RE: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to Autism.....

[Guest guest]

It's not simple green. That stuff is TOXIC.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Javan

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:53 PM

Subject: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Hi Kristy- thanks for the input.

I did a little research and was looking for the 'all purpose' cleaner you

found/use at COSTCO, and the only one I could find online was the 'SIMPLE

GREEN' all purpose cleaner- which I wanted to say a few things about, but

first.

I've had the NeuroSPECT scan done at UCLA-

You can actually see pictures of 'my' brain and results on this web site

where I posted them.

http://www.ei-resource.org/myblog/SPECT-Scan-of-Multiple-Chemical-Sensitivit

y-MCS-Patient-Brain.html

I had the scan done back in 2006, and have been working on treatment, first

with Dr. Goldberg, then with Dr. ever since.

I just want to put out examples that I have had tests, brain scans, loads of

blood work and drug and nutrition treatment for a few yaers...

I don't know a whole lot about your difficulties and such- and I'd like to

learn more.

After getting my NeuroSPECT scan done I was told I have the same scans and

problems they find in Autistic patients.

After doing a lot of research and work with doctors I've come to find out

that my condition seems to 'mostly' be driven by diet and ESPECIALLY

chemicals, fumes, pollution, smog, etc.

When you come into contact with breathing in fumes of different kinds,

perfume, diesel exhaust, regular fabric softener, paint, glue, etc., etc.,

etc.- Do you find yourself having any melt-downs or extreme crying spells,

or totally uncontrollable flashes of anger and rage?

I'm just trying to get an idea as to how severe the problems you deal with

are.

I am not sure if you were talking about the 'SIMPLE GREEN' all purpose

cleaner or not... but I have tried using the 'SIMPLE GREEN' and I can

honestly say it makes my condition much worse... I cannot tolerate it

whatsoever. I know it claims to be natural and biodegradable, but I find

that it effects me just as much if not more than regular cleaner. I have

total and utter meltdowns using it... I find myself incredibly depressed,

very OCD, unable to think clearly, very agitated, and as extreme as it

sounds, sometimes suicidal... it is THAT painful on many levels.

There are strong links of chemicals and environmental pollution playing a

part in Autism as it turns out. Since I have the blood work similar to other

patients, the SPECT brain scans, many of the same problems, and react

to the same food- I am trying to provide somewhat of an adult perspective as

to how many of these autistic children likely feel- and MORE importantly,

what will likely work for them as well.

An adult guinea pig in a way... someone that can provide feedback as to how

they are feeling, what this 'Neuro-immune' disorder feels like and what

works and doesn't work for me.

Unfortunately there are a lot of products and things out there that 'claim'

to be all natural, and 'green,' but really are not, or are grossly

exaggerated.

I would just love to help a lot of the mothers get the chemicals out of

their children's lives to help them improve. Unfortunately it is very

difficult to always know what is environmentally 'legit' and what isn't.

Since many of the children cannot entirely give proper feedback it can be

very difficult to figure out what is working and what is not. If there is

something I can gain from having to deal with this illness it is the

knowledge I've gained to help others not suffer like I've had to suffer.

In no sense of the imagination do I intend to come off offensive with your

Kristy- especially considering I don't now how severe your condition is, but

while a product might not cause a person to have a dermatological reaction,

or Histamine-1, anti-body allergic response on the outter portion of their

body, that however doesn't necessarily mean it does NOT also cause

Neuro-inflammation in the brain and spinal cord (central nervous system)- of

a documented Neuro-immune sick patient.

It is an easy mistake for many to make since many consider it to be one and

the same... The immune response has several layers and the immune response

on the skin, throat, and airways is vastly different than the one in the

brain and central nervous system. A 'typical' allergic reaction involves

Mast cells releasing histamine, while an immune response in the central

nervous system involves glial cells that release pro-inflammatory cytokines

causing inflammation and slight swelling and brain dysfunction as a result.

So in essence I am trying to put together a list of things I have found to

be Neuro-Immune NEUTRAL... and not adding to the problem.

I would love to learn more about your symptoms and trouble in detail Kristy.

Thanks so much!

-

> >

> > Hi Javan,

> >

> > Can you tell me how you " feel " or react to these chemicals? You said

> > you " can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products " ,

> > does this mean you react physically? I can't tolerate perfumes, my

> > stomach gets upset.

> >

> > TIA,

> > Argie

> >

> > > I am a 27 year old male, and I've had the SPECT scans done back in

> > > 2006.

> > >

> > > I've had all sorts of severe troubles for years and years- and it

> > > has taken me a long time to finally begin figuring out what is

> > > causing 'me' problems.

> > >

> > > I've been seeing Dr. for over two years.

> > >

> > > It has taken a long time to figure a lot of this out but after many

> > > different courses of anti-biotics, pro-biotics, Valtrex, Acyclovir,

> > > Lamisil, Diflucan, Nizoral, etc, etc... and sticking to a strict

> > > diet... It has taken me a long time to realize that I can not

> > > tolerate chemicals, exhaust, synthetic odors, fabric, cleaners, etc.

> > >

> > > I couldn't tell any difference with the meds such as listed above-

> > > but sticking to a diet that is without dairy, wheat/gluten, mostly

> > > organic, oats, fish, etc...

> > >

> > > And avoidance of the things that cause me triggers, I have been

> > > doing much better.

> > >

> > > Over the past many months I've come across more and more studies

> > > linking autism with chemicals... which 'I' believe is a huge over-

> > > looked factor concerning the illness.

> > >

> > > I'll post some links below-

> > >

> > > I want to point out that over the years I myself have never been

> > > diagnosed with Autism, but looking back I have had many of the

> > > symptoms of the illness. I've had trouble my entire life.

> > > I am actually in the process of checking out , Arizona as a

> > > potential place to live because the air quality is supposed to be

> > > very good and there are supposed to be few allergens there as well.

> > >

> > > I have to wash my clothes in a natural laundry soap that we make, I

> > > can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products, I

> > > can't tolerate diesel exhaust, smog, pollution, even news papers,

> > > regular shampoo, conditioner, chemical fertilizer, normal window

> > > cleaner, new carpet, and furniture... newly remodled places, paint,

> > > etc, etc...

> > >

> > > I have some suggested reading for anyone interested...

> > >

> > > One is the book by Dr. Pall; Explaining " Unexplained

> > > illnesses. "

> > >

> > > The other is Overcoming Autism: Dylan's story, By Cristin Fergus.

> > >

> > > The studies linking chemicals to Autism are listed below:

> > >

> > > http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

> <http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

<http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380 & page=1> & page=1>

& page=1

> > >

> > >

>

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=autism-rise-driven-by-envir

> onment

> > >

> > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7006980/

> > >

> > > I can share more information on what I've had to change and what I

> > > have to avoid and maybe post a link for making your own laundry

> > > detergent, as well as places to buy natural cleaners that work ok,

> > > and don't cost too awful much.

> > >

> > > - F.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Most organic cleaners are.  Things that say organic and then say fragrance added

are not safe for people with chemical sensitives.  Some can't handle the smells

of essential oils.  When I first realized that my daughter was chemically

sensitive I ran out and bought all these " green " products.  I quickly noticed

that my daughter reacted the same way to these products.  I have since made the

switch to all natural products.  I now clean with vinegar, baking soda, Borax,

and lemon juice and my daughter isn't as nervous, she isn't acting out, she

doesn't throw things anymore, she is not having tantrums.  Instead she is

working on goals appropriate for her age, she is following 5-6 step directions,

she went to the football game with me last night and watched the game and the

cheerleaders though her monocular and she was focused the entire time.   Let me

add that even trace amounts of soy causes reactions that last several days! 

When I say several I

mean 3-5 days.    At first making the changes were difficult but once I began

to see the improvements I knew that I was onto something.  I had no clue how

significant it was going to be.  I do think that having been on the

protocol has helped and without doing that too we may not be where we are now

but I can tell all of you without a doubt that had I not taken care of allergens

and the chemicals would not be where she is today and that is a very good

place. is wonderful but it isn't everything for every child.  Sheri   

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:30 PM

 

It's not simple green. That stuff is TOXIC.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Javan

Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 4:53 PM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Hi Kristy- thanks for the input.

I did a little research and was looking for the 'all purpose' cleaner you

found/use at COSTCO, and the only one I could find online was the 'SIMPLE

GREEN' all purpose cleaner- which I wanted to say a few things about, but

first.

I've had the NeuroSPECT scan done at UCLA-

You can actually see pictures of 'my' brain and results on this web site

where I posted them.

http://www.ei- resource. org/myblog/ SPECT-Scan- of-Multiple- Chemical-

Sensitivit

y-MCS-Patient- Brain.html

I had the scan done back in 2006, and have been working on treatment, first

with Dr. Goldberg, then with Dr. ever since.

I just want to put out examples that I have had tests, brain scans, loads of

blood work and drug and nutrition treatment for a few yaers...

I don't know a whole lot about your difficulties and such- and I'd like to

learn more.

After getting my NeuroSPECT scan done I was told I have the same scans and

problems they find in Autistic patients.

After doing a lot of research and work with doctors I've come to find out

that my condition seems to 'mostly' be driven by diet and ESPECIALLY

chemicals, fumes, pollution, smog, etc.

When you come into contact with breathing in fumes of different kinds,

perfume, diesel exhaust, regular fabric softener, paint, glue, etc., etc.,

etc.- Do you find yourself having any melt-downs or extreme crying spells,

or totally uncontrollable flashes of anger and rage?

I'm just trying to get an idea as to how severe the problems you deal with

are.

I am not sure if you were talking about the 'SIMPLE GREEN' all purpose

cleaner or not... but I have tried using the 'SIMPLE GREEN' and I can

honestly say it makes my condition much worse... I cannot tolerate it

whatsoever. I know it claims to be natural and biodegradable, but I find

that it effects me just as much if not more than regular cleaner. I have

total and utter meltdowns using it... I find myself incredibly depressed,

very OCD, unable to think clearly, very agitated, and as extreme as it

sounds, sometimes suicidal... it is THAT painful on many levels.

There are strong links of chemicals and environmental pollution playing a

part in Autism as it turns out. Since I have the blood work similar to other

patients, the SPECT brain scans, many of the same problems, and react

to the same food- I am trying to provide somewhat of an adult perspective as

to how many of these autistic children likely feel- and MORE importantly,

what will likely work for them as well.

An adult guinea pig in a way... someone that can provide feedback as to how

they are feeling, what this 'Neuro-immune' disorder feels like and what

works and doesn't work for me.

Unfortunately there are a lot of products and things out there that 'claim'

to be all natural, and 'green,' but really are not, or are grossly

exaggerated.

I would just love to help a lot of the mothers get the chemicals out of

their children's lives to help them improve. Unfortunately it is very

difficult to always know what is environmentally 'legit' and what isn't.

Since many of the children cannot entirely give proper feedback it can be

very difficult to figure out what is working and what is not. If there is

something I can gain from having to deal with this illness it is the

knowledge I've gained to help others not suffer like I've had to suffer.

In no sense of the imagination do I intend to come off offensive with your

Kristy- especially considering I don't now how severe your condition is, but

while a product might not cause a person to have a dermatological reaction,

or Histamine-1, anti-body allergic response on the outter portion of their

body, that however doesn't necessarily mean it does NOT also cause

Neuro-inflammation in the brain and spinal cord (central nervous system)- of

a documented Neuro-immune sick patient.

It is an easy mistake for many to make since many consider it to be one and

the same... The immune response has several layers and the immune response

on the skin, throat, and airways is vastly different than the one in the

brain and central nervous system. A 'typical' allergic reaction involves

Mast cells releasing histamine, while an immune response in the central

nervous system involves glial cells that release pro-inflammatory cytokines

causing inflammation and slight swelling and brain dysfunction as a result.

So in essence I am trying to put together a list of things I have found to

be Neuro-Immune NEUTRAL... and not adding to the problem.

I would love to learn more about your symptoms and trouble in detail Kristy.

Thanks so much!

-

> >

> > Hi Javan,

> >

> > Can you tell me how you " feel " or react to these chemicals? You said

> > you " can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products " ,

> > does this mean you react physically? I can't tolerate perfumes, my

> > stomach gets upset.

> >

> > TIA,

> > Argie

> >

> > > I am a 27 year old male, and I've had the SPECT scans done back in

> > > 2006.

> > >

> > > I've had all sorts of severe troubles for years and years- and it

> > > has taken me a long time to finally begin figuring out what is

> > > causing 'me' problems.

> > >

> > > I've been seeing Dr. for over two years.

> > >

> > > It has taken a long time to figure a lot of this out but after many

> > > different courses of anti-biotics, pro-biotics, Valtrex, Acyclovir,

> > > Lamisil, Diflucan, Nizoral, etc, etc... and sticking to a strict

> > > diet... It has taken me a long time to realize that I can not

> > > tolerate chemicals, exhaust, synthetic odors, fabric, cleaners, etc.

> > >

> > > I couldn't tell any difference with the meds such as listed above-

> > > but sticking to a diet that is without dairy, wheat/gluten, mostly

> > > organic, oats, fish, etc...

> > >

> > > And avoidance of the things that cause me triggers, I have been

> > > doing much better.

> > >

> > > Over the past many months I've come across more and more studies

> > > linking autism with chemicals... which 'I' believe is a huge over-

> > > looked factor concerning the illness.

> > >

> > > I'll post some links below-

> > >

> > > I want to point out that over the years I myself have never been

> > > diagnosed with Autism, but looking back I have had many of the

> > > symptoms of the illness. I've had trouble my entire life.

> > > I am actually in the process of checking out , Arizona as a

> > > potential place to live because the air quality is supposed to be

> > > very good and there are supposed to be few allergens there as well.

> > >

> > > I have to wash my clothes in a natural laundry soap that we make, I

> > > can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products, I

> > > can't tolerate diesel exhaust, smog, pollution, even news papers,

> > > regular shampoo, conditioner, chemical fertilizer, normal window

> > > cleaner, new carpet, and furniture... newly remodled places, paint,

> > > etc, etc...

> > >

> > > I have some suggested reading for anyone interested.. .

> > >

> > > One is the book by Dr. Pall; Explaining " Unexplained

> > > illnesses. "

> > >

> > > The other is Overcoming Autism: Dylan's story, By Cristin Fergus.

> > >

> > > The studies linking chemicals to Autism are listed below:

> > >

> > > http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380

> <http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380

<http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380 & page=1> & page=1>

& page=1

> > >

> > >

>

http://www.scientif icamerican. com/article. cfm?id=autism- rise-driven-

by-envir

> onment

> > >

> > > http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 7006980/

> > >

> > > I can share more information on what I've had to change and what I

> > > have to avoid and maybe post a link for making your own laundry

> > > detergent, as well as places to buy natural cleaners that work ok,

> > > and don't cost too awful much.

> > >

> > > - F.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We started them and it wasn't dosed correctly so we have to go back and work on

the dose.  Since the doctor is in Ohio I think that it will have to wait until

November or even December.  I did consider making a day trip by myself but that

is 7 hours each way and then 3-4 hours at the doctors.  I figure that I will

just wait because soon my husband will be home from Iraq and things won't be as

complicated.  I found shampoo's and soaps.

We do not do serotonin but we did histamine for about 10 months and she is fine

without it now.  Molds are huge for her but she is not longer sensitive to dog

or cat.  YEA! 

My allergist told me that if she is taking drops she needs to be exposed to the

offending foods for them to work.  is fine with soy lecithin and soy oils

it seems to only be the protein. 

As for doing well remember that she had 3 years of under her belt

before doing this so yeast was in a good place (gone) and viral loads are much

lower than before.  As I said I think that is very important.  I wish that

you could have heard the difference in the comments that were made at 's

IEP.  People no longer comment on what is wrong with 's behaviors they are

now looking for what is causing her reactions.  I have turned a room full of

non-believers into believers with the transformation of my child.  Allergy

treatment and control are HUGE!  Oh and btw the chemicals in traditional allergy

shots are the very thing that many chemically affected people have reactions

to.  Then there are the nasal spays and lets not forget antihistamines, cough

syrup and the list goes on.  My daughter reacted to all of these things but I

was shoving them up her nose and down her throat to " make her better " because

that is what needs

to be done.  WRONG!  I now know better.    Heck my daughter reacted to having

her hair washed.  She acted like she was on fire when I washed her hair.  I

could pour water over her head for hours but add one drop of soap and watch her

literally climb the walls of our shower.  I switched to natural shampoo and

was calm from the first shampooing.  My husband said that it was

psychosomatic and so I waited until we were out of natural shampoo and I put

regular shampoo in the bottle and asked my husband to wash her hair.  I did not

tell him what I did until came out of her skin and Ed said see I told

you...I then informed him that he was using regular shampoo and if he didn't

believe me smell it.  He did and told me to get another bottle of that natural

stuff and don't run out ever.  He is now a believer.  He even told me that he

would switch to whatever products necessary when he gets home. 

Heck I am still learning and testing theories.  It is so hard when your child

doesn't talk and can't tell you instead I watch and wait to see reactions. 

I do have an appointment with the cranial facial team in just a few weeks.  I

pray that they can fix her tongue because everyone now believes that it is her

tongue keeping her from talking.  Sheri

From: <jlhank80@...>

Subject: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:21 PM

 

Sheri,

Does do extracts for soy? Or foods for that matter? We are doing them

and they help ALOT. But I am still wondering I should still cut out soy

altogether. Also, are you doing histamine and serotonin? Your daughter is

doing so well, and we are still working out the " bugs " with mine...

Also, if you want some good shampoos and conditioners without essential oils and

safe for chemically sensitive people(really really hard to find!) we use

www.magickbotanical s.com. Awesome products!

-

>

> > >

>

> > > Hi Javan,

>

> > >

>

> > > Can you tell me how you " feel " or react to these chemicals? You said

>

> > > you " can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products " ,

>

> > > does this mean you react physically? I can't tolerate perfumes, my

>

> > > stomach gets upset.

>

> > >

>

> > > TIA,

>

> > > Argie

>

> > >

>

> > > > I am a 27 year old male, and I've had the SPECT scans done back in

>

> > > > 2006.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I've had all sorts of severe troubles for years and years- and it

>

> > > > has taken me a long time to finally begin figuring out what is

>

> > > > causing 'me' problems.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I've been seeing Dr. for over two years.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > It has taken a long time to figure a lot of this out but after many

>

> > > > different courses of anti-biotics, pro-biotics, Valtrex, Acyclovir,

>

> > > > Lamisil, Diflucan, Nizoral, etc, etc... and sticking to a strict

>

> > > > diet... It has taken me a long time to realize that I can not

>

> > > > tolerate chemicals, exhaust, synthetic odors, fabric, cleaners, etc.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I couldn't tell any difference with the meds such as listed above-

>

> > > > but sticking to a diet that is without dairy, wheat/gluten, mostly

>

> > > > organic, oats, fish, etc...

>

> > > >

>

> > > > And avoidance of the things that cause me triggers, I have been

>

> > > > doing much better.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Over the past many months I've come across more and more studies

>

> > > > linking autism with chemicals... which 'I' believe is a huge over-

>

> > > > looked factor concerning the illness.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I'll post some links below-

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I want to point out that over the years I myself have never been

>

> > > > diagnosed with Autism, but looking back I have had many of the

>

> > > > symptoms of the illness. I've had trouble my entire life.

>

> > > > I am actually in the process of checking out , Arizona as a

>

> > > > potential place to live because the air quality is supposed to be

>

> > > > very good and there are supposed to be few allergens there as well.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I have to wash my clothes in a natural laundry soap that we make, I

>

> > > > can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products, I

>

> > > > can't tolerate diesel exhaust, smog, pollution, even news papers,

>

> > > > regular shampoo, conditioner, chemical fertilizer, normal window

>

> > > > cleaner, new carpet, and furniture... newly remodled places, paint,

>

> > > > etc, etc...

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I have some suggested reading for anyone interested.. .

>

> > > >

>

> > > > One is the book by Dr. Pall; Explaining " Unexplained

>

> > > > illnesses. "

>

> > > >

>

> > > > The other is Overcoming Autism: Dylan's story, By Cristin Fergus.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > The studies linking chemicals to Autism are listed below:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380

>

> > <http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380

>

> <http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380 & page=1> & page=1>

>

> & page=1

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> >

>

> http://www.scientif icamerican. com/article. cfm?id=autism- rise-driven-

by-envir

>

> > onment

>

> > > >

>

> > > > http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 7006980/

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I can share more information on what I've had to change and what I

>

> > > > have to avoid and maybe post a link for making your own laundry

>

> > > > detergent, as well as places to buy natural cleaners that work ok,

>

> > > > and don't cost too awful much.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > - F.

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

[Guest guest]

Simple Green makes my eyes water, my head hurt, and my chest tighten &

wheeze.

Walking down the cleaning products aisle at the grocery store does the same

thing.

I have a 7 y.o. son dx'd with autism. He fits the profile.

The more I use natural products in our home, the more quickly I realize when

something isn't natural.

The more I use foods that are not processed with preservatives, additives,

coloring, nitrites, etc. the more quickly I realize when foods have them.

Don't even try to give me unfiltered water. Phew!

Glad to know you're finding what works for you.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Javan

Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:34 AM

Subject: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Oh OK. That is great. Yeah I've had argued with family members over the

Simple Green- them telling me it shouldn't bother me because it is all

natural. It took me a long time to convince them it was making me VERY ill!

Thanks so much for your input Kristy.

Do you mind telling me what type of reactions you experience, and do you

have a child with Autism?

-

> > >

> > > Hi Javan,

> > >

> > > Can you tell me how you " feel " or react to these chemicals? You said

> > > you " can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products " ,

> > > does this mean you react physically? I can't tolerate perfumes, my

> > > stomach gets upset.

> > >

> > > TIA,

> > > Argie

> > >

> > > > I am a 27 year old male, and I've had the SPECT scans done back in

> > > > 2006.

> > > >

> > > > I've had all sorts of severe troubles for years and years- and it

> > > > has taken me a long time to finally begin figuring out what is

> > > > causing 'me' problems.

> > > >

> > > > I've been seeing Dr. for over two years.

> > > >

> > > > It has taken a long time to figure a lot of this out but after many

> > > > different courses of anti-biotics, pro-biotics, Valtrex, Acyclovir,

> > > > Lamisil, Diflucan, Nizoral, etc, etc... and sticking to a strict

> > > > diet... It has taken me a long time to realize that I can not

> > > > tolerate chemicals, exhaust, synthetic odors, fabric, cleaners, etc.

> > > >

> > > > I couldn't tell any difference with the meds such as listed above-

> > > > but sticking to a diet that is without dairy, wheat/gluten, mostly

> > > > organic, oats, fish, etc...

> > > >

> > > > And avoidance of the things that cause me triggers, I have been

> > > > doing much better.

> > > >

> > > > Over the past many months I've come across more and more studies

> > > > linking autism with chemicals... which 'I' believe is a huge over-

> > > > looked factor concerning the illness.

> > > >

> > > > I'll post some links below-

> > > >

> > > > I want to point out that over the years I myself have never been

> > > > diagnosed with Autism, but looking back I have had many of the

> > > > symptoms of the illness. I've had trouble my entire life.

> > > > I am actually in the process of checking out , Arizona as a

> > > > potential place to live because the air quality is supposed to be

> > > > very good and there are supposed to be few allergens there as well.

> > > >

> > > > I have to wash my clothes in a natural laundry soap that we make, I

> > > > can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products, I

> > > > can't tolerate diesel exhaust, smog, pollution, even news papers,

> > > > regular shampoo, conditioner, chemical fertilizer, normal window

> > > > cleaner, new carpet, and furniture... newly remodled places, paint,

> > > > etc, etc...

> > > >

> > > > I have some suggested reading for anyone interested...

> > > >

> > > > One is the book by Dr. Pall; Explaining " Unexplained

> > > > illnesses. "

> > > >

> > > > The other is Overcoming Autism: Dylan's story, By Cristin Fergus.

> > > >

> > > > The studies linking chemicals to Autism are listed below:

> > > >

> > > > http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

> > <http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

> <http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

<http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380 & page=1> & page=1>

& page=1>

> & page=1

> > > >

> > > >

> >

>

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=autism-rise-driven-by-envir

> > onment

> > > >

> > > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7006980/

> > > >

> > > > I can share more information on what I've had to change and what I

> > > > have to avoid and maybe post a link for making your own laundry

> > > > detergent, as well as places to buy natural cleaners that work ok,

> > > > and don't cost too awful much.

> > > >

> > > > - F.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

You sound like you would benefit from an evaluation from an Environmental

Allergist.  The one that I take my daughter to is in Ohio so if you live near

Ohio I will send you his number.  He is not with the Board of Environmental

Allergists but he is wonderful and less expensive than most.  Sheri

From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 11:57 AM

 

Simple Green makes my eyes water, my head hurt, and my chest

tighten &

wheeze.

Walking down the cleaning products aisle at the grocery store does the same

thing.

I have a 7 y.o. son dx'd with autism. He fits the profile.

The more I use natural products in our home, the more quickly I realize when

something isn't natural.

The more I use foods that are not processed with preservatives, additives,

coloring, nitrites, etc. the more quickly I realize when foods have them.

Don't even try to give me unfiltered water. Phew!

Glad to know you're finding what works for you.

Kristy

From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Javan

Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:34 AM

groups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Oh OK. That is great. Yeah I've had argued with family members over the

Simple Green- them telling me it shouldn't bother me because it is all

natural. It took me a long time to convince them it was making me VERY ill!

Thanks so much for your input Kristy.

Do you mind telling me what type of reactions you experience, and do you

have a child with Autism?

-

> > >

> > > Hi Javan,

> > >

> > > Can you tell me how you " feel " or react to these chemicals? You said

> > > you " can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products " ,

> > > does this mean you react physically? I can't tolerate perfumes, my

> > > stomach gets upset.

> > >

> > > TIA,

> > > Argie

> > >

> > > > I am a 27 year old male, and I've had the SPECT scans done back in

> > > > 2006.

> > > >

> > > > I've had all sorts of severe troubles for years and years- and it

> > > > has taken me a long time to finally begin figuring out what is

> > > > causing 'me' problems.

> > > >

> > > > I've been seeing Dr. for over two years.

> > > >

> > > > It has taken a long time to figure a lot of this out but after many

> > > > different courses of anti-biotics, pro-biotics, Valtrex, Acyclovir,

> > > > Lamisil, Diflucan, Nizoral, etc, etc... and sticking to a strict

> > > > diet... It has taken me a long time to realize that I can not

> > > > tolerate chemicals, exhaust, synthetic odors, fabric, cleaners, etc.

> > > >

> > > > I couldn't tell any difference with the meds such as listed above-

> > > > but sticking to a diet that is without dairy, wheat/gluten, mostly

> > > > organic, oats, fish, etc...

> > > >

> > > > And avoidance of the things that cause me triggers, I have been

> > > > doing much better.

> > > >

> > > > Over the past many months I've come across more and more studies

> > > > linking autism with chemicals... which 'I' believe is a huge over-

> > > > looked factor concerning the illness.

> > > >

> > > > I'll post some links below-

> > > >

> > > > I want to point out that over the years I myself have never been

> > > > diagnosed with Autism, but looking back I have had many of the

> > > > symptoms of the illness. I've had trouble my entire life.

> > > > I am actually in the process of checking out , Arizona as a

> > > > potential place to live because the air quality is supposed to be

> > > > very good and there are supposed to be few allergens there as well.

> > > >

> > > > I have to wash my clothes in a natural laundry soap that we make, I

> > > > can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products, I

> > > > can't tolerate diesel exhaust, smog, pollution, even news papers,

> > > > regular shampoo, conditioner, chemical fertilizer, normal window

> > > > cleaner, new carpet, and furniture... newly remodled places, paint,

> > > > etc, etc...

> > > >

> > > > I have some suggested reading for anyone interested.. .

> > > >

> > > > One is the book by Dr. Pall; Explaining " Unexplained

> > > > illnesses. "

> > > >

> > > > The other is Overcoming Autism: Dylan's story, By Cristin Fergus.

> > > >

> > > > The studies linking chemicals to Autism are listed below:

> > > >

> > > > http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380

> > <http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380

> <http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380

<http://abcnews. go.com/Health/ OnCall/story? id=4857380 & page=1> & page=1>

& page=1>

> & page=1

> > > >

> > > >

> >

>

http://www.scientif icamerican. com/article. cfm?id=autism- rise-driven-

by-envir

> > onment

> > > >

> > > > http://www.msnbc. msn.com/id/ 7006980/

> > > >

> > > > I can share more information on what I've had to change and what I

> > > > have to avoid and maybe post a link for making your own laundry

> > > > detergent, as well as places to buy natural cleaners that work ok,

> > > > and don't cost too awful much.

> > > >

> > > > - F.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

The all purpose cleaner is Kirkland brand environmentally friendly all

purpose cleaner. The laundry detergent is the free & clear. The last time

they had a new one, lavender environmentally friendly that I bought but have

not used yet.

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Javan

Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:09 AM

Subject: Re: Mounting research is finding a VERY strong link to

Autism.....

Oh Kristy I'm sorry to hear about that. But I am also glad you too are

finding things that work for you... and I have found the same to be true for

me also, the more i avoid things that bother me the easier time I have

identifying the items I can tolerate.

BTW- do you know the exact name of those products you were talking about at

COSTCO? I might check them out myself.

Thanks

-J

> > > >

> > > > Hi Javan,

> > > >

> > > > Can you tell me how you " feel " or react to these chemicals? You said

> > > > you " can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products " ,

> > > > does this mean you react physically? I can't tolerate perfumes, my

> > > > stomach gets upset.

> > > >

> > > > TIA,

> > > > Argie

> > > >

> > > > > I am a 27 year old male, and I've had the SPECT scans done back in

> > > > > 2006.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've had all sorts of severe troubles for years and years- and it

> > > > > has taken me a long time to finally begin figuring out what is

> > > > > causing 'me' problems.

> > > > >

> > > > > I've been seeing Dr. for over two years.

> > > > >

> > > > > It has taken a long time to figure a lot of this out but after

many

> > > > > different courses of anti-biotics, pro-biotics, Valtrex,

Acyclovir,

> > > > > Lamisil, Diflucan, Nizoral, etc, etc... and sticking to a strict

> > > > > diet... It has taken me a long time to realize that I can not

> > > > > tolerate chemicals, exhaust, synthetic odors, fabric, cleaners,

etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > I couldn't tell any difference with the meds such as listed above-

> > > > > but sticking to a diet that is without dairy, wheat/gluten, mostly

> > > > > organic, oats, fish, etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > And avoidance of the things that cause me triggers, I have been

> > > > > doing much better.

> > > > >

> > > > > Over the past many months I've come across more and more studies

> > > > > linking autism with chemicals... which 'I' believe is a huge over-

> > > > > looked factor concerning the illness.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'll post some links below-

> > > > >

> > > > > I want to point out that over the years I myself have never been

> > > > > diagnosed with Autism, but looking back I have had many of the

> > > > > symptoms of the illness. I've had trouble my entire life.

> > > > > I am actually in the process of checking out , Arizona as a

> > > > > potential place to live because the air quality is supposed to be

> > > > > very good and there are supposed to be few allergens there as

well.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have to wash my clothes in a natural laundry soap that we make,

I

> > > > > can't tolerate anything but purely natural cleaning products, I

> > > > > can't tolerate diesel exhaust, smog, pollution, even news papers,

> > > > > regular shampoo, conditioner, chemical fertilizer, normal window

> > > > > cleaner, new carpet, and furniture... newly remodled places,

paint,

> > > > > etc, etc...

> > > > >

> > > > > I have some suggested reading for anyone interested...

> > > > >

> > > > > One is the book by Dr. Pall; Explaining " Unexplained

> > > > > illnesses. "

> > > > >

> > > > > The other is Overcoming Autism: Dylan's story, By Cristin Fergus.

> > > > >

> > > > > The studies linking chemicals to Autism are listed below:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

> > > <http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

> > <http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

> <http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380

<http://abcnews.go.com/Health/OnCall/story?id=4857380 & page=1> & page=1>

& page=1>

> & page=1>

> > & page=1

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=autism-rise-driven-by-envir

> > > onment

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7006980/

> > > > >

> > > > > I can share more information on what I've had to change and what I

> > > > > have to avoid and maybe post a link for making your own laundry

> > > > > detergent, as well as places to buy natural cleaners that work ok,

> > > > > and don't cost too awful much.

> > > > >

> > > > > - F.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >