Re: Re: Diet/and other frustrations -- To Robyn and Lynne

[Guest guest]

I've noticed the same thing with Noah regarding the red cheeks and excitement.

He can get red cheeks from a food reaction, but every time he has red cheeks,

it's not necessarily a food infraction. The other two get pale with allergy

eyes.

robyn

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From: " donnaaron@... " <donnaaron@...>

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 11:33:41 AM

Subject: Re: Diet/and other frustrations -- To Robyn and Lynne

Hey ladies,

Sorry I didn't respond to your earlier replies to me. Somehow I missed them.

Anyway, thank you for your input. does seem a lot better now -- I think

he WAS just adjusting to the new medication. He still gets those red cheeks,

though, but I honestly don't think it's usually related to food. He will come

home from school with normal-looking cheeks, and then he starts playing a video

game, and within about 1/2 hour -- red cheeks. I think his heart rate goes up

with the excitement and he just gets flushed. I've noticed that when he does

eat a " forbidden " food, his cheeks *and EARS* immediately get red. When he's

playing, it's just his cheeks that do so, even though he hasn't eaten anything.

So I'm still more inclined to believe that the red cheeks are related to

excitement and not a food reaction.

I realize that Dr. G would probably disagree, but this is where I am for the

moment.

Thanks again,

Donna

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> > Hi All,

> >

> > Is anyone willing to share some feedback/encouragem ent regarding Dr. G's

diet for our kids? We have been doing it for 3 years now and I am growing

fatigued from it (and falling off the wagon). Of course, Dr. G says how

important it is, but when we occasionally " cheat " , we don't see any negative

results, until we gradually cheat more and more. Then I think, " Well, maybe

is one of those kids who does not need the diet " . Meanwhile, three

months go by and were wondering if the diet needs to be adjusted.

> >

> > We are adamant about no dairy, but I think we give far too many carbs. Have

any of you gone off the diet and still been able to maintain improvement with

the protocol?

> >

> > Maybe I just need a kick square in the pants to put me back on track! Any

comments/suggestion s appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> >

>

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>

>

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[Guest guest]

I can't remember specifically what it's called but there  is a ?sulfation

pathway? that can be dysfunctional in our kids - help me out - the one they do

epsom salt baths for?

That causes the red cheeks and red ears.  It can cause mild discomfort and

spontaneous behaviors.  But I did not ever pull those triggers out of the diet

because they aren't actually doing anything negative specific to .  During

that time they did epsom salt baths just for the heck of it, even though I

didn't necessarily believe it would help, but the boys enjoyed putting the salt

in their water (after their hair was washed) and I thought maybe it relaxed

them in the evening.  I tried to figure out for a while which foods were high

in whatever it was that triggered this but decided I had enough diet issues, and

if it wasn't a -negative, I wasn't going to worry about it.

It also went away after a few months on meds.

HTH

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From: " donnaaron@... " <donnaaron@...>

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 1:33:41 PM

Subject: Re: Diet/and other frustrations -- To Robyn and Lynne

 

Hey ladies,

Sorry I didn't respond to your earlier replies to me. Somehow I missed them.

Anyway, thank you for your input. does seem a lot better now -- I think he

WAS just adjusting to the new medication. He still gets those red cheeks,

though, but I honestly don't think it's usually related to food. He will come

home from school with normal-looking cheeks, and then he starts playing a video

game, and within about 1/2 hour -- red cheeks. I think his heart rate goes up

with the excitement and he just gets flushed. I've noticed that when he does eat

a " forbidden " food, his cheeks *and EARS* immediately get red. When he's

playing, it's just his cheeks that do so, even though he hasn't eaten anything.

So I'm still more inclined to believe that the red cheeks are related to

excitement and not a food reaction.

I realize that Dr. G would probably disagree, but this is where I am for the

moment.

Thanks again,

Donna

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Is anyone willing to share some feedback/encouragem ent regarding Dr. G's

diet for our kids? We have been doing it for 3 years now and I am growing

fatigued from it (and falling off the wagon). Of course, Dr. G says how

important it is, but when we occasionally " cheat " , we don't see any negative

results, until we gradually cheat more and more. Then I think, " Well, maybe

is one of those kids who does not need the diet " . Meanwhile, three

months go by and were wondering if the diet needs to be adjusted.

> >

> > We are adamant about no dairy, but I think we give far too many carbs. Have

any of you gone off the diet and still been able to maintain improvement with

the protocol?

> >

> > Maybe I just need a kick square in the pants to put me back on track! Any

comments/suggestion s appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I used to do the epsom salt baths for Noah as well. I never really saw any

" wows " but it did calm him. He loves the water though, so it was probably more

that.

Robyn

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From: <thecolemans4@...>

Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 8:54:58 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Diet/and other frustrations -- To Robyn and Lynne

I can't remember specifically what it's called but there is a ?sulfation

pathway? that can be dysfunctional in our kids - help me out - the one they do

epsom salt baths for?

That causes the red cheeks and red ears. It can cause mild discomfort and

spontaneous behaviors. But I did not ever pull those triggers out of the diet

because they aren't actually doing anything negative specific to . During

that time they did epsom salt baths just for the heck of it, even though I

didn't necessarily believe it would help, but the boys enjoyed putting the salt

in their water (after their hair was washed) and I thought maybe it relaxed them

in the evening. I tried to figure out for a while which foods were high in

whatever it was that triggered this but decided I had enough diet issues, and if

it wasn't a -negative, I wasn't going to worry about it.

It also went away after a few months on meds.

HTH

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From: " donnaaron@sbcglobal .net " <donnaaron@sbcglobal .net>

groups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 1:33:41 PM

Subject: Re: Diet/and other frustrations -- To Robyn and Lynne

Hey ladies,

Sorry I didn't respond to your earlier replies to me. Somehow I missed them.

Anyway, thank you for your input. does seem a lot better now -- I think he

WAS just adjusting to the new medication. He still gets those red cheeks,

though, but I honestly don't think it's usually related to food. He will come

home from school with normal-looking cheeks, and then he starts playing a video

game, and within about 1/2 hour -- red cheeks. I think his heart rate goes up

with the excitement and he just gets flushed. I've noticed that when he does eat

a " forbidden " food, his cheeks *and EARS* immediately get red. When he's

playing, it's just his cheeks that do so, even though he hasn't eaten anything.

So I'm still more inclined to believe that the red cheeks are related to

excitement and not a food reaction.

I realize that Dr. G would probably disagree, but this is where I am for the

moment.

Thanks again,

Donna

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Is anyone willing to share some feedback/encouragem ent regarding Dr. G's

diet for our kids? We have been doing it for 3 years now and I am growing

fatigued from it (and falling off the wagon). Of course, Dr. G says how

important it is, but when we occasionally " cheat " , we don't see any negative

results, until we gradually cheat more and more. Then I think, " Well, maybe

is one of those kids who does not need the diet " . Meanwhile, three

months go by and were wondering if the diet needs to be adjusted.

> >

> > We are adamant about no dairy, but I think we give far too many carbs. Have

any of you gone off the diet and still been able to maintain improvement with

the protocol?

> >

> > Maybe I just need a kick square in the pants to put me back on track! Any

comments/suggestion s appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Donna,

Interesting observation. I have always had a difficulty with electronics and my

son's agitation issues, An advocate we have said she has seen it a lot. She

describes it as  the old neuro-feedback working in reverse. Instead of

re-wirering the brain, kind of short circuiting he brain. What ever but if

Connor spends more than an hour on TV or computer, it kind of kick starts an

melt down. If you catch it and redirect him into a activity that has positive

mood reinforcement he calms. If you jump him he gets set off. Does anyone else

have issues with electronic?

From: donnaaron@... <donnaaron@...>

Subject: Re: Diet/and other frustrations -- To Robyn and Lynne

Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 2:33 PM

 

Hey ladies,

Sorry I didn't respond to your earlier replies to me. Somehow I missed them.

Anyway, thank you for your input. does seem a lot better now -- I think

he WAS just adjusting to the new medication. He still gets those red cheeks,

though, but I honestly don't think it's usually related to food. He will come

home from school with normal-looking cheeks, and then he starts playing a video

game, and within about 1/2 hour -- red cheeks. I think his heart rate goes up

with the excitement and he just gets flushed. I've noticed that when he does

eat a " forbidden " food, his cheeks *and EARS* immediately get red. When he's

playing, it's just his cheeks that do so, even though he hasn't eaten anything.

So I'm still more inclined to believe that the red cheeks are related to

excitement and not a food reaction.

I realize that Dr. G would probably disagree, but this is where I am for the

moment.

Thanks again,

Donna

> >

> > Hi All,

> >

> > Is anyone willing to share some feedback/encouragem ent regarding Dr. G's

diet for our kids? We have been doing it for 3 years now and I am growing

fatigued from it (and falling off the wagon). Of course, Dr. G says how

important it is, but when we occasionally " cheat " , we don't see any negative

results, until we gradually cheat more and more. Then I think, " Well, maybe

is one of those kids who does not need the diet " . Meanwhile, three

months go by and were wondering if the diet needs to be adjusted.

> >

> > We are adamant about no dairy, but I think we give far too many carbs. Have

any of you gone off the diet and still been able to maintain improvement with

the protocol?

> >

> > Maybe I just need a kick square in the pants to put me back on track! Any

comments/suggestion s appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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