Re: Did an article get published yet?

[Guest guest]

I did a google news search on likely terms. I did come across thai article that

is spot on on CSF but nothing on

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/120823

From: <thecolemans4@...>

Subject: Did an article get published yet?

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Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:17 AM

 

Hi all,

I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sending this link. What is really interesting is that Kirby

has written some articles recently on the Huffington Post regarding this

increase in the rate of autism (1:91) and the hep B vaccination. He cited a

paper (although it is not peer reviewed and it involves the same

anti-vaccination researchers) in which the rate of autism is increased in boys

that have taken the Hep B vaccination. He also mentions that the rate of autism

is actually lower for the children between the ages of 3-7 but is not sure if

that is because there may be more out there that have not been diagnosed. For me

personally, I thought thimersol had no link because I had always heard that the

rate of autism is still increasing but I am starting to think otherwise. Perhaps

there is still no link but I am curious if parents are still giving the babies

hep B at birth. I know so many parents now that are still pro-vaccination but

are waiting to give the Hep B until

the children are much older. Please see his articles.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby

All the best,

Jill

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:34 AM

 

I did a google news search on likely terms. I did come across thai article that

is spot on on CSF but nothing on

http://www.american chronicle. com/articles/ view/120823

[Guest guest]

Jill

I think this is the research that Dr G is referring to:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125501227713473525.html

This is from The Wall Street Journal, There are others out today in Science and

Nature that reference this research and a press release from the FDA on the

subject but this is the only one I see that mentions Autism.

Bill

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:34 AM

I did a google news search on likely terms. I did come across thai article that

is spot on on CSF but nothing on

http://www.american chronicle. com/articles/ view/120823

[Guest guest]

Here is the same article if you are not a WSJ subscriber:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=chronic-fatigue-syndrome-re

trovirus

Kristy

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Bill

klimas

Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 2:06 PM

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

Jill

I think this is the research that Dr G is referring to:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125501227713473525.html

This is from The Wall Street Journal, There are others out today in Science

and Nature that reference this research and a press release from the FDA on

the subject but this is the only one I see that mentions Autism.

Bill

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:34 AM

I did a google news search on likely terms. I did come across thai article

that is spot on on CSF but nothing on

http://www.american chronicle. com/articles/ view/120823

[Guest guest]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=chronic-fatigue-syndrome-retrov\

irus

The WSJ article is restricted if you're not a subscriber. Here is the entire

article from Scientific America.

Robyn

________________________________

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:05:31 PM

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

Jill

I think this is the research that Dr G is referring to:

http://online. wsj.com/article/ SB12550122771347 3525.html

This is from The Wall Street Journal, There are others out today in Science and

Nature that reference this research and a press release from the FDA on the

subject but this is the only one I see that mentions Autism.

Bill

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:34 AM

I did a google news search on likely terms. I did come across thai article that

is spot on on CSF but nothing on

http://www.american chronicle. com/articles/ view/120823

[Guest guest]

Bill,

This is so f'n awesome. Sorry for the language but I am very excited. Can

someone post the whole article here? I am not a WSJ or Scientific American

subscriber. I don't know what I do without all of you here.

All the best,

Jill

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 10:34 AM

I did a google news search on likely terms. I did come across thai article that

is spot on on CSF but nothing on

http://www.american chronicle. com/articles/ view/120823

[Guest guest]

This article is awesome...I have been sharing it. Does anyone know if this

means that antiretrovirals may be indicated for our kids?

-

>

> Hi all,

> I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today?  (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The article talks about retroviruses, but herpes and measles are not considered

retroviruses. I know this article is very relevant to our children, but would

this article prove that our children are medically ill?

JR

retroviruses and herpes viruses

http://www.hopkins-hivguide.org/q_a/patient/basic_science/retroviruses_and_herpe\

s_viruses.html?contentInstanceId=389238 & siteId=7151

Posted on Apr 15, 2006

what is the difference between a retrovirus and a herpes virus? i know it's

something to do with rna, but are there other, larger differences between the

two types?

On Apr 15, 2006 E. Gallant, M.D., M.P.H. replied:

A retrovirus is an virus whose genetic material is composed of RNA, which is

" reverse transcribed " (turned into DNA) by the viral reverse transcriptase

enzyme. (Normal transcription involves turning DNA into RNA.) The viral DNA can

then be incorporated into the host (human) DNA by the viral integrase enzyme.

Herpesviruses are not retroviruses, nor are they RNA viruses; they're DNA

viruses. Like retroviruses, they can establish latency within the nucleus of the

host cell.

From: jlhank80@...

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:45:45 +0000

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

This article is awesome...I have been sharing it. Does anyone know if this means

that antiretrovirals may be indicated for our kids?

-

>

> Hi all,

> I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this XMRV...that

is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says that it causes

immune system dysfunction!!! I am jumping out of my chair right now and I hope

its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

We should all be jumping out our chairs. Even if they do not connect this to

Autism immediately the breakthrough antivirals, immune modulators and vaccines

being developed to treat CFS can be used the heal our kids.

Still a ways off but a quantum leap forward.

Bill

From: <jlhank80@...>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:20 PM

 

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this XMRV...that

is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says that it causes

immune system dysfunction! !! I am jumping out of my chair right now and I hope

its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm jumping!  And haven't studies already been done on children with AIDS,

trying to determine if they should be on anti-retroviral therapy?  And that

study showed a resolution of their autistic symptoms?  

I'll have to look for that one again... 

So I think the antiretrovirals have at least been tested on children, so if they

prove effective in treating CFS adults, then maybe it wouldn't take as long to

get it to our kids?

Just wondering,

________________________________

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 11:41:13 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Did an article get published yet?

 

We should all be jumping out our chairs. Even if they do not connect this to

Autism immediately the breakthrough antivirals, immune modulators and vaccines

being developed to treat CFS can be used the heal our kids.

Still a ways off but a quantum leap forward.

Bill

From: <jlhank80 (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:20 PM

 

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this XMRV...that

is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says that it causes

immune system dysfunction! !! I am jumping out of my chair right now and I hope

its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

How soon meds like that become indicated and available will depend on whether or

not they have already been used on some current CFS patients (in experimental

trials), if they were effective against the virus, etc.  It wouldn't surprise me

if some of the AIDS antivirals have been given to some patients already to see

how they would respond. 

Exciting!

________________________________

From: <jlhank80@...>

Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 10:45:45 AM

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

 

This article is awesome...I have been sharing it. Does anyone know if this means

that antiretrovirals may be indicated for our kids?

-

>

> Hi all,

> I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today?  (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Out of curiosity, I will ask Dr. Goldberg order a test for my son for the

retrovirus that was speficied in the article.

JR

From: klimas_bill@...

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:41:13 -0700

Subject: Re: Re: Did an article get published yet?

We should all be jumping out our chairs. Even if they do not connect this to

Autism immediately the breakthrough antivirals, immune modulators and vaccines

being developed to treat CFS can be used the heal our kids.

Still a ways off but a quantum leap forward.

Bill

From: <jlhank80@...>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:20 PM

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this XMRV...that

is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says that it causes

immune system dysfunction! !! I am jumping out of my chair right now and I hope

its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

All of this is an offshoot of the early AIDS research. The Acyclovir was

developed as a direct response to the AIDS epidemic. The protocol we are on is

the same as Dr K uses for her CFS clients but  all of her early research was on

AIDS in Miami. The realization that CFS was viral happened as an AIDS Clinician

and immunologist. Any drug trail will start with CFS patients but if approved

they will be used by other progressive Docs.

Bill

From: <thecolemans4@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Did an article get published yet?

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:03 PM

 

How soon meds like that become indicated and available will

depend on whether or not they have already been used on some current CFS

patients (in experimental trials), if they were effective against the virus,

etc. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the AIDS antivirals have been given to

some patients already to see how they would respond.

Exciting!

____________ _________ _________ __

From: <jlhank80 (DOT) com>

groups (DOT) com

Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 10:45:45 AM

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

This article is awesome...I have been sharing it. Does anyone know if this means

that antiretrovirals may be indicated for our kids?

-

>

> Hi all,

> I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That test is yet to be used outside of this trail. It will be out soon I am

sure.

From: <jlhank80 (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:20 PM

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this XMRV...that

is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says that it causes

immune system dysfunction! !! I am jumping out of my chair right now and I hope

its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The article said maybe in less than 6 months?

Teehee!

________________________________

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:42:09 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Did an article get published yet?

 

That test is yet to be used outside of this trail. It will be out soon I am

sure.

From: <jlhank80 (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:20 PM

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this XMRV...that

is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says that it causes

immune system dysfunction! !! I am jumping out of my chair right now and I hope

its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

yes there is something..Dr G mentioned to me the relevance of this

study to AIDS in an office visit on Tuesday

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:57 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Did an article get published yet?

I'm jumping! And haven't studies already been done on children with AIDS,

trying to determine if they should be on anti-retroviral therapy? And that

study showed a resolution of their autistic symptoms?

I'll have to look for that one again...

So I think the antiretrovirals have at least been tested on children, so if

they prove effective in treating CFS adults, then maybe it wouldn't take as

long to get it to our kids?

Just wondering,

________________________________

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@ <mailto:klimas_bill%40> >

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 11:41:13 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Did an article get published yet?

We should all be jumping out our chairs. Even if they do not connect this to

Autism immediately the breakthrough antivirals, immune modulators and

vaccines being developed to treat CFS can be used the heal our kids.

Still a ways off but a quantum leap forward.

Bill

From: <jlhank80 (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:20 PM

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this

XMRV...that is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says

that it causes immune system dysfunction! !! I am jumping out of my chair

right now and I hope its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get

published today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it

was, and if so, how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Even better, they are already looking into some " reverse transcriptase

inhibitors " ie. drugs that have already been approved by the FDA for other uses

that we may be able to use soon. See article!

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=chronic-fatigue-syndrome-retrov\

irus

Cheers all! Happy Happy Joy Joy - I am definitely jumping out of my chair!

Jill

<thecolemans4@...> wrote:

From: <thecolemans4@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Did an article get published yet?

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 1:50 PM

 

The article said maybe in less than 6 months?

Teehee!

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill>

groups (DOT) com

Sent: Fri, October 9, 2009 12:42:09 PM

Subject: RE: Re: Did an article get published yet?

 

That test is yet to be used outside of this trail. It will be out soon I am

sure.

From: <jlhank80 (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: Did an article get published yet?

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 12:20 PM

What if the herpes and measles became opportunistic because of this XMRV...that

is what I am thinking because if you read the article it says that it causes

immune system dysfunction! !! I am jumping out of my chair right now and I hope

its not for nothing!!! This is so exciting!!

-

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I was hoping the article or paper Dr G was excited about would get published

today? (from what a little birdie told me)... anyone know if it was, and if so,

how to find it?

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >