GF/CF Diet

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Just wanted to respond that our son is on the diet and we'll probably keep

him on it as long as we can. He's only 27 months, and I know we'll face

obstacles when he becomes school-age, but for us, the diet's worth it. In

fact, the whole family is on it and our future children will probably be on

it, too - at least when they're at home. It's just easier that way.

We started Noah on the diet when he was 19 months. We took out gluten,

casein, and soy. He started sleeping through the night (12 hours vs. the 6

he used to sleep). He came out of a fog (he used to wake up at 4:30 am and

stare out the window until 3:00pm). He started making eye contact and he no

longer acted like he was deaf. I'd say about 50% of his autistic traits

improved. We still don't have language; we still don't have much receptive

language; he still stims; he still spaces out at least once a day. But it

was worth it.

Infractions: if he has a little bit of soy, and we're talking a tiny spray

of Pam to cook an egg, he'll be up for 3 days. Gluten will case his

" midnight giggle sessions " to return, and he'll start crawling again and

drag his head across the floor and space out for 4 days. We've had two

casein infractions: one caused a 6 hour crying session and the other caused

head butting the floor within 15 minutes and another long crying session.

He's getting tested for yeast on Thursday and we're trying to restrict

sugar. It's hard and it's unfair, but for us, it's worth it. Obviously,

we're not having to deal with school issues yet - we're praying for some

miracle cure before then! haha

Best of luck!

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Just wanted to respond that our son is on the diet and we'll probably keep

him on it as long as we can. He's only 27 months, and I know we'll face

obstacles when he becomes school-age, but for us, the diet's worth it. In

fact, the whole family is on it and our future children will probably be on

it, too - at least when they're at home. It's just easier that way.

We started Noah on the diet when he was 19 months. We took out gluten,

casein, and soy. He started sleeping through the night (12 hours vs. the 6

he used to sleep). He came out of a fog (he used to wake up at 4:30 am and

stare out the window until 3:00pm). He started making eye contact and he no

longer acted like he was deaf. I'd say about 50% of his autistic traits

improved. We still don't have language; we still don't have much receptive

language; he still stims; he still spaces out at least once a day. But it

was worth it.

Infractions: if he has a little bit of soy, and we're talking a tiny spray

of Pam to cook an egg, he'll be up for 3 days. Gluten will case his

" midnight giggle sessions " to return, and he'll start crawling again and

drag his head across the floor and space out for 4 days. We've had two

casein infractions: one caused a 6 hour crying session and the other caused

head butting the floor within 15 minutes and another long crying session.

He's getting tested for yeast on Thursday and we're trying to restrict

sugar. It's hard and it's unfair, but for us, it's worth it. Obviously,

we're not having to deal with school issues yet - we're praying for some

miracle cure before then! haha

Best of luck!

[Guest guest]

We have been on this diet for over 4 years. Our improvement was

dramatic (in play and language). We knew within a couple of weeks that

it was working. We have taken it further and are also soy free and

mostly corn free and dye free. Our son did have the yucky bowel

movements prior to this diet.

> Has anyone actually tried the gluten free/casein free diet which is

supposed to be helpful for autism? Please share your experience. What

results did you see? How long did it take to see them?

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Can someone please tell me how you would go about starting this kind of

diet/change of eating? How do you do this with other children in the house

without ADHD or AS or PDD? How long should it take to see a difference? Also

does anyone use vitamins and supplements instead of prescription meds fron the

doc? Sorry so many questions, but my AS/ADHD son Noah is almost 5 and on

Adderall(20mg) and the side effects (sleeping issues, no appetite, tics etc...)

are driving us NUTS!! Thanks for any and ALL advice! Sheri

( ) Re: GF/CF diet

We have been on this diet for over 4 years. Our improvement was

dramatic (in play and language). We knew within a couple of weeks that

it was working. We have taken it further and are also soy free and

mostly corn free and dye free. Our son did have the yucky bowel

movements prior to this diet.

> Has anyone actually tried the gluten free/casein free diet which is

supposed to be helpful for autism? Please share your experience. What

results did you see? How long did it take to see them?

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

There is a tremendous support group at for this, and tons of

internet sites as well. We downloaded a document that told us by

product what was gluten and casein free and went shopping with it.

Our home is gluten free because of contamination issues, and we keep

dairy in the fridge in the form of cheese and 1/2-1/2.

It took us 2 weeks. Most support groups will ask that you give it a

month to three months of totally following it before throwing in the

towel. A lot of times after people go back to gluten they see the

difference and switch back to the diet again. For some people the

changes are so subtle that it takes getting it again to see the

glassy eyes and repetitive behaviors to come back in full force.

We do not use prescription meds at this time. We do use vitamins,

but the kids don't get it every day. We have liquid calcium we put

in apple juice, and we get calcium fortified oj. We also eat a lot

of dark lettuce and broccoli.

I heard some really good results on kids with ADHD on this diet,

especially if you also go dye free (red 40 causes my kids to run

around like a chicken with its head cut off) and cut down the sugar

(use fructose instead, in the form of raw honey if you can get it).

> Can someone please tell me how you would go about starting this

kind of diet/change of eating? How do you do this with other

children in the house without ADHD or AS or PDD? How long should it

take to see a difference? Also does anyone use vitamins and

supplements instead of prescription meds fron the doc? Sorry so

many questions, but my AS/ADHD son Noah is almost 5 and on Adderall

(20mg) and the side effects (sleeping issues, no appetite, tics

etc...) are driving us NUTS!! Thanks for any and ALL advice! Sheri

[Guest guest]

Hi, this diet sounds very interesting but I know I could never be consistant

with it. Did anyone try it for at least 3 months and didn't see any results.

If its all positive results maybe I will try it out. Is this diet expensive?

do I have to do a lot of special cooking? would we see any weight changes?

more/less/no weight changes? How hard was it for anyone who tried it? did the

children like it and ate the same as before they started this diet?

LJL <laura6307@...> wrote:There is a tremendous support group at for

this, and tons of

internet sites as well. We downloaded a document that told us by

product what was gluten and casein free and went shopping with it.

Our home is gluten free because of contamination issues, and we keep

dairy in the fridge in the form of cheese and 1/2-1/2.

It took us 2 weeks. Most support groups will ask that you give it a

month to three months of totally following it before throwing in the

towel. A lot of times after people go back to gluten they see the

difference and switch back to the diet again. For some people the

changes are so subtle that it takes getting it again to see the

glassy eyes and repetitive behaviors to come back in full force.

We do not use prescription meds at this time. We do use vitamins,

but the kids don't get it every day. We have liquid calcium we put

in apple juice, and we get calcium fortified oj. We also eat a lot

of dark lettuce and broccoli.

I heard some really good results on kids with ADHD on this diet,

especially if you also go dye free (red 40 causes my kids to run

around like a chicken with its head cut off) and cut down the sugar

(use fructose instead, in the form of raw honey if you can get it).

> Can someone please tell me how you would go about starting this

kind of diet/change of eating? How do you do this with other

children in the house without ADHD or AS or PDD? How long should it

take to see a difference? Also does anyone use vitamins and

supplements instead of prescription meds fron the doc? Sorry so

many questions, but my AS/ADHD son Noah is almost 5 and on Adderall

(20mg) and the side effects (sleeping issues, no appetite, tics

etc...) are driving us NUTS!! Thanks for any and ALL advice! Sheri

[Guest guest]

Sheri wrote:

Sorry so many questions, but my AS/ADHD son Noah is almost 5 and on

Adderall(20mg) and the side effects (sleeping issues, no appetite, tics etc.

..) are driving us NUTS!!

Sheri,

I would direct medication concerns with the MD who prescribed them and don;t

settle on the side effects. My son has no problems with his meds. The

beginning was trial and error. There should never be an adverse change in

the child's behavior if the medication is appropriate. This should be with

any medication for any medical reason unless you are told differently ( such

as chemo).

The diets are difficult to follow (for all family members), expensive and

there are NO substitutes. We could not do it for all of the above reasons

plus... At my DS age (12) he's on his own at school/Dad's house/ friends/

school dances with food choices. So... age is a big factor

My DD has a friend that has severe peanut allergies and she brings her own

birthday cake and snacks to the parties including school parties, bowling

parties, etc... Her Mom will not allow sleep overs until she is sure the

family understands and takes seriously her DD allergies and makes sure

someone knows how to use an epipen. This child understand clearly the

consequences if she doesn't follow her special diet. Your child will not

have an immediate severe reaction so they may sneak; many adults will feel

bad and give them the cakes, cookies, chips etc. that the other kids have.

With the GF/CF diet it is my understanding that you would need to follow the

same proto-call(bring your child's food) for it to work. Any slip-ups will

be the reason why it didn't work. Anyone on " the boards " will tell you that.

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

We have tried concerta, dexamphetamine, adderall, dexamphetamine xr and he is

now on adderall xr. It has been an 8 month battle with trying all of these.

The adderall works ok, but our pediatrician and his behavior psycologist both

say there will always be side effects. I had to push for help from them since

he was 2. We have seen LOTS of docs and etc. He takes 1 mg of clonadine to

help with sleep. The Melatonin and Benadryl we tried first didn't even phase

him. Even now it takes longer than the average 1 hr to get him to sleep on the

clonadine. I am at my wits end. We also have such a problem with him obsessing

over things. The psycologist said at the young age of almost 5 (oct.28th) it

cannot be labeled " OC " it's just a " behavior issue. " I have no idea what to do!

He will not take no for an answer. Right now it's pumpkins, he had the same

obsession last year, we already have 80 or so! Does anyone have the same issues

with obsessions at almost 5? Just the thought of putting him on another med or

more than one at a time scares me! HELP!! Sheri

Re: ( ) Re: GF/CF diet

Sheri wrote:

Sorry so many questions, but my AS/ADHD son Noah is almost 5 and on

Adderall(20mg) and the side effects (sleeping issues, no appetite, tics etc.

.) are driving us NUTS!!

Sheri,

I would direct medication concerns with the MD who prescribed them and don;t

settle on the side effects. My son has no problems with his meds. The

beginning was trial and error. There should never be an adverse change in

the child's behavior if the medication is appropriate. This should be with

any medication for any medical reason unless you are told differently ( such

as chemo).

The diets are difficult to follow (for all family members), expensive and

there are NO substitutes. We could not do it for all of the above reasons

plus... At my DS age (12) he's on his own at school/Dad's house/ friends/

school dances with food choices. So... age is a big factor

My DD has a friend that has severe peanut allergies and she brings her own

birthday cake and snacks to the parties including school parties, bowling

parties, etc... Her Mom will not allow sleep overs until she is sure the

family understands and takes seriously her DD allergies and makes sure

someone knows how to use an epipen. This child understand clearly the

consequences if she doesn't follow her special diet. Your child will not

have an immediate severe reaction so they may sneak; many adults will feel

bad and give them the cakes, cookies, chips etc. that the other kids have.

With the GF/CF diet it is my understanding that you would need to follow the

same proto-call(bring your child's food) for it to work. Any slip-ups will

be the reason why it didn't work. Anyone on " the boards " will tell you that.

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

you also answered my questions too. I also thought that if I started this diet.

" In school, at friends, and parties " , there would be lots of slips up, sneaking

food, Yes, many adults will feel bad and give it to them anyway. just like

when we say, I'm dieting to lose weight, a Friend would offer all the things you

can't have. it won't work for us. But sounds great for the people that can and

are doing the diet. Good Luck to Them. .

<embroidery4@...> wrote:

Sheri wrote:

Sorry so many questions, but my AS/ADHD son Noah is almost 5 and on

Adderall(20mg) and the side effects (sleeping issues, no appetite, tics etc.

..) are driving us NUTS!!

Sheri,

I would direct medication concerns with the MD who prescribed them and don;t

settle on the side effects. My son has no problems with his meds. The

beginning was trial and error. There should never be an adverse change in

the child's behavior if the medication is appropriate. This should be with

any medication for any medical reason unless you are told differently ( such

as chemo).

The diets are difficult to follow (for all family members), expensive and

there are NO substitutes. We could not do it for all of the above reasons

plus... At my DS age (12) he's on his own at school/Dad's house/ friends/

school dances with food choices. So... age is a big factor

My DD has a friend that has severe peanut allergies and she brings her own

birthday cake and snacks to the parties including school parties, bowling

parties, etc... Her Mom will not allow sleep overs until she is sure the

family understands and takes seriously her DD allergies and makes sure

someone knows how to use an epipen. This child understand clearly the

consequences if she doesn't follow her special diet. Your child will not

have an immediate severe reaction so they may sneak; many adults will feel

bad and give them the cakes, cookies, chips etc. that the other kids have.

With the GF/CF diet it is my understanding that you would need to follow the

same proto-call(bring your child's food) for it to work. Any slip-ups will

be the reason why it didn't work. Anyone on " the boards " will tell you that.

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

I would say the earlier the diet is started, the easier it is. It also

depends on whether your child is apt to throw a food strike should you

take away cheese and crackers. Many parents start the diet knowing

that they are taking away the only foods their kids eat.

I would say consistency is very important. This is not a diet to allow

infractions on. When all is done, you want to know that you really,

really tried it. There is a chance you will see no improvements.

There is also a chance the improvements you notice are not enough to

justify the diet.

As far as how expensive, it can be very expensive. If you get sucked

into all the convenient gluten/casein free products out there, you will

find yourself shelling out a lot of money (a gluten free pizza crust

can run you $5). If you stick to rice, vegetables, eggs, meat, nuts,

and fruit, however, this diet is not expensive.

I was lucky in that I started this diet at age 3, and that I had a

child with no food sensory issues. We had no trouble with it, and he

gained weight on it (however, he had diarrhea which is one of the signs

of a gluten problem). My other children are also on this diet as we

noticed improvements with their bowel movements, and my husband has

celiac disease so the kids might have inherited it.

> Hi, this diet sounds very interesting but I know I could never be

consistant with it. Did anyone try it for at least 3 months and didn't

see any results. If its all positive results maybe I will try it out.

Is this diet expensive? do I have to do a lot of special cooking?

would we see any weight changes? more/less/no weight changes? How

hard was it for anyone who tried it? did the children like it and ate

the same as before they started this diet?

[Guest guest]

It is hard in that I constantly have to make sure I have the

substitutes available. The boys are old enough to take charge of their

own diet, thank goodness. My children were malnourished when they got

gluten and had diarrhea and so take responsibility for what goes into

their bodies now. They are ages 7 and 6. It is my 7 year old that is

high functioning autistic. He says he gets foggy headed when he is

glutened. He does not like the sensation.

> Hi ,

> you also answered my questions too. I also thought that if I started

this diet. " In school, at friends, and parties " , there would be lots of

slips up, sneaking food, Yes, many adults will feel bad and give it to

them anyway. just like when we say, I'm dieting to lose weight, a

Friend would offer all the things you can't have. it won't work for

us. But sounds great for the people that can and are doing the diet.

Good Luck to Them. .

[Guest guest]

Our son went from trains to rescue heroes to chess to baseball to

Survivor to his current one of 'not being last'.

He did get the OC diagnosis at Rainbow Babies this past summer. He is

7.

year, we already have 80 or so! Does anyone have the same issues with

obsessions at almost 5? Just the thought of putting him on another med

or more than one at a time scares me! HELP!! Sheri

[Guest guest]

You can order a test kit from Great Plains Lab. Their website is

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home.htm

If you go down the list you will see a test kit for gluten/casein

peptide test. It's been several years since we did ours, but I believe

we had to have our nutritionist sign off on the form that comes with

the kit. We paid for the testing out of pocket, but I think it was

only around $100. It's been a few years so the price may have

changed. You don't pay anything when you order the test kit, you

actually pay when you send your sample back in to be tested.

Wendie

>

> Hi Everyone,

> I have been doing some research on this diet. (9 years old) was

> diagnosed with PDD,NOS 1 year ago. In doing the research,

doesn't

> have any of the symptoms that I read about. How do I know if this

will

> be beneficial to him, and where do I find a doctor who can tell me if

> he is allergic?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can order a test kit from Great Plains Lab. Their website is

http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home.htm

If you go down the list you will see a test kit for gluten/casein

peptide test. It's been several years since we did ours, but I believe

we had to have our nutritionist sign off on the form that comes with

the kit. We paid for the testing out of pocket, but I think it was

only around $100. It's been a few years so the price may have

changed. You don't pay anything when you order the test kit, you

actually pay when you send your sample back in to be tested.

Wendie

>

> Hi Everyone,

> I have been doing some research on this diet. (9 years old) was

> diagnosed with PDD,NOS 1 year ago. In doing the research,

doesn't

> have any of the symptoms that I read about. How do I know if this

will

> be beneficial to him, and where do I find a doctor who can tell me if

> he is allergic?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

I put my son on this diet by myself because everything

I read said trial is the best way to see. If you are

concerned about getting enough nutrients to your child

you can go to www.mypyramid.gov and set up an account.

I teach nutrition and wellness and my mother in law

is screaming at my husband that my child is not

getting needed vitamins and minerals and I am going to

make him retarded. I set up an account and input his

foods every day. My husband came to me a few days ago

because his mother got to him and he said the diet is

working but we are not getting him all his nutrients.

I said he is getting more than the RDA of ALL

nutrients. He asked how? a quick log in and print

out shut him right up - and his mother too.

--- godsmercysaidno <godsmercysaidno@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,

> I have been doing some research on this diet.

> (9 years old) was

> diagnosed with PDD,NOS 1 year ago. In doing the

> research, doesn't

> have any of the symptoms that I read about. How do I

> know if this will

> be beneficial to him, and where do I find a doctor

> who can tell me if

> he is allergic?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My 5 year old was on it strict for one year while her gut healed. She

finally gained some weight and made huge progress in expressive

language, socialization, and sensory issues. Then we started enzymes a

few months ago and have partially left the diet. She can have moderate

amounts of gluten with the enzymes but can only have occassional dairy

with double the enzymes. Twice at school she missed a dose and ate non-

gfcf foods and regressed severely. But with the enzymes and too much

dairy she just loses her self control and gets very rude and

demanding. Her teacher notes the huge difference. So after months of

playing around with her diet we are sticking to partial gfcf.

Jen

>

> Do any of you have your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to

> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should know

> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and I'm

> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my son!

>

> Jackie

>

[Guest guest]

THis is exactly what I was wondering if you could go PARTIAL!! My son

(AS) is very rude and demanding and gets very angry. Granted that has

improved with medication but there are still days that he is out of

control. I'm just grasping for anything that can help to settle the

imbalance in his body. He does have digestive problems in the fact

that he is always constipated and has to take miralax to help with

this.

Did you go to a special doctor that helped you to find a happy medium

with the foods and the enzymes?

Jackie

On Aug 3, 2007, at 4:31 PM, jennifer_thorson wrote:

> My 5 year old was on it strict for one year while her gut healed. She

> finally gained some weight and made huge progress in expressive

> language, socialization, and sensory issues. Then we started enzymes a

> few months ago and have partially left the diet. She can have moderate

> amounts of gluten with the enzymes but can only have occassional dairy

> with double the enzymes. Twice at school she missed a dose and ate

> non-

> gfcf foods and regressed severely. But with the enzymes and too much

> dairy she just loses her self control and gets very rude and

> demanding. Her teacher notes the huge difference. So after months of

> playing around with her diet we are sticking to partial gfcf.

>

> Jen

>

>

>>

>> Do any of you have your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to

>> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should know

>> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and I'm

>> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my son!

>>

>> Jackie

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My daughter was also constipated and on Miralax for years. She was

in the 5th percentile for weight and ate all the time. She mostly

ate pizza, cheese, milk, bread, candy, etc. I read about the diet

and thought it would be a cheaper route than other things I read

about. I met with a DAN Dr. (Defeat Autism Now) for one session to

go over the dietary changes and supplements recommended. I left with

a ton of info and didn't go back (very pricey). My daughter's

pediatrician did not think the diet worked but was impressed that she

was no longer constipated and started to gain weight. She was eating

a lot less than before but finally gained weight once she could

digest everything. It is important to supplement for the vitamins

and minerals missing in the diet. If there is real 'leaky' gut than

healing the gut is the number one priority and should require time

100% gfcf. Then foods can be reindroduced with enzymes slowly over

time.

Jen

> >>

> >> Do any of you have your ASD children on this diet? How hard is

it to

> >> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should

know

> >> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and

I'm

> >> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my son!

> >>

> >> Jackie

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

You'd really want to go strict (generally they say it takes 6-8 months

minimum for everything to heal), then see how he reacts if you add

back in products. If you won't go strict in the beginning, you won't

know if you're getting the full benefits.

There are LOTS of GFCF products out on the market these days, even at

regular grocery stories. You will want to make some foods, and there

is a series of books by The Gluten Free Gourmet that is pretty good

(just be careful, some of them use dairy, so you'd have to substitute).

If you go to the website for the Celiac organization (www.celiac.org)

they have lots of information too.

> >>

> >> Do any of you have your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to

> >> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should know

> >> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and I'm

> >> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my son!

> >>

> >> Jackie

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I don't but I do hear that with some it helps and some it doesn't. There are so many contributing factors in life itself that it's hard to see what the diet vs. something else may be causing changes. It's wroth a try. I just know I wouldn't be able to follow through with it. I can't even do that with myself! <hunebear3@...> wrote: Do any of you have your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to follow through with and what are some specifics that I should know about. I've been hearing and

reading a lot about it lately and I'm wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my son!Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie My 8 year old Aspie son has been on the GF/CF diet on and off for the past couple of months. When he is on it i notice that he is less anixous,hyper and does seem to communicate better. Also, he has a very bad gas problem and that is the biggest thing i noticed when he is on the diet his gas goes away. The reason why i say on and off is because i was testing to see if it was the diet that was helping or if it was just that he was changing. I would recommend this diet to anyone who is looking for an alternative to what they are doing now. I am lucky that my son has no issues eating the new foods that he now has to eat. Good luck and email me if you have any questions. Essenfeld <lessen@...> wrote:

I don't but I do hear that with some it helps and some it doesn't. There are so many contributing factors in life itself that it's hard to see what the diet vs. something else may be causing changes. It's wroth a try. I just know I wouldn't be able to follow through with it. I can't even do that with myself! <hunebear3comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Do any of you have your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to follow through with and what are some specifics that I should know about. I've been hearing and reading a

lot about it lately and I'm wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my son!Jackie

[Guest guest]

,

THanks so much! I am planning on discussing this with the

developmental Ped tomorrow when we go 's appt. She is THE

Autism Doctor in town and I " m sure that she will have great opinions

either for or against this diet. I am willing to try anything just to

see if I can get some results. We had another terrible meltdown on

Friday WHILE I was driving and he was throwing stuff and hitting his

sisters... all over stinkin webkins trading cards. He then continued

to throw the fit for about 30 minutes once we got home. Once it was

over he came out all happy and wanted to know who wanted to go ride

their bikes! Like nothing had ever happened!! This is the behavior I

am wanting to improve... but then again a simple med change could be

the answer! We shall see tomorrow!

Jackie

On Aug 4, 2007, at 7:26 PM, wrote:

> Hi Jackie

>   My 8 year old Aspie son has been on the GF/CF diet on and off for

> the past couple of months. When he is on it i notice that he is less

> anixous,hyper and does seem to communicate better. Also, he has a very

> bad gas problem and that is the biggest thing i noticed when he is on

> the diet his gas goes away. The reason why i say on and off is because

> i was testing to see if it was the diet that was helping or if it was

> just that he was changing. I would recommend this diet to anyone who

> is looking for an alternative to what they are doing now. I am lucky

> that my son has no issues eating the new foods that he now has to eat.

> Good luck and email me if you have any questions. <01.gif>

>

> Essenfeld <lessen@...> wrote:I don't but I do hear

> that with some it helps and some it doesn't. There are so many

> contributing factors in life itself that it's hard to see what the

> diet vs. something else may be causing changes. It's wroth a try. I

> just know I wouldn't be able to follow through with it. I can't even

> do that with myself!

>>

>> <hunebear3@...> wrote:Do any of you have

>> your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to

>>> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should know

>>> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and I'm

>>> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my son!

>>>

>>> Jackie

>>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Keep in mind that the pediatrician most likely will not recommend the

diet. I have only found the DAN Drs. to approve. There are no

double blind studies on the diet. At the same time you do not need

permission from your doctor to change your child['s diet. Be ready

to say you have done research and will get the missing nutrients from

other sources (calcium in greens) or multi-vitamin until your child

widens his diet.

Jen

Do any of you have

> >> your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to

> >>> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should

know

> >>> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and

I'm

> >>> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my

son!

> >>>

> >>> Jackie

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Believe it or not.. the doctor didn't shoot the diet down. She did ask

that if I was going to make the change to wait until we got the

medicine regulated. Which I am fine with for the time being. She's

(the doc) is trying to decide whether 's mood swings are caused

by Bi-polar so she is trying to get his medicine adjusted correctly

first.

Jackie

On Aug 7, 2007, at 3:18 PM, jennifer_thorson wrote:

> Keep in mind that the pediatrician most likely will not recommend the

> diet. I have only found the DAN Drs. to approve. There are no

> double blind studies on the diet. At the same time you do not need

> permission from your doctor to change your child['s diet. Be ready

> to say you have done research and will get the missing nutrients from

> other sources (calcium in greens) or multi-vitamin until your child

> widens his diet.

>

> Jen

>

> Do any of you have

>>>> your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to

>>>>> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should

> know

>>>>> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and

> I'm

>>>>> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my

> son!

>>>>>

>>>>> Jackie

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

After the medications are stable, try the diet. Then you can see if

the diet is causing improvements.

Jen

Do any of you have

> >>>> your ASD children on this diet? How hard is it to

> >>>>> follow through with and what are some specifics that I should

> > know

> >>>>> about. I've been hearing and reading a lot about it lately and

> > I'm

> >>>>> wondering if it would be something worth while to try for my

> > son!

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Jackie

> >>>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >