Re: New to rifing. Is this herx related?

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Look svery much like a herx to me Sue ,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:59 PMSubject: New to rifing. Is this herx related?

I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for babesia. I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 minutes each time. I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had bad restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. It also seems to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if that's because I'm anxious and a little disappointed that it does not seem to be working. I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old 'normal', and generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function OK at work etc. Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times? Thanks. Sue

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Personally, I think it sounds like a herx, which does not always happen

immediately. And i don't think you should increase yet, in fact, I think you

should skip a day or two, especially since you're so new to Rifing. I have a

GB4000, but not with MOPA, so mine gives a weaker treatment. But I was advised

to start out slow--treatments no longer than 1/2 hour, at least a week apart.

Eventually I worked up to 1 hour treatments every 3 days, but now I'm back to

weekly (except when I'm on antibiotics). I do not devote the entire hour to

killing LD. I also work on some other pathogens, detox, inflammation, etc.

I've heard that you should always run a detox program in addition to a killing

program(s). The detox program can help make your herx easier.

Khaya

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> I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for babesia.

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> I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 minutes

each time.

>

> I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had bad

restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. It also seems

to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if that's because I'm anxious

and a little disappointed that it does not seem to be working.

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> I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old 'normal', and

generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function OK at work etc.

>

> Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Sue

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,Don't underestimate the full moon this month. I, too, had a horrible night last night, with itching, muscle spasms dark, obsessive thoughts; the works! A marine biologist studied the population explosion of pathogens around the full moon, and most Lymies have an increase in symptoms around this time. This particular moon is supposed to be extra powerful, so hunker down, don't feed the beasties with sugars and carbs, and get ready to kill them once the moon starts to wane.Be well,Léna (a latter day Lon Chaney, howling at the moon) Look svery much like a herx to me Sue , Kindly Marie To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:59 PMSubject: New to rifing. Is this herx related? I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for babesia. I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 minutes each time. I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had bad restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. It also seems to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if that's because I'm anxious and a little disappointed that it does not seem to be working. I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old 'normal', and generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function OK at work etc. Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times? Thanks. Sue

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Thanks lena, No wonder I tossed and turned all night and didn't get a good

nights rest. Jodie

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> Look svery much like a herx to me Sue ,

> Kindly Marie

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> To: Lyme_and_Rife

> Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:59 PM

> Subject: New to rifing. Is this herx related?

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> I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for

> babesia.

>

> I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20

> minutes each time.

>

> I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had

> bad restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down.

> It also seems to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if

> that's because I'm anxious and a little disappointed that it does not

> seem to be working.

>

> I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old

> 'normal', and generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function

> OK at work etc.

>

> Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Sue

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[Guest guest]

What frequency/channel do you run for inflammation?

Sue

[Guest guest]

All right Lena ,

we gather the weapons I coiled otnight tomorow is the radiac again .

KIndly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 8:54 PMSubject: Re: New to rifing. Is this herx related?

Thanks lena, No wonder I tossed and turned all night and didn't get a good nights rest. Jodie> > > Look svery much like a herx to me Sue ,> Kindly Marie> > > To: Lyme_and_Rife > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 3:59 PM> Subject: New to rifing. Is this herx related?> > > I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for > babesia.> > I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 > minutes each time.> > I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had > bad restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. > It also seems to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if > that's

because I'm anxious and a little disappointed that it does not > seem to be working.> > I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old > 'normal', and generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function > OK at work etc.> > Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times?> > Thanks.> > Sue>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Herxes come in different ways, I don't know if this is a herx or not...

If it were me, I would not increase the time until I was sure this was not a

herx.

If you use the same session time again and don't experience these symptoms,

I would not consider it a herx.. Then I would increase the session time next

session.

Are you using the machine as close to you as you can? Very important..

Take care,

Jim

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> I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for babesia.

>

> I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 minutes

each time.

>

> I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had bad

restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. It also seems

to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if that's because I'm anxious

and a little disappointed that it does not seem to be working.

>

> I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old 'normal', and

generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function OK at work etc.

>

> Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

How close should I hold the MOPA to my body? Is it best

not to be clothed?

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

Here are a few frx's for inflammation I got from the CAFL list...

http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/CAFL.htm

Inflammation_general (also see Infection general sets) - 1.5, 3.6, 2720

If you also do a page search on the above link for " inflammation " you will come

up with

more specific inflammation uses...

Take care,

Jim

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> What frequency/channel do you run for inflammation?

> Sue

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[Guest guest]

THank you JIm ,

Kindly Marie

To: Lyme_and_Rife Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:18 PMSubject: Re: New to rifing. Is this herx related?

Hi Sue,Here are a few frx's for inflammation I got from the CAFL list...http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/FrequenciesandAnecdotes/CAFL.htmInflammation_general (also see Infection general sets) - 1.5, 3.6, 2720If you also do a page search on the above link for "inflammation" you will come up withmore specific inflammation uses...Take care,Jim>> What frequency/channel do you run for inflammation?> Sue>

[Guest guest]

One more thing Sue,

For Babesia, consider rifing every other day as long as you don't have a

bad herx, then you would wait until it is over.

Take care,

Jim

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> > I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for babesia.

> >

> > I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 minutes

each time.

> >

> > I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had bad

restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. It also seems

to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if that's because I'm anxious

and a little disappointed that it does not seem to be working.

> >

> > I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old 'normal',

and generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function OK at work etc.

> >

> > Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Sue

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

As close as you possibly can get... The further away you get,

the power of the frx's greatly diminish.. Just foot away and you

lose a lot of the power this device puts out..

I will not matter if you are clothed or not, closeness is what counts!!

Take care,

Jim

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> How close should I hold the MOPA to my body? Is it best

> not to be clothed?

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> Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

And if find yourself more anxious or irritable than usual, that can be part of

the herx, too, especially when treating the liver.

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> > > I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for babesia.

> > >

> > > I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 minutes

each time.

> > >

> > > I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had bad

restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. It also seems

to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if that's because I'm anxious

and a little disappointed that it does not seem to be working.

> > >

> > > I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old 'normal',

and generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function OK at work etc.

> > >

> > > Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > Sue

> > >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I so think that the restless legs and the insomnia could be full moon related

and also a herx. I have had the same kinds of issues this past week and they

got better for a day after coiling, then got worse after starting a Borrelia

Homeopathic nosode on Saturday of the full moon.

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> I have started to use my (new) GB4000 with MOPA and am rifing for babesia.

>

> I've been doing it now nightly for 4 sessions and am rifing for 20 minutes

each time.

>

> I've had little reaction, good or bad, except last night, when I had bad

restless legs and extreme insomnia. My mind would not slow down. It also seems

to have made me more irritable, but I don't know if that's because I'm anxious

and a little disappointed that it does not seem to be working.

>

> I should mention that I'm not terribly ill--about 75% of my old 'normal', and

generally feel slightly ill and miserable but function OK at work etc.

>

> Does this sound like a herx or should I raise the times?

>

> Thanks.

>

> Sue

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