Elimination diet/bowel issues

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

Our fella tested positive to 70+ food allergies so our allergist has put him

on an elimination diet for the next three weeks. (We did both the skin test

and the blood test) All he can eat is chicken, rice, green grapes,

sweet potatoes and water for every meal. My concern has always been our

son's mushy stools and very high IGE levels. This is day 9 in our diet and

we are surprised that his stools are still mushy and sometimes runny. We are

beginning to wonder if this is stomach upset due to the meds Dr. G has him

on. (We always make sure he has food on his stomach first) Or we wonder if

this could be his body adjusting to the new diet. But my thought is that if

we are removing all the allergens then his stools should normalize by now.

Of course our allergist is skeptical of the protocol and is frankly too

arrogant to even consider it.

We are concerned and wondered if anyone could offer some insight.

Thanks,

Martha

[Guest guest]

Martha,

Here are a few thoughts I had...

Many of our kids don¹t process foods in a normal way... so even eliminating

allergic foods may not bring about a ³fix² for stools. You might want to

ask Dr. G about using the probiotic kyodophilus to improve the balance of

intestinal flora. Also, sweet potatoes are starchy and could theoretically

feed yeast, so if your child isn¹t on an antifungal that could be an issue

(or even if he is... depending on how much he¹s eating).

Regards,

Caroline G.

[Guest guest]

Caroline,

Thank you for this feedback. I have actually been thinking about

trying kyodophilus. I will definitely ask Dr. G about this. Do you buy this

probiotic from a specialty lab? I am wondering how much to give a 40lb

child. I have heard from another parent that it has to be a high

powered probiotic to be effective.

Our son is on an antifungal but it may very well be time to switch to

another one.

Thanks again for this feedback.

Martha

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> wrote:

>

>

> Martha,

>

> Here are a few thoughts I had...

>

> Many of our kids don¹t process foods in a normal way... so even eliminating

> allergic foods may not bring about a ³fix² for stools. You might want to

> ask Dr. G about using the probiotic kyodophilus to improve the balance of

> intestinal flora. Also, sweet potatoes are starchy and could theoretically

> feed yeast, so if your child isn¹t on an antifungal that could be an issue

> (or even if he is... depending on how much he¹s eating).

>

> Regards,

> Caroline G.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Martha,

I struggled with this exactly with my daughter. She did have good stools for

awhile after starting the antifungal and then the mushy stools came back. I

eliminated and eliminated and eventually I had to take my daughter off of her

drugs because she became either allergic to the additives of the drugs or the

drugs themselves. I dont know yet. It helped her stools to where she didnt

have diarrhea anymore.

Then I eliminated so many foods you could go crazy! That didnt work either. It

helped when I found an offending food but things still werent totally great.

Still had mushy stools. Finally her EM doc ordered a stool analysis to check to

see if she still had yeast, needed enzymes, or had dysbiosis or what.

The stool analysis came back and my daughter had no yeast at all but she did

have lots of other bacteria that were potentially causing inflammation in her

gut like Strep and some other ones I had never heard of before. He ordered

Therbiotic from Klaire Labs which is much much stronger than the Kyodophilus she

was on (her probiotic bacteria wasn't even showing up in the stool culture

test!). So far so good! Good poops for a month straight and that has never

happened before.

I hope this helps you, I went through what you did a few months ago and it helps

if someone else has a word of wisdom!

-

>

> Hello all,

> Our fella tested positive to 70+ food allergies so our allergist has put him

> on an elimination diet for the next three weeks. (We did both the skin test

> and the blood test) All he can eat is chicken, rice, green grapes,

> sweet potatoes and water for every meal. My concern has always been our

> son's mushy stools and very high IGE levels. This is day 9 in our diet and

> we are surprised that his stools are still mushy and sometimes runny. We are

> beginning to wonder if this is stomach upset due to the meds Dr. G has him

> on. (We always make sure he has food on his stomach first) Or we wonder if

> this could be his body adjusting to the new diet. But my thought is that if

> we are removing all the allergens then his stools should normalize by now.

> Of course our allergist is skeptical of the protocol and is frankly too

> arrogant to even consider it.

>

> We are concerned and wondered if anyone could offer some insight.

>

> Thanks,

> Martha

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son developed severe diarrhea from a parasite. Parasites are very common,

most of us carry at least one at any given time. There are some 1000

different ones, but tests for only 50 or so. Treating him for parasites

fixed the problem.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:27 PM

Subject: Re: Elimination diet/bowel issues

Martha,

I struggled with this exactly with my daughter. She did have good stools for

awhile after starting the antifungal and then the mushy stools came back. I

eliminated and eliminated and eventually I had to take my daughter off of

her drugs because she became either allergic to the additives of the drugs

or the drugs themselves. I dont know yet. It helped her stools to where she

didnt have diarrhea anymore.

Then I eliminated so many foods you could go crazy! That didnt work either.

It helped when I found an offending food but things still werent totally

great.

Still had mushy stools. Finally her EM doc ordered a stool analysis to check

to see if she still had yeast, needed enzymes, or had dysbiosis or what.

The stool analysis came back and my daughter had no yeast at all but she did

have lots of other bacteria that were potentially causing inflammation in

her gut like Strep and some other ones I had never heard of before. He

ordered Therbiotic from Klaire Labs which is much much stronger than the

Kyodophilus she was on (her probiotic bacteria wasn't even showing up in the

stool culture test!). So far so good! Good poops for a month straight and

that has never happened before.

I hope this helps you, I went through what you did a few months ago and it

helps if someone else has a word of wisdom!

-

>

> Hello all,

> Our fella tested positive to 70+ food allergies so our allergist has put

him

> on an elimination diet for the next three weeks. (We did both the skin

test

> and the blood test) All he can eat is chicken, rice, green grapes,

> sweet potatoes and water for every meal. My concern has always been our

> son's mushy stools and very high IGE levels. This is day 9 in our diet and

> we are surprised that his stools are still mushy and sometimes runny. We

are

> beginning to wonder if this is stomach upset due to the meds Dr. G has him

> on. (We always make sure he has food on his stomach first) Or we wonder if

> this could be his body adjusting to the new diet. But my thought is that

if

> we are removing all the allergens then his stools should normalize by now.

> Of course our allergist is skeptical of the protocol and is frankly

too

> arrogant to even consider it.

>

> We are concerned and wondered if anyone could offer some insight.

>

> Thanks,

> Martha

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kristy,

What did you use to get rid of the parasites?

Thanks,

Argie

On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Kristy Nardini wrote:

>

>

> My son developed severe diarrhea from a parasite. Parasites are very

> common,

> most of us carry at least one at any given time. There are some 1000

> different ones, but tests for only 50 or so. Treating him for

> parasites

> fixed the problem.

>

> Kristy

>

> From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:27 PM

>

> Subject: Re: Elimination diet/bowel issues

>

>

> Martha,

>

> I struggled with this exactly with my daughter. She did have good

> stools for

> awhile after starting the antifungal and then the mushy stools came

> back. I

> eliminated and eliminated and eventually I had to take my daughter

> off of

> her drugs because she became either allergic to the additives of the

> drugs

> or the drugs themselves. I dont know yet. It helped her stools to

> where she

> didnt have diarrhea anymore.

>

> Then I eliminated so many foods you could go crazy! That didnt work

> either.

> It helped when I found an offending food but things still werent

> totally

> great.

>

> Still had mushy stools. Finally her EM doc ordered a stool analysis

> to check

> to see if she still had yeast, needed enzymes, or had dysbiosis or

> what.

>

> The stool analysis came back and my daughter had no yeast at all but

> she did

> have lots of other bacteria that were potentially causing

> inflammation in

> her gut like Strep and some other ones I had never heard of before. He

> ordered Therbiotic from Klaire Labs which is much much stronger than

> the

> Kyodophilus she was on (her probiotic bacteria wasn't even showing

> up in the

> stool culture test!). So far so good! Good poops for a month

> straight and

> that has never happened before.

>

> I hope this helps you, I went through what you did a few months ago

> and it

> helps if someone else has a word of wisdom!

>

> -

>

>

> >

> > Hello all,

> > Our fella tested positive to 70+ food allergies so our allergist

> has put

> him

> > on an elimination diet for the next three weeks. (We did both the

> skin

> test

> > and the blood test) All he can eat is chicken, rice, green grapes,

> > sweet potatoes and water for every meal. My concern has always

> been our

> > son's mushy stools and very high IGE levels. This is day 9 in our

> diet and

> > we are surprised that his stools are still mushy and sometimes

> runny. We

> are

> > beginning to wonder if this is stomach upset due to the meds Dr. G

> has him

> > on. (We always make sure he has food on his stomach first) Or we

> wonder if

> > this could be his body adjusting to the new diet. But my thought

> is that

> if

> > we are removing all the allergens then his stools should normalize

> by now.

> > Of course our allergist is skeptical of the protocol and is

> frankly

> too

> > arrogant to even consider it.

> >

> > We are concerned and wondered if anyone could offer some insight.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Martha

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Homepathy.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Argie

Olivo

Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:58 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Elimination diet/bowel issues

Hi Kristy,

What did you use to get rid of the parasites?

Thanks,

Argie

On Jul 14, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Kristy Nardini wrote:

>

>

> My son developed severe diarrhea from a parasite. Parasites are very

> common,

> most of us carry at least one at any given time. There are some 1000

> different ones, but tests for only 50 or so. Treating him for

> parasites

> fixed the problem.

>

> Kristy

>

> From: <mailto:%40>

[mailto: <mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:27 PM

> <mailto:%40>

> Subject: Re: Elimination diet/bowel issues

>

>

> Martha,

>

> I struggled with this exactly with my daughter. She did have good

> stools for

> awhile after starting the antifungal and then the mushy stools came

> back. I

> eliminated and eliminated and eventually I had to take my daughter

> off of

> her drugs because she became either allergic to the additives of the

> drugs

> or the drugs themselves. I dont know yet. It helped her stools to

> where she

> didnt have diarrhea anymore.

>

> Then I eliminated so many foods you could go crazy! That didnt work

> either.

> It helped when I found an offending food but things still werent

> totally

> great.

>

> Still had mushy stools. Finally her EM doc ordered a stool analysis

> to check

> to see if she still had yeast, needed enzymes, or had dysbiosis or

> what.

>

> The stool analysis came back and my daughter had no yeast at all but

> she did

> have lots of other bacteria that were potentially causing

> inflammation in

> her gut like Strep and some other ones I had never heard of before. He

> ordered Therbiotic from Klaire Labs which is much much stronger than

> the

> Kyodophilus she was on (her probiotic bacteria wasn't even showing

> up in the

> stool culture test!). So far so good! Good poops for a month

> straight and

> that has never happened before.

>

> I hope this helps you, I went through what you did a few months ago

> and it

> helps if someone else has a word of wisdom!

>

> -

>

>

> >

> > Hello all,

> > Our fella tested positive to 70+ food allergies so our allergist

> has put

> him

> > on an elimination diet for the next three weeks. (We did both the

> skin

> test

> > and the blood test) All he can eat is chicken, rice, green grapes,

> > sweet potatoes and water for every meal. My concern has always

> been our

> > son's mushy stools and very high IGE levels. This is day 9 in our

> diet and

> > we are surprised that his stools are still mushy and sometimes

> runny. We

> are

> > beginning to wonder if this is stomach upset due to the meds Dr. G

> has him

> > on. (We always make sure he has food on his stomach first) Or we

> wonder if

> > this could be his body adjusting to the new diet. But my thought

> is that

> if

> > we are removing all the allergens then his stools should normalize

> by now.

> > Of course our allergist is skeptical of the protocol and is

> frankly

> too

> > arrogant to even consider it.

> >

> > We are concerned and wondered if anyone could offer some insight.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Martha

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

From my experience with Dr. G, he would not want you to do an

elimination diet at all. He would want you to submit a food diary

every week and help you with the diet issues himself. And he thinks

allergists are pretty much a waste of time.

Cheryl

~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com

~@midian42~

On Jul 4, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Martha Wood wrote:

>

>

> Hello all,

> Our fella tested positive to 70+ food allergies so our allergist has

> put him

> on an elimination diet for the next three weeks. (We did both the

> skin test

> and the blood test) All he can eat is chicken, rice, green grapes,

> sweet potatoes and water for every meal. My concern has always been

> our

> son's mushy stools and very high IGE levels. This is day 9 in our

> diet and

> we are surprised that his stools are still mushy and sometimes

> runny. We are

> beginning to wonder if this is stomach upset due to the meds Dr. G

> has him

> on. (We always make sure he has food on his stomach first) Or we

> wonder if

> this could be his body adjusting to the new diet. But my thought is

> that if

> we are removing all the allergens then his stools should normalize

> by now.

> Of course our allergist is skeptical of the protocol and is

> frankly too

> arrogant to even consider it.

>

> We are concerned and wondered if anyone could offer some insight.

>

> Thanks,

> Martha

>

>