Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Natasa, I think that sounds like a great possiblity, I was disappointed to hear that they only found a 40% occurence in children with autism...Maybe that is an alternate explanation because I think this is THE virus behind immune dysfunction. Or at least I hope this is it... Then again, they tested such a small sample of children with ASD, maybe its not an accurate representation of the population, or some of these children are in remission from XMRV? - > > > From http://www.hhv-6foundation.org/testing.html > > ....PCR DNA tests can detect HHV-6 in the serum during primary roseola > infections and in acute transplant reactivations, but they cannot determine > reliably if a patient has a chronic central nervous system (CNS) infection > that has reactivated , because there is so little virus circulating outside > of the tissues. HHV-6A & B viruses (especially HHV-6A) migrate to the > central nervous system and other organs and away from the bloodstream. > HHV-6A has been found to persist in the spinal fluid long after it has > disappeared from the plasma. 3 > > Researchers at the NINDS have determined from autopsy that bone marrow > transplant patients with active or reactivated infections in the CNS tissue > have very little HHV-6 in the spinal fluid or serum.4This means that if the > HHV-6 is chronically active in the brain tissue, it may be impossible to > find any evidence of it in the peripheral blood or even the spinal fluid > > As is the case with pathogens with low viral copy numbers such as HHV-8 and > West Nile Virus, indirect evidence of the HHV-6 antibodies are easier to > find than the HHV-6 virus itself. Therefore elevated IgG antibody levels > (above a threshold) may be the only indication of a reactivated chronic > HHV-6 CNS infection... > > > > I've posted this type of question to Judy M for the 22nd Q & A session, I do > hope she picks it, but it would help if more people wrote in as this could > be crucial for autism... > > > Natasa > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 > Actually they found close to 60% once they did the other test in addition to > PCR (I believe it was antibodies but not sure) > > > I think even if in remission xmrv would still be there as it could never > completely go away... Unless of course it is so low in blood as to be > hard/impossible to detect... > > > > > > > Natasa, > > I think that sounds like a great possiblity, I was disappointed to hear that > they only found a 40% occurence in children with autism...Maybe that is an > alternate explanation because I think this is THE virus behind immune > dysfunction. Or at least I hope this is it... > > Then again, they tested such a small sample of children with ASD, maybe its > not an accurate representation of the population, or some of these children > are in remission from XMRV? > > - > > >> > >> > >> > From http://www.hhv-6foundation.org/testing.html >> > >> > ....PCR DNA tests can detect HHV-6 in the serum during primary roseola >> > infections and in acute transplant reactivations, but they cannot determine >> > reliably if a patient has a chronic central nervous system (CNS) infection >> > that has reactivated , because there is so little virus circulating outside >> > of the tissues. HHV-6A & B viruses (especially HHV-6A) migrate to the >> > central nervous system and other organs and away from the bloodstream. >> > HHV-6A has been found to persist in the spinal fluid long after it has >> > disappeared from the plasma. 3 >> > >> > Researchers at the NINDS have determined from autopsy that bone marrow >> > transplant patients with active or reactivated infections in the CNS tissue >> > have very little HHV-6 in the spinal fluid or serum.4This means that if the >> > HHV-6 is chronically active in the brain tissue, it may be impossible to >> > find any evidence of it in the peripheral blood or even the spinal fluid >> > >> > As is the case with pathogens with low viral copy numbers such as HHV-8 and >> > West Nile Virus, indirect evidence of the HHV-6 antibodies are easier to >> > find than the HHV-6 virus itself. Therefore elevated IgG antibody levels >> > (above a threshold) may be the only indication of a reactivated chronic >> > HHV-6 CNS infection... >> > >> > >> > >> > I've posted this type of question to Judy M for the 22nd Q & A session, I do >> > hope she picks it, but it would help if more people wrote in as this could >> > be crucial for autism... >> > >> > >> > Natasa >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 , What is interesting is that this or a similar retro virus may be the problem. Getting the dollars to investigate how viruses effect the immune system and what other possible viruses may be the root cause of Autism is the message that needs to get out. It may be XMRV but a more effective and broad range antiviral that addresses how all of the potential neuro immune related retroviruses reproduce or replicate may be developed. Bill From: <jlhank80@...> Subject: Re: What if XMRV behaves in a similar manner? Date: Sunday, January 17, 2010, 5:46 PM  Natasa, I think that sounds like a great possiblity, I was disappointed to hear that they only found a 40% occurence in children with autism...Maybe that is an alternate explanation because I think this is THE virus behind immune dysfunction. Or at least I hope this is it... Then again, they tested such a small sample of children with ASD, maybe its not an accurate representation of the population, or some of these children are in remission from XMRV? - > > > From http://www.hhv- 6foundation. org/testing. html > > ....PCR DNA tests can detect HHV-6 in the serum during primary roseola > infections and in acute transplant reactivations, but they cannot determine > reliably if a patient has a chronic central nervous system (CNS) infection > that has reactivated , because there is so little virus circulating outside > of the tissues. HHV-6A & B viruses (especially HHV-6A) migrate to the > central nervous system and other organs and away from the bloodstream. > HHV-6A has been found to persist in the spinal fluid long after it has > disappeared from the plasma. 3 > > Researchers at the NINDS have determined from autopsy that bone marrow > transplant patients with active or reactivated infections in the CNS tissue > have very little HHV-6 in the spinal fluid or serum.4This means that if the > HHV-6 is chronically active in the brain tissue, it may be impossible to > find any evidence of it in the peripheral blood or even the spinal fluid > > As is the case with pathogens with low viral copy numbers such as HHV-8 and > West Nile Virus, indirect evidence of the HHV-6 antibodies are easier to > find than the HHV-6 virus itself. Therefore elevated IgG antibody levels > (above a threshold) may be the only indication of a reactivated chronic > HHV-6 CNS infection... > > > > I've posted this type of question to Judy M for the 22nd Q & A session, I do > hope she picks it, but it would help if more people wrote in as this could > be crucial for autism... > > > Natasa > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Natasa...where do you post your questions for Dr. Mikovits?? - > > > > > > From http://www.hhv-6foundation.org/testing.html > > > > ....PCR DNA tests can detect HHV-6 in the serum during primary roseola > > infections and in acute transplant reactivations, but they cannot determine > > reliably if a patient has a chronic central nervous system (CNS) infection > > that has reactivated , because there is so little virus circulating outside > > of the tissues. HHV-6A & B viruses (especially HHV-6A) migrate to the > > central nervous system and other organs and away from the bloodstream. > > HHV-6A has been found to persist in the spinal fluid long after it has > > disappeared from the plasma. 3 > > > > Researchers at the NINDS have determined from autopsy that bone marrow > > transplant patients with active or reactivated infections in the CNS tissue > > have very little HHV-6 in the spinal fluid or serum.4This means that if the > > HHV-6 is chronically active in the brain tissue, it may be impossible to > > find any evidence of it in the peripheral blood or even the spinal fluid > > > > As is the case with pathogens with low viral copy numbers such as HHV-8 and > > West Nile Virus, indirect evidence of the HHV-6 antibodies are easier to > > find than the HHV-6 virus itself. Therefore elevated IgG antibody levels > > (above a threshold) may be the only indication of a reactivated chronic > > HHV-6 CNS infection... > > > > > > > > I've posted this type of question to Judy M for the 22nd Q & A session, I do > > hope she picks it, but it would help if more people wrote in as this could > > be crucial for autism... > > > > > > Natasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 > > <editor@...> (editor at prohealth.com) > Subject: Mikovits_Question > > > > > > Natasa...where do you post your questions for Dr. Mikovits?? > > - > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > From http://www.hhv-6foundation.org/testing.html >>> > > >>> > > ....PCR DNA tests can detect HHV-6 in the serum during primary roseola >>> > > infections and in acute transplant reactivations, but they cannot >>> determine >>> > > reliably if a patient has a chronic central nervous system (CNS) >>> infection >>> > > that has reactivated , because there is so little virus circulating >>> outside >>> > > of the tissues. HHV-6A & B viruses (especially HHV-6A) migrate to the >>> > > central nervous system and other organs and away from the bloodstream. >>> > > HHV-6A has been found to persist in the spinal fluid long after it has >>> > > disappeared from the plasma. 3 >>> > > >>> > > Researchers at the NINDS have determined from autopsy that bone marrow >>> > > transplant patients with active or reactivated infections in the CNS >>> tissue >>> > > have very little HHV-6 in the spinal fluid or serum.4This means that if the >>> > > HHV-6 is chronically active in the brain tissue, it may be impossible to >>> > > find any evidence of it in the peripheral blood or even the spinal fluid >>> > > >>> > > As is the case with pathogens with low viral copy numbers such as HHV-8 and >>> > > West Nile Virus, indirect evidence of the HHV-6 antibodies are easier to >>> > > find than the HHV-6 virus itself. Therefore elevated IgG antibody levels >>> > > (above a threshold) may be the only indication of a reactivated chronic >>> > > HHV-6 CNS infection... >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > I've posted this type of question to Judy M for the 22nd Q & A session, I do >>> > > hope she picks it, but it would help if more people wrote in as this >>> could >>> > > be crucial for autism... >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Natasa >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 I hope Natassa does not mind me answering this but I sent a question myself to: Â editor@... Â with Dr. Mitkovits question in the subject line. I made plans to watch her webinar (is that what we call it?) on Friday. I just asked a general question regarding the paper on autism - XMRV paper and if it was still being peer reviewed. Â All the best, Â Jill From: Neno/Natasa <neno@...> Subject: Re: Re: What if XMRV behaves in a similar manner? Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:57 AM Â > > <editorprohealth (DOT) com> (editor at prohealth.com) > Subject: Mikovits_Question > > > > > > Natasa...where do you post your questions for Dr. Mikovits?? > > - > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > From http://www.hhv- 6foundation. org/testing. html >>> > > >>> > > ....PCR DNA tests can detect HHV-6 in the serum during primary roseola >>> > > infections and in acute transplant reactivations, but they cannot >>> determine >>> > > reliably if a patient has a chronic central nervous system (CNS) >>> infection >>> > > that has reactivated , because there is so little virus circulating >>> outside >>> > > of the tissues. HHV-6A & B viruses (especially HHV-6A) migrate to the >>> > > central nervous system and other organs and away from the bloodstream. >>> > > HHV-6A has been found to persist in the spinal fluid long after it has >>> > > disappeared from the plasma. 3 >>> > > >>> > > Researchers at the NINDS have determined from autopsy that bone marrow >>> > > transplant patients with active or reactivated infections in the CNS >>> tissue >>> > > have very little HHV-6 in the spinal fluid or serum.4This means that if the >>> > > HHV-6 is chronically active in the brain tissue, it may be impossible to >>> > > find any evidence of it in the peripheral blood or even the spinal fluid >>> > > >>> > > As is the case with pathogens with low viral copy numbers such as HHV-8 and >>> > > West Nile Virus, indirect evidence of the HHV-6 antibodies are easier to >>> > > find than the HHV-6 virus itself. Therefore elevated IgG antibody levels >>> > > (above a threshold) may be the only indication of a reactivated chronic >>> > > HHV-6 CNS infection... >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > I've posted this type of question to Judy M for the 22nd Q & A session, I do >>> > > hope she picks it, but it would help if more people wrote in as this >>> could >>> > > be crucial for autism... >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Natasa >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 > > > absolutely not, dying to hear the answer to that one! > > please do send feedback and notes from those of us who cannot watch > > Natasa > > > I hope Natassa does not mind me answering this but I sent a question myself > to: > > editor@... <mailto:editor%40prohealth.com> > > with Dr. Mitkovits question in the subject line. I made plans to watch her > webinar (is that what we call it?) on Friday. I just asked a general question > regarding the paper on autism - XMRV paper and if it was still being peer > reviewed. > > All the best, > > Jill > > > > From: Neno/Natasa <neno@... > <mailto:neno%40dalmaholidays.co.uk> > > Subject: Re: Re: What if XMRV behaves in a similar manner? > <mailto:%40> > Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 2:57 AM > > > >> > >> > <editorprohealth (DOT) com> (editor at prohealth.com) >> > Subject: Mikovits_Question >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Natasa...where do you post your questions for Dr. Mikovits?? >> > >> > - >> > >> > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > From http://www.hhv- 6foundation. org/testing. html >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > ....PCR DNA tests can detect HHV-6 in the serum during primary roseola >>>>>> >>> > > infections and in acute transplant reactivations, but they cannot >>>> >>> determine >>>>>> >>> > > reliably if a patient has a chronic central nervous system (CNS) >>>> >>> infection >>>>>> >>> > > that has reactivated , because there is so little virus >>>>>> circulating >>>> >>> outside >>>>>> >>> > > of the tissues. HHV-6A & B viruses (especially HHV-6A) migrate to the >>>>>> >>> > > central nervous system and other organs and away from the >>>>>> bloodstream. >>>>>> >>> > > HHV-6A has been found to persist in the spinal fluid long after it has >>>>>> >>> > > disappeared from the plasma. 3 >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > Researchers at the NINDS have determined from autopsy that bone marrow >>>>>> >>> > > transplant patients with active or reactivated infections in the CNS >>>> >>> tissue >>>>>> >>> > > have very little HHV-6 in the spinal fluid or serum.4This means that if > the >>>>>> >>> > > HHV-6 is chronically active in the brain tissue, it may be >>>>>> impossible to >>>>>> >>> > > find any evidence of it in the peripheral blood or even the >>>>>> spinal fluid >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > As is the case with pathogens with low viral copy numbers such as HHV-8 > and >>>>>> >>> > > West Nile Virus, indirect evidence of the HHV-6 antibodies are >>>>>> easier to >>>>>> >>> > > find than the HHV-6 virus itself. Therefore elevated IgG antibody levels >>>>>> >>> > > (above a threshold) may be the only indication of a reactivated chronic >>>>>> >>> > > HHV-6 CNS infection... >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > I've posted this type of question to Judy M for the 22nd Q & A >>>>>> session, I > do >>>>>> >>> > > hope she picks it, but it would help if more people wrote in as >>>>>> this >>> > could >>>>>> >>> > > be crucial for autism... >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > Natasa >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > >>>>>> >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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