Re: Re: Induced Period vs No Period Post Menopause

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Hi Val,Do you apply it on your face for absorbtion or as a facial cream?Thank you.Nita To: rhythmicliving Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: RE: Re: Induced Period vs No Period Post Menopause

Vagifem is vaginal estradiol. Vaginal estriol is probably safer but is not available in the U.S. except through a compounding pharmacy. I buy it from Masters Marketing and use it on my face. Estriol is is not absorbed except through mucus membranes. Why are you using either progesterone or vaginal estradiol? Remind me, have you had cancer? Val

From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On Behalf Of itsmelindadThank you, Val - I was browsing 4corners looking around and saw estriol, http://www.4cnrs-hormone-replacement.com/ovestin-cream-hrt.html Is one as good as

the other? My oncologiost just Rxd Vagifem and discontinued the progesterone. Now I'm more confused than ever, which doesn't take much these days. I think I will have to self treat, but I have a lot of research to do. Estrogel is bioidentical. Google it. I like

http://www.4cnrs-hormone-replacement.com/estrogel-hrt.htmlbut get mine from Masters Marketing via a prescription. http://www.masters-uk.com/medicines/home.php

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Yes, I have watched her Menopause Power DVD video set. It is terrific and does give you the specifics of doing hormone replacement. It answered a lot of questionsI had before I met with her and a lot since I've had since I started working with her. You also get a notebook that goes along with video and space to write notes of your own. However, you need to work with a good doctor for lab tests, prescriptions and guidance. Her whole focus is to educate and empower women to makeinformed decisions regarding their health. You can purchase the DVDs on-line at menopausepower.com. Right now it says they are available for $97.00 instead of $197.00.I think there is a short video you can watch on-line also. The phone number on the back of the DVD is .

On the back of the DVD cover it says:"In Menopause Power, I teach YOU to take control of YOUR menopause:1) You will learn how improperly managed menopause undermines your health for the rest of your life and why you need to be in charge.2) Next, we get down to the basics... what hormones are and how they work, what metabolism is, the menstrual cycle, etc. And I'll tell you about the innumerable symptoms, conditions and degenerative diseases caused by not treating, or improperly treating, menopause.3) Then, I'll teach you the correct way to safely manage your menopause with Hormone Balancing Therapy (HBTx) using bioidentical hormones, and whytraditional Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) is both wrong and dangerous.Remember, I'm on a mission to change the way menopause is managed and empower women to make informed decisions regarding their health. To do so, I need yourhelp. Please tell your friends and

family about this information and feel free to pass this DVD along to someone else (like your doctor) if you think it will help.To health and happiness, Schwarzbein, MD"When I called her in May, 2011, she had just decided to take new patients again. I only had to see her in person the first time. Everything else has been doneover the telephone. She arranges lab tests, etc., evaluates and prescribes all over the phone and on-line. She is so easy to talk to and cares so much.She has a medical assistant e-mail line for questions and updates which she is quick to respond to. If you can't manage to see her once a year, then maybe she would be able to recommend someone near you or advise you how to proceed.It is worth a try. Along with the hormone replacement, she identified adrenal failure so I am taking a very small amount of hydrocortisone from a compounding pharmacy until my own adrenals start

working properly. She has taught me how to eat correctly and exercise correctly as I heal. She also evaluates and recommends vitamins and supplements to take. All of this is monitored regularly. (Before I saw her my W.P. doctor wanted to add thyroid medicine, HGH, testosterone, moreprogesterone, and various other stuff to my protocol.. I am so glad I didn't do it. I have enough recovery to do as it is. And he never even addressed the adrenal failure). Dr. Schwarzbein has given me a new appreciation for the profession of "physician". And how one can actually help you instead of just taking your money and leaving youmore confused or hurt than before.I hope this helps. If there is any other way I can help please let me know. My phone number is if you would like to call me.Blessings,ShereeTo: rhythmicliving Sent: Mon, January 16, 2012 3:37:03 PMSubject: Re: Induced Period vs No Period Post Menopause

Hi,

You are very lucky to have Dr. Schwarzbein on your side. I read all her books and listened to the Introduction on Menopause Power. I would love to buy the DVD but I do not know if I could get the specifics, the nuts and bolts of doing hormon restoration. Unfortunatelly I am too far to have an appointment with Dr. Schwarzbein. If you had seen the Menopause Power video, what is your honest opinion. Thanks.

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> Janet,

> I am now seeing Dr. Schwarzbein in Santa Barbara. She has helped me get

> completely off the Wiley Protocol and is helping me get my body healthy and

> balanced.

> I am using a compounded vaginal P suppository, 5mg., in a olive oil base 2x a

> day from day 18-28. I am also cycling (3) Vivelle-Dot patches 2x a week and

> taking a .125 compounded estradiol troche 2x a day. Since the Wiley Protocol is

> so progesterone dominant I have a lot of progesterone stored in the fat tissues

> in my inner thighs. This

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> seems to be expelled "whenever" and can block the estradiol. This process is

> slow, scary, and frustrating, but we are making progress. I thank God for her

> everyday! To answer

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> your questions it seems progesterone creams get stored in fat tissues and can

> stay there until they decide to dislodge. Therefore, you can't regulate your

> progesterone use

> effectively and by the time you test the level, it could be totally different in

> your body by the time you get the results. It seems the vaginal P suppository

> doesn't get stored

> in your body and doesn't pass through your organs. I am still taking a very low

> dose because of P intolerance and the extra P that is being released "whenever"

> that is blocking

> my estradiol. I have just had a pap smear, yearly physical, mammograms and

> breast ultrasound and everything was good. The next step is to get another

> uterine ultrasound

> to see if my lining thickness is decreasing. I still don't feel great, but I

> feel like I am getting better and I feel safe and very taken cared of by my new

> doctor.

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> P blocks estrogen. Therefore, you have to have enough estradiol to build a

> lining and only enough P to slough off the lining to have a menstrual period,

> but not enough

> to starve your body of the estrogen it needs while taking it. It's a fine

> balance. Dr. Schwarzbein teaches that you only replace what you have lost. You

> can get valuable

> information by visiting her website or phoning her office. She has a series of

> DVDs that explain all her teaching on hormone replacement. It's brilliant and

> worth

>

> investigating. She also has written 3 books that are also brilliant. I wish I

> had known her when I first needed something. If you haven't been on the WP

> protocol you are

> blessed. Getting balanced will probably be a lot easier and safer.

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> If you want to call me, my phone number is .

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> Hope this helps.

>

> Blessings, Sheree Michels

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> To: rhythmicliving

> Sent: Thu, January 5, 2012 3:59:42 PM

> Subject: RE: Re: Induced Period vs No Period Post Menopause

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> Val,

> I've not thought of vaginal P as an alternative. Why would that be different?

> If P cream brings back my hot flashes then would vaginal P not do the same

> thing?

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> I see a doctor who diagnoses through taking your pulse. While he is taking the

> pulse he places substances near your ear and sees what the pulse reaction is.

> It is similar to muscle testing.

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> I brought my P cream there yesterday along with some other things and the P

> cream came up as problematic....just another confirmation.

> janet

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> To: rhythmicliving

> From: val@...

> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:34:30 -0700

> Subject: RE: Re: Induced Period vs No Period Post Menopause

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> Janet, progesterone cream fails to protect the uterus in 32% of users. Why not

> vaginal P? I think progesterone cream is one of the great assaults foisted on

> women.

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> Val

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> From:rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On

> Behalf Of Janet A

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> Val,

> I use the 1 pump of estrogel every day and strive to tolerate a 10 day course

> each month of the wiley compounded P that I'd ordered ions ago but never went on

> the protocol. I use just one line, 20mg.

> Janet

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> To: rhythmicliving

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> Janet, do you use estradiol throughout 12 days of Prometrium? I do.

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> Val

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> From:rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On

> Behalf Of Janet A

> Gael,

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> Do you build up a lining just using the estrogen? I have progesterone problems

> too and can't tolerate it. I've been taking E for about 5 years on/off, mostly

> on. I have to take estrog en (just 1 pump of estrogel daily) or I am up all

> night flashing. I try to take P for 10 days or so but generally stop short of

> that since the P brings back the hot flashes at night.

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> I've built up a lining when I wasn't even taking E and have built up one while

> taking it without P. Now I have yet another 9mm lining that my gyn is very

> unhappy about and this was built up while suffering through using the P for 10

> days or so.

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> Janet

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> To: rhythmicliving@yahoogr oups.com

> I'm on the fence about it because of the terrible effect P has on me. My

> current bout of vertigo began two weeks ago when I applied the tiniest of doses

> of progesterone transdermally for only five days. The day I stopped, the

> vertigo began and has not abated. It's not very severe but it reminds me of the

> last time I used P before this, when the vertigo was so severe I could not get

> out of bed for days. I never want to go through that again. I have no idea why

> externally supplied P affects me in this way. I was never on Wiley and never

> OD'd on it so far as I know. I only did the five day trial recently because my

> P came back at .15 on a blood test for hormone levels.

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> Also, after menopause our bodies do not naturally cycle, other than possibly in

> ways we don't understand and wouldn't know what to supplement for. This also

> gives me pause. I would not be using estrogen if it were not for the fact that

> I get vertigo and terrible hot flashes when I try to go off it. I don't seem to

> be able to do without it at this point. I have been on it for ten years, and

> have an ovarian cyst, and of course this all worries me greatly.

>

> Gael

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> In a message dated 1/2/2012 4:45:43 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> terri4320@... writes:

> Everyone should "cycle" their hormones..even without a uterus. All sex hormones

> should be replaced in a cycle..JMHO.

> >Terri

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