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I have the same questions as you, . It's counter intuitive from a

wholesome food perspective! Does anyone know the answer to this?

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Question about the diet portion of

Hi all,

My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about 5 years. He

has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out on that, and I

know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was looking at the

diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does that mean no rice,

buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure what is meant by

whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at breakfast, bread,

JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that because it is so

processed that they will less likely react to what is in there? I have been

working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to its natural form

so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what the premise is.

Thanks so much,

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I was the same way regarding diet until being introduced to the protocol.

My most severely affected son  was GFCF, lots of whole grains, etc. What I

didn't realize is that his body had a hard time breaking down whole grains and

would " set off " his immune system. We started the recommended diet about four

months before seeing Dr. Goldberg and saw improvement in a few weeks. When we

did food allergy testing, I was shocked to discover tht some of the alternative

grains I was giving him seemed to set him off worse than gluten. When my other

sons started the diet, we saw a lot of gastro improvements and my older

son's eczema, which he'd had for years, went away.

HTH,

Robyn

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Subject: Question about the diet portion of

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 9:20 AM

 

Hi all,

My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about 5 years. He

has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out on that, and I

know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was looking at the

diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does that mean no rice,

buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure what is meant by

whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at breakfast, bread,

JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that because it is so

processed that they will less likely react to what is in there? I have been

working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to its natural form

so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what the premise is.

Thanks so much,

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I just met with Dr. G yesterday but have been reading for a long time. So,

forgive me, I am a newbie with him and but have been following to the

best that I can before seeing him. I¹ve been to many doctors for my son ­

and Dr. G is the first one that actually wants to help and not just do

diagnostics ­ what a treasure!

After our discussion, the more processed the Œbad¹ foods are the easier it

will be for them to digest it and the less likely there will be an allergic

reaction. I don¹t think he is a proponent of processed foods but, for a

sandwich, regular white bread that is more processed will be less likely to

cause an activation of the GI tract and activate an immune reaction.

Just my .02 on this one as I had a really hard time with this too. But, I

did give an example to him about something that caused an issue with my son

(making him extra protein drinks to get more of that into him) and after our

discussion, it made sense to me that the drink that caused him issues

because it was not hydrolyzed was the reason. He does okay with Elacare

which is hydrolyzed (more broken down) and after our discussion ­ it made

more sense as to why it was easier on his system ­ not necessarily better

for him nutritionally. While, I do give my son the most wholesome food that

I can ­ I now understand why certain things that might likely cause a

reaction would be better if it is more Œprocessed¹.

HTH,

Laureen

On 8/26/09 11:59 AM, " ssaturnino@... " <ssaturnino@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> I have the same questions as you, . It's counter intuitive from a

> wholesome food perspective! Does anyone know the answer to this?

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

> Question about the diet portion of

>

> Hi all,

> My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about 5 years. He

> has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out on that, and

> I know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was looking at

> the diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does that mean no

> rice, buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure what is

> meant by whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

> What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at breakfast, bread,

> JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that because it is

> so processed that they will less likely react to what is in there? I have

> been working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to its natural

> form so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what the premise

> is.

> Thanks so much,

>

>

>

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Ideally, “the diet” the way I understand it means our kids would eat a

portion of protein and fresh vegetables for most of their meals. Carbs of

any kind are to be limited.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Laureen Forman

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:29 AM

Subject: Re: Question about the diet portion of

I just met with Dr. G yesterday but have been reading for a long time. So,

forgive me, I am a newbie with him and but have been following to the

best that I can before seeing him. I¹ve been to many doctors for my son ­

and Dr. G is the first one that actually wants to help and not just do

diagnostics ­ what a treasure!

After our discussion, the more processed the Œbad¹ foods are the easier it

will be for them to digest it and the less likely there will be an allergic

reaction. I don¹t think he is a proponent of processed foods but, for a

sandwich, regular white bread that is more processed will be less likely to

cause an activation of the GI tract and activate an immune reaction.

Just my .02 on this one as I had a really hard time with this too. But, I

did give an example to him about something that caused an issue with my son

(making him extra protein drinks to get more of that into him) and after our

discussion, it made sense to me that the drink that caused him issues

because it was not hydrolyzed was the reason. He does okay with Elacare

which is hydrolyzed (more broken down) and after our discussion ­ it made

more sense as to why it was easier on his system ­ not necessarily better

for him nutritionally. While, I do give my son the most wholesome food that

I can ­ I now understand why certain things that might likely cause a

reaction would be better if it is more Œprocessed¹.

HTH,

Laureen

On 8/26/09 11:59 AM, " ssaturnino@... <mailto:ssaturnino%40> "

<ssaturnino@... <mailto:ssaturnino%40> > wrote:

>

>

>

>

> I have the same questions as you, . It's counter intuitive from a

> wholesome food perspective! Does anyone know the answer to this?

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

> Question about the diet portion of

>

> Hi all,

> My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about 5 years.

He

> has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out on that,

and

> I know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was looking

at

> the diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does that mean

no

> rice, buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure what is

> meant by whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

> What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at breakfast,

bread,

> JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that because it

is

> so processed that they will less likely react to what is in there? I have

> been working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to its

natural

> form so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what the

premise

> is.

> Thanks so much,

>

>

>

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While I know not using whole grains is counter to most current thinking on

nutrition, it really does make sense when put in context. My oldest son suffered

for years with severe eczema. Before he even began seeing Dr. G, we put him on

the diet. His eczema improved dramatically over the course of two weeks.

The diet did more for him than an RX. I began feeding my kids whole grain breads

from the time they could eat them, and it was one of the worst things for them.

My husband who has diverticulitis and other gastro issues improved immensely by

following the diet as well. All of my boys' behaviors and general overall health

are closely linked to EOS levels. Inflammation in the digestive tract can be

caused by a lot of these foods, and if that's happening, your child's ability to

properly absorb nutrients is compromised. In addition, there are other ways to

get high quality fiber into your child, namely limited fruits and lots of

veggies. We're working

on this.

HTH,

Robyn

________________________________

From: Laureen Forman <lforman@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:29:20 AM

Subject: Re: Question about the diet portion of

I just met with Dr. G yesterday but have been reading for a long time. So,

forgive me, I am a newbie with him and but have been following to the

best that I can before seeing him. I¹ve been to many doctors for my son ­

and Dr. G is the first one that actually wants to help and not just do

diagnostics ­ what a treasure!

After our discussion, the more processed the Œbad¹ foods are the easier it

will be for them to digest it and the less likely there will be an allergic

reaction. I don¹t think he is a proponent of processed foods but, for a

sandwich, regular white bread that is more processed will be less likely to

cause an activation of the GI tract and activate an immune reaction.

Just my .02 on this one as I had a really hard time with this too. But, I

did give an example to him about something that caused an issue with my son

(making him extra protein drinks to get more of that into him) and after our

discussion, it made sense to me that the drink that caused him issues

because it was not hydrolyzed was the reason. He does okay with Elacare

which is hydrolyzed (more broken down) and after our discussion ­ it made

more sense as to why it was easier on his system ­ not necessarily better

for him nutritionally. While, I do give my son the most wholesome food that

I can ­ I now understand why certain things that might likely cause a

reaction would be better if it is more Œprocessed¹.

HTH,

Laureen

On 8/26/09 11:59 AM, " ssaturnino (DOT) com " <ssaturnino (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> I have the same questions as you, . It's counter intuitive from a

> wholesome food perspective! Does anyone know the answer to this?

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

> Question about the diet portion of

>

> Hi all,

> My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about 5 years. He

> has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out on that, and

> I know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was looking at

> the diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does that mean no

> rice, buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure what is

> meant by whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

> What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at breakfast, bread,

> JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that because it is

> so processed that they will less likely react to what is in there? I have

> been working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to its natural

> form so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what the premise

> is.

> Thanks so much,

>

>

>

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Well said Robyn!

On Sep 19, 2009, at 12:34 PM, Robyn & Greg Coggins wrote:

> While I know not using whole grains is counter to most current

> thinking on nutrition, it really does make sense when put in

> context. My oldest son suffered for years with severe eczema. Before

> he even began seeing Dr. G, we put him on the diet. His eczema

> improved dramatically over the course of two weeks. The diet did

> more for him than an RX. I began feeding my kids whole grain breads

> from the time they could eat them, and it was one of the worst

> things for them. My husband who has diverticulitis and other gastro

> issues improved immensely by following the diet as well. All of my

> boys' behaviors and general overall health are closely linked to EOS

> levels. Inflammation in the digestive tract can be caused by a lot

> of these foods, and if that's happening, your child's ability to

> properly absorb nutrients is compromised. In addition, there are

> other ways to get high quality fiber into your child, namely limited

> fruits and lots of veggies. We're working

> on this.

>

> HTH,

>

> Robyn

>

> ________________________________

> From: Laureen Forman <lforman@...>

>

> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:29:20 AM

> Subject: Re: Question about the diet portion of

>

> I just met with Dr. G yesterday but have been reading for a long

> time. So,

> forgive me, I am a newbie with him and but have been following

> to the

> best that I can before seeing him. I¹ve been to many doctors for my

> son

> and Dr. G is the first one that actually wants to help and not just do

> diagnostics what a treasure!

>

> After our discussion, the more processed the Œbad¹ foods are the

> easier it

> will be for them to digest it and the less likely there will be an

> allergic

> reaction. I don¹t think he is a proponent of processed foods but,

> for a

> sandwich, regular white bread that is more processed will be less

> likely to

> cause an activation of the GI tract and activate an immune reaction.

>

> Just my .02 on this one as I had a really hard time with this too.

> But, I

> did give an example to him about something that caused an issue with

> my son

> (making him extra protein drinks to get more of that into him) and

> after our

> discussion, it made sense to me that the drink that caused him issues

> because it was not hydrolyzed was the reason. He does okay with

> Elacare

> which is hydrolyzed (more broken down) and after our discussion it

> made

> more sense as to why it was easier on his system not necessarily

> better

> for him nutritionally. While, I do give my son the most wholesome

> food that

> I can I now understand why certain things that might likely cause a

> reaction would be better if it is more Œprocessed¹.

>

> HTH,

> Laureen

>

> On 8/26/09 11:59 AM, " ssaturnino (DOT) com " <ssaturnino (DOT) com>

> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have the same questions as you, . It's counter intuitive

> from a

> > wholesome food perspective! Does anyone know the answer to this?

> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

> >

> > Question about the diet portion of

> >

> > Hi all,

> > My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about

> 5 years. He

> > has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out

> on that, and

> > I know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was

> looking at

> > the diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does

> that mean no

> > rice, buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure

> what is

> > meant by whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

> > What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at

> breakfast, bread,

> > JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that

> because it is

> > so processed that they will less likely react to what is in there?

> I have

> > been working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to

> its natural

> > form so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what

> the premise

> > is.

> > Thanks so much,

> >

> >

> >

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Are there any fruits on the diet?

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have the same questions as you, . It's counter intuitive from a

> > wholesome food perspective! Does anyone know the answer to this?

> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

> >

> > Question about the diet portion of

> >

> > Hi all,

> > My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about 5 years.

> He

> > has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out on that,

> and

> > I know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was looking

> at

> > the diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does that mean

> no

> > rice, buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure what is

> > meant by whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

> > What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at breakfast,

> bread,

> > JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that because it

> is

> > so processed that they will less likely react to what is in there? I have

> > been working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to its

> natural

> > form so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what the

> premise

> > is.

> > Thanks so much,

> >

> >

> >

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Fruits are OK, except berries and exotic fruits (mangos, kiwis, etc.). Some

kids don’t do well with citrus.

Fruits have a lot of sugar, so we limit them to 1-2 per day.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

georgiasand32

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:22 PM

Subject: Re: Question about the diet portion of

Are there any fruits on the diet?

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I have the same questions as you, . It's counter intuitive from a

> > wholesome food perspective! Does anyone know the answer to this?

> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

> >

> > Question about the diet portion of

> >

> > Hi all,

> > My 8 year old son has been GFCF and on the DAN protocol for about 5

years.

> He

> > has made a lot of progress, but I feel we have kind of maxed out on

that,

> and

> > I know there are still things I can do for his body. Anyway, I was

looking

> at

> > the diet, and was wondering, when it says " no wholegrains " , does that

mean

> no

> > rice, buckwheat, quinoa, etc? Rice milk is ok, but I wasn't sure what is

> > meant by whole grains. Also, is ghee allowed, its allowed GFCF.

> > What is the premise behind giving processed foods (cereal at breakfast,

> bread,

> > JIF instead of organic peanut butter w/o additives), is it that because

it

> is

> > so processed that they will less likely react to what is in there? I

have

> > been working the other way, trying to get as MUCH in as closest to its

> natural

> > form so that my son gets the most nutrition, so I am curious what the

> premise

> > is.

> > Thanks so much,

> >

> >

> >

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