Wine question?

January 9, 2002

In a message dated 1/9/2002 6:13:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,

james@... writes:

<< For the brave or fool hardy - For those that find it a trigger have you

tried drinking alcohol to try kick you into NSR after a few hours of AF?

(please don't get sloshed on my account!) >>

, my brother tells me that back in his drinking days he would often take

a drink to quiet the symptoms of afib. He said when he was lying awake with

the " mammal " flopping around in his chest, he would take a drink and

everything would smooth out, allowing him to sleep. At the time he thought

that the drink had remedied his problem (he didn't know it was afib at that

time and thinks it wasn't permanent yet), but in retrospect he thinks the

drink just dimmed his consciousness and had an anesthetic effect that made

him less aware of the mammal.

I surmise from his experience that it's probably difficult to tell if the

drink is really helping to restore sinus because it may just mask the

symptoms. That's also his opinion. Now in permanent afib, he believes that

anyone afflicted with afib should stay completely away from alcohol as he

does, but I think perhaps it, like coffee, is a greater trigger for some than

for others. I decided long ago that I would not put my finger on that

trigger if there's the slightest chance it will cause afib. I have enough

problems without one more!

in afib in Seattle

January 9, 2002

Hi Guys

I would like to start out by saying thanks; I'm new to afib and

your comments to my posts have really helped. I'm in the wine

business and I know that we should stay away from alcohol, will one

glass of red wine once or twice a week bring on afib.

Thanks Andy!

January 9, 2002

> Hi Guys

> I would like to start out by saying thanks; I'm new to afib and

> your comments to my posts have really helped. I'm in the wine

> business and I know that we should stay away from alcohol, will one

> glass of red wine once or twice a week bring on afib.

> Thanks Andy!

>

My answer to this is 'suck and see' but I know others feel differently. I

stopped alcohol completely for about a year but I saw no change in my AF. I

started again in moderation and over did it a bit this Christmas without any

noticeable problems. I've gone back to moderation now since it's had to burn

a my belly off! Alcohol is a trigger for many but not for everybody (it

delays my attacks but doesn't prevent them).

For the brave or fool hardy - For those that find it a trigger have you

tried drinking alcohol to try kick you into NSR after a few hours of AF?

(please don't get sloshed on my account!)

--

D

January 10, 2002

> Hi Guys

> I would like to start out by saying thanks; I'm new to afib and

> your comments to my posts have really helped. I'm in the wine

> business and I know that we should stay away from alcohol, will one

> glass of red wine once or twice a week bring on afib.

> Thanks Andy!

Andy, I think you can't tell except to experiment. I recently

found that I can have an occasional chocolate without causing a

problem.

January 10, 2002

As everyone has said it seems to be different for everyone.

Personally I can't even have a sip as it makes my heart go way too

fast. I thought suggestion about taking a drink when in AF was

interesting. I might just try that (only a sip though as that is all

I need to get started). Surely it couldn't hurt. Wouldn't it be good

if it worked.

One thing I noticed from my drinking days (10 years ago)is that the

AF used to stay bad for days following a good night out. I put this

down to dehydration, and perhaps the blood being too thick and making

the heart work harder. Anybody got any thoughts on that?

Fran

es Driscoll " <james@d...> wrote:

>

> > Hi Guys

> > I would like to start out by saying thanks; I'm new to afib and

> > your comments to my posts have really helped. I'm in the wine

> > business and I know that we should stay away from alcohol, will

one

> > glass of red wine once or twice a week bring on afib.

> > Thanks Andy!

> >

> My answer to this is 'suck and see' but I know others feel

differently. I

> stopped alcohol completely for about a year but I saw no change in

my AF. I

> started again in moderation and over did it a bit this Christmas

without any

> noticeable problems. I've gone back to moderation now since it's

had to burn

> a my belly off! Alcohol is a trigger for many but not for everybody

(it

> delays my attacks but doesn't prevent them).

>

> For the brave or fool hardy - For those that find it a trigger

have you

> tried drinking alcohol to try kick you into NSR after a few hours

of AF?

> (please don't get sloshed on my account!)

> --

> D

January 15, 2002

In a message dated 1/15/02 3:59:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, msgander@...

writes:

> I've also recently noticed that if I'm in bed and afib begins, if I lie on

> my left side which can

> trigger an episode, it can also stop it. It doesn't make sense, but there

> have been several

> postings which indicate our individual triggers can also be saviours.

>

Actually it does make sense. I think in general you are talking about doing

things that stimulate the vagus nerve. This would cause the heart to slow

down (fast). A rapid slowdown in heart rhythm could knock you out of AFib

(as could an increase in rhythm).

Victor

January 15, 2002

Dear ,

Yes twice, and it worked. And, of course, the times alcohol triggered afib

are too numerous

to mention.

I've also recently noticed that if I'm in bed and afib begins, if I lie on