switching from coke to water

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Hi Don,

I mean the cocaine leaves they use as 'flavoring' in Coca-Cola. I read this not long ago but we are assured the addictive part in cocaine is now removed.

Baugh

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I really think the coke the company uses for 'flavor', has some addictive

qualities in it for if you believe in homeopathic medicine, it has to be

true the addictive part is still in there, even in the form of molecules.

Baugh

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Hi

Which kind of " coke " are you referring to here? Coca-cola stopped putting 'coke' in their soft drink somewhere just before or after the turn of the last century (supposedly anyway). I suppose they could be using a homeopathic preparation of 'coke' in their recipe. It may be a long time before we ever find out though as these recipes are guarded more closely than the gold in Fort Knox ever was. My guess, that they are using corn syrup as the sweetener instead of sugar, which will make it very addictive as your body attempts to utilize the glucose it cannot get from corn syrup. So your body keeps craving more and more to satisfy the need for the glucose that it can normally get from regular sugar. This is one of the reasons why so many people become obese. From intaking all this corn syrup that their bodies cannot utilize for energy. It makes you crave sugar in order to satisfy this. The human body cannot break down the sugars in corn syrup so you derive no benefit from it. Here is an interesting article on coca-cola. Not sure how true it is but interesting all the same.

The Coca-Cola Recipe

Where The Coca-Cola Formula Came From

This Coca-Cola formula appears to be the original formula to Coca-Cola. An author named Mark Pendergrast wrote a book about Coca-Cola entitled For God, Country and Coca-Cola (you can click here to order the book). In writing this book he was able to interview just about anybody he wanted within Coca-Cola, and was also granted access to the vast archives of Coca-Cola. In reviewing archive material, he was presented with a book labeled:

Account and formula book

belonging to Dr. J.S. Pemberton

while a druggist in Columbus

He was told this was an early formula book (which would jive with the Columbus GA label). However, while reviewing the book Pendergrast came upon a recipe for " Celery Cola " and quickly realized that this was not an early formulary guide of Pemberton's. This was in fact a formulary book produced shortly before Pemberton's death, and there was a good chance that it contained the original Coca-Cola formula.

Pendergrast knew that " Celery Cola " was the recipe Pemberton was working on at the time of his death, and he was also aware of the story of Pemberton's apprentice and an old formulary book. The story went that a young man named P. went to apprentice with the elderly Pemberton, and not long after starting his apprenticeship Mr. Pemberton died. Young Mr. went back to his home of Columbus, GA., and took one of Pemberton's formulary books with him. In 1943, a son of Mr. 's happened to show the formulary book, which did contain a recipe for Coca-Cola, to a member of Coca-Cola's board. The board member managed to acquire the book from 's son, and no one had seen the book since (or at least until Pendergrast found it in their archives).

As Pendergrast looked through the old pages of what remained of Pemberton's formulary guide he came upon a page that was unlabeled except for an 'X' at the top of the page. Sure enough, he had found an original Coca-Cola formula. This is the formula that is shown above.

Pendergrast was also able to get confirmation that the above recipe was the original. At one time Coca-Cola was looking at selling a version of Coca-Cola in the Soviet Union. The company sent one of their people, Mladin Zarubica, to the U.S.S.R. and provided him with a slightly modified Coca-Cola formula. Zarubica was instructed to again modify the recipe to produce a clear Coca-Cola, however Coca-Cola later changed their mind and decided to wait awhile before selling Coke in the Soviet Union. In any event, Pendergrast interviewed Zarubica, and he showed Pendergrast the formula that Coca-Cola provided him. It was the same as the formula Pendergrast found in the Coca-Cola archives, except that the last two items (coriander & neroli oil) were missing. It even had the same misspelling of " F.E. Coco. "

Over the years the Coca-Cola formula has been changed.

Asa Candler changed the formula, shortly after he acquired it, to stop imitators (at least 10 people knew the original formula when Candler bought the rights to Coca-Cola). Candler also added glycerin as a preservative, removed the cocaine, reduced the caffeine, and replaced the citric acid with phosphoric acid. In later years there may or may not have been further minor changes, but certainly corn syrup is now used as the sweetener instead of sugar. The flavoring component was also changed by Asa. He referred to it as 7X, yet Pemberton's formula only had 6 ingredients. Most likely, Asa added Lime Oil to the flavoring base and removed much of the lime juice (chemical analysis bears this out).

Asa wanted to keep his version of Coca-Cola completely secret, and he created a system whereby the ingredients were stripped of all labeling, and were referred to by numbers 1 through 9. Asa Candler and were the only two individuals who knew the Coca-Cola formula or were even permitted into the lab. Lastly, all invoices were intercepted by Asa. When the company grew to the point where he could not handle the invoices himself, he had his suppliers use his numbering system of 1 to 9 on their invoices. This numbering system has since been figured out, and been reported in several books, and breaks down as follows:

Merchandise # 1 is sugar

Merchandise # 2 is caramel

Merchandise # 3 is caffeine

Merchandise # 4 is phosphoric acid

Merchandise # 5 is a coca leaf & cola nut extract

Merchandise # 6 is probably lime juice, but was incorporated into merchandise # 7 as an oil

Merchandise # 7X is the flavoring mixture

Merchandise # 8 is vanilla

Merchandise # 9 is probably glycerin, but is no longer used

1According to an article in the Wall Street Journal on Oct. 4, 1996 , the great-grandson of the co-founder of Coca-Cola, was willing to sell a Coca-Cola formula that was in his grandfathers handwriting. However, Mr. was going through a divorce at the time, and his wife was claiming that the formula was given to her as a pre-marriage gift. A judge has recently decided the formula belongs to Mr. , but I have not heard if Mr. still intends to sell the formula. In any event Coca-Cola claims the formula is a fake. Do to clues released about the ingredients of this formula (if genuine, which is likely) the recipe was produced after Asa revised the Coca-Cola formula, but before the cocaine was removed.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. "

[Guest guest]

oldglory@... wrote:

> Hi Don,

>

> I mean the cocaine leaves they use as 'flavoring' in

> Coca-Cola. I read this not long ago but we are assured the

> addictive part in cocaine is now removed.

>

> Baugh

>

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Interesting, I was unaware that they used cocaine leaves for flavoring.

I just naturally assumed that the leaves were there from the beginning

for the " Pause that refreshes! " . Now I wonder what happens to the

cocaine from the 100 metric tons of Peruvian coca leaves, that the

Stepan Co. in Maywood, NJ buys and processes for the Coca-cola bottling

company? Any guess here? I do believe that you are correct Jean. No

matter how much extraction one does to the leaf there is still going to

be miniscule amounts that will add up over time. I guess it is time for

your to go cold turkey girl. Thanks for pointing me in the right

direction here. Another assumption solidly trounced into the dust of

ignorance. :-)

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Hello All,

Actually, on the Food Network there was a show on the history of Cola

yesterday.

Originally, Coke was manufactured by a man trying to develop

a " healing tonic " at his pharmacy/soda fountain. He used Coca

extract (cocaine) and Kola nut (hence, Coca cola). It mistakenly got

mixed with soda water and that's where they got the carbonated soft

drink.

The FDA (or legislative authority back in the EARLY 1900's (think

before 1910) got concerned at how " addictive " coca cola was and

researched the coca plant. The coca plant extract was removed and

SUGAR replaced it.

Hope this helps (since i've really not been following this thread)

Here's the link, to the TV show I saw.

http://www.foodtv.com/food/show_sf/episode/0,1976,FOOD_17616_32757,00.

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Best,

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