Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Yes, " enriched wheat " is exactly what he's talking about. Just remember that he recommends it primarily as a vehicle to get protein into the kids, not as a food staple. Things like pancakes, waffles, French toast, etc., should be limited to once every two weeks. HTH, Donna > > After meeting with Dr. Golberg, we have switched from a GFCF diet to the one he recommends. I am still confused about starches and snack options. Is enriched wheat flour OK? Even the cheap white bread has this in it and I can't find anything that doesn't. Is pasta and white rice OK? > Thank you- > Colleen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 Colleen, Cheap white bread is generally OK... pasta and white rice are generally OK, too. Here¹s an old link to something Dr. G posted called ³The Do's and Don'ts of the Diet²... http://www.nids.net/diet.htm The link is VERY old... many things have changed, such as his attitude toward nuts (I¹m not sure what he would say regarding almond milk now... for my kids it would be a no-no). He also nixed Cheerios a couple of years ago, and cinnamon, and tapioca a while before that. He may have you send him your child¹s diet for a week (with all of the ingredients). Sometimes that can help him pinpoint something that might be bothersome. That¹s all I can think of for now, Caroline After meeting with Dr. Golberg, we have switched from a GFCF diet to the one he recommends. I am still confused about starches and snack options. Is enriched wheat flour OK? Even the cheap white bread has this in it and I can't find anything that doesn't. Is pasta and white rice OK? Thank you- Colleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Does anyone know if Dr. G still allows processed (Skippy, Jif) peanut butter? I haven't given it to my son in several years because I thought he might be reacting to it, but back then he was eating it about three times a week. I was thinking that if Dr. G allows his patients to have it, and I limited it to once every two weeks, maybe it would be okay. Poor really misses those PB & J's. TIA, Donna > > > > > Colleen, > > Cheap white bread is generally OK... pasta and white rice are generally OK, > too. > > Here¹s an old link to something Dr. G posted called ³The Do's and Don'ts of > the Diet²... > > http://www.nids.net/diet.htm > > The link is VERY old... many things have changed, such as his attitude > toward nuts (I¹m not sure what he would say regarding almond milk now... for > my kids it would be a no-no). He also nixed Cheerios a couple of years ago, > and cinnamon, and tapioca a while before that. > > He may have you send him your child¹s diet for a week (with all of the > ingredients). Sometimes that can help him pinpoint something that might be > bothersome. > > That¹s all I can think of for now, > Caroline > > > > > After meeting with Dr. Golberg, we have switched from a GFCF diet to the one > he recommends. I am still confused about starches and snack options. Is > enriched wheat flour OK? Even the cheap white bread has this in it and I > can't find anything that doesn't. Is pasta and white rice OK? > Thank you- > Colleen > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Yes, he does. Elijah is reactive only if he has too much, so I limit it to 2 to 3 times per week. can't have it at all due to eczema. Noah has it a couple of time a week as well. Just stay away from the natural, unprocessed peanut butter, and hopefully that will work for . Robyn ________________________________ From: DonnaB <donnaaron@...> Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 9:45:22 AM Subject: Re: Dr. Goldberg's diet Does anyone know if Dr. G still allows processed (Skippy, Jif) peanut butter? I haven't given it to my son in several years because I thought he might be reacting to it, but back then he was eating it about three times a week. I was thinking that if Dr. G allows his patients to have it, and I limited it to once every two weeks, maybe it would be okay. Poor really misses those PB & J's. TIA, Donna > > > > > Colleen, > > Cheap white bread is generally OK... pasta and white rice are generally OK, > too. > > Here¹s an old link to something Dr. G posted called ³The Do's and Don'ts of > the Diet²... > > http://www.nids. net/diet. htm > > The link is VERY old... many things have changed, such as his attitude > toward nuts (I¹m not sure what he would say regarding almond milk now... for > my kids it would be a no-no). He also nixed Cheerios a couple of years ago, > and cinnamon, and tapioca a while before that. > > He may have you send him your child¹s diet for a week (with all of the > ingredients) . Sometimes that can help him pinpoint something that might be > bothersome. > > That¹s all I can think of for now, > Caroline > > > > > After meeting with Dr. Golberg, we have switched from a GFCF diet to the one > he recommends. I am still confused about starches and snack options. Is > enriched wheat flour OK? Even the cheap white bread has this in it and I > can't find anything that doesn't. Is pasta and white rice OK? > Thank you- > Colleen > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 He doesn¹t allow my two boys to have it anymore. He cut it from their diet a couple of years ago. Your best bet is to ask him directly, as the PB rule doesn¹t seem to be the same for all the kids. Caroline Does anyone know if Dr. G still allows processed (Skippy, Jif) peanut butter? I haven't given it to my son in several years because I thought he might be reacting to it, but back then he was eating it about three times a week. I was thinking that if Dr. G allows his patients to have it, and I limited it to once every two weeks, maybe it would be okay. Poor really misses those PB & J's. TIA, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 PB wasn't ruled out for my boys ... their eosiniphils didn't run high, and food intolerances didn't seem too bad, but PB was one of the definite things that would set my son off. I'm like you in believing if we could just 'limit' it, it would be fine. The problem in my household is that if you allow it one day, they want to eat it EVERY day, and it almost always becomes a problem. My son refuses to vary his diet. What he eats one morning for breakfast will be every morning for many months to a year or two, until one day he switches to the next thing, and it will be a year or so before he will change again. Much the same for what he'll eat at school for lunch. It's so stressfull. He's 10, and he's very angry about my restricting his diet (nevermind that he is technically the one who has actually restricted it down to what it is - I just restrict the absolute bad things). He decided to " not believe " in his 'allergies', and I busted him for eating things at school like candies w/the bad food colorings, and trading for chocolate milk. I can still tell after a couple of days that he's drinking milk - he gets soooo mean and oppositional, and usually toward the end of a bad night, while I'm bashing my head on the wall wondering what in the world caused this miserable evening, I'll suddenly gasp, look at him, and say " YOU! You had chocolate milk!!!!! " . It's almost funny (if I weren't already livid by that time) the guilt, and at least for a while he will believe me regarding diet infractions again. I should really fight this limited diet a lot harder than I do, and continuously expose him to new meats. He actually may like more meats than he knows. He begged for shrimp a few times and did love it - that was wierd and I was happy about it.  But I have the similar issue about eating the same foods all the time myself so it's like the blind leading the blind. Sometimes I think I should have a chart of many food choices just to remind him how much food there is out there that he never thinks of and how very little of them he chooses to eat. Then I think it'll just stress him out and risk adding guilt - I feel a lot of guilt about food myself. Coulda shoulda woulda. And just think ... the diet tends to be easier than most, until you have a super reactive kid who can't eat anything. ________________________________ From: Caroline Glover <sfglover@...> Sent: Mon, February 1, 2010 12:00:34 PM Subject: Re: Re: Dr. Goldberg's diet  He doesn¹t allow my two boys to have it anymore. He cut it from their diet a couple of years ago. Your best bet is to ask him directly, as the PB rule doesn¹t seem to be the same for all the kids. Caroline Does anyone know if Dr. G still allows processed (Skippy, Jif) peanut butter? I haven't given it to my son in several years because I thought he might be reacting to it, but back then he was eating it about three times a week. I was thinking that if Dr. G allows his patients to have it, and I limited it to once every two weeks, maybe it would be okay. Poor really misses those PB & J's. TIA, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 Donna, Dr G allowed creamy peanut butter for the last several months for my son Connor, but very infrequently. many of the allergists say peanut butter is not as bad as peanuts (Whole) , when I researched it the only difference is in the processing they remove the kernel that is the seed. I tried it for a month or so, once or twice a week and I think we had a mild reaction but it was hard to tell. After the next blood work (if his reaction level is down) I am going to try again. Bill From: DonnaB <donnaaron@...> Subject: Re: Dr. Goldberg's diet Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 12:45 PM  Does anyone know if Dr. G still allows processed (Skippy, Jif) peanut butter? I haven't given it to my son in several years because I thought he might be reacting to it, but back then he was eating it about three times a week. I was thinking that if Dr. G allows his patients to have it, and I limited it to once every two weeks, maybe it would be okay. Poor really misses those PB & J's. TIA, Donna > > > > > Colleen, > > Cheap white bread is generally OK... pasta and white rice are generally OK, > too. > > Here¹s an old link to something Dr. G posted called ³The Do's and Don'ts of > the Diet²... > > http://www.nids. net/diet. htm > > The link is VERY old... many things have changed, such as his attitude > toward nuts (I¹m not sure what he would say regarding almond milk now... for > my kids it would be a no-no). He also nixed Cheerios a couple of years ago, > and cinnamon, and tapioca a while before that. > > He may have you send him your child¹s diet for a week (with all of the > ingredients) . Sometimes that can help him pinpoint something that might be > bothersome. > > That¹s all I can think of for now, > Caroline > > > > > After meeting with Dr. Golberg, we have switched from a GFCF diet to the one > he recommends. I am still confused about starches and snack options. Is > enriched wheat flour OK? Even the cheap white bread has this in it and I > can't find anything that doesn't. Is pasta and white rice OK? > Thank you- > Colleen > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 The great thing about Dr. G's diet is that it's pretty simple. Shop at your run of the mill grocery store - buy what your son likes that does not have whole grains, oats, berries, red dye, blue dye, or of course dairy. These days, its getting the dairy out that's hard, it's in so many things. However, my son can eat and does like a Franz brand hot dog bun with all beef hotdogs and sugar free ketchup. He can also eat a few low sodium lays potato chips and applesauce. He also does well with chocolate soy milk, yes there is no dairy in it. He can have this for a treat about once a week. He also likes eggs, bacon, bannanas, orange juice, popcorn, home made chicken nuggets (make sure the breading is refined wheat and no dairy!) Even french toast on Saturday mornings if he's had a good week with a serving of protein and fruit. Some kids can eat peanut butter, but my kiddo isn't one, that's all he wants to eat so we can't have it in the house. But he could from a health perspective eat a peanut butter and grape jelly sandwich on french bread. Make sure that he is getting another protein with that meal - that's the challenge for us - he just wants carbs - he's a dedicated carb addict. Good Luck - we try to limit the rice too - it just turn to sugar in the body too quickly. ________________________________ From: lornajese77 <lorna_77@...> Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 7:58:41 AM Subject: Dr. Goldberg's Diet  Hi! I have been doing the GFCFSGYF diet for 3 years. However my sons IGe is sky high! Goldberg says I need to change the diet, no rice!!!!!!! Everything is rice at home. NO GFCF stuff. I need help. does anyone has a document or receipts? ANy help will be appreciated. his nurse will not be in until tomorrow and I am kind of desperate! Lorna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hi Lorna, We were in this same boat. We were GFCFSF and our daughter's numbers were not great. It was a leap of faith (just like everything seems to be) but we are not seeing any negatives from the diet change. He told us to limit rice, not cut it out completely. We eat it one time a week and the biggest starch she now eats are potatoes. I also had to cut out my baking since it was heavy on rice flour. We have cut carbs out from some of our meals and no one seems to mind. The best news for us and that, finally, her numbers are looking better. I'm not sure what document or receipt you are looking for but I always knew I could go back to our old diet if we needed to. Nothing is permanent and if his numbers look good, it will be such a relief to you. Good luck, On 1/19/11 10:58 AM, lornajese77 wrote: > > Hi! > > I have been doing the GFCFSGYF diet for 3 years. However my sons IGe > is sky high! Goldberg says I need to change the diet, no rice!!!!!!! > Everything is rice at home. NO GFCF stuff. I need help. does anyone > has a document or receipts? ANy help will be appreciated. > > his nurse will not be in until tomorrow and I am kind of desperate! > > Lorna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 What numbers (titers/levels, etc.) is he looking for? From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of and Daron Freedberg Sent: January-21-11 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Dr. Goldberg's Diet Hi Lorna, We were in this same boat. We were GFCFSF and our daughter's numbers were not great. It was a leap of faith (just like everything seems to be) but we are not seeing any negatives from the diet change. He told us to limit rice, not cut it out completely. We eat it one time a week and the biggest starch she now eats are potatoes. I also had to cut out my baking since it was heavy on rice flour. We have cut carbs out from some of our meals and no one seems to mind. The best news for us and that, finally, her numbers are looking better. I'm not sure what document or receipt you are looking for but I always knew I could go back to our old diet if we needed to. Nothing is permanent and if his numbers look good, it will be such a relief to you. Good luck, On 1/19/11 10:58 AM, lornajese77 wrote: > > Hi! > > I have been doing the GFCFSGYF diet for 3 years. However my sons IGe > is sky high! Goldberg says I need to change the diet, no rice!!!!!!! > Everything is rice at home. NO GFCF stuff. I need help. does anyone > has a document or receipts? ANy help will be appreciated. > > his nurse will not be in until tomorrow and I am kind of desperate! > > Lorna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 WOW! thanks for your note. It is good to know that someone has seen it work! We just bought the goats milk and will do more protein adn vegetable. Same here, I use to bake a lot! especially things containing rice. I am glad you wrote this. I will jump right in and hope his numbers finally can come down. WHat kind of milk substitute do you use? thanks Lorna Lorna Ortiz, PhD. President and Cofounder Curando el Autismo (CEA) lorna.ortiz@... www.curandoelautismo.org From: mdfreedberg@... Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:08:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Dr. Goldberg's Diet Hi Lorna, We were in this same boat. We were GFCFSF and our daughter's numbers were not great. It was a leap of faith (just like everything seems to be) but we are not seeing any negatives from the diet change. He told us to limit rice, not cut it out completely. We eat it one time a week and the biggest starch she now eats are potatoes. I also had to cut out my baking since it was heavy on rice flour. We have cut carbs out from some of our meals and no one seems to mind. The best news for us and that, finally, her numbers are looking better. I'm not sure what document or receipt you are looking for but I always knew I could go back to our old diet if we needed to. Nothing is permanent and if his numbers look good, it will be such a relief to you. Good luck, On 1/19/11 10:58 AM, lornajese77 wrote: > > Hi! > > I have been doing the GFCFSGYF diet for 3 years. However my sons IGe > is sky high! Goldberg says I need to change the diet, no rice!!!!!!! > Everything is rice at home. NO GFCF stuff. I need help. does anyone > has a document or receipts? ANy help will be appreciated. > > his nurse will not be in until tomorrow and I am kind of desperate! > > Lorna > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 We used to use rice milk but Dr. G vetoed that. We tried soy, every brand available, but she hates them all. She eats her cereal dry but she doesn't seem to mind it. What she really misses is her hot chocolate but she really dislikes the taste of soy milk, even masked with chocolate! We also tried goat milk but she wasn't a fan. She loves goat cheese though. Once you get past the psychological block of eating gluten and soy, it is really much easier. Good luck! On 1/21/11 4:52 PM, Lorna Ortiz wrote: > > > WOW! thanks for your note. It is good to know that someone has seen it > work! We just bought the goats milk and will do more protein adn > vegetable. Same here, I use to bake a lot! especially things > containing rice. I am glad you wrote this. I will jump right in and > hope his numbers finally can come down. WHat kind of milk substitute > do you use? > > thanks > > Lorna > > Lorna Ortiz, PhD. > President and Cofounder > Curando el Autismo (CEA) > lorna.ortiz@... > <mailto:lorna.ortiz%40curandoelautismo.org> > www.curandoelautismo.org > > > > <mailto:%40> > From: mdfreedberg@... <mailto:mdfreedberg%40verizon.net> > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:08:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: Dr. Goldberg's Diet > > Hi Lorna, > > We were in this same boat. We were GFCFSF and our daughter's numbers > were not great. It was a leap of faith (just like everything seems to > be) but we are not seeing any negatives from the diet change. He told > us to limit rice, not cut it out completely. We eat it one time a week > and the biggest starch she now eats are potatoes. I also had to cut out > my baking since it was heavy on rice flour. We have cut carbs out from > some of our meals and no one seems to mind. The best news for us and > that, finally, her numbers are looking better. > > I'm not sure what document or receipt you are looking for but I always > knew I could go back to our old diet if we needed to. Nothing is > permanent and if his numbers look good, it will be such a relief to you. > > Good luck, > > > On 1/19/11 10:58 AM, lornajese77 wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I have been doing the GFCFSGYF diet for 3 years. However my sons IGe > > is sky high! Goldberg says I need to change the diet, no rice!!!!!!! > > Everything is rice at home. NO GFCF stuff. I need help. does anyone > > has a document or receipts? ANy help will be appreciated. > > > > his nurse will not be in until tomorrow and I am kind of desperate! > > > > Lorna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 thanks! I guess there are people out there that had the same dilema. I already got so use to the diet we were following that giving my son goats milk sounded crazy! Anyways, we are two days now with only protein, fruit and vegetable and his white rice bread only once a day and goats milk for his cereal. We will see how this goes. I really appreciate your comments. I feel I am not alone doing this. thanks Lorna Ortiz, PhD. President and Cofounder Curando el Autismo (CEA) lorna.ortiz@... www.curandoelautismo.org From: mdfreedberg@... Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:17:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Dr. Goldberg's Diet We used to use rice milk but Dr. G vetoed that. We tried soy, every brand available, but she hates them all. She eats her cereal dry but she doesn't seem to mind it. What she really misses is her hot chocolate but she really dislikes the taste of soy milk, even masked with chocolate! We also tried goat milk but she wasn't a fan. She loves goat cheese though. Once you get past the psychological block of eating gluten and soy, it is really much easier. Good luck! On 1/21/11 4:52 PM, Lorna Ortiz wrote: > > > WOW! thanks for your note. It is good to know that someone has seen it > work! We just bought the goats milk and will do more protein adn > vegetable. Same here, I use to bake a lot! especially things > containing rice. I am glad you wrote this. I will jump right in and > hope his numbers finally can come down. WHat kind of milk substitute > do you use? > > thanks > > Lorna > > Lorna Ortiz, PhD. > President and Cofounder > Curando el Autismo (CEA) > lorna.ortiz@... > <mailto:lorna.ortiz%40curandoelautismo.org> > www.curandoelautismo.org > > > > <mailto:%40> > From: mdfreedberg@... <mailto:mdfreedberg%40verizon.net> > Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:08:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: Dr. Goldberg's Diet > > Hi Lorna, > > We were in this same boat. We were GFCFSF and our daughter's numbers > were not great. It was a leap of faith (just like everything seems to > be) but we are not seeing any negatives from the diet change. He told > us to limit rice, not cut it out completely. We eat it one time a week > and the biggest starch she now eats are potatoes. I also had to cut out > my baking since it was heavy on rice flour. We have cut carbs out from > some of our meals and no one seems to mind. The best news for us and > that, finally, her numbers are looking better. > > I'm not sure what document or receipt you are looking for but I always > knew I could go back to our old diet if we needed to. Nothing is > permanent and if his numbers look good, it will be such a relief to you. > > Good luck, > > > On 1/19/11 10:58 AM, lornajese77 wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I have been doing the GFCFSGYF diet for 3 years. However my sons IGe > > is sky high! Goldberg says I need to change the diet, no rice!!!!!!! > > Everything is rice at home. NO GFCF stuff. I need help. does anyone > > has a document or receipts? ANy help will be appreciated. > > > > his nurse will not be in until tomorrow and I am kind of desperate! > > > > Lorna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 I make pancakes with Potato flour, potato starch, garbanzo/fava bean flour, banana's, eggs and water... mostly egg a little flour, maybe a little sugar or ripe banana... and then I add water until it looks the right consistency (they turn out like crepes.... my son loves them) I use sugar free syrup if you are concerned about putting the gluten back in... there are still things you can make with out wheat that don't use whole grains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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