Help needed

[Guest guest]

Hi Sallie,

I'm happy so many other people have given you options to look at. One

more to look at, and this is a legitimate one... It started with me

as a neckache, pulsing up into my head. My head became one large

headache and would become numb. The only thing that helped it was

excedrine PM.

As it turned out, it was not directly related to my arthritis. It was

the C2 and C3 vertebrae deteriorating. It made it so the disks slid

around, putting pressure on my spine causing the pain and numbness...

My doc told me if I had waited too much longer or had a sudden jolt

of those disks, I could have become paralyzed. I got in and had

fusion of C2 and C3, with a couple bands and large screws holding it

in place.

This all was only found with an MRI of my head AND neck...

Again, not necessarily what's wrong, but don't just automatically

assume it's arthritis.

Although the deterioration was due to my arthritis and years of

prednisone...

michael

>

> Hi every-one

>

> All weekend I have had a really horrible pain on the right side of

my neck, running from the bottom of my neck up to my ear and into my

head, it feels like I have lumpy blood running through my vein, if I

apply pressure it kinda feels a bit better, although now, it is all

just aching. I know it sounds weird, but it is hard to describe. I

have also had a migraine or headache all weekend. Does any one know

what this might be? is it a new symptom for me related to A.S? or

something new?? I have tried looking on Google but came up with

nothing. So wondered if any one on this list was unfortunate enough

to suffer from this???

> I would be grateful to hear from you if you have similar symptoms

or know what this might be :-(

> Sallie

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Sallie,

I am not speaking from personal experience on the subject of

headaches, but you may want to read up on giant cell arteritis or

temporal arteritis combined with polymyalgia rheumatica. That

combination can produce many of the symptoms of RA plus king-size headaches.

Go to www.google.com and enter either of these search phrases:

+ " giant cell arteritis " + " polymyalgia rheumatica "

+ " temporal arteritis " + " polymyalgia rheumatica "

In particular, see http://www.aafp.org/afp/20000401/2061.html

If you believe that you may have temporal arteritis, you should see a

rheumatologist immediately.

Sincerely, Harald

At 04:16 PM 6/25/2006, you wrote:

>Hi every-one

>

>All weekend I have had a really horrible pain on the right side of

>my neck, running from the bottom of my neck up to my ear and into my

>head, it feels like I have lumpy blood running through my vein, if I

>apply pressure it kinda feels a bit better, although now, it is all

>just aching. I know it sounds weird, but it is hard to describe. I

>have also had a migraine or headache all weekend. Does any one know

>what this might be? is it a new symptom for me related to A.S? or

>something new?? I have tried looking on Google but came up with

>nothing. So wondered if any one on this list was unfortunate enough

>to suffer from this???

>I would be grateful to hear from you if you have similar symptoms or

>know what this might be :-(

>Sallie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Harold

Thank you for responding to my email :-) I truly hope I do not have giant

cell arteritis or polymyalgia rheumatica, I have read up on it and while I have

some some symptoms mostly I do not, so shall see what my Dr says on Wednesday.

I think just having A.S is enough for one person, shame we can not pass a law

saying only one illness per person! ;-)

Many thanks for you help

Sallie

" Harald Weiss, Technical Marketing Group " <hweiss@...> wrote:

Sallie,

I am not speaking from personal experience on the subject of

headaches, but you may want to read up on giant cell arteritis or

temporal arteritis combined with polymyalgia rheumatica. That

combination can produce many of the symptoms of RA plus king-size headaches.

Go to www.google.com and enter either of these search phrases:

+ " giant cell arteritis " + " polymyalgia rheumatica "

+ " temporal arteritis " + " polymyalgia rheumatica "

In particular, see http://www.aafp.org/afp/20000401/2061.html

If you believe that you may have temporal arteritis, you should see a

rheumatologist immediately.

Sincerely, Harald

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Answers: Real people ask and answer questions on any topic.

[Guest guest]

Hello Debra,

If you feel that inflammation is causing harm to your body, then there are two

things that were recommended to me by Dr. Nusbaum of the Center for Holistic

Medicine, www.centerforholisticmedicine.com

One is to avoid all dairy products from cows. This includes milk, ice cream,

yogurt, etc, unless you end up cooking it, (ie. bread, etc). Also, he

recommended Traumeel (limited benefit for me), and Vitalzym X (huge benefit for

me).

One last thing. If you have a doctor that is not responding for an entire week,

you might consider looking elsewhere. I have gotten responses within an hour or

two on weekends when I call my doctor. Of course, I don't call for anything

minor. Info on how to find an AP doc is below.

Good luck!

~Jeff

_________________________________________________

My story is below.......

My name is Jeff and I have RA. I have gotten a lot of useful information from

this Group and I wanted to pass on what I have learned from my experience

with RA.

I don't know of anyone that I am related to, by blood, that also has RA. I

contracted scabies in January of 2004. I was prescribed in March, 2004, two

drugs which I believe caused my RA:

1) On 3/19/04, ne lotion (USP 1%), generic for Kwell, Bio-Well

* This is a pesticide of the organochlorine type, in the same group as DDT

* This is classified as a carcinogen

2)On 3/24/04, Permethrin Cream, 5%, generic for Acticin, Elimite, Nix, Rid

* Each gram contains 50mg of permethrin

* Less than 2% absorbed into bloodstream

On 4/21/04, I was diagnosed with RA by a rheumatologist. But, he later confessed

that he could not do anything for me until my RA got really bad at which point

he would " hit me really hard " with some cancer-fighting drugs. I stopped going

to him and soon after made an appointment with a holistic doctor, Dr. Nusbaum,

from the Center for Holistic Medicine in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. Dr. Nusbaum

is an associate of Dr. Brownstein. See www.drbrownstein.com and

www.centerforholisticmedicine.com

Dr. Nusbaum confirmed by tests that I had RA and was infected with mycoplasma.

He then prescribed for me:

For inflammation:

1) Traumeel, 10 drops three times a day

2) Vitalzym X, 500mg tablets, now 8 tablets three times a day

3) Kaprex by Metagenics, 440mg - four a day

3) Ultra Inflam X (detoxification for a short period)

For mycoplasma infection:

1) Minocin (AP- antibiotic protocol)100mg twice a day on M,W,F

2) Bifa 15 (to restore my good bacteria)1.1g a day

For hormonal balance:

1) Testosterone cream, and monthly shots

2) Pregnenolone, now 50mg twice a day

3) Armour Thyroid Hormone, now 75mg a day

For vitamin D deficiency:

1) Bio-D-Mulsion Forte, Emulsified Vitamin D, 4000 IU per day, which is 1000%

RDA

__________________________________________________

I did a search through the past year of postings in this Group and I have

not found anyone talking about Vitalzym X from World Nutrition

www.worldnutrition.info/index.html or www.vitalzymx.com

Although it is not cheap, I noticed an immediate improvement in my inflammation

after taking this product. Since I am not a physician, I am not going to pretend

to tell you how enzymes can naturally consume inflammation and pass it out of

your body naturally. But, I highly recommend that anyone fighting an

inflammatory condition like RA look very closely at this natural method. It can

be purchased at www.centerforholisticmedicine.com . Vitalzym is the older,

weaker version and Vitalzym X is the stronger version. To purchase Vitalzym X,

you must create a user id and password. As with any medication, you should be

under supervision of a doctor. I was prescribed 3-500mg pills, three times a

day. I was told to increase to 4 pills, three times a day after two weeks. And,

I should keep increasing by one pill (three times a day) until the inflammation

subsided. Some patients were taking as many as 10 pills, three times a day. Too

many pills, and you could have diarrhea, too few

and your inflammation would not go away.

____________________________________________________

I know of two ways that someone can find an AP doctor, using two websites:

1) American College for the Advancement in Medicine www.acam.org

There is a referral section. From the home page, go to " Public " / " Find a

Doctor " . Enter your zip code, city, or state.

2) International Academy of Compounding Pharmacists (IACP) www.iacprx.org

There is a referral section. From the home page, go to " Referral Service " .

Find the compounding pharmacist nearest you, and ask them who they'd recommend

for the condition that you have, or the protocol that you want to use.

[Guest guest]

Jeff,

Thanks for reminding me about Traumeel. I would like to comment on

Traumeel. People don't always know how to take homeopathic medicines. For

one, if taken by mouth one should not eat or drink 1/2 hr. before and

after. If they are the pellets or tablets, don't touch them.There are also

substances that antidote, which means they make the remedy useless.

Aromatic substances like camphor, mint and tea tree oil are antidotes.

People who take homeopathic remedies use special tooth paste without any

such substances. Geoff is more knowledgeable on this topic.

Just thought to offer this for consideration :-)

Ute

[Guest guest]

The Traumeel ointment and gel are great topically!

Lynne A

[Guest guest]

Hi Jeff, thanks for the response. I am trying to

watch what I eat very carefully and I will look into

your other suggestions. Thanks, Debra

--- Jeff <roberts1008@...> wrote:

> Hello Debra,

>

> If you feel that inflammation is causing harm to

> your body, then there are two things that were

> recommended to me by Dr. Nusbaum of the Center for

> Holistic Medicine, www.centerforholisticmedicine.com

>

> One is to avoid all dairy products from cows. This

> includes milk, ice cream, yogurt, etc, unless you

> end up cooking it, (ie. bread, etc). Also, he

> recommended Traumeel (limited benefit for me), and

> Vitalzym X (huge benefit for me).

>

> One last thing. If you have a doctor that is not

> responding for an entire week, you might consider

> looking elsewhere. I have gotten responses within an

> hour or two on weekends when I call my doctor. Of

> course, I don't call for anything minor. Info on how

> to find an AP doc is below.

>

> Good luck!

>

> ~Jeff

> _________________________________________________

> My story is below.......

>

> My name is Jeff and I have RA. I have gotten a lot

> of useful information from this Group and I

> wanted to pass on what I have learned from my

> experience with RA.

>

> I don't know of anyone that I am related to, by

> blood, that also has RA. I contracted scabies in

> January of 2004. I was prescribed in March, 2004,

> two drugs which I believe caused my RA:

> 1) On 3/19/04, ne lotion (USP 1%), generic for

> Kwell, Bio-Well

> * This is a pesticide of the organochlorine type, in

> the same group as DDT

> * This is classified as a carcinogen

> 2)On 3/24/04, Permethrin Cream, 5%, generic for

> Acticin, Elimite, Nix, Rid

> * Each gram contains 50mg of permethrin

> * Less than 2% absorbed into bloodstream

>

> On 4/21/04, I was diagnosed with RA by a

> rheumatologist. But, he later confessed that he

> could not do anything for me until my RA got really

> bad at which point he would " hit me really hard "

> with some cancer-fighting drugs. I stopped going to

> him and soon after made an appointment with a

> holistic doctor, Dr. Nusbaum, from the Center for

> Holistic Medicine in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan. Dr.

> Nusbaum is an associate of Dr. Brownstein. See

> www.drbrownstein.com and

> www.centerforholisticmedicine.com

>

> Dr. Nusbaum confirmed by tests that I had RA and was

> infected with mycoplasma. He then prescribed for me:

>

> For inflammation:

> 1) Traumeel, 10 drops three times a day

> 2) Vitalzym X, 500mg tablets, now 8 tablets three

> times a day

> 3) Kaprex by Metagenics, 440mg - four a day

> 3) Ultra Inflam X (detoxification for a short

> period)

>

> For mycoplasma infection:

> 1) Minocin (AP- antibiotic protocol)100mg twice a

> day on M,W,F

> 2) Bifa 15 (to restore my good bacteria)1.1g a day

>

> For hormonal balance:

> 1) Testosterone cream, and monthly shots

> 2) Pregnenolone, now 50mg twice a day

> 3) Armour Thyroid Hormone, now 75mg a day

>

> For vitamin D deficiency:

> 1) Bio-D-Mulsion Forte, Emulsified Vitamin D, 4000

> IU per day, which is 1000% RDA

> __________________________________________________

>

> I did a search through the past year of postings in

> this Group and I have not found anyone talking

> about Vitalzym X from World Nutrition

> www.worldnutrition.info/index.html or

> www.vitalzymx.com

>

> Although it is not cheap, I noticed an immediate

> improvement in my inflammation after taking this

> product. Since I am not a physician, I am not going

> to pretend to tell you how enzymes can naturally

> consume inflammation and pass it out of your body

> naturally. But, I highly recommend that anyone

> fighting an inflammatory condition like RA look very

> closely at this natural method. It can be purchased

> at www.centerforholisticmedicine.com . Vitalzym is

> the older, weaker version and Vitalzym X is the

> stronger version. To purchase Vitalzym X, you must

> create a user id and password. As with any

> medication, you should be under supervision of a

> doctor. I was prescribed 3-500mg pills, three times

> a day. I was told to increase to 4 pills, three

> times a day after two weeks. And, I should keep

> increasing by one pill (three times a day) until the

> inflammation subsided. Some patients were taking as

> many as 10 pills, three times a day. Too many pills,

> and you could have diarrhea, too few

> and your inflammation would not go away.

>

> ____________________________________________________

>

> I know of two ways that someone can find an AP

> doctor, using two websites:

>

> 1) American College for the Advancement in Medicine

> www.acam.org

> There is a referral section. From the home page, go

> to " Public " / " Find a Doctor " . Enter your zip code,

> city, or state.

>

> 2) International Academy of Compounding Pharmacists

> (IACP) www.iacprx.org

> There is a referral section. From the home page, go

> to " Referral Service " .

> Find the compounding pharmacist nearest you, and ask

> them who they'd recommend for the condition that you

> have, or the protocol that you want to use.

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am pretty sure this is a federal and not state issue and would be

adjudicated via an administrative law judge. It may have been

litigated previously. You need to find out if it is a federal or

state issue and what the specific regulation states regarding the

definition of a qualified professional for these types of services.

It is going to come down to how loosely defined this is. If it were

me I would call Sussan and Greenwald. They are in NJ but if the issue

is federal they will know the answer. They have answered questions

like this twice for me in the past. I spoke with Greenwald. Her

partner, Theodore Sussan, is on the Speechville Board and has an

autistic son. Also, you can ask the school for the specific

regulation that allows this in writing. Interesting to see what they

come up with.

Sussan and Greenwald's site

www.special-ed-law.com/

I do not work for them.

>

> OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find out if

> legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know if

it's

> written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal. What I

want

> to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service to my

> son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and early

> childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current SLP

and

> the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers (school

psych's

> and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no it's

not

> legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit) they

don't

> know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something up

and

> for me to write something that states he needs more than an itin

> teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com and

> apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic kids

should

> recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an SLP.

My

> son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving me

much

> time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off and

unable

> to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I can

look

> for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

> Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

If I am not mistaken, federal law says that a tech trained in techniques may do

these services (which is why a parent should ALWAYS ask for the experience and

credentials of anyone working with their special needs child - BECAUSE the law

also states that you can have persons of the highest training work with your

children, especially if the need someone with more credentials) I would think

that severe apraxia and dyspraxia would indicate the need for someone with more

training. If they ask you WHY tell them " I don't know because I am not an

expert in this field - are you? Oh you're not? then that is why it would be

best to have an expert in this field to handle things because like any severe

condition we don't know what we don't know "

Others may read the IDEA differently, but this is my take on it, and what I

have known to occur.

bault123 <kault@...> wrote:

OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find out if

legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know if it's

written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal. What I want

to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service to my

son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and early

childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current SLP and

the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers (school psych's

and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no it's not

legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit) they don't

know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something up and

for me to write something that states he needs more than an itin

teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com and

apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic kids should

recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an SLP. My

son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving me much

time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off and unable

to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I can look

for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

Bonnie

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[Guest guest]

My understanding is that while IDEA is a federal law that

states " interpret and implement " differently. For example, here in

NY the qualifications for an SLP in EI are different then Preschool.

In EI you have to be a licensed SLP (with a master's degree in speech

and passed certain tests) but for preschool & public school you can

practice with a Teacher of the Speech & hearing handicapped license

(a bachelor's degree and a teaching certificate). Most SLP's

(including myself) have both levels of certification for job

flexability.

The bottom line is the IEP is a legal document and if it lists the

provider as an SLP then no, a teacher could not provide. BUT if it

lists teacher consult for speech services then they could.

Try your state ed department to see what their " provider

qualifications " are and DO NOT sign off on an IEP with the speech

provider listed as anything but an SLP.

On a related note, many SLP's are not experianced in providing

services for apraxia. Always ask.

> >

> > OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find out

if

> > legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know if

> it's

> > written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal. What

I

> want

> > to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service to

my

> > son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and early

> > childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current SLP

> and

> > the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers (school

> psych's

> > and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no

it's

> not

> > legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit) they

> don't

> > know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something up

> and

> > for me to write something that states he needs more than an itin

> > teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com and

> > apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic kids

> should

> > recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an

SLP.

> My

> > son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving me

> much

> > time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off and

> unable

> > to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I can

> look

> > for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

> > Bonnie

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You might want to call ASHA to see what they have to say about it.

They may even have guidelines for SLP's with regards to overseeing

other specialists.

M.

>

> OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find out if

> legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know if

it's

> written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal. What I

want

> to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service to my

> son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and early

> childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current SLP

and

> the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers (school

psych's

> and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no it's

not

> legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit) they

don't

> know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something up

and

> for me to write something that states he needs more than an itin

> teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com and

> apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic kids

should

> recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an SLP.

My

> son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving me

much

> time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off and

unable

> to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I can

look

> for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

> Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

If that is the case then the IDEA codification of qualifications is

probably loose because as a general rule federal law trumps state law

so NY would not bother to differentiate if the federal law laid it

out.

, your posts are so helpful.

> > >

> > > OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find out

> if

> > > legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know

if

> > it's

> > > written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal.

What

> I

> > want

> > > to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service

to

> my

> > > son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and

early

> > > childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current

SLP

> > and

> > > the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers (school

> > psych's

> > > and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no

> it's

> > not

> > > legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit) they

> > don't

> > > know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something

up

> > and

> > > for me to write something that states he needs more than an

itin

> > > teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com

and

> > > apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic kids

> > should

> > > recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an

> SLP.

> > My

> > > son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving me

> > much

> > > time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off and

> > unable

> > > to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I

can

> > look

> > > for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I figured out what ASHA means! Thanks, I just shot off 2 emails to

people, I hope I get a response before the 4th of Jan!

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

Please provide data that federal law trumps state law.

If that was the case, many of schools would be screwed.... state trumps

federal

ilizzy03 <lizlaw@...> wrote:

If that is the case then the IDEA codification of qualifications is

probably loose because as a general rule federal law trumps state law

so NY would not bother to differentiate if the federal law laid it

out.

, your posts are so helpful.

> > >

> > > OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find out

> if

> > > legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know

if

> > it's

> > > written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal.

What

> I

> > want

> > > to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service

to

> my

> > > son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and

early

> > > childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current

SLP

> > and

> > > the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers (school

> > psych's

> > > and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no

> it's

> > not

> > > legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit) they

> > don't

> > > know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something

up

> > and

> > > for me to write something that states he needs more than an

itin

> > > teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com

and

> > > apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic kids

> > should

> > > recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an

> SLP.

> > My

> > > son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving me

> > much

> > > time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off and

> > unable

> > > to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I

can

> > look

> > > for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Sorry about that. In case anyone else is confused. . . www.asha.org

-- In , " bault123 " <kault@...> wrote:

>

> I figured out what ASHA means! Thanks, I just shot off 2 emails to

> people, I hope I get a response before the 4th of Jan!

> Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

have you asked about the qualifications of the person they are

assigning to your child? just wondering- when my 6dd was in EI, they

sent a Special Ed teacher to my house. She finished with us and was

gone. A couple years later when my older son was going into the local

elementary school- I ran into the same special ed teacher. She said

she is a Speech Teacher for the school district but her Masters is in

Special Education. I just can't see them just picking any old person

and saying " ok, now you are a speech teacher? " . it just doesn't make

sense! ask the people at the school if she is qualified as a speech

teacher before dragging all the legal info into it. hope this helps.

Now that same speech teacher is dying to have my daughter in her

school, but she is off in another ES where the self-contained classes

are.

[Guest guest]

Sorry, maybe I said that the wrong way. Federal law is the

floor...meaning basic rights from federal law must be incorporated

into state law. State law cannot give you less rights than federal

law. It must meet or beat federal law.

> > > >

> > > > OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find

out

> > if

> > > > legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know

> if

> > > it's

> > > > written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal.

> What

> > I

> > > want

> > > > to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service

> to

> > my

> > > > son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and

> early

> > > > childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current

> SLP

> > > and

> > > > the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers

(school

> > > psych's

> > > > and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no

> > it's

> > > not

> > > > legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit)

they

> > > don't

> > > > know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something

> up

> > > and

> > > > for me to write something that states he needs more than an

> itin

> > > > teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com

> and

> > > > apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic

kids

> > > should

> > > > recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an

> > SLP.

> > > My

> > > > son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving

me

> > > much

> > > > time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off

and

> > > unable

> > > > to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I

> can

> > > look

> > > > for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

> > > > Bonnie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Again, there is a major difference in education for a Teacher of the

spech/hearing handicapped (TSHH) and a licensed SLP. The TSHH has an

undergrad degree in speech which is heavily geared towards education

(including student teaching) and " light " on speech/language courses

v.s. a licensed SLP which has a masters degree in speech/language with

2 - 3 years of " communication disorders " course work and multiple

clinical practicums in rehab, clinics, etc.

THERE IS A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE THERE. I have both an undergrad degree

in speech and a masters in speech (1998/2000 respectively)and I still

felt undereducated on how to treat Apraxia. I knew it when I saw it but

didn't know how to treat it well. I took many many continuing ed.

courses including PROMPT to become a " specialist " in apraxia.

Hope this is helpful.

>

> have you asked about the qualifications of the person they are

> assigning to your child? just wondering- when my 6dd was in EI, they

> sent a Special Ed teacher to my house. She finished with us and was

> gone. A couple years later when my older son was going into the local

> elementary school- I ran into the same special ed teacher. She said

> she is a Speech Teacher for the school district but her Masters is in

> Special Education. I just can't see them just picking any old person

> and saying " ok, now you are a speech teacher? " . it just doesn't make

> sense! ask the people at the school if she is qualified as a speech

> teacher before dragging all the legal info into it. hope this helps.

> Now that same speech teacher is dying to have my daughter in her

> school, but she is off in another ES where the self-contained classes

> are.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm and attorney barred in Florida and the Federal District Court for

the Northern District of Florida. Federal law always controls the

rights/obligations of citizens (and sometimes states)--it's called

federal preemption. Once a federal law is passed signalling the

intention of the federal government to legislate an area of rights or

obligations, the states must implement the federal mandate (many

times it's an unfunded mandate, meaning higher local/state taxes to

implement the federal law). This is how state implementation

standards for the same federal law can differ. For instance, federal

law H.R. 218 gives retired law enforcement officers the right to

concealed carry firearms anywhere in the USA, but it's up to states

to provide for the method of assessing these retirees and ensuring

that they meet the minimum federal standards as outlined in H.R.

218. This means different minimum shooting requirements for annual

qualification depending on the retiree's state's minimum shooting

requirement for its peace officers. Some states may have rigorous

courses of fire, others may have lax courses of fire, but every

retiree who successfully shoots the course of fire in his state as

required by his state is authorized to be issued a state card

pursuant to H.R. 218. The same for deciding who is qualified to give

services to our kids. Services must be given, but by whom they are

given is up to each state (different states have different licensure

requirements for professionals working with ESE kids).

Hope this helps.

Grace

Crawfordville, FL

> Please provide data that federal law trumps state law.

>

> If that was the case, many of schools would be screwed.... state

trumps federal

>

> ilizzy03 <lizlaw@...> wrote:

> If that is the case then the IDEA codification of

qualifications is

> probably loose because as a general rule federal law trumps state

law

> so NY would not bother to differentiate if the federal law laid it

> out.

>

> , your posts are so helpful.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > OK ladies, I need some help. I'm desparately trying to find

out

> > if

> > > > legally a sped teacher can provide speech therapy. Yes I know

> if

> > > it's

> > > > written as consult for the SLP on the IEP that it's legal.

> What

> > I

> > > want

> > > > to know is can a itin sped teacher provide the direct service

> to

> > my

> > > > son? I've called the ARC, the Ohio state dept of sped and

> early

> > > > childhood, the local board of MRDD, two area SERRC's, current

> SLP

> > > and

> > > > the Ohio Coaltion as well as talking with my coworkers

(school

> > > psych's

> > > > and sped supervisor and school SLP). Most people say that no

> > it's

> > > not

> > > > legal, BUT since it's never been tried (as in - law suit)

they

> > > don't

> > > > know. I've been told to have his current SLP write something

> up

> > > and

> > > > for me to write something that states he needs more than an

> itin

> > > > teacher. I've gathered a lot of research from slaw.com

> and

> > > > apraxia-kids.com and the state dept that all state apraxic

kids

> > > should

> > > > recieve ST several times weekly w/ at least one being from an

> > SLP.

> > > My

> > > > son's IEP is Jan 4th so I'm concerned that this isn't giving

me

> > > much

> > > > time especially b/c of the holidays many people will be off

and

> > > unable

> > > > to answer my questions! Any other suggestions as to where I

> can

> > > look

> > > > for answers? Thanks and happy holidays to everyone!

> > > > Bonnie

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

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>

>

[Guest guest]

It has been brought to my attention that this post was " badgering "

and percieved as " yelling " . I apologize as that was not my

intention. I want you all to recieve the best services for your

children and that starts with your provider. Please email me

directly if you have any further questions or concerns.

Perhaps this group is more geared for parents to parent information.

I will go back to my " lurking " status to learn from you all as have

have for months.

Thank you all for sharing all you have. This group is incrediably

resourceful and supportive to each other.

> >

> > have you asked about the qualifications of the person they are

> > assigning to your child? just wondering- when my 6dd was in EI,

they

> > sent a Special Ed teacher to my house. She finished with us and

was

> > gone. A couple years later when my older son was going into the

local

> > elementary school- I ran into the same special ed teacher. She

said

> > she is a Speech Teacher for the school district but her Masters

is in

> > Special Education. I just can't see them just picking any old

person

> > and saying " ok, now you are a speech teacher? " . it just doesn't

make

> > sense! ask the people at the school if she is qualified as a

speech

> > teacher before dragging all the legal info into it. hope this

helps.

> > Now that same speech teacher is dying to have my daughter in her

> > school, but she is off in another ES where the self-contained

classes

> > are.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

First let me say that you ladies are awesome! I've gotten some great

suggestions from all of you. I did contact the ASHA and got the Ohio

assoc. from which I did get a response which said that it must be a

SLP, not a sped teacher. By the way, the school district said that it

would be an itinerant teacher, which I clarified by asking " you mean it

would be a special education teacher like myself providing speech and

language therapy to my son who has apraxia? " The SERRC center rep (also

rep for prek services for our SD) said yes, but they are really great

people. Hello, I don't care how fabulous they are, are they qualified

to provide a much needed service to my son? In my book and many other

professionals opinions that I've questioned, the answer is no! The SLP

who did my son's eval said that most of the itinernat teachers from the

SERRC are older women (in my own experience that is true, itinerants

tend to be " older " (read - close to retirement)teachers that need a

break from the classroom - not to say they aren't great teachers, but,

that's just my experience). Again, they are special education

teachers, the SLP say she's " trained " these itinerants so they are very

good. What she means be trained, I don't know yet, but I will find

out.

[Guest guest]

,

I didn't see your post in any way as badgering or yelling. It seemed that you

only wanted to emphasize a very important part for the purpose of saving kids

anxiety further down the road (not to mention wasted years in useless services).

I sometimes cap things of significance as well in posts because it is harder to

use bold print or italics or underline on a message board.

No worries, thanks so much for your wisdom and care!

<Kglashauser@...> wrote:

It has been brought to my attention that this post was " badgering "

and percieved as " yelling " . I apologize as that was not my

intention. I want you all to recieve the best services for your

children and that starts with your provider. Please email me

directly if you have any further questions or concerns.

Perhaps this group is more geared for parents to parent information.

I will go back to my " lurking " status to learn from you all as have

have for months.

Thank you all for sharing all you have. This group is incrediably

resourceful and supportive to each other.

> >

> > have you asked about the qualifications of the person they are

> > assigning to your child? just wondering- when my 6dd was in EI,

they

> > sent a Special Ed teacher to my house. She finished with us and

was

> > gone. A couple years later when my older son was going into the

local

> > elementary school- I ran into the same special ed teacher. She

said

> > she is a Speech Teacher for the school district but her Masters

is in

> > Special Education. I just can't see them just picking any old

person

> > and saying " ok, now you are a speech teacher? " . it just doesn't

make

> > sense! ask the people at the school if she is qualified as a

speech

> > teacher before dragging all the legal info into it. hope this

helps.

> > Now that same speech teacher is dying to have my daughter in her

> > school, but she is off in another ES where the self-contained

classes

> > are.

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

JMO but it helped me greatly since I need to find a therapist like

you in my area:)

>

> It has been brought to my attention that this post was " badgering "

> and percieved as " yelling " . I apologize as that was not my

> intention. I want you all to recieve the best services for your

> children and that starts with your provider. Please email me

> directly if you have any further questions or concerns.

>

> Perhaps this group is more geared for parents to parent

information.

> I will go back to my " lurking " status to learn from you all as have

> have for months.

>

> Thank you all for sharing all you have. This group is incrediably

> resourceful and supportive to each other.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I am having some serious issues with my feet mostly at work I work on

> concrete floors and my feet hurt so bad and burn at times I bought sketchers

> and a dozen other shoes and still no luck I also have bought all the inserts

> they carrie at the drug store ant suggestions greatly appreciated.

New Balance shoes see to help most of us most of the time. Overall

when I have had the proper fitting new balance shoes I have been happy

with them.

You may need custom molded orthodics for your shoes. Some insurances

will pay for them, otherwise they are about $400.

Good Luck

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have to add that I love my SAS shoes. many years ago before dx my feet

were killing. My Dr. was no help in finding relief. I went to a family run

shoe store and she listened to me and suggested that I buy the SAS shoes.

With in several weeks my feet were much better.

I even wear them with formal clothing. Hurting is not Pretty!

Hugs,

Jan S

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