Re: Digest Number 4037

July 2, 2009

NO. NO. NO. TO TENEX. When I took my son to Dr. Goldberg he wanted to place

my son who was three on this medicine. My son never needed it, and we

checked through the pediatrician and beh. pediatrician and it was not

necessary. TENEX is not even approved by the FDA to be given to children, it

is

just commonly done by some psych's in the field. Read Below:

Tenex is used for:

Treating _high blood pressure_ (http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#) . It

may be used alone or with other medicines. It may also be used for other

conditions as determined by your doctor.

Tenex is an alpha agonist. It works by relaxing (dilating) blood vessels

and decreasing heart rate, which lowers blood pressure.

Do NOT use Tenex if:

* you are allergic to any ingredient in Tenex

Contact your doctor or _health care provider_

(http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#) right away if any of these apply to

you.

Before using Tenex :

Some medical conditions may interact with Tenex . Tell your doctor or

pharmacist if you have any medical conditions, especially if any of the

following apply to you:

* if you are pregnant, planning to become pregnant, or are

_breast-feeding_ (http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#)

* if you are taking any prescription or nonprescription medicine,

herbal preparation, or dietary supplement

* if you _have allergies_ (http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#) to

medicines, foods, or other substances

* if you have liver or kidney problems, or the blood disorder

porphyria

* if you have blood vessel disease affecting the brain or severe

_heart disease_ (http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#) , or have had a stroke

or a recent heart attack

* if you are scheduled for surgery

Some MEDICINES MAY INTERACT with Tenex . Tell your _health care_

(http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#) provider if you are taking any other

medicines, especially any of the following:

* Barbiturates (eg, phenobarbital) or hydantoins (eg, phenytoin)

because they may increase the risk of Tenex 's side effects

* Beta-blockers (eg, _propranolol_

(http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#) ), calcium channel blockers (eg,

verapamil), or digitalis because a

severe decrease in heart rate may occur

* _Tricyclic antidepressants_ (http://www.drugs.com/cdi/tenex.html#)

(eg, amitriptyline) because they may decrease Tenex 's effectiveness and

increase the risk of certain side effects

This may not be a complete list of all interactions that may occur. Ask

your health care provider if Tenex may interact with other medicines that you

take. Check with your health care provider

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(mailto:cheryl.lowrance@...?Subject= Re:%20TENEX) _midian42 _

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Wed Jul 1, 2009 12:32 pm (PDT)

My son was on it for 1.5 years with no results. It made him tired so

we had to lower the morning dose.

Cheryl

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On Jun 30, 2009, at 10:24 PM, vanessagamarrac1 wrote:

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> Hi All:

> Does any one knows about TENEX? what is it used for? side effects?

> Thanks

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Wed Jul 1, 2009 3:07 pm (PDT)

Do you think that as long that the kids get better they will suspend this

medicine?

Thanks for your info.

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> > > Hello all, yes I accidentally posted this note to the site, but the

> > message to all would have been the same. Dr. Goldberg says he needs

> parent

> > support and if anyone?is interested in getting the word out it would be

> > greatly appreciated. I am just another parent who is willing to do

> whatever

> > it takes to help DR. Goldberg finally cure our kids of this illness

that

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> > most definitely, an epidemic!

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With respect from the posts I read I would not say that ''everyone is a

success story'' although some may disagree of course depending on their

interpretation of success but to me success means that my child functions

within

neurotypical boundaries including his physical health! The question you

are asking though regarding lack of success is certainly a fundamental

one.

Dr Goldberg's theory in my humble view accurately describes what

occurred with two of my boys and although I think his treatment approach

is an

innovative one it is still an evolving one and I would like to see more

concrete clinical data to support credibility.

In a message dated 24/06/2009 17:06:31 GMT Standard Time,

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Hi,

From reading the posts, it seems as if almost everyone is a success story.

We've been doing DAN now for many years with little success. I'm

wondering if anyone has not had success with .

Thanks,

Steph

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From: _knardini@roadrunnerknar_ (mailto:knardini@...)

Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:08:11 -0700

Subject: RE: Hot/Cold

We all have hormones of all different kinds that can go 'haywire' or be

out

of balance at any time, no matter our age or sex.

Kristy

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Jerri

Gann

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:54 PM

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Subject: Re: Hot/Cold

Thanks that makes a lot of sense. I took him to the Dr. thinking

he had a urinary tract infection because he has to pee so often but they

tested him and found nothing but I bet he has a low grade infection they

aren't catching. I doubt hormones, he is 8? How do you get a

prescription for Cefzil without a definitive reason? Dr. G? I have been

making him drink a lot of fluids and he seems to be improving a little.

I just had a thought. I should give him cranberry juice. Thanks, Jerri

>

> When my son was in a CFIDS state, his temperature sense was

> dysregulated. Room temp bath water was hot, he was cold much of the

> time, but there was nothing specific causing these. It eventually

> went away.

> Once you've ruled out hormonal problems, I think you're probably

> dealing w/ other dysregulation. I can't remember what it's called,

> but it is common among the CFIDS group and has a name. Is it HPA

> axis? The first thing you have control over is the diet, and making

> sure it's clean during this time could help.

> This all started creeping up after he had stopped the protocol the

> first time. Nine months after stopping antivirals, something just

> seemed a little " off " and I was commenting on this to the

> pediatrician. Within 3 months after that, he was really starting to

> show symptoms including fatigue. He was sick for about 8 months, then

> spiked a 106.9 degree fever, and improved drastically after that for

> several months before starting to feel bad again. Once he regressed

> the second time, I got him back on meds.

> One thing you may be able to do is a trial round of antibiotics (I

> like Cefzil when there isn't something well-defined because it doesn't

> set things off) and see if 3-5 days into them you see a noticable

> improvement. We can have subtle low grade infections that drag us

> down and don't ever really manifest themselves, and this test often

> brings both of my kids out of whatever it is and we never know what

> the problem was.

> HTH-

>

> ____________ __ __

> From: Jerri Gann <_njgann@..._ (mailto:njgann@...)

<mailto:njgann%mailto:nj>

<mailto:njgann%mailto:nj>>

> <_@..._ (mailto: )

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> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:57:19 AM

> Subject: Hot/Cold

>

> I hope someone knows the answer here. My younger son (who is no longer a

> patient of Dr G) has not been feeling well for three weeks now. He has

> not become real sick but he says he can't get a comfortable temp. he is

> either too hot or too cold. He has not had a fever but sometimes feels

> warm. I remember Dr G. talking once about this hot and cold thing and I

> can't remember what he said. My younger son was with Dr G for a short

> while. We caught him quick and did ABA and he is doing great. He is very

> fragile though and when he doesn't feel well things fall apart rather

> quickly. They noticed a huge difference at school and the teacher and

> parents asked me what happened to him. He started the school year off

> great and had troubles at the end. I took him to a Dr. who said he

> thinks he is fighting off a virus, but this is going on for too long. He

> never gets very sick but I know that can be a problem too. Anyway, any

> input would be greatly appreciated. I don't know how we all can survive

> the constant worry. My older son (now 12) is full on into puberty and

> getting mean. He has always been a very loving, sweet child. His

> allergies are driving him nuts and from your emails I'm wondering if

> allegra could be a problem. Sometimes I think it's just puberty and he's

> becoming more " normal " The one email about the 16 year old who is now

> having tons of problems. I wondered if maybe it could be

> puberty/hormones? Anyway, I think part of my sons anger is rebelling

> against the constant worry I have. I try not to let him see it but I

> think he feels it. Sorry for the long post here. I hardly ever have time

> to respond. Thanks, Jerri

>

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July 3, 2009

It is also extremely effective and necessary at this time for my son for impulse

control.

Kristy

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