feeding issues/food selectivity in 124 children with autism and a > larger control group of children without autism. Feeding issues and > constipation were more common among the autistic children, which the > authors concluded might be due to neurobehavioral factors associated > with autism, such as need for routine and insistence on sameness in > the diet. There was no evidence of increased incidence of > malabsorption or inflammation in the digestive tract (as claimed by > doctors who provide " biomedical treatments " for autism). No > significant associations were found between autism case status and > overall incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms or any other > gastrointestinal symptom category. Some medications used to treat > children with autism also can lead to appetite suppression and > constipation. The authors cautioned that children with autism should > not be treated indiscriminately with restrictive diets or dietary > supplements. [ibrahim SH. Incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms in > children with autism: A population-based study. Pediatrics > 124:680-686, 2009] > http://pediatrics. > <http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680> > aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 -what is the allergy treatment that blocks the bodies immune response to offenders? I have not heard?of it before. Thanks, Gayle Re: Autism not linked to GI disorders > > > > > > I rarely feel the need to comment on articles but this one just disturbs me. > No amount of research out there is going to change my mind or the mind of > the thousands of parents who first hand have noticed the difference when > making dietary interventions with their kids. I have two boys. Both had > chronic very light and loose coloured stools start around age 2. Both have > Aspergers. Both stimmed incessantly. Both stopped stimming after they went > on a gluten free casein free diet and both had their bowel movements clear > up significantly. They still have Aspergers. They still have issues. Not all > kids respond to diet and / or other interventions. Not all kids have the GI > problems / disorders. But a significant portion clearly do. The sad thing > is, until these big named hospitals and researchers do their homework > properly and start believing what parents are saying, we will get no where > in finding approved treatments etc. for our children. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Mayo Clinic researchers have examined the incidence of constipation, > diarrhea, abdominal bloating/discomfort, reflux or vomiting, and > feeding issues/food selectivity in 124 children with autism and a > larger control group of children without autism. Feeding issues and > constipation were more common among the autistic children, which the > authors concluded might be due to neurobehavioral factors associated > with autism, such as need for routine and insistence on sameness in > the diet. There was no evidence of increased incidence of > malabsorption or inflammation in the digestive tract (as claimed by > doctors who provide " biomedical treatments " for autism). No > significant associations were found between autism case status and > overall incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms or any other > gastrointestinal symptom category. Some medications used to treat > children with autism also can lead to appetite suppression and > constipation. The authors cautioned that children with autism should > not be treated indiscriminately with restrictive diets or dietary > supplements. [ibrahim SH. Incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms in > children with autism: A population-based study. Pediatrics > 124:680-686, 2009] > http://pediatrics. > <http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680> > aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I have had my kids scoped--endoscopy and colonoscopy--due to chronic vomiting. He had a completely clear digestive tract--a little irritation from the prep, but all biopsies came out clean.  I, too, believe it is an immune response with offending foods serving as the trigger. The diet went a long way to helping my three boys, in particular my son Noah who had cyclical vomiting syndrome. While he was gluten and casein free, he developed the cyclical vomiting. Four months into the protocol, it stopped. After two years of vomiting for three or four days every 3 to 4 weeks.  IMHO, the immune system is the key here and this is where medical research should be going.  All the best,  Robyn From: <jlhank80@...> Subject: Re: Autism not linked to GI disorders Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 5:39 PM  I truly believe its immune-mediated and not a true GI disorder in our kiddos, but unfortunately, I have had to remove any food that trigger's my daughters immune system right now, which includes wheat and dairy, and other things, but my daughter also started reacting to the foods most arent allergic to, like rice, corn, potato (our favorite gluten substitutes) It seems like the only alternative, which we are working on is rotating the foods and we are also doing an allergy treatment which blocks the bodie's response to offenders, both environmental and food. Next to the Valtrex, this made a HUGE difference in our little girl....and we have no more problems with the bad stools! Hope I didnt confuse anyone! Jen > > Question that is begging: > > > > Is it the food allergies as a result of immune dysfunction causing the GI > disturbances or is there a real GI disease? > > > > If taking away the food allergens helps clear the GI problem then perhaps > it's more the immune issue than it is a GI disease. > > > > > > R > > _____ > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of > joeandren@.. . > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:03 PM > groups (DOT) com > Subject: Re: Autism not linked to GI disorders > > > > > > I rarely feel the need to comment on articles but this one just disturbs me. > No amount of research out there is going to change my mind or the mind of > the thousands of parents who first hand have noticed the difference when > making dietary interventions with their kids. I have two boys. Both had > chronic very light and loose coloured stools start around age 2. Both have > Aspergers. Both stimmed incessantly. Both stopped stimming after they went > on a gluten free casein free diet and both had their bowel movements clear > up significantly. They still have Aspergers. They still have issues. Not all > kids respond to diet and / or other interventions. Not all kids have the GI > problems / disorders. But a significant portion clearly do. The sad thing > is, until these big named hospitals and researchers do their homework > properly and start believing what parents are saying, we will get no where > in finding approved treatments etc. for our children. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Mayo Clinic researchers have examined the incidence of constipation, > diarrhea, abdominal bloating/discomfort , reflux or vomiting, and > feeding issues/food selectivity in 124 children with autism and a > larger control group of children without autism. Feeding issues and > constipation were more common among the autistic children, which the > authors concluded might be due to neurobehavioral factors associated > with autism, such as need for routine and insistence on sameness in > the diet. There was no evidence of increased incidence of > malabsorption or inflammation in the digestive tract (as claimed by > doctors who provide " biomedical treatments " for autism). No > significant associations were found between autism case status and > overall incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms or any other > gastrointestinal symptom category. Some medications used to treat > children with autism also can lead to appetite suppression and > constipation. The authors cautioned that children with autism should > not be treated indiscriminately with restrictive diets or dietary > supplements. [ibrahim SH. Incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms in > children with autism: A population-based study. Pediatrics > 124:680-686, 2009] > http://pediatrics. > <http://pediatrics. aappublications. org/cgi/content/ abstract/ 124/2/680> > aappublications. org/cgi/content/ abstract/ 124/2/680 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Anyway, we have to remove the triggers (diet), control, viruses, yeast and try to calm dowm the immune system. So the diet is included in the list.... > > Question that is begging: > > > > Is it the food allergies as a result of immune dysfunction causing the GI > disturbances or is there a real GI disease? > > > > If taking away the food allergens helps clear the GI problem then perhaps > it's more the immune issue than it is a GI disease. > > > > > > R > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of > joeandren@... > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 2:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Autism not linked to GI disorders > > > > > > I rarely feel the need to comment on articles but this one just disturbs me. > No amount of research out there is going to change my mind or the mind of > the thousands of parents who first hand have noticed the difference when > making dietary interventions with their kids. I have two boys. Both had > chronic very light and loose coloured stools start around age 2. Both have > Aspergers. Both stimmed incessantly. Both stopped stimming after they went > on a gluten free casein free diet and both had their bowel movements clear > up significantly. They still have Aspergers. They still have issues. Not all > kids respond to diet and / or other interventions. Not all kids have the GI > problems / disorders. But a significant portion clearly do. The sad thing > is, until these big named hospitals and researchers do their homework > properly and start believing what parents are saying, we will get no where > in finding approved treatments etc. for our children. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Autism not linked to GI disorders. > > Mayo Clinic researchers have examined the incidence of constipation, > diarrhea, abdominal bloating/discomfort, reflux or vomiting, and > feeding issues/food selectivity in 124 children with autism and a > larger control group of children without autism. Feeding issues and > constipation were more common among the autistic children, which the > authors concluded might be due to neurobehavioral factors associated > with autism, such as need for routine and insistence on sameness in > the diet. There was no evidence of increased incidence of > malabsorption or inflammation in the digestive tract (as claimed by > doctors who provide " biomedical treatments " for autism). No > significant associations were found between autism case status and > overall incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms or any other > gastrointestinal symptom category. Some medications used to treat > children with autism also can lead to appetite suppression and > constipation. The authors cautioned that children with autism should > not be treated indiscriminately with restrictive diets or dietary > supplements. [ibrahim SH. Incidence of gastrointestinal symptoms in > children with autism: A population-based study. Pediatrics > 124:680-686, 2009] > http://pediatrics. > <http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680> > aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/124/2/680 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 The abnormal biochemistry can occur in any part of the body. I think we need to focus on what is actually occurring rather than the specific system it is in. E. on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Are you eluding to the NO/OONO, Mrs. on??? - > > The abnormal biochemistry can occur in any part of the body. I think we > need to focus on what is actually occurring rather than the specific system it > is in. > E. on > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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