Re: Nizerol/aggression

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Our experience has been that Nizoral made the most improvements against

aggression next to eliminating 3 other big triggers.

In my son, soy protein is the biggest trigger for aggression.  I also notice

that his pupils are more dilated when he has issues with aggression.  Anytime I

notice that, I start hunting for whatever he is eating too much of that has soy

protein - especially soy lecithen - in it.

Is your son on soy milk?  Or does he have a food that he eats daily with soy in

it?  This excludes soybean oil - that doesn't have protein in it so there isn't

a problem with that.  Most of the time it's soy lecithen, but hydrolysed soy

protein may be a problem too.

I can't emphasize how bad the soy protein is in kids with aggression.  If you

try to remove this, you have to allow for 5 days for the trigger to go away, and

then about a week for the 'behavioral memory' to diminish.

The other aggression trigger can be allergy meds - especially zyrtec.  Benedryl

doesn't seem to be too bad.  Allergy meds were hard to figure out because it

took up to 2 months to see problems from it, so I had long ago ruled it out as a

negative.  But we have not once gotten away with allergy meds and have suffered

many months of rage before finally giving up.  Now he will only be given nose

sprays, and during pollen season we'll give bendryl at half dose at bedtime. 

*In every kid at my work (we have an outpt treatment center for kids with autism

and I pulled records on the following one day), those with aggression or

oppositional behavior problems are on zyrtec.  Every one.  And maybe half of

them drink soy milk due to milk allergies.  I wanted to show this connection to

the psychiatrist but had no luck convincing him to consider zyrtec as a trigger

for the behavior problems.  (I showed the same connection for the kids w/OCD

and a history of

chronic strep infections - every single child with ocd had a history of

chronic strep and often had tonsillectomies.)

The last big aggression trigger is melatonin.  Again, it takes a long time for

it to show up as a problem, and then about 5 days after stopping for a relief.

I really believe aggression can be stopped if you can find the trigger.

HTH,

________________________________

From: Terri <andersonterri@...>

Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 9:42:32 AM

Subject: Re: Nizerol

 

We have been on it for about a month. It has gotten a little better~but then we

started Paxil.  He is continuing to be somewhat aggressive.  Dr G increased

his Paxil dosage so we are hoping that may improve it.

I know Dr G really likes Nizerol vs. Difulcan.

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From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggssbcglobal (DOT) net>

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Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 10:13:59 PM

Subject: Re: Nizerol

 

When did you start Nizoral? The only time I've seen that kind of behavior with

my kids is with yeast die off, which can be just as intense as viral die off.

Robyn

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From: Terri <andersonterri@ ymail.com>

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Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 7:06:37 PM

Subject: Nizerol

All:

I would also love some feedback on experiences with Nizerol~

Did you experience any aggression with this drug? My son seems more agitated and

has been biting his arm sleeve quite a bit~ this was even before we started the

Paxil.

The drug we have seen the most improvement with is Valtrex. We are hoping to

start Immuvior soon.

I have read about some negative responses--but Dr G does not seem to want to

switch.

Thanks- Terri

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[Guest guest]

Thank you ~I need to go through his processed foods~but I do not think he

has any soy foods.   We have been able to transition to goats milk.   

Additionally, we are not on any allergy medicine either.  

Interestingly, is one of the " red cheek and ears kids " as well.   I have

been watching very carefully to see if there are any food triggers~and it doesnt

seem to have any patterns.

The puzzle continues.

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From: <thecolemans4@...>

Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 10:38:56 AM

Subject: Re: Nizerol/aggression

 

Our experience has been that Nizoral made the most improvements against

aggression next to eliminating 3 other big triggers.

In my son, soy protein is the biggest trigger for aggression.  I also notice

that his pupils are more dilated when he has issues with aggression.  Anytime I

notice that, I start hunting for whatever he is eating too much of that has soy

protein - especially soy lecithen - in it.

Is your son on soy milk?  Or does he have a food that he eats daily with soy in

it?  This excludes soybean oil - that doesn't have protein in it so there isn't

a problem with that.  Most of the time it's soy lecithen, but hydrolysed soy

protein may be a problem too.

I can't emphasize how bad the soy protein is in kids with aggression.  If you

try to remove this, you have to allow for 5 days for the trigger to go away, and

then about a week for the 'behavioral memory' to diminish.

The other aggression trigger can be allergy meds - especially zyrtec.  Benedryl

doesn't seem to be too bad.  Allergy meds were hard to figure out because it

took up to 2 months to see problems from it, so I had long ago ruled it out as a

negative.  But we have not once gotten away with allergy meds and have suffered

many months of rage before finally giving up.  Now he will only be given nose

sprays, and during pollen season we'll give bendryl at half dose at bedtime. 

*In every kid at my work (we have an outpt treatment center for kids with autism

and I pulled records on the following one day), those with aggression or

oppositional behavior problems are on zyrtec.  Every one.  And maybe half of

them drink soy milk due to milk allergies.  I wanted to show this connection to

the psychiatrist but had no luck convincing him to consider zyrtec as a trigger

for the behavior problems.  (I showed the same connection for the kids w/OCD

and a history of

chronic strep infections - every single child with ocd had a history of chronic

strep and often had tonsillectomies. )

The last big aggression trigger is melatonin.  Again, it takes a long time for

it to show up as a problem, and then about 5 days after stopping for a relief.

I really believe aggression can be stopped if you can find the trigger.

HTH,

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Terri <andersonterri@ ymail.com>

groups (DOT) com

Sent: Sun, March 7, 2010 9:42:32 AM

Subject: Re: Nizerol

 

We have been on it for about a month. It has gotten a little better~but then we

started Paxil.  He is continuing to be somewhat aggressive.  Dr G increased

his Paxil dosage so we are hoping that may improve it.

I know Dr G really likes Nizerol vs. Difulcan.

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@sbcglobal . net>

groups (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 10:13:59 PM

Subject: Re: Nizerol

 

When did you start Nizoral? The only time I've seen that kind of behavior with

my kids is with yeast die off, which can be just as intense as viral die off.

Robyn

____________ _________ _________ __

From: Terri <andersonterri@ ymail.com>

groups (DOT) com

Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 7:06:37 PM

Subject: Nizerol

All:

I would also love some feedback on experiences with Nizerol~

Did you experience any aggression with this drug? My son seems more agitated and

has been biting his arm sleeve quite a bit~ this was even before we started the

Paxil.

The drug we have seen the most improvement with is Valtrex. We are hoping to

start Immuvior soon.

I have read about some negative responses--but Dr G does not seem to want to

switch.

Thanks- Terri

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