Re: Re: New here - looking for some direction

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, Check out Dr Vliet's book "Screaming to be heard"..there is an case study in her book that sounded identical to your story, and how she treated her. The woman now is doing great. Food for thought!TerriTo: rhythmicliving Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:40 AMSubject: Re: New here - looking for some direction

Hi Terri,

Thanks for replying. Yes I did bleed heavily, close to dying actually.

I am glad my low iron days are over!

I am not convinced that my E is high, my cycle currently is 30 to 31 days, it has been for quite some time, and I look to some of my symptoms, dry eyes, dry itchy skin, mild hot flashes, mild night sweats etc.

I didn't post my thyroid labs. And yes thyroid can be one of the hardest to get help with. I suffered for many years starting at the age of 24, it took 4+ years and almost going into a myxedema coma (its a loss of brain function as a result of severe, longstanding low level of thyroid hormone) to get help for my low thyroid. By bio-identical thyroid are you referring to Amour Thyroid/desiccated thyroid? If you are than yes I am familiar with it. I am on T3 only because of a reverse t3 issue and will be switching back to desiccated when the time is right.

I do plan on starting E on day 1 of my cycle and would like some info/guidance on rhythmic dosing of E.

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>               When you gave birth to your 2nd son, did you have any heavy bleeding? That can throw your whole axis off hormonally. It sounds to me looking at your labs that you were high in E, not low..usually that late in your cycle E starts to drop a little. Actually, all your levels looked good, except for Thyroid..that looked low. Thyroid is a major hormone, and when lacking your adrenals suffer, and then one can have problems with allergies and other auto-immune diseases. You can get Bio-Identical Thyroid replacement. Most Drs do not understand Thyroid replacement, nor testing Thyroid levels even. Testosterone helps the adrenals..but you should only replace what you're low, or missing. I think Thyroid is THE hardest to get help with because Drs just look at the HUGE, OLD referrance

range..too outdated IMHO.

> Terri

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> To: rhythmicliving

> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 1:47 PM

> Subject: New here - looking for some direction

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> Hello Group,

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> My name is I am new here and looking for some direction. My most recent sex hormone labs showed that I am low and T and E. I will be able to access compounded E, P (if/when needed)and T.

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> Brief medical history. Started to get sick around the age of 24, four years later it was diagnosed as Hashimoto's, 6 months after the birth of my second son, that would have been in Feb 2001. By spring of 2002 I was hospitalized and diagnosed with 2 more autoimmune diseases.

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> Many very sick years later, about 2009 I got the root of the problem, extremely low iron, synthetic T4 thyroid meds, and bad adrenals. It's taken a few years (why does it take so long, we need more cooperative doctors!) my low iron was fixed with IV iron, started on hydrocortisone 19 weeks ago and have been on T3 for 1 year now to get rid of reverse T3 and looking forward to switching back to desiccated thyroid soon.

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> So a couple of questions.

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> How long does it take for T to start working? I just started applying it to the back of my knees. I can't be entirely sure but I think I started sleeping better since starting.

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> I am interested in rhythmic dosing and until I get compounded E I have EstroGel 0.06% - usual recommended dose is 2.5g daily. Each metered actuation delivers 1.25 g of gel. This is day 29 of my cycle and wanted to wait to start E on day 1 keeping to my natural cycle.

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> Based on my results I am pretty sure I don't need P at all (for now at least).

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> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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> Kind regards,

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> meds, supplements and labs below

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> Current meds:

> Cytomel for thyroid

> Cortef, hydrocortisone for adrenal fatigue

> Just started compounded T on Oct 12

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> Supplements:

> Vit E

> Vit C

> B complex

> B12

> B5

> Vit D

> Vit A

> Multi Mineral

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> September 15/11 Taken Day 23 of my cycle

> LH Serum 2.5 (1.2-12.9)

> FSH 2.8 (1.8-5.1)

> Testosterone <0.3 (0.4-2.6) Marked as Low

> Free Testosterone 0.7 (0-9.0)

> Estradiol 745 (350-1590)

> Progesterone 52.9 (16.4-59.0)

> Prolactin 4.5 (3.3-26.7)

> DHEA-S 0.9 (7.3-14.0)Marked as Low

> Androstenedione 3.9 (1-11.5)

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It looks like the RT3 problem is actually a doctor problem.

I'd llke to String that boy up by his thumbs....

Trust your gut feeling, ...Erfa is a very very good med!

Sam

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> Hi Sam,

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> Yes I was on ERFA. In Oct.2009 I made the switch from synthroid/cytomel to

> erfa, started low and worked my way up to 5 grains by Jan. 10. At the

> beginning of 2010 I weighed 185 lbs, by Feb/Mar without effort I started

> to loose weight, I got down to about 145 lbs. I felt better than I had

> since forever, since before getting sick at all. That lasted till about

> June, the doc didn't like my numbers and started to cut back my meds and

> things started to go down hill. My FT4 was mid range and my FT3 was just

> barely over normal. After he cut me back My FT4 went above mid range and

> my FT3 went a 2 points above normal. That's when it was suggested to me

> that I had a RT3 problem that would have been in Sep/Oct 2010, switched to

> T3 only at that time.

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> Its been nagging at me for a few weeks, just a gut feeling that I need to

> switch back to desiccated.

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> Thanks for your input Sam, its very appreciated.

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>> , I'm listowner of the thyroidless group and I wanted to mention

>> a

>> little about " treating " Rt3. Apart from the fact that RT3 fluctuates

>> naturally, there are quite a few other causes of increased RT3 besides

>> thyroid which do not require " treatment " with a synthetic t3 drug.

>> Synthetic thyroid drugs have their own set of issues and can increase

>> SHBG, so keep that in mind when trying to balance sex hormones.

>> http://www.tiredthyroid.com/rt3.html

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>> Had you previously been on a good desiccated porcine thyroid such as

>> Erfa

>> Thyroid or Naturethroid, or just reformulated Armour (which, in my

>> opinion

>> and experience, was turned into crap)?

>>

>> Sam

>> (porcine thyroid/BHRT dosed entirely by symptoms)

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>> > Hi Terri,

>> >

>> > Thanks for replying. Yes I did bleed heavily, close to dying actually.

>> > I am glad my low iron days are over!

>> >

>> > I am not convinced that my E is high, my cycle currently is 30 to 31

>> days,

>> > it has been for quite some time, and I look to some of my symptoms,

>> dry

>> > eyes, dry itchy skin, mild hot flashes, mild night sweats etc.

>> >

>> > I didn't post my thyroid labs. And yes thyroid can be one of the

>> hardest

>> > to get help with. I suffered for many years starting at the age of 24,

>> it

>> > took 4+ years and almost going into a myxedema coma (its a loss of

>> brain

>> > function as a result of severe, longstanding low level of thyroid

>> hormone)

>> > to get help for my low thyroid. By bio-identical thyroid are you

>> referring

>> > to Amour Thyroid/desiccated thyroid? If you are than yes I am familiar

>> > with it. I am on T3 only because of a reverse t3 issue and will be

>> > switching back to desiccated when the time is right.

>> >

>> > I do plan on starting E on day 1 of my cycle and would like some

>> > info/guidance on rhythmic dosing of E.

>> >

>> >

>>

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