Re: Need help with overwhelming urge to urinate

[Guest guest]

The EXACT SAME THING happens to me if I forget to apply my estrodiol gel.

It's a low estrogen thing for 'me'. Perhaps it's likewise with you.

I am without my uterus/ovaries and do take topical estradiol,

progesterone, and testosterone in low amounts to alleviate symptoms, and

I'm 59.

Sam

=====

> Hi all,

>

> I don't post much, but occasionally do still read. I am finally 14 months

> without a period, which means I do not still suffer from all the maladies

> that frequently caused me to frantically post looking for answers.

>

> But one thing that is still plaguing me and not getting better is this

> powerful, sudden urge to urinate. I will be in home (or in a store,

> which is worse, you will see why) doing fine, when suddenly this powerful

> urge comes upon me to urinate, and if I do not get to a toilet RIGHT THEN

> I will wet myself. Usually if I stop and get in a certain position and

> concentrate for almost 5 minutes, the urge subsides enough to make it to a

> bathroom, but often I can barely get my pants unzipped before I start

> urinating and sometimes the seat gets wet.

>

> One time I was in a store and the urge hit, and it was bad. My usual

> stance and not moving did not work, and I was forced to crouch down and

> sit on the heel of my foot in a vain attempt to stop it, but this time it

> did not work and really peed quite a bit before I was able to stop it and

> get to the restroom and finish. I was soaked, luckily it was winter and I

> had a long coat on to cover, but oh, how cold and uncomfortable I was.

> Worse, I was with my husband and I was so embarrassed. It was awful.

>

> Two days ago I was in another store and the powerful urge hit again and

> again I had to crouch down and sit on my heel, pretending to be examining

> the products on the bottom shelf. How humiliating is that? I was praying

> all the time I could get control enough to get to the restroom. It took 5

> minutes, but finally I was able to stand and go to the restroom.

>

> I do not leak urine, so I am not incontinent. I've tried Kegel's forever

> without success, since those only help when that muscle is weak allows

> urine to dribble out. I'm guessing what I have is urge incontinence--only

> incontinent when I experience that awful urge.

>

> I've had this before and it went away, now it's been back for several

> months with no signs of abating. I'm getting afraid to go anywhere.

>

> I use a small amount of Estrogel at night to help me sleep, but other than

> that, no other hormones, nor do I use it during the day.

>

> Anyone here ever experience this? Is there anything I can do for this?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sam,

It's good to hear someone else is dealing with this.

I wondered if maybe my residual E levels dropped more as I got many more months

past my last period, and I also lost 10 pounds in about 9 months, so less body

fat to hold the E.

I've been afraid to use more E because I detest and loathe P and will not use it

anymore. I only use a bit of E at night but I may try increasing that since I

know my own endogenous E must be rock bottom.

Someone on another group said hers was caused my a tipped urethra and weak

bladder. Once she had sling (?) surgery she was fine and is still fine 3 years

later. I really, really want to avoid surgery if possible.

>

> The EXACT SAME THING happens to me if I forget to apply my estrodiol gel.

> It's a low estrogen thing for 'me'. Perhaps it's likewise with you.

> I am without my uterus/ovaries and do take topical estradiol,

> progesterone, and testosterone in low amounts to alleviate symptoms, and

> I'm 59.

>

> Sam

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you still have ovaries, they might still be producing some

progesterone. They don't completely die off after meno. Plus adrenals also

produce 'some' sex hormones and work 'with' ovaries - sex hormones are

used in the body in other things than just reproduction. For example, when

I forget to take progesterone my aldosterone drops...ick. Oh, uh, I'm also

hypopituitary so no real help from 'my' adrenals as far as making any sex

hormones is concerned...

But I think, really, a tipped urethra being the cause is probably quite a

stretch.

Sam

=====

> Hi Sam,

> It's good to hear someone else is dealing with this.

>

> I wondered if maybe my residual E levels dropped more as I got many more

> months past my last period, and I also lost 10 pounds in about 9 months,

> so less body fat to hold the E.

>

> I've been afraid to use more E because I detest and loathe P and will not

> use it anymore. I only use a bit of E at night but I may try increasing

> that since I know my own endogenous E must be rock bottom.

>

> Someone on another group said hers was caused my a tipped urethra and weak

> bladder. Once she had sling (?) surgery she was fine and is still fine 3

> years later. I really, really want to avoid surgery if possible.

>

>

>

>

>>

>> The EXACT SAME THING happens to me if I forget to apply my estrodiol

>> gel.

>> It's a low estrogen thing for 'me'. Perhaps it's likewise with you.

>> I am without my uterus/ovaries and do take topical estradiol,

>> progesterone, and testosterone in low amounts to alleviate symptoms, and

>> I'm 59.

>>

>> Sam

>>

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sam,

I still do have ovaries.

So what symptoms do you get when your aldosterone drops?

>

> If you still have ovaries, they might still be producing some

> progesterone. They don't completely die off after meno. Plus adrenals also

> produce 'some' sex hormones and work 'with' ovaries - sex hormones are

> used in the body in other things than just reproduction. For example, when

> I forget to take progesterone my aldosterone drops...ick. Oh, uh, I'm also

> hypopituitary so no real help from 'my' adrenals as far as making any sex

> hormones is concerned...

>

> But I think, really, a tipped urethra being the cause is probably quite a

> stretch.

>

> Sam

>

[Guest guest]

Irregular heart beat and " salt wasting " - peeing a river every few minutes.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone

Sam

=====

> Sam,

> I still do have ovaries.

>

> So what symptoms do you get when your aldosterone drops?

>

>

>

>

>>

>> If you still have ovaries, they might still be producing some

>> progesterone. They don't completely die off after meno. Plus adrenals

>> also

>> produce 'some' sex hormones and work 'with' ovaries - sex hormones are

>> used in the body in other things than just reproduction. For example,

>> when

>> I forget to take progesterone my aldosterone drops...ick. Oh, uh, I'm

>> also

>> hypopituitary so no real help from 'my' adrenals as far as making any

>> sex

>> hormones is concerned...

>>

>> But I think, really, a tipped urethra being the cause is probably quite

>> a

>> stretch.

>>

>> Sam

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Even though I do pee a lot, I do not have those other symptoms. Also had doc

check my HbgA1C for possible diabetes and he said it looked great. I don't

really feel thirsty.

Maybe too much caffeine?

>

> Irregular heart beat and " salt wasting " - peeing a river every few minutes.

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone

>

> Sam

>

[Guest guest]

Um, low progesterone causes " my " aldosterone to lower, probably due to

" me " being hypO-pituitary and having adrenals that are unable to function

well.

Not saying " you " would have that problem. " You " might just be having the

pee problem just because estrogen is lower.

Sam

=====

> Even though I do pee a lot, I do not have those other symptoms. Also had

> doc check my HbgA1C for possible diabetes and he said it looked great. I

> don't really feel thirsty.

>

> Maybe too much caffeine?

>

>

>

>>

>> Irregular heart beat and " salt wasting " - peeing a river every few

>> minutes.

>> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone

>>

>> Sam

>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, -

There are prescription drugs for this condition (although I personally do not

know how well they work)...see for instance from

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001270.htm (excerpted below).

~ r ~

MEDICATION

Medications used to treat urge incontinence relax the involuntary bladder

contractions and help improve bladder function. There are several types of

medications that may be used alone or in combination:

Anticholinergic medicines help relax the muscles of the bladder. They include

oxybutynin (Oxytrol, Ditropan), tolterodine (Detrol), darifenacin (Enablex),

trospium (Sanctura), solifenacin (Vesicare)

These are the most commonly used medications for urge incontinence and are

available in a once-a-day formula that makes dosing easy and effective.

The most common side effects of these medicines are dry mouth and constipation.

The medications cannot be used by patients with narrow angle glaucoma.

>

> Hi all,

>

> I don't post much, but occasionally do still read. I am finally 14 months

without a period, which means I do not still suffer from all the maladies that

frequently caused me to frantically post looking for answers.

>

> But one thing that is still plaguing me and not getting better is this

powerful, sudden urge to urinate. I will be in home (or in a store, which is

worse, you will see why) doing fine, when suddenly this powerful urge comes upon

me to urinate, and if I do not get to a toilet RIGHT THEN I will wet myself.

Usually if I stop and get in a certain position and concentrate for almost 5

minutes, the urge subsides enough to make it to a bathroom, but often I can

barely get my pants unzipped before I start urinating and sometimes the seat

gets wet.

>

> One time I was in a store and the urge hit, and it was bad. My usual stance

and not moving did not work, and I was forced to crouch down and sit on the heel

of my foot in a vain attempt to stop it, but this time it did not work and

really peed quite a bit before I was able to stop it and get to the restroom and

finish. I was soaked, luckily it was winter and I had a long coat on to cover,

but oh, how cold and uncomfortable I was. Worse, I was with my husband and I

was so embarrassed. It was awful.

>

> Two days ago I was in another store and the powerful urge hit again and again

I had to crouch down and sit on my heel, pretending to be examining the products

on the bottom shelf. How humiliating is that? I was praying all the time I

could get control enough to get to the restroom. It took 5 minutes, but finally

I was able to stand and go to the restroom.

>

> I do not leak urine, so I am not incontinent. I've tried Kegel's forever

without success, since those only help when that muscle is weak allows urine to

dribble out. I'm guessing what I have is urge incontinence--only incontinent

when I experience that awful urge.

>

> I've had this before and it went away, now it's been back for several months

with no signs of abating. I'm getting afraid to go anywhere.

>

> I use a small amount of Estrogel at night to help me sleep, but other than

that, no other hormones, nor do I use it during the day.

>

> Anyone here ever experience this? Is there anything I can do for this?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>