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Kendra

I think someone asked you for some information? Such as which school do you

attend? I don't recall seeing any response from you on this. I would be

very grateful if you would post details.

Many thanks,

Celia

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> Hi everyone,

> I have some questions to ask if it is ok. I was wondering first of all,

what the current laws are in the United States and the UK concerning

receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. I have read about

doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I believe

that was in the UK. Do doctors in the US simply not have access to the

vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from offering

this option to parents?

> Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in order to

be allowed in public schools. I know that there was a new one this year

saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain date to be

attending school. Are there certain laws that keep children w/out MMR

vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle these kinds

of conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child?

> Thank you very much,

> Kendra

>

>

> -----------------------------------

> Visit the Student Center Network at

> http://www.studentcenter.org

>

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Kendra,

The April 2001 issue of " Mothering Magazine " and Dr. Cave's book " What

Your Doctor May Not Have Told You About Childhood Vaccines " might prove helpful

to you.

S

On Sat, 02 February 2002, Kendra888@... wrote:

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> Hi everyone,<BR>

> I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & nbsp; I was wondering first of all,

what the current laws are in the United States and the UK concerning receiving

the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & nbsp; I have read about doctors being

reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I believe that was in the

UK. & nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have access to the vaccinations

separately and/or is there a law keeping them from offering this option to

parents?<BR>

> Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in order to be

allowed in public schools. & nbsp; I know that there was a new one this year

saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain date to be

attending school. & nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep children w/out MMR

vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle these kinds of

conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child?<BR>

> Thank you very much,<BR>

> Kendra<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> -----------------------------------<BR>

> Visit the Student Center Network at<BR>

> <a href= " http://www.studentcenter.org " >http://www.studentcenter.org</a><BR>

> </tt>

>

>

> <br>

> <tt>

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To put it simply (if that is possible), all states have different rules

regarding immunizations and exemptions from immunizations. The single shots

as compared to the multiple is available but not common and most (not all)

doctors will hassle you if you ask for them. If you haven't been there this

is a good site for just that info:

www.thinktwice.com

Tana

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Kendra888@... [mailto:Kendra888@...]

>

> Hi everyone,

> I have some questions to ask if it is ok. I was wondering first

> of all, what the current laws are in the United States and the UK

> concerning receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. I

> have read about doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots

> separately, but I believe that was in the UK. Do doctors in the

> US simply not have access to the vaccinations separately and/or

> is there a law keeping them from offering this option to parents?

> Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in

> order to be allowed in public schools. I know that there was a

> new one this year saying that you had to have the Hep B

> vaccination by a certain date to be attending school. Are there

> certain laws that keep children w/out MMR vaccine from attending

> schools and if so, how do parents handle these kinds of conflicts

> when choosing not to vaccinate their child?

> Thank you very much,

> Kendra

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Thank you very much! I will look into obtaining these at my library.

Take care,

Kendra

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> Kendra,<BR>

> The April 2001 issue of & quot;Mothering Magazine & quot; and Dr.

Cave's book & quot;What Your Doctor May Not Have Told You About Childhood

Vaccines & quot; might prove helpful to you.<BR>

> S<BR>

> <BR>

> On Sat, 02 February 2002, Kendra888@... wrote:<BR>

> <BR>

> & gt; <BR>

> & gt; & lt;html & gt; & lt;body & gt;<BR>

> & gt; <BR>

> & gt; <BR>

> & gt; & lt;tt & gt;<BR>

> & gt; Hi everyone, & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & amp;nbsp; I was wondering first

of all, what the current laws are in the United States and the UK concerning

receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & amp;nbsp; I have read about

doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I believe that

was in the UK. & amp;nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have access to the

vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from offering this

option to parents? & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in order to

be allowed in public schools. & amp;nbsp; I know that there was a new one this

year saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain date to be

attending school. & amp;nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep children w/out MMR

vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle these kinds of

conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child? & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; Thank you very much, & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; Kendra & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; ----------------------------------- & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; Visit the Student Center Network at & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & lt;a href= & quot;<a

href= " http://www.studentcenter.org " >http://www.studentcenter.org</a> & quot; & gt;<a

href= " http://www.studentcenter.org " >http://www.studentcenter.org</a> & lt;/a & gt; & l\

t;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & lt;/tt & gt;<BR>

> & gt; <BR>

> & gt; <BR>

> & gt; & lt;br & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & lt;tt & gt;<BR>

> & gt; ======================================================= & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt;

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Celia,

I don't recall seeing anyone requesting that information, but if I had I would

have responded.. sorry about that! I am a sophomore at a high school in the

United States. I'm sure that no one would wish me to disclose any more

information about myself than that.. I also post on the #autism channel message

board and the Autinet email list if that provides any more details about myself.

Take care,

Kendra

On Sat, 02 February 2002, " C.Forrest " wrote:

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> Kendra<BR>

> I think someone asked you for some information? Such as which school do

you<BR>

> attend? I don't recall seeing any response from you on this. & nbsp; I would

be<BR>

> very grateful if you would post details.<BR>

> Many thanks,<BR>

> Celia<BR>

> '<BR>

> [ ] Questions<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> & gt; Hi everyone,<BR>

> & gt; I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & nbsp; I was wondering first of

all,<BR>

> what the current laws are in the United States and the UK concerning<BR>

> receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & nbsp; I have read about<BR>

> doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I believe<BR>

> that was in the UK. & nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have access to

the<BR>

> vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from offering<BR>

> this option to parents?<BR>

> & gt; Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in order

to<BR>

> be allowed in public schools. & nbsp; I know that there was a new one this

year<BR>

> saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain date to be<BR>

> attending school. & nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep children w/out

MMR<BR>

> vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle these

kinds<BR>

> of conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child?<BR>

> & gt; Thank you very much,<BR>

> & gt; Kendra<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> & gt; -----------------------------------<BR>

> & gt; Visit the Student Center Network at<BR>

> & gt; <a

href= " http://www.studentcenter.org " >http://www.studentcenter.org</a><BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> & gt; =======================================================<BR>

> & gt;

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>> Hi everyone,<BR>

>> I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & nbsp; I was wondering first of

all, what the current laws are in the United States and the UK concerning

receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & nbsp; I have read about

doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I believe

that was in the UK. & nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have access to

the vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from

offering this option to parents?<BR>

>> Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in order

to be allowed in public schools. & nbsp; I know that there was a new one this

year saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain date to

be attending school. & nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep children w/out

MMR vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle these

kinds of conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child?<BR>

>> Thank you very much,<BR>

>> Kendra<BR>

Hi Kendra,

You will find some good info here on vaccine exemptions, and related stuff:

http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/parent3.htm#vaccines

Also, the group " vaccinations " may be some help

Vaccinations/

(I think they have some files or bookmarks about this, but I'm actually

not sure=== I don't read too much of the posts there...just can't read

everything!)

I'm glad that you are interested in this subject, and I'm sure your

report will help you and others to learn more.

best wishes,

Moria

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> > Kendra<BR>

> > I think someone asked you for some information? Such as which

school do you<BR>

> > attend? I don't recall seeing any response from you on this. & nbsp;

I would be<BR>

> > very grateful if you would post details.<BR>

> > Many thanks,<BR>

> > Celia<BR>

> > '<BR>

> > [ ] Questions<BR>

> > <BR>

> > <BR>

> > & gt; Hi everyone,<BR>

> > & gt; I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & nbsp; I was

wondering first of all,<BR>

> > what the current laws are in the United States and the UK

concerning<BR>

> > receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & nbsp; I have

read about<BR>

> > doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I

believe<BR>

> > that was in the UK. & nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have

access to the<BR>

> > vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from

offering<BR>

> > this option to parents?<BR>

> > & gt; Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations

in order to<BR>

> > be allowed in public schools. & nbsp; I know that there was a new

one this year<BR>

> > saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain

date to be<BR>

> > attending school. & nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep children

w/out MMR<BR>

> > vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle

these kinds<BR>

> > of conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child?<BR>

> > & gt; Thank you very much,<BR>

> > & gt; Kendra<BR>

> > & gt;<BR>

> > & gt;<BR>

> > & gt; -----------------------------------<BR>

> > & gt; Visit the Student Center Network at<BR>

> > & gt; <a

href= " http://www.studentcenter.org " >http://www.studentcenter.org</a><B

R>

> > & gt;<BR>

> > & gt; =======================================================<BR>

> > & gt;

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Kendra,

Andy's post below echo's my sentiments entirely. Your 'vague' response to my

request is not appropriate.

Celia

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> > > <BR>

> > > <BR>

> > > & gt; Hi everyone,<BR>

> > > & gt; I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & nbsp; I was

> wondering first of all,<BR>

> > > what the current laws are in the United States and the UK

> concerning<BR>

> > > receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & nbsp; I have

> read about<BR>

> > > doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I

> believe<BR>

> > > that was in the UK. & nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have

> access to the<BR>

> > > vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from

> offering<BR>

> > > this option to parents?<BR>

> > > & gt; Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations

> in order to<BR>

> > > be allowed in public schools. & nbsp; I know that there was a new

> one this year<BR>

> > > saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain

> date to be<BR>

> > > attending school. & nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep children

> w/out MMR<BR>

> > > vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle

> these kinds<BR>

> > > of conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child?<BR>

> > > & gt; Thank you very much,<BR>

> > > & gt; Kendra<BR>

> > > & gt;<BR>

> > > & gt;<BR>

> > > & gt; -----------------------------------<BR>

> > > & gt; Visit the Student Center Network at<BR>

> > > & gt; <a

> href= " http://www.studentcenter.org " >http://www.studentcenter.org</a><B

> R>

> > > & gt;<BR>

> > > & gt; =======================================================<BR>

> > > & gt;

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Thanks Tana, I will add it to my list of the many resources I have collected so

far.. Thanks!

Take care,

Kendra

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> To put it simply (if that is possible), all states have different rules<BR>

> regarding immunizations and exemptions from immunizations. The single

shots<BR>

> as compared to the multiple is available but not common and most (not all)<BR>

> doctors will hassle you if you ask for them. If you haven't been there

this<BR>

> is a good site for just that info:<BR>

> <BR>

> www.thinktwice.com<BR>

> <BR>

> Tana<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> & gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>

> & gt; From: Kendra888@...

[mailto:Kendra888@...]<BR>

> & gt;<BR>

> & gt; Hi everyone,<BR>

> & gt; I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & nbsp; I was wondering first<BR>

> & gt; of all, what the current laws are in the United States and the UK<BR>

> & gt; concerning receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & nbsp; I<BR>

> & gt; have read about doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots<BR>

> & gt; separately, but I believe that was in the UK. & nbsp; Do doctors in the<BR>

> & gt; US simply not have access to the vaccinations separately and/or<BR>

> & gt; is there a law keeping them from offering this option to parents?<BR>

> & gt; Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in<BR>

> & gt; order to be allowed in public schools. & nbsp; I know that there was a<BR>

> & gt; new one this year saying that you had to have the Hep B<BR>

> & gt; vaccination by a certain date to be attending school. & nbsp; Are there<BR>

> & gt; certain laws that keep children w/out MMR vaccine from attending<BR>

> & gt; schools and if so, how do parents handle these kinds of conflicts<BR>

> & gt; when choosing not to vaccinate their child?<BR>

> & gt; Thank you very much,<BR>

> & gt; Kendra<BR>

> <BR>

> </tt>

>

> <br>

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Moria,

thanks for the info!! I almost forgot about Dana's webpage.. know there is a lot

of good stuff there and there are constantly updates on the message board about

updates to the page.

Take care,

Kendra

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> & gt; & gt; Hi everyone, & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & amp;nbsp; I was wondering

first of<BR>

> all, what the current laws are in the United States and the UK concerning<BR>

> receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & amp;nbsp; I have read

about<BR>

> doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I believe<BR>

> that was in the UK. & amp;nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have access

to<BR>

> the vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from<BR>

> offering this option to parents? & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning vaccinations in

order<BR>

> to be allowed in public schools. & amp;nbsp; I know that there was a new one

this<BR>

> year saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain date

to<BR>

> be attending school. & amp;nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep children

w/out<BR>

> MMR vaccine from attending schools and if so, how do parents handle these<BR>

> kinds of conflicts when choosing not to vaccinate their child? & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; Thank you very much, & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; Kendra & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> <BR>

> Hi Kendra,<BR>

> <BR>

> You will find some good info here on vaccine exemptions, and related

stuff:<BR>

> <a

href= " http://www.autismchannel.net/dana/parent3.htm#vaccines " >http://www.autismc\

hannel.net/dana/parent3.htm#vaccines</a><BR>

> Also, the group & quot;vaccinations & quot; may be some help<BR>

> <a

href= " Vaccinations/ " >group\

/Vaccinations/</a><BR>

> (I think they have some files or bookmarks about this, but I'm actually<BR>

> not sure=== I don't read too much of the posts there...just can't read<BR>

> everything!)<BR>

> <BR>

> I'm glad that you are interested in this subject, and I'm sure your<BR>

> report will help you and others to learn more.<BR>

> <BR>

> best wishes,<BR>

> Moria<BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> <BR>

> </tt>

>

> <br>

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Andy,

I do not mean to be difficult or rude in any way. If this is really a huge

issue, I will leave the list. I do not feel comfortable giving out personal

information like what state I live in to people I have just met, let alone the

town, or my last name.. it's not something that a teenager should be doing

online. I know that many people do post this information about themselves but

they don't have to worry about the same things that a kid does.. I am a

frequenter user of the #autism channel and if you stop in any time of day, I am

sure there will be someone there who will know who I am.. but if this is really

a big issue, I don't wish to create a disturbance so I will leave the group. I

hope you can understand that I simply can not give out that information to

anyone... it is not safe.

Take care,

Kendra

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> & gt; & gt; <BR>

> & gt; & gt; <BR>

> & gt; & gt; & lt;tt & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; Kendra & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; I think someone asked you for some information? Such as which <BR>

> school do you & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; attend? I don't recall seeing any response from you on

this. & amp;nbsp; <BR>

> I would be & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; very grateful if you would post details. & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; Many thanks, & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; Celia & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; ' & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; [ ] Questions & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Hi everyone, & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; & amp;gt; I have some questions to ask if it is ok. & amp;nbsp; I was

<BR>

> wondering first of all, & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; what the current laws are in the United States and the UK <BR>

> concerning & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; receiving the MMR vaccination as 3 separate shots. & amp;nbsp; I have

<BR>

> read about & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; doctors being reprimanded for offering the shots separately, but I

<BR>

> believe & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; that was in the UK. & amp;nbsp; Do doctors in the US simply not have

<BR>

> access to the & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; vaccinations separately and/or is there a law keeping them from <BR>

> offering & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; this option to parents? & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; & amp;gt; Also, what kinds of laws are in place concerning

vaccinations <BR>

> in order to & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; be allowed in public schools. & amp;nbsp; I know that there was a new

<BR>

> one this year & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; saying that you had to have the Hep B vaccination by a certain <BR>

> date to be & lt;BR & gt;<BR>

> & gt; & gt; attending school. & amp;nbsp; Are there certain laws that keep

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Renie:

It is good to meet you. You do have a lot going on right now. I hope

this board can give you some stress relief. We are here for you.

If you really like your ped., they should refer you to a neurosurgen

who will then refer you to the band company. If you are lucky, you

might have a few offices near you for the band. My son is using the

DOC band, but I'm sure Starband has a website with their offices

listed. I would call all the offices and get a feel for the place. I

am driving 2 1/2 hrs. one way instead of 30 minutes because I had a

bad feeling about the local place. Ask if you can come by for a tour

and speak with them (I know your time is limited, but in the long

run, you may feel better)

Good Luck and keep us updated.

Angie and Dominic DOC band #1 7/7 #2 8/20

> Thanks all for the replies. As there are so many thousands of

> messages on here, I am finding it difficult to go back and find

what

> I need, so bear with me please:) Since you all seem to be the

> only " experts " that I can locate (hehehe) can you all maybe give me

a

> list of questions that I should ask the ortho and maybe I can then

> tell you all the answers and get some help on whether or not he

seems

> experienced enough to do the job? It would greatly be appreciated.

I

> just cant seem to find anyone local who knows much about the

> starband. Logan's EIC (Early childhood intervention) Nurse handles

> hundreds of children's cases in my area and has yet to have a child

> that needed a band, so they havent been much help either. Since I

> havent really said much about myself or Logan on here, I will take

> the time to do it. My husband is a sergeant in the Army's Military

> Intelligence Batallion. We have a daughter who is 2 and Logan

> who is 10 months. had tort when she was an infant, but pt

fixed

> it. Logan however, has no tort, but is very developmentally

delayed.

> He is below the 5th percentile on his weight and not even on the

> charts for his height. He tends to have arm and leg tremors which

are

> soon to be evaluated to see if they may be seizures. Logan is not

> mentally slow but only can function at about a 5 month old level.

He

> is in physical therapy, has a special chair to help him sit, and

now

> is getting banded. So as you see, there is quite a bit of stress

here

> at home right now. All this with in the past month. Wouldnt you

know

> it, being a mother, I just assumed he was a littler boy than most

but

> over all healthy with a flat head. Who knew what it all turns out

to

> be. :)

>

> Still smiling

> Renie

> Logan's mom

> san antonio, tx

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Renie,

I'm glad you're still smiling! That is a great thing. It's really

good that you're " doing your homework " about plagio and wanting a

list of questions to ask! Here is a link just for that:

http://www.cappskids.org/QuestionsForTheDoctorAndOrthotist.htm

I'm going to send this link to your email too. Please keep us posted

on Logan.

> Thanks all for the replies. As there are so many thousands of

> messages on here, I am finding it difficult to go back and find

what

> I need, so bear with me please:) Since you all seem to be the

> only " experts " that I can locate (hehehe) can you all maybe give me

a

> list of questions that I should ask the ortho and maybe I can then

> tell you all the answers and get some help on whether or not he

seems

> experienced enough to do the job? It would greatly be appreciated.

I

> just cant seem to find anyone local who knows much about the

> starband. Logan's EIC (Early childhood intervention) Nurse handles

> hundreds of children's cases in my area and has yet to have a child

> that needed a band, so they havent been much help either. Since I

> havent really said much about myself or Logan on here, I will take

> the time to do it. My husband is a sergeant in the Army's Military

> Intelligence Batallion. We have a daughter who is 2 and Logan

> who is 10 months. had tort when she was an infant, but pt

fixed

> it. Logan however, has no tort, but is very developmentally

delayed.

> He is below the 5th percentile on his weight and not even on the

> charts for his height. He tends to have arm and leg tremors which

are

> soon to be evaluated to see if they may be seizures. Logan is not

> mentally slow but only can function at about a 5 month old level.

He

> is in physical therapy, has a special chair to help him sit, and

now

> is getting banded. So as you see, there is quite a bit of stress

here

> at home right now. All this with in the past month. Wouldnt you

know

> it, being a mother, I just assumed he was a littler boy than most

but

> over all healthy with a flat head. Who knew what it all turns out

to

> be. :)

>

> Still smiling

> Renie

> Logan's mom

> san antonio, tx

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Hi,

Welcome to the group. Yes, it is still possible for your son to

reveivce correction should you band him. My baby was banded from the

time she was 11 months and one week old until she was 22 months old.

We saw correction in her " older " months. She received a lot of

correction from her 3rd band.

The bands do not hurt our babies, they aren't tight at all. They are

very lightweight. The DOCband weighs about 6 oz. Most babies adjust

very quickly to their bands. I never had a problem with my daughter

trying to take her band off.

I honestly think your pediatrician is wrong. Cranial Tech will not

recommend banding if they don't think it will benefit the baby. If

Cranial Tech told you they recommend you banding your son, then I

really think you should do it.

As for insurance, I can't help you out with that, my insurance comp

wouldn't pay anything. Please keep us posted on your decision, good

luck making it.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " robertwfinke " <rfinke@o...>

wrote:

> We are considering banding our 18 month son who has a mild

> flattening on his back right side. We brought him to CT in Clinton

> CT and were told that there was a chance that it could be corrected

> somewhat. We had x-rays taken and learned that his skull sutures

> are still open.

>

> Questions:

>

> How will he react to the band? Is he constantly going to be

> attempting to rip this off his head? Is it tight? Painful? He's

a

> pretty rambunctious little guy and we can barely keep mittens on

him.

>

> What are the issues with insurance coverage?

>

> Does anyone know what kind of chances an 18 month has for

> correction? Our pediatrician does not think that banding is

> necessary for our son and that he will grow out of it (that's why

we

> waited this long). Are we crazy?

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hello there!

My son was banded from 12-19 months. He received his greatest amount

of correction from months 16-17. Of course at this age the amount of

correction will not be the same as if you had banded your son at an

earlier age but I would expect some decent correction nonetheless.

The bands are not tight so they don't cause headaches or anything.

Insurance coverage really varies. My insurance paid 90% of 2

DOCbands without any hassle, unfortuately others have not had such

luck. CT should be able to tell you what to expect, good luck!

Natasha

Atlanta, GA

--- In Plagiocephaly , " robertwfinke " <rfinke@o...>

wrote:

> We are considering banding our 18 month son who has a mild

> flattening on his back right side. We brought him to CT in Clinton

> CT and were told that there was a chance that it could be corrected

> somewhat. We had x-rays taken and learned that his skull sutures

> are still open.

>

> Questions:

>

> How will he react to the band? Is he constantly going to be

> attempting to rip this off his head? Is it tight? Painful? He's

a

> pretty rambunctious little guy and we can barely keep mittens on

him.

>

> What are the issues with insurance coverage?

>

> Does anyone know what kind of chances an 18 month has for

> correction? Our pediatrician does not think that banding is

> necessary for our son and that he will grow out of it (that's why

we

> waited this long). Are we crazy?

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Hi & welcome to our group:

Cranial Tech will band babies up til age 24 mos so long as the

sutures are still open, which your son's are, so there is still time

to receive correcton from the band. It's good that your son's plagio

is mild.

The amt of correction he'll receive is impossible to predict.

Depends on growth spurts & such.

Babies adapt to the band very well for the most part. Some do try to

take the bands off, although believe it or not, that is uncommon (but

not unheard of!). The DOCband is definitely not at all tight on the

baby's head & is very lightweight (6 oz). The band is most

definitely not at all painful to children. My daughter didn't like

hats on top of her head, but she couldn't care less about her bands,

I'll never understand that! LOL But I wasn't complaining!

This is the first time I can remember hearing a pediatrician say not

to get a band cuz the child will outgrow it..Yes, some babies do

outgrow their band, then they get a new one fitted for them.

Some do need 2nd or even 3rd bands as their heads grow, but in your

son's older age 18 mos, his head growth has slowed significantly and

will more than likely require just one band.

What ins. do you have? Some insurance companies cover bands, some

don't, some do on appeal.

Good luck w/your difficult decision, keep us posted on whatever you

do.

Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad

MI

--- In Plagiocephaly , " robertwfinke " <rfinke@o...>

wrote:

> We are considering banding our 18 month son who has a mild

> flattening on his back right side. We brought him to CT in Clinton

> CT and were told that there was a chance that it could be corrected

> somewhat. We had x-rays taken and learned that his skull sutures

> are still open.

>

> Questions:

>

> How will he react to the band? Is he constantly going to be

> attempting to rip this off his head? Is it tight? Painful? He's

a

> pretty rambunctious little guy and we can barely keep mittens on

him.

>

> What are the issues with insurance coverage?

>

> Does anyone know what kind of chances an 18 month has for

> correction? Our pediatrician does not think that banding is

> necessary for our son and that he will grow out of it (that's why

we

> waited this long). Are we crazy?

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Welcome to the group. I believe correction can still occurr since the stutures are still open. My daughter was banded at 9 months and the ban never bothered her. We had a head remolding exclusion in our insurance so the band wasn't covered. Many people have changed Drs to find a band family Dr. Keep us updated.

Angie and Jenna(STAR band grad)

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We are considering banding our 18 month son who has a mild flattening on his back right side. We brought him to CT in Clinton CT and were told that there was a chance that it could be corrected somewhat. We had x-rays taken and learned that his skull sutures are still open.Questions:How will he react to the band? Is he constantly going to be attempting to rip this off his head? Is it tight? Painful? He's a pretty rambunctious little guy and we can barely keep mittens on him.What are the issues with insurance coverage?Does anyone know what kind of chances an 18 month has for correction? Our pediatrician does not think that banding is necessary for our son and that he will grow out of it (that's why we waited this long). Are we crazy?For more plagio info

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Hi and welcome to the group!! I will agree with the others on this.

Let us know how things go.

Dustie, mom to , DOCGrad'03

--- In Plagiocephaly , " robertwfinke " <rfinke@o...>

wrote:

> We are considering banding our 18 month son who has a mild

> flattening on his back right side. We brought him to CT in Clinton

> CT and were told that there was a chance that it could be corrected

> somewhat. We had x-rays taken and learned that his skull sutures

> are still open.

>

> Questions:

>

> How will he react to the band? Is he constantly going to be

> attempting to rip this off his head? Is it tight? Painful? He's

a

> pretty rambunctious little guy and we can barely keep mittens on

him.

>

> What are the issues with insurance coverage?

>

> Does anyone know what kind of chances an 18 month has for

> correction? Our pediatrician does not think that banding is

> necessary for our son and that he will grow out of it (that's why

we

> waited this long). Are we crazy?

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Hi there

I'm glad your daughter is sleeping better, that's great news. I

can't answer all your questions, but the one I can quickly help with

is no, you don't need to keep repoing now, so you can relax as the

helmet is doing all the hard work!

Hannah (mum to Lucia, London, UK)

Cranio grad

--- In Plagiocephaly , " goldnvalli " <goldnvalli@a...>

wrote:

>

> I have some questions.

>

> While reading the board I have come up with some questions.

> Hopefully someone can help me answer them.

>

> My daughter has a hanger helmet. Is that different than a doc

band

> or a star band? If so, how is it different?

>

> Do I still have to do repo if she is in the helmet?

>

> She is a mild case and the doctor left the decision of using

helmet

> up to my husband and I. He said that it was just cosmetic. Is

that

> possible?

>

> I don't have any numbers on her. I asked the orthodist yesterday

how

> would we know if she improved, are there any numbers or

> measurements. I know he took measurements when she was scanned.

He

> said that we would know by looking at her. Is that good enough?

>

> Some people say that their children needed two bands, could that

> happen to me? If so do I have to pay for the second one as well?

My

> insurance only covered $1000, will they cover a second helmet?

>

> I have other questions, but I can't think of them now. If anyoone

> could help me out, I'd appreciate it. I followed advice about not

> overdressing her and she slept perfectly well in the helmet. We

are

> off to a good start again. Hopefully she wont get that heat rash

> again.

>

>

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Hi ,

To answer your questions:

The Hanger band is an active band just like the DOC and STAR bands.

No, you don't have to repo her now that she's banded.

I don't think plagio is cosmetic in any case.

Yes, gauging progress by eye is very common! Measurments are usually

only taken if it's required by the insurance company.

Some insurance companies will cover a second band as it's considered

a continuation of treatment.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " goldnvalli " <goldnvalli@a...>

wrote:

>

> I have some questions.

>

> While reading the board I have come up with some questions.

> Hopefully someone can help me answer them.

>

> My daughter has a hanger helmet. Is that different than a doc band

> or a star band? If so, how is it different?

>

> Do I still have to do repo if she is in the helmet?

>

> She is a mild case and the doctor left the decision of using helmet

> up to my husband and I. He said that it was just cosmetic. Is that

> possible?

>

> I don't have any numbers on her. I asked the orthodist yesterday

how

> would we know if she improved, are there any numbers or

> measurements. I know he took measurements when she was scanned.

He

> said that we would know by looking at her. Is that good enough?

>

> Some people say that their children needed two bands, could that

> happen to me? If so do I have to pay for the second one as well?

My

> insurance only covered $1000, will they cover a second helmet?

>

> I have other questions, but I can't think of them now. If anyoone

> could help me out, I'd appreciate it. I followed advice about not

> overdressing her and she slept perfectly well in the helmet. We

are

> off to a good start again. Hopefully she wont get that heat rash

> again.

>

>

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,

already very succinctly answered all of your questions!

I am happy to hear that she slept so well in her Hanger band

already. Please post if you think of the other questions you wanted

to ask,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " goldnvalli " <goldnvalli@a...>

wrote:

>

> I have some questions.

>

> While reading the board I have come up with some questions.

> Hopefully someone can help me answer them.

>

> My daughter has a hanger helmet. Is that different than a doc

band

> or a star band? If so, how is it different?

>

> Do I still have to do repo if she is in the helmet?

>

> She is a mild case and the doctor left the decision of using

helmet

> up to my husband and I. He said that it was just cosmetic. Is

that

> possible?

>

> I don't have any numbers on her. I asked the orthodist yesterday

how

> would we know if she improved, are there any numbers or

> measurements. I know he took measurements when she was scanned.

He

> said that we would know by looking at her. Is that good enough?

>

> Some people say that their children needed two bands, could that

> happen to me? If so do I have to pay for the second one as well?

My

> insurance only covered $1000, will they cover a second helmet?

>

> I have other questions, but I can't think of them now. If anyoone

> could help me out, I'd appreciate it. I followed advice about not

> overdressing her and she slept perfectly well in the helmet. We

are

> off to a good start again. Hopefully she wont get that heat rash

> again.

>

>

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>

> How many of you with saline implants felt better( joint pain etc...)

after

> explant ? And how many of you had to detox etc.... Thanks

>

,

I had saline and explant and I feel much better as far as the

neurological stuff goes,I still have hip and low back pain and I am

currently doing detoxing, I also still have one partial capsule that

remains in the left breast, I did not know about enbloc when I had my

explant my PS only removed the right capsule due to capsular

contraction, I believe that is hindering me that it contains bacteria

and yucky stuff, I was recently diagnosed with a bad staff infection

and have a high sediment rate which is going to be further tested.

Terri P

Hawaii

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Thanks Girls, don't get me wrong I do feel better, but never can I just have a lazy day....it makes me feel awful. All these things people say take, milk thistle x, fish oil, etc....how much stuff can you take together and how much is to much ? It scares me. Doctors can't advice on this since it's natural and vitamins. Thanks

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Oh, yeah, , it sounds very familiar. It helps to get up and stretch often and get your circulation going. It's probably very sluggish. There are things you can do throughout the day to stimulate it-- moving around a little every hour, getting some exercise, hot showers, eating GARLIC and small amounts of hot chilies, getting massages (from your hubby!). I find exercise is essential.

It'll get better~

Bindi

Questions

As you all know I had my saline implants removed about 5 months ago and I am feeling a lot better, but I have bad days for no reason at all, and also everytime I try and lay around or sit around for more than 2 hours at a time watching a movie with my husband my neck and across my shoulders get so stiff, it's almost as though my shoulders don't like touching the back of the couch. Anyone have this ? Its so weird >

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