Supplements

August 29, 2002

is it possible that your contact at Equazen can leak us parents

a hint? Remember when you ask to add " Pretty please with fish oil on

top "

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September 29, 2002

Hi Alison

We used to use this but stopped when they changed the labelling about toxic

heavy metals. Also as I got wiser (read reasearched heaps) I didn't want the

copper or the iron and I don't understand why the antimony and stuff is in

there. I know several adults that take it, usually with great response for 3

months or so and then it seemed to level out. It is MLM product but I don't

hold that against them. They do great toothpaste and mouthwash called

'Elegance' - nice name!

HTH

Mandi in UK

> Hi

>

> I wondered if anyone on the list has come across a multi-vitamin and

> mineral supplement called " Maximol " made by " Neways " and if so if you have

> any comments, good or bad, about this product. My son currently takes

> Super-Nu-Thera (without vitamins A and D) but we have been recommended to

> change to Maximol by a nutritionist. I have listed what is in Maximol

> below - are any of these not a good thing to give or the doses wrong? We

> are also about to start chelation using Andy's protocol to get rid of heavy

> metals including mercury, lead, antimony, tin, aluminium. So will be

> giving milk thistle, extra vitamin C etc as recommended.

>

> If this product is not such a good idea does anyone know of any other

> products that you think are good?

>

> The contents of Maximol are:

>

> Calcium Lactate 289mg

> Chromium Chloride 753mcg

> Copper Gluconate 1.19mg

> Ferrous Gluconate 5.55mg

> Magnesium Gluconate 436mg

> Manganese Gluconate 4.76mg

> Potassium Gluconate 141mg

> Sodium Molybdate 436mcg

> Sodium Selenate 200mcg

> Zinc Sulphate 1.59mg

>

> Biotin 39.623mcg

> Folate 79.251mcg

> Niacin 0.0008mg

> Pantothenic Acid 0.396mg

> Vitamin B1 (Thiamin) 0.277mg

> Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin) 0.396mg

> Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine hydrochloride) 0.317mg

> Vitamin B12 2.744mcg

> Vitamin D3 15.9mcg

>

> Enzymes:

> Amylases 0.159mg

> Lipases 0.159mg

> Proteases 0.159mg

>

> Amino Acids (quantity not specified)

> Alanine, arginine, aspartic acid, cystine, glutamic acid, glycine,

> histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, proline,

> serine, threonine, tyrosine,valine

>

> Trace Elements (quantity not specified)

> Antimony, barium, beryllium, bismuth, cerium, cesium, cobalt, dysprosium,

> erbium, europium, indium,iridium, lanthanum, lithium, lutetium, platinum,

> praseodymium, rhenium, rubidium, ruthenium, samarium, scandium, silicon,

> silver, sulfur, tantalum, tellurium, terbium, thallium, thorium, thulium,

> tungsten, vanadium, ytterbium, yttrium, zirconium

>

> Additional Ingredients:

> Boric acid, citric acid, corn syrup, fructose, fulvates, grape skin

> extract, moringa juice, pomegranate fruit extract, potassium benzoate,

> purified water (aqua), raspberry juice

>

> Many thanks to everyine for their comments.

>

> Alison

>

September 29, 2002

Thanks Mandi - the copper, iron and antimony were the immediate concerns for me.

Thanks for your comments (you must be on the computer very early in the

morning!)

Alison

Re: [ ] Supplements

Hi Alison

We used to use this but stopped when they changed the labelling about toxic

heavy metals. Also as I got wiser (read reasearched heaps) I didn't want the

copper or the iron and I don't understand why the antimony and stuff is in

there. I know several adults that take it, usually with great response for 3

months or so and then it seemed to level out. It is MLM product but I don't

hold that against them. They do great toothpaste and mouthwash called

'Elegance' - nice name!

HTH

Mandi in UK

> Hi

>

> I wondered if anyone on the list has come across a multi-vitamin and

> mineral supplement called " Maximol " made by " Neways " and if so if you have

> any comments, good or bad, about this product. >

March 14, 2003

Hi Tina

Welcome- I would follow the chelation supplement guide in the

paper on line at the Children's Biomedical Center of Utah Inc.

(cbcutah.com) called " Understanding Autism " by Jepson MD-- but

do give split dose of DMSA every 4 hours from this Chart.

Do read all the files at this group if you have not already.

I like to read about all the supplements and be able to look up

doses and have found the book " Prescription for Nutritional Healing "

by Balch and Balch very helpful over the years it has a section

about autism that I feel is right on.

My 2 cents Ann

June 9, 2003

--- In , " zoelle1995 " <rashikino@n...>

wrote:

> Hi,I have attempted to use brainchild supplements 3times now.My

> daughter reacts very stangely to it. She gets very emotional/very

> hyper and very vocal she is deaf so she just screams alot. Have any

> others reacted badly to this supplement?

Which one? It might be that she has a problem with one or more of the

ingredients. And so far as I remember, the one which is number 3

contains ALA.

Dana

June 9, 2003

Hi, She was on number 2..Any thoughts on anyother supplement...Is

there an issue with ALA ?? Thanks JULie

> > Hi,I have attempted to use brainchild supplements 3times now.My

> > daughter reacts very stangely to it. She gets very emotional/very

> > hyper and very vocal she is deaf so she just screams alot. Have

any

> > others reacted badly to this supplement?

>

> Which one? It might be that she has a problem with one or more of

the

> ingredients. And so far as I remember, the one which is number 3

> contains ALA.

>

> Dana

June 10, 2003

--- In , " zoelle1995 " <rashikino@n...>

wrote:

> Hi, She was on number 2..Any thoughts on anyother supplement...Is

> there an issue with ALA ?? Thanks JULie

Number 3 contains ALA, so you should not give it every day. But since

this is number 2, it does sound like your child does not tolerate

something about it. You can try reduced dose and see if that helps.

There are quite a few other supplements available, or you can do what

I do and pick and choose from my local health food store.

Dana

August 7, 2003

Hi Paola,

Got to the " Files " section (you'll see it in the box on the left)

and once into the Files section, go into " Andy-Index " and you should

find a whole list of posts on different chelating topics. Look for

the supplement topic and read on as there are very good messages

about how much supplement is needed per weight. Good luck and take

care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

--- In , " anio980 " <anio980@y...>

wrote:

> Hello

>

> I'm chelating my son with dmsa and i will add ALA 3 months after.

>

> I know that supplements are very important -B,C,E, selenium, zinc

> etc- but i don't know the amount of this element.

>

> How I can find this information?

>

> Or I can continue using all supplement at 100% RDA level.

>

> Sorry for my english

>

> Tank you

>

> Paola Fanelli

> Italy

August 8, 2003

This list is from Andy. I added a few things here and there.

Things to add first:

B complex (4 x day)

12.5-25 mg 4 times a day. Quarter a " b-50 " or " b-100 " tablet with a pill

cutter. If you give digestive enzymes, you may tinker with this dose – if

not this is fine.

Vit C (4 x day)

5-20 mg per pound per dose (not day) of any buffered form, e. g. sodium

ascorbate (100-250 mg vitamin C 4 times a day). Crunched up " gram 2 " tablets

from The Vitamin Shoppe has a bunch of other useful minerals in them.

Magnesium (4 x day)

-10 mg per lb, spread throughout day adjust if getting diarrhea. There are

several forms. Try the glycinate if aluminum is a problem.

Zinc (4 x day )

-1/4 to 1/2 mg per pound You may want to skip the night dose, it makes some

kids hyper.

Vitamin A (4 x day)

- 5 RDA's per day CLO is an OK source as are vitamin A supplements of any

other kind (I realize there is some belief that only CLO has the " right "

form of vitamin A, I don't have an opinion on this one way or the other). If

you use CLO, add the vitamin E soon if not right away. I use Allergy A. and

D in the 10,000 iu dose. I give one dose in am and one in pm.

Melantonin

if he/she has trouble sleeping. Not otherwise. (dosage?)

Good things to add after are:

E vitamin

500 IU per day

Selenium

Selenium is best taken in the selenomethionine form, and reasonable dosages

are 1-2 mcg per pound.

Flaxseed

or flax seed oil mixed in food (but not cooked). 1-3 tbsp a day. This is

less important if you are using CLO as your source of vitamin A, especially

if you use at least 25,000 IU of A from CLO. If he has dry skin then the

flax seed or oil is more important than if it is otherwise.

Milk Thistle (4 x day)

1/4-1 capsule (what does that equal in mg?)~20-80mg

Molybdenum

5-20 mcg/lb. Important if he has " sulfation " issues in terms of being

sensitive to the kinds of things the Feingold diet excludes (if people

babble on about " phenols " and " salicylates " and tell you foods to exclude

that help, then this is important).

Mixed carotenes (Twinlabs and Vitamin Shoppe carotenoid complex)

[ ] Re: Supplements

Hi Paola,

Got to the " Files " section (you'll see it in the box on the left)

and once into the Files section, go into " Andy-Index " and you should

find a whole list of posts on different chelating topics. Look for

the supplement topic and read on as there are very good messages

about how much supplement is needed per weight. Good luck and take

care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA

--- In , " anio980 " <anio980@y...>

wrote:

> Hello

>

> I'm chelating my son with dmsa and i will add ALA 3 months after.

>

> I know that supplements are very important -B,C,E, selenium, zinc

> etc- but i don't know the amount of this element.

>

> How I can find this information?

>

> Or I can continue using all supplement at 100% RDA level.

>

> Sorry for my english

>

> Tank you

>

> Paola Fanelli

> Italy

August 17, 2003

In a message dated 17/08/2003 20:28:18 GMT Daylight Time, JFerris@...

writes:

> Also if I am to take one or two supplements to heal leaky gut while I

> still have amalgams, what should I try?

>

My favourites would be Petizyde Enzyme and No Fenol Enzyme,

Pep to digest food and release more nutrients to aid healing

aids healing as of and in itself (go for between meals at this stage)

reduces inflammation

No Fenol to reduce poorly digested carbs and fibres and fight the invitable

yeast

for rmore info

<A HREF= " www.houstonni.com " >www.houstonni.com</A>

<A HREF= " www.enzymestuff.com " >www.enzymestuff.com</A>

HTH

Mandi in UK

August 17, 2003

I am using Goatein from Garden of Life for my son.

It has natural vanilla flavor, though.

My cow milk allergic (IgE--hives, eczema, runny nose type

symptoms) can tolerate it just fine and it seems as though

he is finally putting on some weight.

[ ] supplements

> Can anyone recommend a protein supplement (with no flavourings added)?

>

> Also if I am to take one or two supplements to heal leaky gut while I

> still have amalgams, what should I try?

>

> Thank you,

> --

>

> Health * Peace * Love * 4Ever

>

> @..@

> (----)

> ( >__< ) Ribbit

>

> =======================================================

>

August 17, 2003

I don't know about protein supp's but for leaky gut, some people are

trying Molo-Cure and there is a board for it. If you cannot

find the address, email me privately. It's a bit pricey and I

haven't tried it with my son but some people are happy with it. It's

hard to say about just one or two supp's because there are different

ones that do different things... some things you could look into are:

probiotics

colostrum

l-glutamine

lauricidin/monolaurin

magnesium

digestive enzymes

W

--- In , jules ferris <JFerris@h...>

wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a protein supplement (with no flavourings

added)?

>

> Also if I am to take one or two supplements to heal leaky gut while

I

> still have amalgams, what should I try?

August 17, 2003

thanks - pricey is no go for me right now. I do take probiotics

occasionally, and digestive enzymes and magnesium - so i guess i've

got a good start.

julie

>I don't know about protein supp's but for leaky gut, some people are

>trying Molo-Cure and there is a board for it. If you cannot

>find the address, email me privately. It's a bit pricey and I

>haven't tried it with my son but some people are happy with it. It's

>hard to say about just one or two supp's because there are different

>ones that do different things... some things you could look into are:

>probiotics

>colostrum

>l-glutamine

>lauricidin/monolaurin

>magnesium

>digestive enzymes

>

>W

>

>--- In , jules ferris <JFerris@h...>

>wrote:

>> Can anyone recommend a protein supplement (with no flavourings

>added)?

>>

>> Also if I am to take one or two supplements to heal leaky gut while

>I

>> still have amalgams, what should I try?

>

>=======================================================

>

August 17, 2003

You might also try lots of juice from black cherry concentrate, or

Pycnogenol. Though I haven't tried Pyc, I have tried cherries, and

they're very healing, probably due to their high anthocyanin content.

The best way to take the cherry juice is first thing in the morning,

without the accompaniment of other foods, except maybe some plain

yogurt.

> In a message dated 17/08/2003 20:28:18 GMT Daylight Time,

JFerris@h...

> writes:

>

> > Also if I am to take one or two supplements to heal leaky gut

while I

> > still have amalgams, what should I try?

> >

>

> My favourites would be Petizyde Enzyme and No Fenol Enzyme,

> Pep to digest food and release more nutrients to aid healing

> aids healing as of and in itself (go for between meals at this

stage)

> reduces inflammation

> No Fenol to reduce poorly digested carbs and fibres and fight the

invitable

> yeast

>

October 1, 2003

He's in Pennsylvania. Pittsburgh to be exact. :-)

Toni

[ ] supplements

Toni,

What state is this pediatric neurologist in? Sounds great!

Carol

September 6, 2005

Multi-Level-Marketing, Are you a distributor for them?

rheumatic Supplements

Hi Everyone:

I am still a bit of a novice with computers and my message was gone

before I could do some editing as I wanted to give you more information.

The supplements that I am taking are called USANA Health Science. These

are very different from any other as they are manufactured according to

pharmaceutical Good Manufacturing Practices and listed in the 2004

edition of the Physician's Desk Reference book.

I personally take what is called the Health Pack, Calcium, Procossa

(glucosamine) Bio3 - Omega 3 & 6 oils and Proflavanol which is grapeseed

which is 100% more powerful than vitamin C as it contains resveratrol

which is the building block for the immune system. I did some testing

by stopping them three times (the real ) and each time some of the

RA symptoms would come back so I decided - no more playing around - I

will not stop them ever again.

They are not sold in stores but are bought on-line - you may check their

website at www.usana.com and you will see that there is a health

questionnaire that will enable you to decide what would be more

appropriate for you. USANA sells their products via associates. There

are two components to the company, one is the selling of the products

and the business side for people who are interested in owing their own

home business and help pay for their products. If you only wish to buy

the products, that is also quite appropriate as you can become a

preferred customer and benefit from reduce costs for the supplements.

If you have any questions I will be happy to answer them. I can only

reiterate what I said before I A FREE OF PAIN - I HAVE MY LIFE BACK AND

I OWE IT TO USANA.

Have a good day - I never gave up hope - Love you all Mado

September 6, 2005

Hi everyone, I don't post very often but read most of the posts that come

through. My daughter who has had RA since she was 10 (diagnosed 2001) took

Usana for many years and did very well on it. I think particularly the

Proflavanol was wonderful. It was recommended to me back in 2001 by

someone who had had RA for 17 odd years and tried all sorts and felt that

Usana had given him his life back and he was walking testament to it. We

stopped using it recently to adopt a more targeted approach to

supplementation based on some antioxidant level tests and food allergy tests

and are focussing more on diet than supplementation because is

severly underweight but I know in the future it will be something we go back

to. Yes, it is multi level marketing but has the backing of a strong

pharmaceutical-grade research system. I have never sold it myself but in

hindsight probably should have because we went through so much of it!!!

Good health to all,

Caroline Stronge.

rheumatic Supplements

> Hi Everyone:

>

> I am still a bit of a novice with computers and my message was gone before

> I could do some editing as I wanted to give you more information. The

> supplements that I am taking are called USANA Health Science. These are

> very different from any other as they are manufactured according to

> pharmaceutical Good Manufacturing Practices and listed in the 2004 edition

> of the Physician's Desk Reference book.

>

> I personally take what is called the Health Pack, Calcium, Procossa

> (glucosamine) Bio3 - Omega 3 & 6 oils and Proflavanol which is grapeseed

> which is 100% more powerful than vitamin C as it contains resveratrol

> which is the building block for the immune system. I did some testing by

> stopping them three times (the real ) and each time some of the RA

> symptoms would come back so I decided - no more playing around - I will

> not stop them ever again.

>

> They are not sold in stores but are bought on-line - you may check their

> website at www.usana.com and you will see that there is a health

> questionnaire that will enable you to decide what would be more

> appropriate for you. USANA sells their products via associates. There

> are two components to the company, one is the selling of the products and

> the business side for people who are interested in owing their own home

> business and help pay for their products. If you only wish to buy the

> products, that is also quite appropriate as you can become a preferred

> customer and benefit from reduce costs for the supplements.

>

> If you have any questions I will be happy to answer them. I can only

> reiterate what I said before I A FREE OF PAIN - I HAVE MY LIFE BACK AND I

> OWE IT TO USANA.

>

> Have a good day - I never gave up hope - Love you all Mado

>

September 7, 2005

Hi Annie, I don't monitor 's saliva pH but would be interested in

knowing more about that?

Thanks, Caroline.