Re: Reason why some of our kids never get sick...?

[Guest guest]

my son has common variable immune deficiency (and PDD) and he never gets sick

anymore.  He was sick as a dog for the first 3 years of his life but now he

doesn't get sick at all.  Weird since his immune system is in the gutter.  He

doesn't have major signs of inflammation and possibly viral infection.  So,

we're trying to figure out what to do next with that. 

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From: natasa778 <neno@...>

Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:49:41 AM

Subject: Reason why some of our kids never get sick...?

 

Superinfection exclusion is the ability of an established virus

infection to interfere with infection by a second virus.

There's infection and then there's superinfection – when a

cell already infected by a virus gets a second viral infection. But some

viruses don't like to share their cells…. " A virus can

interfere with a secondary infection in a variety of ways, " says

Rice, head of the Laboratory of Virology and Infectious Disease and the

Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Professor. " It can interfere

with how a virus attaches to the cell, its penetration, or its access to

the cell's resources. " If both viruses are competing for the

same resources in the cell, then the first virus can confiscate them so

none are available for the second virus.

[Guest guest]

That is amazing!

From: natasa778 <neno@...>

Subject: Reason why some of our kids never get sick...?

Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 5:49 AM

 

Superinfection exclusion is the ability of an established virus

infection to interfere with infection by a second virus.

There's infection and then there's superinfection – when a

cell already infected by a virus gets a second viral infection. But some

viruses don't like to share their cells…. " A virus can

interfere with a secondary infection in a variety of ways, " says

Rice, head of the Laboratory of Virology and Infectious Disease and the

Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Professor. " It can interfere

with how a virus attaches to the cell, its penetration, or its access to

the cell's resources. " If both viruses are competing for the

same resources in the cell, then the first virus can confiscate them so

none are available for the second virus.

[Guest guest]

My girl has very high HHV6, despite of this, she use to be the healthiest in the

family, she got only 2 days little flu, when all ao us are 1 week in bed.

From: natasa778 <nenodalmaholidays (DOT) co.uk>

Subject: Reason why some of our kids never get sick...?

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Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 5:49 AM

 

Superinfection exclusion is the ability of an established virus

infection to interfere with infection by a second virus.

There's infection and then there's superinfection – when a

cell already infected by a virus gets a second viral infection. But some

viruses don't like to share their cells…. " A virus can

interfere with a secondary infection in a variety of ways, " says

Rice, head of the Laboratory of Virology and Infectious Disease and the

Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Professor. " It can interfere

with how a virus attaches to the cell, its penetration, or its access to

the cell's resources. " If both viruses are competing for the

same resources in the cell, then the first virus can confiscate them so

none are available for the second virus.

[Guest guest]

Or because the immune system isn't working to fight the virus at all because its

so dysfunctional so the virus just infiltrates with no WBC resistance....

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> Superinfection exclusion is the ability of an established virus

> infection to interfere with infection by a second virus.

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> There's infection and then there's superinfection – when a

> cell already infected by a virus gets a second viral infection. But some

> viruses don't like to share their cells…. " A virus can

> interfere with a secondary infection in a variety of ways, " says

> Rice, head of the Laboratory of Virology and Infectious Disease and the

> Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Professor. " It can interfere

> with how a virus attaches to the cell, its penetration, or its access to

> the cell's resources. " If both viruses are competing for the

> same resources in the cell, then the first virus can confiscate them so

> none are available for the second virus.

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[Guest guest]

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> with most viruses their unhindered infiltration would result in substantial

> damage to host, damaged organs etc ... Esp. with lytic viruses they could not

> just infiltrate without major health implications

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> Natasa

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> Or because the immune system isn't working to fight the virus at all because

> its so dysfunctional so the virus just infiltrates with no WBC resistance....

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>> > Superinfection exclusion is the ability of an established virus

>> > infection to interfere with infection by a second virus.

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>> > There's infection and then there's superinfection – when a

>> > cell already infected by a virus gets a second viral infection. But some

>> > viruses don't like to share their cells…. " A virus can

>> > interfere with a secondary infection in a variety of ways, " says

>> > Rice, head of the Laboratory of Virology and Infectious Disease and the

>> > Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Professor. " It can interfere

>> > with how a virus attaches to the cell, its penetration, or its access to

>> > the cell's resources. " If both viruses are competing for the

>> > same resources in the cell, then the first virus can confiscate them so

>> > none are available for the second virus.

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[Guest guest]

a major health implication such as autism? cancer? I read somewhere last year

a study done that linked the HHV6 to glioblastoma multiforme. I thought of what

my daughters viral titers showed: high HHV6. Interesting. She never showed any

signs of an HHV6 (roseola) infection. My son had it a year earlier.

I wasnt speaking of an active infection, but maybe something that kind of

smolders, causing problems later on...

Dr. Goldberg does discuss this in his lectures/powerpoints that our kids have

latent HHV6 and they like to live in the temporal lobes of the brain. Many

times our kids dont even make antibodies to certain viruses because their immune

systems are so messed up.

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> >> > Superinfection exclusion is the ability of an established virus

> >> > infection to interfere with infection by a second virus.

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> >> > There's infection and then there's superinfection – when a

> >> > cell already infected by a virus gets a second viral infection. But some

> >> > viruses don't like to share their cells…. " A virus can

> >> > interfere with a secondary infection in a variety of ways, " says

> >> > Rice, head of the Laboratory of Virology and Infectious Disease and the

> >> > Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Professor. " It can interfere

> >> > with how a virus attaches to the cell, its penetration, or its access to

> >> > the cell's resources. " If both viruses are competing for the

> >> > same resources in the cell, then the first virus can confiscate them so

> >> > none are available for the second virus.

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[Guest guest]

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> no I meant something like major lung damage, organ failure etc.... Unhindered

> lytic virus would be it eating away at the tissue, making visible occlusions.

> This could in theory happen in a flu virus infection that goes unrecognised

> and is not stopped.

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> herpes is not like that, doesn¹t kill host cells when replicating, so yes in

> theory possible that it sneaks though unnoticed. Esp. if it becomes latent

> soon after. Immune system would not be recognising and fighting latent

> viruses, only actively replicating ones.

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> Natasa

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> a major health implication such as autism? cancer? I read somewhere last

> year a study done that linked the HHV6 to glioblastoma multiforme. I thought

> of what my daughters viral titers showed: high HHV6. Interesting. She never

> showed any signs of an HHV6 (roseola) infection. My son had it a year

> earlier.

>

> I wasnt speaking of an active infection, but maybe something that kind of

> smolders, causing problems later on...

>

> Dr. Goldberg does discuss this in his lectures/powerpoints that our kids have

> latent HHV6 and they like to live in the temporal lobes of the brain. Many

> times our kids dont even make antibodies to certain viruses because their

> immune systems are so messed up.

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>>>>> > >> > There's infection and then there's superinfection – when a

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>>>>> > >> > interfere with a secondary infection in a variety of ways, " says

>>>>> > >> > Rice, head of the Laboratory of Virology and Infectious Disease and

the

>>>>> > >> > Maurice R. and Corinne P. Greenberg Professor. " It can interfere

>>>>> > >> > with how a virus attaches to the cell, its penetration, or its

>>>>> access to

>>>>> > >> > the cell's resources. " If both viruses are competing for the

>>>>> > >> > same resources in the cell, then the first virus can confiscate

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