Guest guest Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Hello ladies: I am new here, searching for answers to my hormone imbalance. Here's my story (sorry if it's too long)! I am 55, thought my periods were over (last one 7 months ago) but then yesterday i got my period! Crazy! I had been on BHRT (P, E, and T) for 10 years (started when I was 45) and felt really good. That all came to an end last June when I started having bad anxiety and insomnia problems. Thinking it was from too much E and not enough P, I stopped the E and started raising the P. I found a website (dangerous) which promotes high doses of P for virtually every problem! So for the next 5 months or so I was using compounded P cream in doses up to 300-400 mg/day! I'd have one or two good days followed by a week of bad days. Finally I dedided lower P down to 100 mg and to add back the E but didn't get my dose up to what I was on before the problems started. Last month, hired a new doctor since the one I was going to didn't believe in any kind of testing. New doctor did bloodwork and my E was <12 and P was 3. So he doubled my E to 2.5 mg/day and lowered my P to 50 mg. I felt great for 5 days, but then the effects wore off and the anxeity/insomnia came back. So he raised the E to 3.5 mg/day and again I felt great for 3 days, but again the effects wore off. After 10 days, not only is the anxiety and insomnia with me daily, but I developed breast tenderness and swollen ankles too! I lowered the E back down to 2.5 mg and raised the P to 62.5 mg. Am I on the wrong track by doing this? I thought the anxiety/insomia were caused by low E, but how can I have low E and high E symptoms at the same time? I found a compounding pharmacist on Power Surge who answers hormone questions and so I started chatting with him. He said it could be an absorption issue so suggested sublingual tablets. I went ahead and ordered them and they should arrive tomorrow. They were outrageously expensive, but I'm going to give them a try for a month. He also recommended cycling the P 2 weeks off/2 weeks on. I have been on static dosing for 5 years of so. Can anyone give me insights on what could be happening? Is it high P or low P? High E or low E? What do you think is the best delivery system. What do you think the good effects only lasting a few days means? Is cycling the P a good idea? I'm not due to test blood for another couple weeks but I am very impatient! I did a saliva test for cortisol a few months back and it was sky high 3/4 of the day. I've read high cortisol can be from either high P or low E. Do you think the high cortisol could be causing the anxiety/insomnia? Thank you for any insight! Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 -- thanks for your reply. I will try using E with no P and see how it goes. The " period " I thought I started yesterday turns out to be just spotting. It was a little bit more spotting than I'd ever had before so I thought it was my period. What causes spotting post menopausally? Sue > > > > Hello ladies: > > I am new here, searching for answers to my hormone imbalance. Here's my story (sorry if it's too long)! > > > > I am 55, thought my periods were over (last one 7 months ago) but then yesterday i got my period! Crazy! I had been on BHRT (P, E, and T) for 10 years (started when I was 45) and felt really good. That all came to an end last June when I started having bad anxiety and insomnia problems. Thinking it was from too much E and not enough P, I stopped the E and started raising the P. I found a website (dangerous) which promotes high doses of P for virtually every problem! So for the next 5 months or so I was using compounded P cream in doses up to 300-400 mg/day! I'd have one or two good days followed by a week of bad days. Finally I dedided lower P down to 100 mg and to add back the E but didn't get my dose up to what I was on before the problems started. > > > > Last month, hired a new doctor since the one I was going to didn't believe in any kind of testing. New doctor did bloodwork and my E was <12 and P was 3. So he doubled my E to 2.5 mg/day and lowered my P to 50 mg. I felt great for 5 days, but then the effects wore off and the anxeity/insomnia came back. So he raised the E to 3.5 mg/day and again I felt great for 3 days, but again the effects wore off. After 10 days, not only is the anxiety and insomnia with me daily, but I developed breast tenderness and swollen ankles too! I lowered the E back down to 2.5 mg and raised the P to 62.5 mg. Am I on the wrong track by doing this? I thought the anxiety/insomia were caused by low E, but how can I have low E and high E symptoms at the same time? > > > > I found a compounding pharmacist on Power Surge who answers hormone questions and so I started chatting with him. He said it could be an absorption issue so suggested sublingual tablets. I went ahead and ordered them and they should arrive tomorrow. They were outrageously expensive, but I'm going to give them a try for a month. He also recommended cycling the P 2 weeks off/2 weeks on. I have been on static dosing for 5 years of so. > > > > Can anyone give me insights on what could be happening? Is it high P or low P? High E or low E? What do you think is the best delivery system. What do you think the good effects only lasting a few days means? Is cycling the P a good idea? I'm not due to test blood for another couple weeks but I am very impatient! > > > > I did a saliva test for cortisol a few months back and it was sky high 3/4 of the day. I've read high cortisol can be from either high P or low E. Do you think the high cortisol could be causing the anxiety/insomnia? > > > > Thank you for any insight! Sue > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 How many milligrams in one pump? Is Estrogel estradiol? Sue > > > > > > > > Hello ladies: > > > > I am new here, searching for answers to my hormone imbalance. Here's my story (sorry if it's too long)! > > > > > > > > I am 55, thought my periods were over (last one 7 months ago) but then yesterday i got my period! Crazy! I had been on BHRT (P, E, and T) for 10 years (started when I was 45) and felt really good. That all came to an end last June when I started having bad anxiety and insomnia problems. Thinking it was from too much E and not enough P, I stopped the E and started raising the P. I found a website (dangerous) which promotes high doses of P for virtually every problem! So for the next 5 months or so I was using compounded P cream in doses up to 300-400 mg/day! I'd have one or two good days followed by a week of bad days. Finally I dedided lower P down to 100 mg and to add back the E but didn't get my dose up to what I was on before the problems started. > > > > > > > > Last month, hired a new doctor since the one I was going to didn't believe in any kind of testing. New doctor did bloodwork and my E was <12 and P was 3. So he doubled my E to 2.5 mg/day and lowered my P to 50 mg. I felt great for 5 days, but then the effects wore off and the anxeity/insomnia came back. So he raised the E to 3.5 mg/day and again I felt great for 3 days, but again the effects wore off. After 10 days, not only is the anxiety and insomnia with me daily, but I developed breast tenderness and swollen ankles too! I lowered the E back down to 2.5 mg and raised the P to 62.5 mg. Am I on the wrong track by doing this? I thought the anxiety/insomia were caused by low E, but how can I have low E and high E symptoms at the same time? > > > > > > > > I found a compounding pharmacist on Power Surge who answers hormone questions and so I started chatting with him. He said it could be an absorption issue so suggested sublingual tablets. I went ahead and ordered them and they should arrive tomorrow. They were outrageously expensive, but I'm going to give them a try for a month. He also recommended cycling the P 2 weeks off/2 weeks on. I have been on static dosing for 5 years of so. > > > > > > > > Can anyone give me insights on what could be happening? Is it high P or low P? High E or low E? What do you think is the best delivery system. What do you think the good effects only lasting a few days means? Is cycling the P a good idea? I'm not due to test blood for another couple weeks but I am very impatient! > > > > > > > > I did a saliva test for cortisol a few months back and it was sky high 3/4 of the day. I've read high cortisol can be from either high P or low E. Do you think the high cortisol could be causing the anxiety/insomnia? > > > > > > > > Thank you for any insight! Sue > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 : After I get to the point where any progesterone buildup is washed out, what do you think about taking it orally? That way it wouldn't build up in my skin and I could take a small enough dose just to balance out the estrogen? Thanks, Sue > > > > Hello ladies: > > I am new here, searching for answers to my hormone imbalance. Here's my story (sorry if it's too long)! > > > > I am 55, thought my periods were over (last one 7 months ago) but then yesterday i got my period! Crazy! I had been on BHRT (P, E, and T) for 10 years (started when I was 45) and felt really good. That all came to an end last June when I started having bad anxiety and insomnia problems. Thinking it was from too much E and not enough P, I stopped the E and started raising the P. I found a website (dangerous) which promotes high doses of P for virtually every problem! So for the next 5 months or so I was using compounded P cream in doses up to 300-400 mg/day! I'd have one or two good days followed by a week of bad days. Finally I dedided lower P down to 100 mg and to add back the E but didn't get my dose up to what I was on before the problems started. > > > > Last month, hired a new doctor since the one I was going to didn't believe in any kind of testing. New doctor did bloodwork and my E was <12 and P was 3. So he doubled my E to 2.5 mg/day and lowered my P to 50 mg. I felt great for 5 days, but then the effects wore off and the anxeity/insomnia came back. So he raised the E to 3.5 mg/day and again I felt great for 3 days, but again the effects wore off. After 10 days, not only is the anxiety and insomnia with me daily, but I developed breast tenderness and swollen ankles too! I lowered the E back down to 2.5 mg and raised the P to 62.5 mg. Am I on the wrong track by doing this? I thought the anxiety/insomia were caused by low E, but how can I have low E and high E symptoms at the same time? > > > > I found a compounding pharmacist on Power Surge who answers hormone questions and so I started chatting with him. He said it could be an absorption issue so suggested sublingual tablets. I went ahead and ordered them and they should arrive tomorrow. They were outrageously expensive, but I'm going to give them a try for a month. He also recommended cycling the P 2 weeks off/2 weeks on. I have been on static dosing for 5 years of so. > > > > Can anyone give me insights on what could be happening? Is it high P or low P? High E or low E? What do you think is the best delivery system. What do you think the good effects only lasting a few days means? Is cycling the P a good idea? I'm not due to test blood for another couple weeks but I am very impatient! > > > > I did a saliva test for cortisol a few months back and it was sky high 3/4 of the day. I've read high cortisol can be from either high P or low E. Do you think the high cortisol could be causing the anxiety/insomnia? > > > > Thank you for any insight! Sue > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I like Prometrium best taken orally...even the small amount of subligual P drops (6.25 mg per drop)seems to be too much all at once for my system. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of problems or compalints about Prometrium bulding up...now - there were months I could not take it and my sign that the small 100mg Prometrium dose was too much is that I would get itchy scaley dry skin on my calves eith the first dose remeber - orally it goes thur the first pass of the liver and the digestive system before it fgoes into the bloodstream...so you get about 10% of the oral dose finally into the bloodstream...sublingual, vaginal or anything that goes directly into the bloodstream thru the mucousa, you get that dose directly into the bloodstream > > : > After I get to the point where any progesterone buildup is washed out, what do you think about taking it orally? That way it wouldn't build up in my skin and I could take a small enough dose just to balance out the estrogen? > Thanks, Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 : OK, just trying to understand this...So you're saying that 6.25 mg of a sublingual drop going directly into the bloodstream is too much for you, but the 10 mg orally (the portion that actually gets absorbed)is not too much? I don't understand how that could be since 10 mg is more than 6.25, but I believe you! Maybe it's because the sublingual drop goes in quickly and the pill going down into your stomach/liver etc. takes longer? Won't it be nice when all of this hormone stuff is finally all figured out? I have read so many articles and books from many different " experts " in the field and most of them disagree with each other on what the truth is! That's why I like to hear what's happened with real people using them. I really appreciate your replies! Thanks, Sue > > > > : > > After I get to the point where any progesterone buildup is washed out, what do you think about taking it orally? That way it wouldn't build up in my skin and I could take a small enough dose just to balance out the estrogen? > > Thanks, Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Yes, Sue...I am not sure why the oral works better for me and seems less of a heavy hit to my system than the sublingual drops at a smaller dose. I am thinking that generally the P is supposed to be taken every 12 hours for most constant absorption...so it must not all hit the bloodstream at once - or at least not all introduced into the same place in the bloodstream when it goes thru the digestive system. when it goes thru the mucous membranes, into the capillaries and hits the bloodstream all at the same location, I believe (I might be wrong) it is not diffused enough. I was hit VERY hard with the vaginal Progesterone...and my doctor's explanation was that it all hit my system in the same location at once and must have been too hard for me to tolerate. Yes..it is more localized to the uterus when introduced vaginally, but it hit me like a ton of bricks and I only used half of the dose I was supposed to use! > > : > OK, just trying to understand this...So you're saying that 6.25 mg of a sublingual drop going directly into the bloodstream is too much for you, but the 10 mg orally (the portion that actually gets absorbed)is not too much? I don't understand how that could be since 10 mg is more than 6.25, but I believe you! Maybe it's because the sublingual drop goes in quickly and the pill going down into your stomach/liver etc. takes longer? > > Won't it be nice when all of this hormone stuff is finally all figured out? I have read so many articles and books from many different " experts " in the field and most of them disagree with each other on what the truth is! That's why I like to hear what's happened with real people using them. > > I really appreciate your replies! Thanks, Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 this whole progesterone overloading is a fairly new concept and just simply did not exist before women " discovered " bio-identical progesterone cream and could get it without a script. In the early 2000's I wrote to an Asian Dr. who was then quite the expert on progesterone and asked him how a woman who takes no progesterone could be producing too much P resulting in high P levels. he wrote back and told me that it was rare that a woman would have " too much " progeterone, but if she did she was quite fortunate He knew of no drawbacks to having high P!! I wish I could remember his name but he had a webiste which took questions and was quite the authority. It was not Dr. Lee...this doctor was Asian. Now, doctors seem ill informed about bio-identical hormones in general... some rely on what they learned in med school or shortly thereafter and follow the lead of those who taught them..some follow the prevailing beliefs...a few good ones look more deeply into their own clinical experiences and noodle it out. Yes..each one has their own pet theories and beliefs...and when it doesn't work for a patient, they assume it is something the patient is doing wrong and begin to run scared and send you for tests and more testing to figure out why it's not working for you...if they can tell you that there is no sign of cancer, then they are happy, but this does not settle your hormone imbalances or problems trying to get balanced or rid yourself of symptoms. It is still a very much evolving science. > > Won't it be nice when all of this hormone stuff is finally all figured out? I have read so many articles and books from many different " experts " in the field and most of them disagree with each other on what the truth is! That's why I like to hear what's happened with real people using them. > > > > I really appreciate your replies! Thanks, Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Could you be thinking of Dr. Lam? this whole progesterone overloading is a fairly new concept and just simply did not exist before women " discovered " bio-identical progesterone cream and could get it without a script. In the early 2000's I wrote to an Asian Dr. who was then quite the expert on progesterone and asked him how a woman who takes no progesterone could be producing too much P resulting in high P levels. he wrote back and told me that it was rare that a woman would have " too much " progeterone, but if she did she was quite fortunate He knew of no drawbacks to having high P!! I wish I could remember his name but he had a webiste which took questions and was quite the authority. It was not Dr. Lee...this doctor was Asian. Now, doctors seem ill informed about bio-identical hormones in general... some rely on what they learned in med school or shortly thereafter and follow the lead of those who taught them..some follow the prevailing beliefs...a few good ones look more deeply into their own clinical experiences and noodle it out. Yes..each one has their own pet theories and beliefs...and when it doesn't work for a patient, they assume it is something the patient is doing wrong and begin to run scared and send you for tests and more testing to figure out why it's not working for you...if they can tell you that there is no sign of cancer, then they are happy, but this does not settle your hormone imbalances or problems trying to get balanced or rid yourself of symptoms. It is still a very much evolving science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 > > Could you be thinking of Dr. Lam? YES!!!! Dr Lam! thanks Liz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 This sounds so much like me. I was also overdosed on Progesterone (and hydrocortisone) and I also have been having anxiety issues. For the past year and a half actually. I've been off all hormones for almost a year and off the hydrocortisone for over a year. Took me a while to figure out what was causing the anxiety. Now, I'm trying to figure out how to get rid of it. My cortisol level in the morning is now low and afternoon is a tiny bit high. But I have anxiety in the morning until early afternoon. My hormone levels are non existent, but I'm scared to death to get back on them after what happened last time. Any suggestions for a dr. or NP or whatever in the DFW, TX area that can help me sort this mess out and get to feeling like myself again? Please reply off list. Helen > > Hello ladies: > I am new here, searching for answers to my hormone imbalance. Here's my story (sorry if it's too long)! > > I am 55, thought my periods were over (last one 7 months ago) but then yesterday i got my period! Crazy! I had been on BHRT (P, E, and T) for 10 years (started when I was 45) and felt really good. That all came to an end last June when I started having bad anxiety and insomnia problems. Thinking it was from too much E and not enough P, I stopped the E and started raising the P. I found a website (dangerous) which promotes high doses of P for virtually every problem! So for the next 5 months or so I was using compounded P cream in doses up to 300-400 mg/day! I'd have one or two good days followed by a week of bad days. Finally I dedided lower P down to 100 mg and to add back the E but didn't get my dose up to what I was on before the problems started. > > Last month, hired a new doctor since the one I was going to didn't believe in any kind of testing. New doctor did bloodwork and my E was <12 and P was 3. So he doubled my E to 2.5 mg/day and lowered my P to 50 mg. I felt great for 5 days, but then the effects wore off and the anxeity/insomnia came back. So he raised the E to 3.5 mg/day and again I felt great for 3 days, but again the effects wore off. After 10 days, not only is the anxiety and insomnia with me daily, but I developed breast tenderness and swollen ankles too! I lowered the E back down to 2.5 mg and raised the P to 62.5 mg. Am I on the wrong track by doing this? I thought the anxiety/insomia were caused by low E, but how can I have low E and high E symptoms at the same time? > > I found a compounding pharmacist on Power Surge who answers hormone questions and so I started chatting with him. He said it could be an absorption issue so suggested sublingual tablets. I went ahead and ordered them and they should arrive tomorrow. They were outrageously expensive, but I'm going to give them a try for a month. He also recommended cycling the P 2 weeks off/2 weeks on. I have been on static dosing for 5 years of so. > > Can anyone give me insights on what could be happening? Is it high P or low P? High E or low E? What do you think is the best delivery system. What do you think the good effects only lasting a few days means? Is cycling the P a good idea? I'm not due to test blood for another couple weeks but I am very impatient! > > I did a saliva test for cortisol a few months back and it was sky high 3/4 of the day. I've read high cortisol can be from either high P or low E. Do you think the high cortisol could be causing the anxiety/insomnia? > > Thank you for any insight! Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Helen, Have you considered trying a little Estradiol? This might help and you will know pretty quickly. If it causes more, then stopping it is an option and it will leave pretty quickly. (The E that is) Liz This sounds so much like me. I was also overdosed on Progesterone (and hydrocortisone) and I also have been having anxiety issues. For the past year and a half actually. I've been off all hormones for almost a year and off the hydrocortisone for over a year. Took me a while to figure out what was causing the anxiety. Now, I'm trying to figure out how to get rid of it. My cortisol level in the morning is now low and afternoon is a tiny bit high. But I have anxiety in the morning until early afternoon. My hormone levels are non existent, but I'm scared to death to get back on them after what happened last time. Any suggestions for a dr. or NP or whatever in the DFW, TX area that can help me sort this mess out and get to feeling like myself again? Please reply off list. Helen > > Hello ladies: > I am new here, searching for answers to my hormone imbalance. Here's my story (sorry if it's too long)! > > I am 55, thought my periods were over (last one 7 months ago) but then yesterday i got my period! Crazy! I had been on BHRT (P, E, and T) for 10 years (started when I was 45) and felt really good. That all came to an end last June when I started having bad anxiety and insomnia problems. Thinking it was from too much E and not enough P, I stopped the E and started raising the P. I found a website (dangerous) which promotes high doses of P for virtually every problem! So for the next 5 months or so I was using compounded P cream in doses up to 300-400 mg/day! I'd have one or two good days followed by a week of bad days. Finally I dedided lower P down to 100 mg and to add back the E but didn't get my dose up to what I was on before the problems started. > > Last month, hired a new doctor since the one I was going to didn't believe in any kind of testing. New doctor did bloodwork and my E was <12 and P was 3. So he doubled my E to 2.5 mg/day and lowered my P to 50 mg. I felt great for 5 days, but then the effects wore off and the anxeity/insomnia came back. So he raised the E to 3.5 mg/day and again I felt great for 3 days, but again the effects wore off. After 10 days, not only is the anxiety and insomnia with me daily, but I developed breast tenderness and swollen ankles too! I lowered the E back down to 2.5 mg and raised the P to 62.5 mg. Am I on the wrong track by doing this? I thought the anxiety/insomia were caused by low E, but how can I have low E and high E symptoms at the same time? > > I found a compounding pharmacist on Power Surge who answers hormone questions and so I started chatting with him. He said it could be an absorption issue so suggested sublingual tablets. I went ahead and ordered them and they should arrive tomorrow. They were outrageously expensive, but I'm going to give them a try for a month. He also recommended cycling the P 2 weeks off/2 weeks on. I have been on static dosing for 5 years of so. > > Can anyone give me insights on what could be happening? Is it high P or low P? High E or low E? What do you think is the best delivery system. What do you think the good effects only lasting a few days means? Is cycling the P a good idea? I'm not due to test blood for another couple weeks but I am very impatient! > > I did a saliva test for cortisol a few months back and it was sky high 3/4 of the day. I've read high cortisol can be from either high P or low E. Do you think the high cortisol could be causing the anxiety/insomnia? > > Thank you for any insight! Sue > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Liz, I have no way of trying just a bit of Estradiol. I still have my uterus and no dr. will prescribe Estradiol without progesterone. Also, I would have to find a dr. first. I'm hoping members on this board will help me in my quest to find a good dr. or ND in the DFW Texas area who can help me with this morning/early afternoon anxiety problem. Helen > >> > > >> > Hello ladies: > >> > I am new here, searching for answers to my hormone imbalance. Here's my > >> story (sorry if it's too long)! > >> > > >> > I am 55, thought my periods were over (last one 7 months ago) but then > >> yesterday i got my period! Crazy! I had been on BHRT (P, E, and T) for 10 > >> years (started when I was 45) and felt really good. That all came to an end > >> last June when I started having bad anxiety and insomnia problems. Thinking > >> it was from too much E and not enough P, I stopped the E and started raising > >> the P. I found a website (dangerous) which promotes high doses of P for > >> virtually every problem! So for the next 5 months or so I was using > >> compounded P cream in doses up to 300-400 mg/day! I'd have one or two good > >> days followed by a week of bad days. Finally I dedided lower P down to 100 mg > >> and to add back the E but didn't get my dose up to what I was on before the > >> problems started. > >> > > >> > Last month, hired a new doctor since the one I was going to didn't believe > >> in any kind of testing. New doctor did bloodwork and my E was <12 and P was > >> 3. So he doubled my E to 2.5 mg/day and lowered my P to 50 mg. I felt great > >> for 5 days, but then the effects wore off and the anxeity/insomnia came back. > >> So he raised the E to 3.5 mg/day and again I felt great for 3 days, but again > >> the effects wore off. After 10 days, not only is the anxiety and insomnia > >> with me daily, but I developed breast tenderness and swollen ankles too! I > >> lowered the E back down to 2.5 mg and raised the P to 62.5 mg. Am I on the > >> wrong track by doing this? I thought the anxiety/insomia were caused by low > >> E, but how can I have low E and high E symptoms at the same time? > >> > > >> > I found a compounding pharmacist on Power Surge who answers hormone > >> questions and so I started chatting with him. He said it could be an > >> absorption issue so suggested sublingual tablets. I went ahead and ordered > >> them and they should arrive tomorrow. They were outrageously expensive, but > >> I'm going to give them a try for a month. He also recommended cycling the P 2 > >> weeks off/2 weeks on. I have been on static dosing for 5 years of so. > >> > > >> > Can anyone give me insights on what could be happening? Is it high P or low > >> P? High E or low E? What do you think is the best delivery system. What do > >> you think the good effects only lasting a few days means? Is cycling the P a > >> good idea? I'm not due to test blood for another couple weeks but I am very > >> impatient! > >> > > >> > I did a saliva test for cortisol a few months back and it was sky high 3/4 > >> of the day. I've read high cortisol can be from either high P or low E. Do > >> you think the high cortisol could be causing the anxiety/insomnia? > >> > > >> > Thank you for any insight! Sue > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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