Need Formby statement on inaccuracy of saliva tests for P

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Hi all,

I've not been here in a long time, but do read every so often.

I am in a discussion with a compounding pharmacist who insists almost everyone

is progesterone deficient. He says this with no studies to back him up. I've

studied this extensively, have books by Reiss, Vliet, and others, and have read

the RL site so I feel I know this subject well, having experienced negative side

effects from P.

However, I was trying to find the article I read once by Brent Formby about why

saliva tests for P are not accurate and cannot seem to find it. If someone can

find it for me I will be very grateful.

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Dr Formby never did say they were inaccurate in fact he said people he knows in

academic medicine use them. However I do not know if the testing available to

the lay public is the same method. I simply don't know. What is tricky? Once we

are seriously overdosed its hard to measure.

I suggest a very close read of this article.

http://rhythmicliving.org/?page_id=87

It helps to get a pen and track the numbers he is talking about. I suppose that

might be the article you are thinking about.

Laurel

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> Hi all,

> I've not been here in a long time, but do read every so often.

>

> I am in a discussion with a compounding pharmacist who insists almost everyone

is progesterone deficient. He says this with no studies to back him up. I've

studied this extensively, have books by Reiss, Vliet, and others, and have read

the RL site so I feel I know this subject well, having experienced negative side

effects from P.

>

> However, I was trying to find the article I read once by Brent Formby about

why saliva tests for P are not accurate and cannot seem to find it. If someone

can find it for me I will be very grateful.

>

>

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Hi Laurel,

I did read that and saw the part about " some studies " showing accurate levels of

P. But I'm pretty sure I also read a paragraph or two by him explaining the

physiological reason why saliva tests often do not accurately reflect the actual

levels of P. And I thought I had seen you post it on this forum some time ago.

I think I originally read it on the old RL website. Does it ring a bell?

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> > Hi all,

> > I've not been here in a long time, but do read every so often.

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> > I am in a discussion with a compounding pharmacist who insists almost

everyone is progesterone deficient. He says this with no studies to back him

up. I've studied this extensively, have books by Reiss, Vliet, and others, and

have read the RL site so I feel I know this subject well, having experienced

negative side effects from P.

> >

> > However, I was trying to find the article I read once by Brent Formby about

why saliva tests for P are not accurate and cannot seem to find it. If someone

can find it for me I will be very grateful.

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> >

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Hi Laurel,I also read the same information about 3 months ago. Deb From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On Behalf Of sedonagalSent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 1:06 PMTo: rhythmicliving Subject: Re: Need Formby statement on inaccuracy of saliva tests for P Hi Laurel,I did read that and saw the part about " some studies " showing accurate levels of P. But I'm pretty sure I also read a paragraph or two by him explaining the physiological reason why saliva tests often do not accurately reflect the actual levels of P. And I thought I had seen you post it on this forum some time ago. I think I originally read it on the old RL website. Does it ring a bell?> >> > Hi all,> > I've not been here in a long time, but do read every so often.> > > > I am in a discussion with a compounding pharmacist who insists almost everyone is progesterone deficient. He says this with no studies to back him up. I've studied this extensively, have books by Reiss, Vliet, and others, and have read the RL site so I feel I know this subject well, having experienced negative side effects from P.> > > > However, I was trying to find the article I read once by Brent Formby about why saliva tests for P are not accurate and cannot seem to find it. If someone can find it for me I will be very grateful.> > > > > >>No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4660 - Release Date: 12/06/11

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Hi Laurel, I also read the same information a long while ago. I do not remember the details but I do remember that saliva testing was thought to be inaccurate because of the storage of hormones in fatty tissue when using transdermal application of the hormones. This was in an interview or article by Dr. Formby. I would like to find this article again also. Deb

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Is this by any chance the pharmacist who sends out a newsletter where people send in questions and he answers them? Can't remember his name right now (terrible brain fog), but sometimes he has good advice about various products and drugs, however, he answers any hormonal question by saying that all menopausal women are "estrogen dominant" and need progesterone. I thought about writing to him about it, but decided there wasn't much hope.

Gael

Hi all,I've not been here in a long time, but do read every so often.I am in a discussion with a compounding pharmacist who insists almost everyone is progesterone deficient. He says this with no studies to back him up. I've studied this extensively, have books by Reiss, Vliet, and others, and have read the RL site so I feel I know this subject well, having experienced negative side effects from P.However, I was trying to find the article I read once by Brent Formby about why saliva tests for P are not accurate and cannot seem to find it. If someone can find it for me I will be very grateful.

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I was on100 mg/d Prometrium for a year.  My blood glucose went from 120 to 84 when I dropped back to 10 days/month.  The progesterone pushers have the propensity to do considerable harm. Val From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On Behalf Of gaelgreen@...Is this by any chance the pharmacist who sends out a newsletter where people send in questions and he answers them? Can't remember his name right now (terrible brain fog), but sometimes he has good advice about various products and drugs, however, he answers any hormonal question by saying that all menopausal women are " estrogen dominant " and need progesterone. I thought about writing to him about it, but decided there wasn't much hope. Gael Hi all,I've not been here in a long time, but do read every so often.I am in a discussion with a compounding pharmacist who insists almost everyone is progesterone deficient. He says this with no studies to back him up. I've studied this extensively, have books by Reiss, Vliet, and others, and have read the RL site so I feel I know this subject well, having experienced negative side effects from P.However, I was trying to find the article I read once by Brent Formby about why saliva tests for P are not accurate and cannot seem to find it. If someone can find it for me I will be very grateful.