Thoughtful House on NBC News

August 25, 2009

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Sunday, Aug. 30: 'A Dose of Controversy' Posted: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:01

PM by Chuck

NBC News' Matt Lauer will take an unprecedented look at the emotional debate

surrounding vaccines and the suggested link to autism on Sunday, August 30 at 7

p.m. ET with " Dose of Controversy. " In the one-hour Dateline, Lauer speaks

exclusively with Dr. Wakefield, whose 1998 medical study was the first in

the world to suggest a possible link between the MMR vaccine and autism. The

British doctor has since influenced the lives and stirred the passions of

millions of parents worldwide looking to solve the mystery of what causes the

complex developmental disorder.

But Dr. Wakefield's theories have also raised serious questions from the media

and the medical community. Lauer interviews investigative journalist Deer

who wrote a critical report for London's Sunday Times in 2004 detailing what he

said were potential conflicts of interest that Dr. Wakefield had never revealed.

Lauer also talks with Dr. Offit, a pediatrician at Children's Hospital of

Philadelphia and expert on vaccines who has spoken out on behalf of vaccine

safety in the United States.

Now, Dr. Wakefield reacts to his harshest critics on the controversy he's

created over the past decade.

Lauer also reports on Dr. Wakefield's most recent work in the United States and

the medical community's continuing search for the cause of autism, including new

studies from researchers working to understand the disorder that affects 1 in

150 American children.

August 27, 2009

Hi there, will the programme be broadcast in the UK? Regards Marina

On Aug 25, 2009 7:57 PM, <CarolineTraa@...> wrote:

Thoughtful House on NBC News

Story Scheduled to be Broadcast this Weekend

August 25, 2009

Dear Friends, As some of you may have already heard, the NBC television network is producing a special on Thoughtful House and Dr. Wakefield. We are sending along this note to make you aware of the extent of coverage on various programs and the scheduled broadcast date. First, though, we thought it was important to help everyone understand our decision to cooperate with the reporter, Matt Lauer, and his producer, Ami Schmitz. In our estimation, there has not yet been any fair coverage in the mainstream media of Dr. Wakefield or the work of Thoughtful House. While we have a large community of supporters that know Dr. Wakefield's credibility and the accomplishments of Thoughtful House and our excellent physicians and clinicians, including Dr. Jepson, Dr. Arthur Krigsman, and Barnhill, CN, CCN, many of us in the Autism Advocacy Community spend most of our time communicating with people in similar situations. Our challenge has always been to reach out to a greater population that might not know or understand what is happening with regard to the autism epidemic and the lack of government research into potential causes, which includes looking at vaccine safety. We thought that if we ever were able to communicate with a fair-minded journalist working at a media outlet with both credibility and reach then it was likely to be worth the risk trying to tell our story. We have taken that chance with NBC. While we initially declined their invitation for a story, we were persuaded to move forward when Matt Lauer was proposed as the correspondent. His reputation for being objective and thorough prompted us to reconsider and ultimately to open our doors. In March, TV crews from The Today Show, Dateline, and NBC Nightly News began gathering material at Thoughtful House in Austin. This involved taping long interviews with Drs. Wakefield, Jepson, and Krigsman, some of our therapists, administrators, and, more importantly, a few of our families. The crews traveled to London to report on the Lancet controversy and interviewed many of the central figures relevant to that part of our story. They also taped interviews, presentations, and families in attendance at the Atlanta DAN conference. Dr. Wakefield was flown to New York by the network and received what he described as a " tough but fair " interview in a one-on-one with Today Show host Matt Lauer. The person we have dealt with throughout the course of this project is Mr. Lauer's producer, Ami Schmitz. Ami has a long resume as a medical journalist and was formerly Dr. 's producer at ABC News. In our assessment, she has been thorough and diligent in gathering information, documents, and asking the kind of detailed questions that have been glossed over or conflated in previous reporting. We believe, based upon hours and hours of working with Ami, she is writing an even-handed report, which will be narrated and hosted by Mr. Lauer. Nothing is certain, of course, so we are taking a risk. However, we believe the potential reward is worth that risk; it's entirely possible this will be the first time this subject matter (autism, Wakefield, Thoughtful House, vaccine safety research) has been considered objectively in mainstream media. If that is the case, we have the possibility of communicating with millions of people and that will be nothing but positive for those of us dealing with autism in our own families. We will find out this Friday, August 28. A portion of Mr. Lauer's interview with Dr. Wakefield will be broadcast in an 8-10 minute segment on The Today Show. Either Saturday or Sunday, the NBC Nightly News Weekend will also broadcast a lengthy piece on Thoughtful House and vaccine safety. Coverage will culminate on Sunday night, August 30, at 7 pm EST, with an hour-long broadcast hosted by Mr. Lauer on Dateline NBC. This is scheduled to be adjacent to the Sunday night NFL football game on NBC, which means there is the potential for a large audience. In fact, the cumulative audience for all of these programs means there are likely to be no less than 5 million people who learn about autism and Thoughtful House and, quite possibly, as many as 20 million viewers will see the various broadcasts. Consequently, you see the reason we decided to cooperate with NBC. The program might just be a game changer in the conversation we are all having in our communities with our governments, health care providers, insurance companies, and overall policies within our culture that marginalize families dealing with autism. We all started off several years ago on what many of us believe is the correct course for treatment and research and it has led us to this moment, and we believe we've made the right decision. We would like to ask all of you that are active in the autism community to hold all judgment and wait to see the final broadcast. NBC has dedicated substantial time and resources to this story and the producer has made every effort to interview people from all points of view. Our hope is that a fair story will be told and you may submit feedback to the network after the shows have aired. Please do not attempt to contact them prior to the broadcast. Please share this information with your friends, and if there are any last minutes changes, which we are told is always possible in the news business, you can rely on us to bring them to your attention. Sincerely, Anissa RylandDirector of OperationsThoughtful House Center for ChildrenWake

August 30, 2009

I hope you had a chance to watch the NBC Broadcast about the Thoughtful House.

I think Dr. Wakefield is a very brave man trying to fight the vaccine market

virtually by himself when he is a man with limited resources against

pharmaceutical companies that have trillions of dollars in resources and power

to do many things to prove him wrong. I just have one question and this is why

didn't he bring the two documents below to the interview with Matt Lauer????

Dr. Wakefield mentioned that the problem happens when the MMR vaccine is given

to children with immune systems that are not fully developed causing

inflammation of the digestive system. That is exactly what it says it could

happen to children with compromised immune systems in the MMR vaccine drug

description document that was written by the vaccine manufacturer.

Look also at the encephalitis definition from Merck I posted below.

Encephalitis is brain inflammation that in which before symptoms of encephalitis

start, people may have digestive symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea,

or abdominal pain. Just like virtually every child with

autism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This war against vaccines is very hard to win. We need to concentrate in

proving the world that children with autism are medically ill first, then once

that is proven everything else will just fall in place.

Please somebody tell me where is the mystery that everybody says autism

is??????????? Is it this hard to understand??????

and 's dad

Letter from the MMR Manufacturer to pediatricians about the MMR vaccine

https://www.merckvaccines.com/CustomerLetterPQD_0307.pdf

ProQuad should not be administered to certain individuals, including those with

any of the following: an immunodeficient condition.

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

MMR Vaccine CONTRAINDICATIONS

Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

immunosuppressed in

association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with human

immunodeficiency

viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and hypogammaglobulinemic and

dysgammaglobulinemic

states.

Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

immunosuppressed in

association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with human

immunodeficiency

viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and hypogammaglobulinemic and

dysgammaglobulinemic

states. Measles inclusion body encephalitis60 (MIBE), pneumonitis61 and death as

a direct consequence

of disseminated measles vaccine virus infection have been reported in

immunocompromised individuals

inadvertently vaccinated with measles-containing vaccine.

Encephalitis

http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec06/ch089/ch089f.html

Encephalitis is inflammation of the brain that occurs when a virus directly

infects the brain or when a virus or something else triggers inflammation. The

spinal cord may also be involved, resulting in a disorder called

encephalomyelitis.

Symptoms

Before symptoms of encephalitis start, people may have digestive symptoms, such

as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Or they may feel as if they

are getting a cold or the flu and have cough, fever, a sore throat, a runny

nose, swollen lymph nodes, and muscle aches.

Symptoms of encephalitis include

• Fever

• Headache

• Personality changes or confusion

• Seizures

• Paralysis or numbness

• Sleepiness that can progress to coma and death

August 30, 2009

The reality is the majority people that care about autism are those

directly or indirectly effected by it.

So parents care because their children have been hurt by it.

Some companies care because they can make profit from it.

Other companies care because their profits could be hurt by it.

And many others couldn't care at all because being the successfully

trained consumers they are, they have learn't that all they have to do

is care about themselves and everything else will magically fall into place.

There are some amazing people out there who care about others as much or

more than they care about themselves. But there's not enough of them.

Propogandists know if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.

This is why those that have the most media pull can so easily sway the

rest of the population against us.

And they have been so very effective.

I've had to fight with half of my family just to get them to stay out of

my way so I can get my daughter better. Now that my daughter is getting

much better they concede that they were wrong. But if I wasn't so

determined from the outset, they may have convinced me of the mainstream

propoganda line was correct, and my daughter would never have had the

chance at life that she can now.

I agree , that its important to show these kids are medically ill.

But the battle is a lot more political, economic and media related than

it is medical/scientific.

There's plenty of proof that ASD kids are medically ill. Getting the

rest of the world to look at that evidence is the hard part.

Cheers

August 30, 2009

Is there a link to the interview?

Thank you

In a message dated 31/08/2009 05:25:10 GMT Daylight Time,

jrodrig6605@... writes:

I hope you had a chance to watch the NBC Broadcast about the Thoughtful

House.

I think Dr. Wakefield is a very brave man trying to fight the vaccine

market virtually by himself when he is a man with limited resources against

pharmaceutical companies that have trillions of dollars in resources and power

to do many things to prove him wrong. I just have one question and this is

why didn't he bring the two documents below to the interview with Matt

Lauer???? Dr. Wakefield mentioned that the problem happens when the MMR

vaccine is given to children with immune systems that are not fully developed

causing inflammation of the digestive system. That is exactly what it says it

could happen to children with compromised immune systems in the MMR vaccine

drug description document that was written by the vaccine manufacturer.

Look also at the encephalitis definition from Merck I posted below.

Encephalitis is brain inflammation that in which before symptoms of

encephalitis

start, people may have digestive symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting,

diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Just like virtually every child with

autism!!!!!!Look alsoLook alsoLook also

This war against vaccines is very hard to win. We need to concentrate in

proving the world that children with autism are medically ill first, then

once that is proven everything else will just fall in place.

Please somebody tell me where is the mystery that everybody says autism

is??????????Please somebody tell me where is Plea

and 's dad

Letter from the MMR Manufacturer to pediatricians about the MMR vaccine

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(https://www.merckvaccines.com/CustomerLetterPQD_0307.pdf)

ProQuad should not be administered to certain individuals, including those

with any of the following: an immunodeficient condition.

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(http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf)

MMR Vaccine CONTRAINDICATIONS

Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

immunosuppressed in

association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with

human immunodeficiency

viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and

hypogammaglobulinemviruses;41-43 cellular immv

states.

Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

immunosuppressed in

association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with

human immunodeficiency

viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and

hypogammaglobulinemviruses;41-43 cellular immv

states. Measles inclusion body encephalitis60 (MIBE), pneumonitis61 and

death as a direct consequence

of disseminated measles vaccine virus infection have been reported in

immunocompromised individuals

inadvertently vaccinated with measles-containing vaccine.

Encephalitis

_http://www.merck.http://wwhttp://www.mhttp://www._

(http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec06/ch089/ch089f.html)

Encephalitis is inflammation of the brain that occurs when a virus

directly infects the brain or when a virus or something else triggers

inflammation. The spinal cord may also be involved, resulting in a disorder

called

encephalomyelitis.

Symptoms

Before symptoms of encephalitis start, people may have digestive symptoms,

such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Or they may feel as

if they are getting a cold or the flu and have cough, fever, a sore

throat, a runny nose, swollen lymph nodes, and muscle aches.

Symptoms of encephalitis include

â€¢ Fever

â€¢ Headache

â€¢ Personality changes or confusion

â€¢ Seizures

â€¢ Paralysis or numbness

â€¢ Sleepiness that can progress to coma and death

August 31, 2009

Weird. We DVR'd the Dateline episode from tonight. The description said it

was an interview with Dr. Wakefield, about autism. However, when we viewed

it the whole episode was actually about a woman named Sparkle and her

murder. We're in CA. I wonder if the network changed it somehow after it was

shown in other markets?

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

jrodrig6605

Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:24 PM

Subject: Thoughtful House on NBC News

I hope you had a chance to watch the NBC Broadcast about the Thoughtful

House.

I think Dr. Wakefield is a very brave man trying to fight the vaccine market

virtually by himself when he is a man with limited resources against

pharmaceutical companies that have trillions of dollars in resources and

power to do many things to prove him wrong. I just have one question and

this is why didn't he bring the two documents below to the interview with

Matt Lauer???? Dr. Wakefield mentioned that the problem happens when the MMR

vaccine is given to children with immune systems that are not fully

developed causing inflammation of the digestive system. That is exactly what

it says it could happen to children with compromised immune systems in the

MMR vaccine drug description document that was written by the vaccine

manufacturer.

Look also at the encephalitis definition from Merck I posted below.

Encephalitis is brain inflammation that in which before symptoms of

encephalitis start, people may have digestive symptoms, such as nausea,

vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Just like virtually every child with

autism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This war against vaccines is very hard to win. We need to concentrate in

proving the world that children with autism are medically ill first, then

once that is proven everything else will just fall in place.

Please somebody tell me where is the mystery that everybody says autism

is??????????? Is it this hard to understand??????

and 's dad

Letter from the MMR Manufacturer to pediatricians about the MMR vaccine

https://www.merckvaccines.com/CustomerLetterPQD_0307.pdf

ProQuad should not be administered to certain individuals, including those

with any of the following: an immunodeficient condition.

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

MMR Vaccine CONTRAINDICATIONS

Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

immunosuppressed in

association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with

human immunodeficiency

viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and hypogammaglobulinemic and

dysgammaglobulinemic

states.

Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

immunosuppressed in

association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with

human immunodeficiency

viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and hypogammaglobulinemic and

dysgammaglobulinemic

states. Measles inclusion body encephalitis60 (MIBE), pneumonitis61 and

death as a direct consequence

of disseminated measles vaccine virus infection have been reported in

immunocompromised individuals

inadvertently vaccinated with measles-containing vaccine.

Encephalitis

http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec06/ch089/ch089f.html

Encephalitis is inflammation of the brain that occurs when a virus directly

infects the brain or when a virus or something else triggers inflammation.

The spinal cord may also be involved, resulting in a disorder called

encephalomyelitis.

Symptoms

Before symptoms of encephalitis start, people may have digestive symptoms,

such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Or they may feel as

if they are getting a cold or the flu and have cough, fever, a sore throat,

a runny nose, swollen lymph nodes, and muscle aches.

Symptoms of encephalitis include

.. Fever

.. Headache

.. Personality changes or confusion

.. Seizures

.. Paralysis or numbness

.. Sleepiness that can progress to coma and death

August 31, 2009

the episode was call " a dose of controversy " . we watched it in NYC.

however, i recorded with the dvr and the rcording was damaed in certain

segments. it's worth watching. i believe dr.wakefield comes across as an

honest and brave researcher.

maria b

2009/8/31 Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

>

> Weird. We DVR'd the Dateline episode from tonight. The description said it

> was an interview with Dr. Wakefield, about autism. However, when we viewed

> it the whole episode was actually about a woman named Sparkle and her

> murder. We're in CA. I wonder if the network changed it somehow after it

> was

> shown in other markets?

>

> Kristy

>

> From: <%40> [mailto:

> <%40>] On Behalf Of

> jrodrig6605

> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:24 PM

> <%40>

> Subject: Thoughtful House on NBC News

>

> I hope you had a chance to watch the NBC Broadcast about the Thoughtful

> House.

>

> I think Dr. Wakefield is a very brave man trying to fight the vaccine

> market

> virtually by himself when he is a man with limited resources against

> pharmaceutical companies that have trillions of dollars in resources and

> power to do many things to prove him wrong. I just have one question and

> this is why didn't he bring the two documents below to the interview with

> Matt Lauer???? Dr. Wakefield mentioned that the problem happens when the

> MMR

> vaccine is given to children with immune systems that are not fully

> developed causing inflammation of the digestive system. That is exactly

> what

> it says it could happen to children with compromised immune systems in the

> MMR vaccine drug description document that was written by the vaccine

> manufacturer.

>

> Look also at the encephalitis definition from Merck I posted below.

> Encephalitis is brain inflammation that in which before symptoms of

> encephalitis start, people may have digestive symptoms, such as nausea,

> vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Just like virtually every child with

> autism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> This war against vaccines is very hard to win. We need to concentrate in

> proving the world that children with autism are medically ill first, then

> once that is proven everything else will just fall in place.

>

> Please somebody tell me where is the mystery that everybody says autism

> is??????????? Is it this hard to understand??????

>

> and 's dad

>

> Letter from the MMR Manufacturer to pediatricians about the MMR vaccine

> https://www.merckvaccines.com/CustomerLetterPQD_0307.pdf

> ProQuad should not be administered to certain individuals, including those

> with any of the following: an immunodeficient condition.

>

> http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

> MMR Vaccine CONTRAINDICATIONS

> Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

> immunosuppressed in

> association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with

> human immunodeficiency

> viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and hypogammaglobulinemic and

> dysgammaglobulinemic

> states.

>

> Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients who are

> immunosuppressed in

> association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection with

> human immunodeficiency

> viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and hypogammaglobulinemic and

> dysgammaglobulinemic

> states. Measles inclusion body encephalitis60 (MIBE), pneumonitis61 and

> death as a direct consequence

> of disseminated measles vaccine virus infection have been reported in

> immunocompromised individuals

> inadvertently vaccinated with measles-containing vaccine.

>

> Encephalitis

>

> http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec06/ch089/ch089f.html

>

> Encephalitis is inflammation of the brain that occurs when a virus directly

> infects the brain or when a virus or something else triggers inflammation.

> The spinal cord may also be involved, resulting in a disorder called

> encephalomyelitis.

>

> Symptoms

> Before symptoms of encephalitis start, people may have digestive symptoms,

> such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Or they may feel as

> if they are getting a cold or the flu and have cough, fever, a sore throat,

> a runny nose, swollen lymph nodes, and muscle aches.

> Symptoms of encephalitis include

> . Fever

> . Headache

> . Personality changes or confusion

> . Seizures

> . Paralysis or numbness

> . Sleepiness that can progress to coma and death

>

August 31, 2009

You would think that someone working for the pharmaceutical company

has an autistic child and knows they are sick!!!! I guess those

people are made to keep quiet somehow. A disgrace!!!

On Aug 30, 2009, at 11:22 PM, jrodrig6605 wrote:

> I hope you had a chance to watch the NBC Broadcast about the

> Thoughtful House.

>

> I think Dr. Wakewield is a very brave man trying to fight the

> vaccine market virtually by himself when he is a man with limited

> resources against pharmaceutical companies that have trillions of

> dollars in resources and power to do many things to prove him

> wrong. I just have one question and this is why didn't he bring the

> two documents below to the interview with Matt Lauer???? Dr.

> Wakefield mentioned that the problem happens when the MMR vaccine

> is given to children with immune systems that are not fully

> developed causing inflammation of the digestive system. That is

> exactly what it says it could happen to children with compromised

> immune systems in the MMR vaccine drug description document that

> was written by the vaccine manufacturer.

>

> Look also at the encephalitis definition from Merck I posted below.

> Encephalitis is brain inflammation that in which before symptoms of

> encephalitis start, people may have digestive symptoms, such as

> nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Just like virtually

> every child with autism!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> This war against vaccines is very hard to win. We need to

> concentrate in proving the world that children with autism are

> medically ill first, then once that is proven everything else will

> just fall in place.

>

> Please somebody tell me where is the mystery that everybody says

> autism is??????????? Is it this hard to understand??????

>

> and 's dad

>

> Letter from the MMR Manufacturer to pediatricians about the MMR

> vaccine

> https://www.merckvaccines.com/CustomerLetterPQD_0307.pdf

> ProQuad should not be administered to certain individuals,

> including those with any of the following: an immunodeficient

> condition.

>

> http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

> MMR Vaccine CONTRAINDICATIONS

> Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients

> who are immunosuppressed in

> association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection

> with human immunodeficiency

> viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and

> hypogammaglobulinemic and dysgammaglobulinemic

> states.

>

> Primary and acquired immunodeficiency states, including patients

> who are immunosuppressed in

> association with AIDS or other clinical manifestations of infection

> with human immunodeficiency

> viruses;41-43 cellular immune deficiencies; and

> hypogammaglobulinemic and dysgammaglobulinemic

> states. Measles inclusion body encephalitis60 (MIBE), pneumonitis61

> and death as a direct consequence

> of disseminated measles vaccine virus infection have been reported

> in immunocompromised individuals

> inadvertently vaccinated with measles-containing vaccine.

>

> Encephalitis

>

> http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec06/ch089/ch089f.html

>

> Encephalitis is inflammation of the brain that occurs when a virus

> directly infects the brain or when a virus or something else

> triggers inflammation. The spinal cord may also be involved,

> resulting in a disorder called encephalomyelitis.

>

> Symptoms

> Before symptoms of encephalitis start, people may have digestive

> symptoms, such as nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, or abdominal pain. Or

> they may feel as if they are getting a cold or the flu and have

> cough, fever, a sore throat, a runny nose, swollen lymph nodes, and

> muscle aches.

> Symptoms of encephalitis include

> • Fever

> • Headache

> • Personality changes or confusion

> • Seizures

> • Paralysis or numbness

> • Sleepiness that can progress to coma and death

>

August 31, 2009

I agree with about the lack of active compassion for Autism unless you are

affected by it. I just don't understand why there isn't more panic over the 1

in 100 number...

Maybe it is too easy to blame much of Autism (except the severe) on poor

parenting and 'bad behavior' instead of underlying illness. I know members of

my family were slow to take my son's diagnosis seriously and most still don't

give biomedical any credit despite our incredible transformation over the past

few years.

And then there is the whole battle on the inside between believers and

non-believers. Still too many who have kids on the spectrum that can't wrap

their minds around toxins and environmental damage.

I have a long " I told you so " list that gets names added to it every day.

Juvenile, I know, but it makes me feel better! My husband is on the top of it

(sigh).

Pam

>

> The reality is the majority people that care about autism are those

> directly or indirectly effected by it.

>

> So parents care because their children have been hurt by it.

>

> Some companies care because they can make profit from it.

>

> Other companies care because their profits could be hurt by it.

>

> And many others couldn't care at all because being the successfully

> trained consumers they are, they have learn't that all they have to do

> is care about themselves and everything else will magically fall into place.

>

> There are some amazing people out there who care about others as much or

> more than they care about themselves. But there's not enough of them.

>

> Propogandists know if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.

>

> This is why those that have the most media pull can so easily sway the

> rest of the population against us.

>

> And they have been so very effective.

>

> I've had to fight with half of my family just to get them to stay out of

> my way so I can get my daughter better. Now that my daughter is getting

> much better they concede that they were wrong. But if I wasn't so

> determined from the outset, they may have convinced me of the mainstream

> propoganda line was correct, and my daughter would never have had the

> chance at life that she can now.

>

> I agree , that its important to show these kids are medically ill.

> But the battle is a lot more political, economic and media related than

> it is medical/scientific.

>

> There's plenty of proof that ASD kids are medically ill. Getting the

> rest of the world to look at that evidence is the hard part.

>

> Cheers

>

August 31, 2009

That happend to me as well. it actually came on at 10pm, after the regular

dateline

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

Subject: RE: Thoughtful House on NBC News

Date: Sunday, August 30, 2009, 11:53 PM

Weird. We DVR'd the Dateline episode from tonight. The

description said it

was an interview with Dr. Wakefield, about autism. However, when we viewed

it the whole episode was actually about a woman named Sparkle and her

murder. We're in CA. I wonder if the network changed it somehow after it was

shown in other markets?

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

jrodrig6605

Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:24 PM

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