Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 My son did LiFT (listening fitness) last summer (and he's currently doing a 2 week booster) and it was AMAZING. He is like a different kid. He is much more regulated and it's clear he can process what he hears much more efficiently. His expressive language and social skills have really developed as a result. Kristy Nardini TazziniTM Stainless Steel Bottles www.tazzini.com kristy@... Phone: 858.243.1929 Fax: 858.724.1418 P Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of alaine Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:00 AM Subject: Reading and Listening program question Happy New Year to everyone! Just a quick update since we're about 10 weeks into Play Attention w/ . Definitely seeing improvements, and he wants to do it, which makes things ALOT easier! Looking forward to filling in other gaps - his reading progress in school is pretty slow, so we were thinking about looking into mood Bell for the summer. But, his focus is also still a huge challenge - part of it is definitely avoidance behavior, and Dr G thinks there could be some auditory processing difficulty. So then I started to think about the Dynamic Listening System (a colleague just finished up that program for her son and it's worked wonders) first, to help with the listening and processing. Our speech therapist speaks very highly of both programs, but I figured would get more out of the reading program once his listening skills have improved. Has anyone done either or both? What did you think? Thanks, Alaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I have not heard about the listening program but have the Play Attention system also and have seen results with that. The same educational consultant that recommended this to me a while ago, also recommended a reading program for my son. He is not a consutant for this program but just researches things and finds things that are the best. It is a program that is call Phono-graphix and is not the same as phonics. You can go to www.readamerica.net  website and get information on it there, or purchase the book for only about $20 or so.  It is called Phono-graphix- Reading Reflex by Carmen and Geoffry McGuinness.  Do not let the book overwhelm you, once you get what they are doing the whole book just follows suit. They also have complementary workbooks that you can purchase online for pretty cheap. It really makes alot of sense and works very well for ASD kids and kids who have trouble with reading and need remediation. It helps kids learn how to decode without learning so many rules. I am going to use it with my younger NT child also. There are also consultants across the country who do direct work with kids and coach parents. We do not have one in our area or I would do this also, but consult with someone by phone for support when needed. This way of learning to read makes so much sense, I wished I learned to read this way, I highly recommend it. Angie      ________________________________ From: alaine <alaineandpaul@...> Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 7:00:29 AM Subject: Reading and Listening program question  Happy New Year to everyone! Just a quick update since we're about 10 weeks into Play Attention w/ . Definitely seeing improvements, and he wants to do it, which makes things ALOT easier! Looking forward to filling in other gaps - his reading progress in school is pretty slow, so we were thinking about looking into mood Bell for the summer. But, his focus is also still a huge challenge - part of it is definitely avoidance behavior, and Dr G thinks there could be some auditory processing difficulty. So then I started to think about the Dynamic Listening System (a colleague just finished up that program for her son and it's worked wonders) first, to help with the listening and processing. Our speech therapist speaks very highly of both programs, but I figured would get more out of the reading program once his listening skills have improved. Has anyone done either or both? What did you think? Thanks, Alaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Improving listening skills is a key area and various interventions for the APD aspects of my son's problems at aged 9 saw significant gains, for example we did Berard AIT (this completely knocked out his hypersensitive hearing which he had suffered with since a baby) Phonomena (quite boring but he began to hear the difference between individual sounds Ba/Da etc which he could not before) Earobics (more user friendly) and Fast ForWord (when he completed this he said he could hear better and sounds were no longer muffled) and when he finally completed the listening interventions he actually started to pick up and read relatively unchallenging material which had heavy visual support like comics Captain Underpants etc but hey he was doing it voluntarily and enjoying the experience for the first time in his life! When we finished all of the listening/attention interventions we worked on improving vocabulary and comprehension and one of the interventions we used was mood Bell (in my opinion this is about the most expensive intervention) and after a honeymoon period we struggled to keep him on course with it and when we got to a position where we were having to set up behaviour/incentive type plans to even get him to turn up we recognised that we were simply wasting our money. Who knows maybe the timing was not right for him because the principles behind the program seem very good but it struck us that even if your child was not complying or continuing to derive benefit (based on their collected data from each session) that the centre just continued to run the programme without intelligent analysis and so ultimately you were paying for a programme that based on their evidence was no longer working! In a message dated 13/01/2010 13:01:32 GMT Standard Time, alaineandpaul@... writes: Happy New Year to everyone! Just a quick update since we're about 10 weeks into Play Attention w/ . Definitely seeing improvements, and he wants to do it, which makes things ALOT easier! Looking forward to filling in other gaps - his reading progress in school is pretty slow, so we were thinking about looking into mood Bell for the summer. But, his focus is also still a huge challenge - part of it is definitely avoidance behavior, and Dr G thinks there could be some auditory processing difficulty. So then I started to think about the Dynamic Listening System (a colleague just finished up that program for her son and it's worked wonders) first, to help with the listening and processing. Our speech therapist speaks very highly of both programs, but I figured would get more out of the reading program once his listening skills have improved. Has anyone done either or both? What did you think? Thanks, Alaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2010 Report Share Posted January 14, 2010 Thanks, ladies! I'll look into both! Alaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Hi..there is AUDITORY INTEGRATION TRAININGÂ , administered by many therapists in California. I know Sharda Ramlackhan from Lowell, massachussettes..My son has really shown integrated and a kind of coming - together behaviour..do check..and best of luck! Love, Gargi From: alaine <alaineandpaul@...> Subject: Reading and Listening program question Date: Wednesday, 13 January, 2010, 6:30 PM Â Happy New Year to everyone! Just a quick update since we're about 10 weeks into Play Attention w/ . Definitely seeing improvements, and he wants to do it, which makes things ALOT easier! Looking forward to filling in other gaps - his reading progress in school is pretty slow, so we were thinking about looking into mood Bell for the summer. But, his focus is also still a huge challenge - part of it is definitely avoidance behavior, and Dr G thinks there could be some auditory processing difficulty. So then I started to think about the Dynamic Listening System (a colleague just finished up that program for her son and it's worked wonders) first, to help with the listening and processing. Our speech therapist speaks very highly of both programs, but I figured would get more out of the reading program once his listening skills have improved. Has anyone done either or both? What did you think? Thanks, Alaine The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 > > > thanks for that, would you say that lindamood bell program gave any benefits > at all during that first initial period that your son was compliant would > you say that you saw gains and were they permanent? > > Natasa > > > > > > Improving listening skills is a key area and various interventions for the > APD aspects of my son's problems at aged 9 saw significant gains, for > example we did Berard AIT (this completely knocked out his hypersensitive > hearing which he had suffered with since a baby) Phonomena (quite boring but > he > began to hear the difference between individual sounds Ba/Da etc which he > could not before) Earobics (more user friendly) and Fast ForWord (when he > completed this he said he could hear better and sounds were no longer > muffled) and when he finally completed the listening interventions he > actually > started to pick up and read relatively unchallenging material which had heavy > visual support like comics Captain Underpants etc but hey he was doing it > voluntarily and enjoying the experience for the first time in his life! > > When we finished all of the listening/attention interventions we worked on > improving vocabulary and comprehension and one of the interventions we used > was mood Bell (in my opinion this is about the most expensive > intervention) and after a honeymoon period we struggled to keep him on course > with > it and when we got to a position where we were having to set up > behaviour/incentive type plans to even get him to turn up we recognised that > we were > simply wasting our money. Who knows maybe the timing was not right for him > because the principles behind the program seem very good but it struck us > that even if your child was not complying or continuing to derive benefit > (based on their collected data from each session) that the centre just > continued to run the programme without intelligent analysis and so ultimately > you > were paying for a programme that based on their evidence was no longer > working! > > In a message dated 13/01/2010 13:01:32 GMT Standard Time, > alaineandpaul@... <mailto:alaineandpaul%40verizon.net> writes: > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Just a quick update since we're about 10 weeks into Play Attention w/ > . Definitely seeing improvements, and he wants to do it, which makes > things > ALOT easier! > > Looking forward to filling in other gaps - his reading progress in school > is pretty slow, so we were thinking about looking into mood Bell for > the summer. But, his focus is also still a huge challenge - part of it is > definitely avoidance behavior, and Dr G thinks there could be some auditory > processing difficulty. So then I started to think about the Dynamic > Listening System (a colleague just finished up that program for her son and > it's > worked wonders) first, to help with the listening and processing. Our speech > therapist speaks very highly of both programs, but I figured would get > more out of the reading program once his listening skills have improved. > > Has anyone done either or both? What did you think? > > Thanks, > > Alaine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Hello, I take my son to an Orton Gillingham tutor because he shows all the signs of dyslexia. They teach sounding out words by various multiseneory methods. They start with the high frequency sounds, first because children with auditory processing issues usually have the most difficulty processing low frequency sounds. I also got trained in The Therapeutic Listening Program which helped him a lot. He no longer puts his shoes on the wrong feet (a common sign of dyslexia.) His spacial awareness has improved as well. Modified high and low frequency sounds loosens up stiff ear muscles - which were made stiff by ear infections and/or long term allergies. From: Neno/Natasa <neno@...> Subject: Re: Reading and Listening program question Cc: goldsmull@... Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 3:19 AM  > > > thanks for that, would you say that lindamood bell program gave any benefits > at all  during that first initial period that your son was compliant would > you say that you saw gains and were they permanent? > > Natasa > > > > > > Improving listening skills is a key area and various interventions for the > APD aspects of my son's problems at aged 9 saw significant gains, for > example we did Berard AIT (this completely knocked out his hypersensitive > hearing which he had suffered with since a baby) Phonomena (quite boring but > he > began to hear the difference between individual sounds Ba/Da etc which he > could not before) Earobics (more user friendly) and Fast ForWord (when he > completed this he said he could hear better and sounds were no longer > muffled) and when he finally completed the listening interventions he > actually > started to pick up and read relatively unchallenging material which had heavy > visual support like comics Captain Underpants etc but hey he was doing it > voluntarily and enjoying the experience for the first time in his life! > > When we finished all of the listening/attention interventions we worked on > improving vocabulary and comprehension and one of the interventions we used > was mood Bell (in my opinion this is about the most expensive > intervention) and after a honeymoon period we struggled to keep him on course > with > it and when we got to a position where we were having to set up > behaviour/incentive type plans to even get him to turn up we recognised that > we were > simply wasting our money. Who knows maybe the timing was not right for him > because the principles behind the program seem very good but it struck us > that even if your child was not complying or continuing to derive benefit > (based on their collected data from each session) that the centre just > continued to run the programme without intelligent analysis and so ultimately > you > were paying for a programme that based on their evidence was no longer > working! > > In a message dated 13/01/2010 13:01:32 GMT Standard Time, > alaineandpaul@ verizon.net <mailto:alaineandpa ul%40verizon. net> writes: > > Happy New Year to everyone! > > Just a quick update since we're about 10 weeks into Play Attention w/ > . Definitely seeing improvements, and he wants to do it, which makes > things > ALOT easier! > > Looking forward to filling in other gaps - his reading progress in school > is pretty slow, so we were thinking about looking into mood Bell for > the summer. But, his focus is also still a huge challenge - part of it is > definitely avoidance behavior, and Dr G thinks there could be some auditory > processing difficulty. So then I started to think about the Dynamic > Listening System (a colleague just finished up that program for her son and > it's > worked wonders) first, to help with the listening and processing. Our speech > therapist speaks very highly of both programs, but I figured would get > more out of the reading program once his listening skills have improved. > > Has anyone done either or both? What did you think? > > Thanks, > > Alaine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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