Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I would almost bet a year of my husband's salary that Dr. G has never even *thought* about camel milk because I'm pretty sure it's not available in the West...but given that study, and the fact that goat and sheep milk are both allowed, I would bet he would allow it. Is your child a patient of Dr. G? If so, you might want to show him that study. HTH, Donna > > > Has dr Goldberg (or other docs) ever mention or recommend camel milk? - > not sure if it is available in the West at all now - it wasn’t a year or so > ago when I first looked... > Natasa > > > Xi Bao Yu Fen Zi Mian Yi Xue Za Zhi. 2009 May;25(5):431-3. > [The influences of camel milk on the immune response of chronic > hepatitis B patients.] > [Article in Chinese] Saltanat H, Li H, Xu Y, Wang J, Liu F, Geng XH. > The Clinical Laboratory of the Second Affiliated Hospital of Xinjiang > Medical University, Urumqi 830028, China. > AIM: To investigate the influences of camel milk on the immune response > of the chronic hepatitis B patients and its possible mechanism. METHODS: > After drinking camel milk for one year, 44 chronic hepatitis B patients were > observed and the HBV-DNA, hepatitis B virus markers, ALT, IL-4 and INF-gamma > levels in serum were detected. 60 chronic hepatitis B patients without any > interventions for 1 year were taken as control. RESULTS: The level of > Th1-type cytokine IFN-gamma in camel milk drinking group was significantly > higher than that in the non-drinking camel milk group (P<0.05), however, the > level of Th2-type cytokines IL-4 in camel milk drinking group was > significantly lower than that in the non-drinking camel milk group (P<0.01). > Both IFN-gamma and IL-4 levels in camel milk drinking group were near to > those in the normal control group. The HBV-DNA negative rate of the camel > milk drinking group (90.91%) was significantly higher than that of the > non-drinking group (3.23%) (P<0.01). The HBsAg negative rates of the camel > milk drinking group (54.55%) was also higher than that of the non-drinking > group (1.61%)(P<0.01).The ALT level of 44 cases in the camel milk drinking > group (100%)and 7 cases in the non-drinking group(11.29%) turned back to the > normal level, there was a significant difference between the two group > (P<0.01). CONCLUSION: Camel milk regulates the expression of Th1/Th2-type > cytokines, and corrects the imbalance of Th1/Th2 cytokine network, which > could strengthen the cellular immune response, inhibit the replication of > virus DNA, and promote the recovery of the chronic hepatitis B patients. > PMID: 19426601 > > > Isr Med Assoc J. 2005 Dec;7(12):796-8.L > Camel milk for food allergies in children. > Shabo Y, Barzel R, Margoulis M, Yagil R. Department of Family > Medicine, Faculty of Health Sciences, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, > Beer Sheva, Israel. BACKGROUND: Food allergies in children are often very > serious and can lead to anaphylactic reactions. Observations that camel milk > ameliorates allergic reactions were noted over the years. The effect of > camel milk is probably related to its special composition. OBJECTIVES: To > investigate the effect of camel milk in several children with severe food > (mainly milk) allergies. METHODS: We studied eight children with food > allergies who did not benefit from conventional treatment. Their parents, or > their physicians, decided to try camel milk as a last resort. The parents > were advised by the authors - who have considerable experience with the use > of camel milk - regarding how much and when the children should drink the > milk. The parents reported daily on the progress of their children. RESULTS: > All eight children in this study reacted well to the milk and recovered > fully from their allergies. CONCLUSIONS: These encouraging results should be > validated by large-scale clinical trials. > PMID: 16382703 > Full text http://tinyurl.com/lxjkj4 > > > Healing Thresholds - Scientific Evidence Source: International Journal of > Human Development, Volume 4, Issue 2, p.67-70 (2005) > Layperson Summary: Camel milk does not have casein and may be an effective > treatment for autism. This article describes people with autism who were > given camel milk instead of cow milk. One 4-year old girl drank camel milk > for 40 days and her autism symptoms disappeared. A 15-year old boy recovered > from autism after 30 days of drinking camel milk. Several 21-year old > individuals with autism were given camel milk for two weeks and they became > quieter and stopped hurting themselves. The authors conclude by suggesting > that camel milk be drunk under a doctor'€™s care. > Scientific Abstract > <http://www.freundpublishing.com/Disability%20and%20Human%20Development/IJDH > D4_2.htm> > > > J Med Food. 2009 Apr;12(2):461-5. > Camel milk as an adjuvant therapy for the treatment of type 1 diabetes: > verification of a traditional ethnomedical practice. > > Mohamad RH, Zekry ZK, Al-Mehdar HA, Salama O, El-Shaieb SE, El-Basmy AA, > Al-said MG, Sharawy SM. Cancer Biology Department, National Cancer > Institute, Cairo University, Cairo, Egypt. ragaa_hosny2@... > There is a traditional belief in the Middle East that regular > consumption of camel milk may aid in prevention and control of diabetes. The > aim of this work was to evaluate the efficacy of camel milk as an adjuvant > therapy in young type 1 diabetics. This 16-week randomized study enrolled 54 > type 1 diabetic patients (average age 20 years) selected from those > attending the outpatient diabetes clinic of the Menofia University Hospital, > affiliated with Egypt's National Cancer Institute. Subjects were randomly > divided into two groups of 27 patients: one received usual management (diet, > exercise, and insulin), whereas the other received 500 mL of camel milk > daily in addition to standard management. A control group of 10 healthy > subjects was also assessed. The following parameters were evaluated at > baseline and at 4 and 16 weeks: hemoglobin A1c (HbA1c), human C-peptide, > lipid profile, serum insulin, anti-insulin antibodies, creatinine clearance, > albumin in 24-hour urine, body mass index, and Diabetes Quality of Life > score. The following parameters were significantly different between the > usual-management group versus the camel milk group after 16 weeks: fasting > blood sugar (227.2 +/- 17.7 vs. 98.9 +/- 16.2 mg/dL), HbA1c (9.59 +/- > 2.05[%] vs. 7.16 +/- 1.84[%]), serum anti-insulin antibodies (26.20 +/- 7.69 > vs. 20.92 +/- 5.45 microU/mL), urinary albumin excretion (25.17 +/- 5.43 vs. > 14.54 +/- 5.62 mg/dL/24 hours), daily insulin dose (48.1 +/- 6.95 vs. 23 +/- > 4.05 units), and body mass index (18.43 +/- 3.59 vs. 24.3 +/- 2.95 kg/m(2)). > Most notably, C-peptide levels were markedly higher in the camel milk group > (0.28 +/- 0.6 vs. 2.30 +/- 0.51 pmol/mL). These results suggest that, as an > adjunct to standard management, daily ingestion of camel milk can aid > metabolic control in young type 1 diabetics, at least in part by boosting > endogenous insulin secretion. PMID: 19459752 > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Natasa, Very interesting studies you found! It makes me wonder how cow¹s milk might affect the immune system if it were studied in the same way (would it have some opposite effects?). I don¹t know what Dr. G would say about camels¹ milk, but I can pretty much guarantee that if he were to approve it it would have to pasteurized. Caroline G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 I saw a study once (have it saved but the hard-drive it is saved on is down right now or I'd post it. It was done I think by some american dairy association, studying the stimulating effects on the immune system. It was years ago, but I remember it listing cytokines and interleukins that it stimulated ... which would be fine and positive in normal healthy people ... but in our kids and in ashtma CFIDS, these are many of the cytokines that are dysregulated. So it really doesn't require an allergy to cow's milk for it to be a negative in . I think it stimulated a TH-2 immune response. HTH- ________________________________ From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:03:27 AM Subject: Re: Camel milk?? Natasa, Very interesting studies you found! It makes me wonder how cow¹s milk might affect the immune system if it were studied in the same way (would it have some opposite effects?). I don¹t know what Dr. G would say about camels¹ milk, but I can pretty much guarantee that if he were to approve it it would have to pasteurized. Caroline G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Funny, my husband just last night said " Hey - we could farm camels and sell their milk for something like $27 per quart! "  Talk about coincidences. Wonder if it 'means' something? lol ________________________________ From: Neno/Natasa <neno@...> " " < > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:09:58 AM Subject: Camel milk??  Has dr Goldberg (or other docs) ever mention or recommend camel milk? - not sure if it is available in the West at all now - it wasn’t a year or so ago when I first looked... Natasa Xi Bao Yu Fen Zi Mian Yi Xue Za Zhi. 2009 May;25(5):431- 3. [The influences of camel milk on the immune response of chronic hepatitis B patients.] [Article in Chinese] Saltanat H, Li H, Xu Y, Wang J, Liu F, Geng XH. The Clinical Laboratory of the Second Affiliated Hospital of Xinjiang Medical University, Urumqi 830028, China. AIM: To investigate the influences of camel milk on the immune response of the chronic hepatitis B patients and its possible mechanism. METHODS: After drinking camel milk for one year, 44 chronic hepatitis B patients were observed and the HBV-DNA, hepatitis B virus markers, ALT, IL-4 and INF-gamma levels in serum were detected. 60 chronic hepatitis B patients without any interventions for 1 year were taken as control. RESULTS: The level of Th1-type cytokine IFN-gamma in camel milk drinking group was significantly higher than that in the non-drinking camel milk group (P<0.05), however, the level of Th2-type cytokines IL-4 in camel milk drinking group was significantly lower than that in the non-drinking camel milk group (P<0.01). Both IFN-gamma and IL-4 levels in camel milk drinking group were near to those in the normal control group. The HBV-DNA negative rate of the camel milk drinking group (90.91%) was significantly higher than that of the non-drinking group (3.23%) (P<0.01). The HBsAg negative rates of the camel milk drinking group (54.55%) was also higher than that of the non-drinking group (1.61%)(P<0. 01).The ALT level of 44 cases in the camel milk drinking group (100%)and 7 cases in the non-drinking group(11.29% ) turned back to the normal level, there was a significant difference between the two group (P<0.01). CONCLUSION: Camel milk regulates the expression of Th1/Th2-type cytokines, and corrects the imbalance of Th1/Th2 cytokine network, which could strengthen the cellular immune response, inhibit the replication of virus DNA, and promote the recovery of the chronic hepatitis B patients. PMID: 19426601 Isr Med Assoc J. 2005 Dec;7(12):796- 8.L Camel milk for food allergies in children. Shabo Y, Barzel R, Margoulis M, Yagil R. Department of Family Medicine, Faculty of Health Sciences, Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, Beer Sheva, Israel. BACKGROUND: Food allergies in children are often very serious and can lead to anaphylactic reactions. Observations that camel milk ameliorates allergic reactions were noted over the years. The effect of camel milk is probably related to its special composition. OBJECTIVES: To investigate the effect of camel milk in several children with severe food (mainly milk) allergies. METHODS: We studied eight children with food allergies who did not benefit from conventional treatment. Their parents, or their physicians, decided to try camel milk as a last resort. The parents were advised by the authors - who have considerable experience with the use of camel milk - regarding how much and when the children should drink the milk. The parents reported daily on the progress of their children. RESULTS: All eight children in this study reacted well to the milk and recovered fully from their allergies. CONCLUSIONS: These encouraging results should be validated by large-scale clinical trials. PMID: 16382703 Full text http://tinyurl. com/lxjkj4 Healing Thresholds - Scientific Evidence Source: International Journal of Human Development, Volume 4, Issue 2, p.67-70 (2005) Layperson Summary: Camel milk does not have casein and may be an effective treatment for autism. This article describes people with autism who were given camel milk instead of cow milk. One 4-year old girl drank camel milk for 40 days and her autism symptoms disappeared. A 15-year old boy recovered from autism after 30 days of drinking camel milk. Several 21-year old individuals with autism were given camel milk for two weeks and they became quieter and stopped hurting themselves. The authors conclude by suggesting that camel milk be drunk under a doctor'€™s care. Scientific Abstract <http://www.freundpu blishing. com/Disability% 20and%20Human% 20Development/ IJDH D4_2.htm> J Med Food. 2009 Apr;12(2):461- 5. Camel milk as an adjuvant therapy for the treatment of type 1 diabetes: verification of a traditional ethnomedical practice. Mohamad RH, Zekry ZK, Al-Mehdar HA, Salama O, El-Shaieb SE, El-Basmy AA, Al-said MG, Sharawy SM. Cancer Biology Department, National Cancer Institute, Cairo University, Cairo, Egypt. ragaa_hosny2@ hotmail.com There is a traditional belief in the Middle East that regular consumption of camel milk may aid in prevention and control of diabetes. The aim of this work was to evaluate the efficacy of camel milk as an adjuvant therapy in young type 1 diabetics. This 16-week randomized study enrolled 54 type 1 diabetic patients (average age 20 years) selected from those attending the outpatient diabetes clinic of the Menofia University Hospital, affiliated with Egypt's National Cancer Institute. Subjects were randomly divided into two groups of 27 patients: one received usual management (diet, exercise, and insulin), whereas the other received 500 mL of camel milk daily in addition to standard management. A control group of 10 healthy subjects was also assessed. The following parameters were evaluated at baseline and at 4 and 16 weeks: hemoglobin A1c (HbA1c), human C-peptide, lipid profile, serum insulin, anti-insulin antibodies, creatinine clearance, albumin in 24-hour urine, body mass index, and Diabetes Quality of Life score. The following parameters were significantly different between the usual-management group versus the camel milk group after 16 weeks: fasting blood sugar (227.2 +/- 17.7 vs. 98.9 +/- 16.2 mg/dL), HbA1c (9.59 +/- 2.05[%] vs. 7.16 +/- 1.84[%]), serum anti-insulin antibodies (26.20 +/- 7.69 vs. 20.92 +/- 5.45 microU/mL), urinary albumin excretion (25.17 +/- 5.43 vs. 14.54 +/- 5.62 mg/dL/24 hours), daily insulin dose (48.1 +/- 6.95 vs. 23 +/- 4.05 units), and body mass index (18.43 +/- 3.59 vs. 24.3 +/- 2.95 kg/m(2)). Most notably, C-peptide levels were markedly higher in the camel milk group (0.28 +/- 0.6 vs. 2.30 +/- 0.51 pmol/mL). These results suggest that, as an adjunct to standard management, daily ingestion of camel milk can aid metabolic control in young type 1 diabetics, at least in part by boosting endogenous insulin secretion. PMID: 19459752 ------ End of Forwarded Message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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