RE: Re: Celexa increase; need input

[Guest guest]

We had irritability with Noah when we adjusted SSRIs, but on Wellbutrin, it was

off the charts. However, this turned out to be a great med for him although it

took about a week for him to settle down. We saw little improvements every day

in behavior and irritability. Are you seeing that with ? With Elijah and

Celexa, 1/4 tab increase sent him over the edge and Dr. G switched us to Zoloft.

He's doing great with it.

I'm sure the above didn't help one bit. Sorry. That seems to be the way it is

with SSRIs. I would definitely discuss with Dr. G, especially if it's a reaction

you haven't seen before. Do you think starting school could be playing into this

as well? New school?

All the best,

Robyn

From: jinyang061629 <yanglou@...>

Subject: Re: Celexa increase; need input

Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:47 PM

 

Donna,

I remember we had melt down problem with one of SSRI two years ago. I talked Dr.

G into change.

I remember it that it was so predictable that have melt down two times a

week, and I knew it was SSRI, after switch, the melt down went away totally.

However, he still confrantational, and other problem.

did not do well on any of the SSRI. Even on the best of them, he was act

like Zombie, with no personality, compusive, and no desire. Read what Serotonin

suppose to do to a person, it really did not show with the SSRI at all.

>

> Hi all, I've got a question...

>

> Three days ago we raised 's dose of Celexa for the first time in a year.

Of course, it's a VERY small increase, as is always the case with the SSRI.

HOWEVER...all day today we have been treated to bouts of hysterical laughter

alternating with sudden tears of frustration over small things. While doing

some math homework, he had a full-blown meltdown where he was completely

inconsolable. And this is after only *three* days at the new dose.

>

> I know that there is an expected adjustment period where the kiddo is " off "

due to the increase of oxygen flowing to the brain...but I don't remember

anything quite like this. I'm planning to call Dr. G's office on Monday just to

let them know what's going on, but I'm curious as to whether other kids had

initial effects like this and then things settled down.

>

> TIA,

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

With my son's last med change and subsequent increase on the new one, we saw

stimming 90+% of the day. He was driving me nuts! Then I realized he had

limited his food choices even further, to pretty much 3 things. I removed

those 3 foods and everything got much better. The new SSRI turned out to be

a really good thing, even though we were ready to abandon it and go back to

the previous one.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robyn

& Greg Coggins

Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:43 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Celexa increase; need input

We had irritability with Noah when we adjusted SSRIs, but on Wellbutrin, it

was off the charts. However, this turned out to be a great med for him

although it took about a week for him to settle down. We saw little

improvements every day in behavior and irritability. Are you seeing that

with ? With Elijah and Celexa, 1/4 tab increase sent him over the edge

and Dr. G switched us to Zoloft. He's doing great with it.

I'm sure the above didn't help one bit. Sorry. That seems to be the way it

is with SSRIs. I would definitely discuss with Dr. G, especially if it's a

reaction you haven't seen before. Do you think starting school could be

playing into this as well? New school?

All the best,

Robyn

From: jinyang061629 <yanglou@... <mailto:yanglou%40comcast.net> >

Subject: Re: Celexa increase; need input

<mailto:%40>

Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:47 PM

Donna,

I remember we had melt down problem with one of SSRI two years ago. I talked

Dr. G into change.

I remember it that it was so predictable that have melt down two times

a week, and I knew it was SSRI, after switch, the melt down went away

totally. However, he still confrantational, and other problem.

did not do well on any of the SSRI. Even on the best of them, he was

act like Zombie, with no personality, compusive, and no desire. Read what

Serotonin suppose to do to a person, it really did not show with the SSRI at

all.

>

> Hi all, I've got a question...

>

> Three days ago we raised 's dose of Celexa for the first time in a

year. Of course, it's a VERY small increase, as is always the case with the

SSRI. HOWEVER...all day today we have been treated to bouts of hysterical

laughter alternating with sudden tears of frustration over small things.

While doing some math homework, he had a full-blown meltdown where he was

completely inconsolable. And this is after only *three* days at the new

dose.

>

> I know that there is an expected adjustment period where the kiddo is

" off " due to the increase of oxygen flowing to the brain...but I don't

remember anything quite like this. I'm planning to call Dr. G's office on

Monday just to let them know what's going on, but I'm curious as to whether

other kids had initial effects like this and then things settled down.

>

> TIA,

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Kristy

What foods did he remove?

Bill

From: jinyang061629 <yangloucomcast (DOT) net <mailto:yanglou% 40comcast. net> >

Subject: Re: Celexa increase; need input

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:47 PM

Donna,

I remember we had melt down problem with one of SSRI two years ago. I talked

Dr. G into change.

I remember it that it was so predictable that have melt down two times

a week, and I knew it was SSRI, after switch, the melt down went away

totally. However, he still confrantational, and other problem.

did not do well on any of the SSRI. Even on the best of them, he was

act like Zombie, with no personality, compusive, and no desire. Read what

Serotonin suppose to do to a person, it really did not show with the SSRI at

all.

>

> Hi all, I've got a question...

>

> Three days ago we raised 's dose of Celexa for the first time in a

year. Of course, it's a VERY small increase, as is always the case with the

SSRI. HOWEVER...all day today we have been treated to bouts of hysterical

laughter alternating with sudden tears of frustration over small things.

While doing some math homework, he had a full-blown meltdown where he was

completely inconsolable. And this is after only *three* days at the new

dose.

>

> I know that there is an expected adjustment period where the kiddo is

" off " due to the increase of oxygen flowing to the brain...but I don't

remember anything quite like this. I'm planning to call Dr. G's office on

Monday just to let them know what's going on, but I'm curious as to whether

other kids had initial effects like this and then things settled down.

>

> TIA,

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

I removed peanut butter, corn (popcorn) and French fries. (Great diet, huh?)

BTW, my kids and I have had a lot of problems with corn. It's not often

mentioned as a top allergen/irritant, but I remember reading somewhere it's

in the top 10.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bill

klimas

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:16 AM

Subject: RE: Re: Celexa increase; need input

Kristy

What foods did he remove?

Bill

From: jinyang061629 <yangloucomcast (DOT) net <mailto:yanglou% 40comcast. net> >

Subject: Re: Celexa increase; need input

groups (DOT) com <mailto:% 40groups. com>

Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:47 PM

Donna,

I remember we had melt down problem with one of SSRI two years ago. I talked

Dr. G into change.

I remember it that it was so predictable that have melt down two times

a week, and I knew it was SSRI, after switch, the melt down went away

totally. However, he still confrantational, and other problem.

did not do well on any of the SSRI. Even on the best of them, he was

act like Zombie, with no personality, compusive, and no desire. Read what

Serotonin suppose to do to a person, it really did not show with the SSRI at

all.

>

> Hi all, I've got a question...

>

> Three days ago we raised 's dose of Celexa for the first time in a

year. Of course, it's a VERY small increase, as is always the case with the

SSRI. HOWEVER...all day today we have been treated to bouts of hysterical

laughter alternating with sudden tears of frustration over small things.

While doing some math homework, he had a full-blown meltdown where he was

completely inconsolable. And this is after only *three* days at the new

dose.

>

> I know that there is an expected adjustment period where the kiddo is

" off " due to the increase of oxygen flowing to the brain...but I don't

remember anything quite like this. I'm planning to call Dr. G's office on

Monday just to let them know what's going on, but I'm curious as to whether

other kids had initial effects like this and then things settled down.

>

> TIA,

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

It only took us one week into school before cold/flu symptoms hit the house.

was out for two half days last week. I hope he feels better.

all the best,

Robyn

From: donnaaron@... <donnaaron@...>

Subject: Re: Celexa increase; need input

Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 12:44 PM

 

Hey Robyn,

Guess what? Looks like I can't blame the behavior on the meds at all; it turns

out that is sick! I feel like I should have guessed that he wasn't

feeling well; nearly every year at the beginning of school, he catches

something. But making a med change at the same time can make it so confusing!

He finally told us at dinner last night that his throat hurt -- which is a first

in and of itself. Usually he doesn't say anything, even if I ask, and I end up

not knowing for sure (although often I *suspect* something's up) until he's been

sick for a few days. So, for now...never mind.

Whoever said parenting was easy should seriously be raising a kid!

Thanks again!

Donna

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year. Of course, it's a VERY small increase, as is always the case with the

SSRI. HOWEVER...all day today we have been treated to bouts of hysterical

laughter alternating with sudden tears of frustration over small things. While

doing some math homework, he had a full-blown meltdown where he was completely

inconsolable. And this is after only *three* days at the new dose.

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>

> > I know that there is an expected adjustment period where the kiddo is " off "

due to the increase of oxygen flowing to the brain...but I don't remember

anything quite like this. I'm planning to call Dr. G's office on Monday just to

let them know what's going on, but I'm curious as to whether other kids had

initial effects like this and then things settled down.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

I told him those foods would give him a boo-boo tummy, and that Dr. G said

he couldn't have them anymore. Then I gave him choices from what he could

have, and he was fine with it.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

newleaflady

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:00 PM

Subject: Re: Celexa increase; need input

Hi, Kristy, I was wondering, if he was down to basically 3 foods, and you

eliminated them, what did he start eating and how did he react to the

removal of his favorites? I can't imagine my son taking it calmly if I

removed his 3 favorite things.

Carol

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>

> > Hi all, I've got a question...

>

> >

>

> > Three days ago we raised 's dose of Celexa for the first time in a

>

> year. Of course, it's a VERY small increase, as is always the case with

the

>

> SSRI. HOWEVER...all day today we have been treated to bouts of hysterical

>

> laughter alternating with sudden tears of frustration over small things.

>

> While doing some math homework, he had a full-blown meltdown where he was

>

> completely inconsolable. And this is after only *three* days at the new

>

> dose.

>

> >

>

> > I know that there is an expected adjustment period where the kiddo is

>

> " off " due to the increase of oxygen flowing to the brain...but I don't

>

> remember anything quite like this. I'm planning to call Dr. G's office on

>

> Monday just to let them know what's going on, but I'm curious as to

whether

>

> other kids had initial effects like this and then things settled down.

>

> >

>

> > TIA,

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> > Donna

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[Guest guest]

When I first put my child on the GFCF diet she was not happy.  Everything that

she ate was now off limits not to mention I am not sure if she had eaten a piece

of meat in her life prior to that.  To say that it was not easy would be an

understatement.  However I did not back down.  When I fixed her plate I asked my

self if what I was feeding her was helping or harming her brain.  Meals were a

nightmare for about a week and in between was even worse.  She cried and cried

but I held firm.  I knew that her brain was what mattered not her tantrums which

were impressive.  I started each meal with protein.  If she ate her protein she

was given a vegetable and if she ate that she was given a small amount of

starch.  When she gobbled that up and wanted more we went back to the vegetables

and protein.  The first 3 days she ate nothing.  She drank plenty of water so I

wasn't terribly worried although she was so thin at the time that she really

could

not afford to lose weight. After 3 days she began eating and eating and

eating.  She tried nearly everything that I put on her plate just to get that

starchy food that she knew would follow.  Here we are 3 years later and my child

eats everything.  If i tell her that something will give her a belly ache she

does not eat it.  She is happy with her veggies, protein and an occasional

fruit.  To her a snack is nuts, organic tomato sticks, raw veggies or even

meatballs.  Candy is not something that she craves, but she does love her

coconut ice cream but she only has a small bowl about once a month as a special

treat.  has grown into a normally sized 7 year old girl who is lean and

muscular and above all her brain is much more healthy not to mention her gut and

immune system.  The diet is tough in the beginning but it does get easier and

when you see the improvements from following it to a T you will realize that it

is worth it.  After all

what price can you put on a healthy child?  Sheri

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Celexa increase; need input

Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 2:17 AM

 

Hi Carol,

I told him those foods would give him a boo-boo tummy, and that Dr. G said

he couldn't have them anymore. Then I gave him choices from what he could

have, and he was fine with it.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of

newleaflady

Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 9:00 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Celexa increase; need input

Hi, Kristy, I was wondering, if he was down to basically 3 foods, and you

eliminated them, what did he start eating and how did he react to the

removal of his favorites? I can't imagine my son taking it calmly if I

removed his 3 favorite things.

Carol

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> > Hi all, I've got a question...

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> > Three days ago we raised 's dose of Celexa for the first time in a

>

> year. Of course, it's a VERY small increase, as is always the case with

the

>

> SSRI. HOWEVER...all day today we have been treated to bouts of hysterical

>

> laughter alternating with sudden tears of frustration over small things.

>

> While doing some math homework, he had a full-blown meltdown where he was

>

> completely inconsolable. And this is after only *three* days at the new

>

> dose.

>

> >

>

> > I know that there is an expected adjustment period where the kiddo is

>

> " off " due to the increase of oxygen flowing to the brain...but I don't

>

> remember anything quite like this. I'm planning to call Dr. G's office on

>

> Monday just to let them know what's going on, but I'm curious as to

whether

>

> other kids had initial effects like this and then things settled down.

>

> >

>

> > TIA,

>

> >

>

> > Donna

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