Guest guest Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 I have become quite ill all from being on the WP!!! I now have adrenal fatigue and hypothryoidism with high reverse T3 which is causing anxiety, shaking, jitters, blood pressure issues, high and very low, palpitations all day with a pounding heart, insomnia, depression, losing my hair, low temps, and the list goes on and on...too many to list. I have been to numerous doctors who because of their Western medical school training have sent me to shrinks, therapist, put me on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications to no avail. I have spent thousands out of pocket for saliva tests, lab tests, co-pays and gas to the numerous doctors who are far from where I live. I am non functionable at this point and am currently seeing an osteopath who I hope will get to the bottom of this. this if curable will take much more money (which I don't have) and a lot of time and patience to treat and maybe cure. I am in crisis and my body is breaking down. I can hardly sit here and type this message as I have no patience for anything as I am in such agony 24/7 Therefore, let it be known to the group that I am prepared to sue the Wiley Protocol and all those affiliated with them. it was they who advised me to rub incredibly high and excessive doses of sex hormones that made my body react violently. anytime I would complain of how badly I felt on it, Caren would tell me to increase the lines and keep on going....Little did I know that this protocol would send my body into shock and turn my entire endocrine system against me. They cannot be allowed to poison us!!!! I feel like I am dying inside and out. I hope I can undo the damage the WP did to me. I hope so. I can barely take a shower, take care of myself and feel like crap. I have hundreds of terrible symptoms that no one should have to endure daily. I can't even stand without feeling I am going to faint. What the WP does to our bodies long term is unknown but I know this for sure....they are not going to get away with this!!!! Is anyone with me? P.S. every women's bodies are different and not every woman needs such excessive amounts of hormones, the same dosage for everyone is ludicrous!!! I dread the night for lack of sleep and I dread going to sleep, only to wake up to another day of misery!!! Thanks for listening.....would appreciate anyone chiming in. Nanci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2011 Report Share Posted June 11, 2011 Hi Nanci I just wnat to say that I hear your pain. I too became very sick on WP. Migraines everyday, and when I say migraines I mean abdominal ones where I vomit to the point of dehydration ending up in hospital etc. There were all sorts of other lovely things that happened to me as well. Im also beig treated for Adrenal Fatigue and RT3 DOminance. Im 33 years old and wish I had never heard of WP. Im in NZ and we dont really sue people here. But we do have a regulatory body called the Health and Disabilities Comission that we can take complaints to. Ive made one complaint there and the process was so exhausting Im cutting my losses with Wp and not bothering to complain this time. Im in a different position where my doctor was also doing WP, having bad symptoms herself, and only became aware of the problems until I printed out info from this site and took it to her (as well as an ear-marked copy of Dr Vliet's book " It's my Ovaries, Stupid " ). Im off WP now and feeling better for it. Now Im just figuring out what I should do insted. Fun fun. I dont know what it is like to sue someone, but I imagine it is a lengthy process that consumes a lot of energy/ time/ money. Things that you might like to invest in getting your health back on track. Anyways, I thought I'd just message you to say you are not alone (even though it is a most isolating situation to be in). We are all on a journey similar to you (or have been on it). Take care and be strong Jo > > > > I have become quite ill all from being on the WP!!! > > I now have adrenal fatigue and hypothryoidism with high reverse T3 which is causing anxiety, shaking, jitters, blood pressure issues, high and very low, palpitations all day with a pounding heart, insomnia, depression, losing my hair, low temps, and the list goes on and on...too many to list. > > I have been to numerous doctors who because of their Western medical school training have sent me to shrinks, therapist, put me on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications to no avail. I have spent thousands out of pocket for saliva tests, lab tests, co-pays and gas to the numerous doctors who are far from where I live. > > I am non functionable at this point and am currently seeing an osteopath who I hope will get to the bottom of this. this if curable will take much more money (which I don't have) and a lot of time and patience to treat and maybe cure. I am in crisis and my body is breaking down. I can hardly sit here and type this message as I have no patience for anything as I am in such agony 24/7 > > Therefore, let it be known to the group that I am prepared to sue the Wiley Protocol and all those affiliated with them. it was they who advised me to rub incredibly high and excessive doses of sex hormones that made my body react violently. anytime I would complain of how badly I felt on it, Caren would tell me to increase the lines and keep on going....Little did I know that this protocol would send my body into shock and turn my entire endocrine system against me. > > They cannot be allowed to poison us!!!! > > I feel like I am dying inside and out. I hope I can undo the damage the WP did to me. I hope so. I can barely take a shower, take care of myself and feel like crap. I have hundreds of terrible symptoms that no one should have to endure daily. I can't even stand without feeling I am going to faint. What the WP does to our bodies long term is unknown but I know this for sure....they are not going to get away with this!!!! > Is anyone with me? > > P.S. every women's bodies are different and not every woman needs such excessive amounts of hormones, the same dosage for everyone is ludicrous!!! > > I dread the night for lack of sleep and I dread going to sleep, only to wake up to another day of misery!!! > > Thanks for listening.....would appreciate anyone chiming in. > > Nanci > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Jo, Hi. Sheree Michels here. I was going back over the e-mails and now that I am detoxing from the WP protocol I was wondering if you and your doctor are both completely off WP. If so, how did you get off? How long were you on WP and how long did it take to get off? Did you have a lot of symptoms going off and do you have any now? Anything you can share would be appreciated. Blessings, Sheree To: rhythmicliving Sent: Sat, June 11, 2011 9:06:03 PMSubject: Re: I want to sue!!!!! Hi NanciI just wnat to say that I hear your pain. I too became very sick on WP. Migraines everyday, and when I say migraines I mean abdominal ones where I vomit to the point of dehydration ending up in hospital etc. There were all sorts of other lovely things that happened to me as well. Im also beig treated for Adrenal Fatigue and RT3 DOminance. Im 33 years old and wish I had never heard of WP.Im in NZ and we dont really sue people here. But we do have a regulatory body called the Health and Disabilities Comission that we can take complaints to. Ive made one complaint there and the process was so exhausting Im cutting my losses with Wp and not bothering to complain this time.Im in a different position where my doctor was also doing WP, having bad symptoms herself, and only became aware of the problems until I printed out info from this site and took it to her (as well as an ear-marked copy of Dr Vliet's book "It's my Ovaries, Stupid"). Im off WP now and feeling better for it. Now Im just figuring out what I should do insted. Fun fun.I dont know what it is like to sue someone, but I imagine it is a lengthy process that consumes a lot of energy/ time/ money. Things that you might like to invest in getting your health back on track.Anyways, I thought I'd just message you to say you are not alone (even though it is a most isolating situation to be in). We are all on a journey similar to you (or have been on it).Take care and be strongJo>> > > I have become quite ill all from being on the WP!!!> > I now have adrenal fatigue and hypothryoidism with high reverse T3 which is causing anxiety, shaking, jitters, blood pressure issues, high and very low, palpitations all day with a pounding heart, insomnia, depression, losing my hair, low temps, and the list goes on and on...too many to list.> > I have been to numerous doctors who because of their Western medical school training have sent me to shrinks, therapist, put me on anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medications to no avail. I have spent thousands out of pocket for saliva tests, lab tests, co-pays and gas to the numerous doctors who are far from where I live.> > I am non functionable at this point and am currently seeing an osteopath who I hope will get to the bottom of this. this if curable will take much more money (which I don't have) and a lot of time and patience to treat and maybe cure. I am in crisis and my body is breaking down. I can hardly sit here and type this message as I have no patience for anything as I am in such agony 24/7> > Therefore, let it be known to the group that I am prepared to sue the Wiley Protocol and all those affiliated with them. it was they who advised me to rub incredibly high and excessive doses of sex hormones that made my body react violently. anytime I would complain of how badly I felt on it, Caren would tell me to increase the lines and keep on going....Little did I know that this protocol would send my body into shock and turn my entire endocrine system against me.> > They cannot be allowed to poison us!!!! > > I feel like I am dying inside and out. I hope I can undo the damage the WP did to me. I hope so. I can barely take a shower, take care of myself and feel like crap. I have hundreds of terrible symptoms that no one should have to endure daily. I can't even stand without feeling I am going to faint. What the WP does to our bodies long term is unknown but I know this for sure....they are not going to get away with this!!!!> Is anyone with me? > > P.S. every women's bodies are different and not every woman needs such excessive amounts of hormones, the same dosage for everyone is ludicrous!!!> > I dread the night for lack of sleep and I dread going to sleep, only to wake up to another day of misery!!!> > Thanks for listening.....would appreciate anyone chiming in.> > Nanci> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Hi Sheree I stopped taking WP cold turkey on day four. Im not sure if my experience is going to be the same as others because I had already been taking on 40mg-20mg of Progesterone for the last couple of cycles. So far I feel better off WP, than I ever did on it. But I was still cycling before i went on it, so that might also make a difference. I actually ovulated on day 21, so I am amazing at my body's capacity to cope. Ive felt worse since I ovulated though (probably because there is now some progesterone in my system). Um, things that i have noticed since comig off WP - The incessant itching has stopped - Im not in any pain " down - below " and Im not so dry - Ive only had one miagraine (as opsed to having them every day) - My body is very achy and I feel older - Im constipated - Ive got more acne (so probably need to reduce the DHEA until I start the climera patch Ive been prescribed) - Fluttery heart is back - Broken sleep - More fatigue - Hot flashes and sweating/ severe heat intolerance has stopped (Thank goodness!!!!!) Basically Ive gone back to how I felt before I started.But maybe not as bad because Ive treated the RT3 dominance and Im taking Pregnenelone as well now. I have to have one more week off taking any hormones because my doctor want s to see what my body can do on it's own. Im not sure if my WP doctor is going to stop cold turkey, as I havnt seen her since I left. I have left her my copy of Dr Vliet's book and Laurel's interview of Dr Formbly. I have since seen a gynecologist (just moved to NZ from America, so hopefully a bit more up to date)and she believes WP is at a dose that completely supressed what estrogen my body was making (even if it was just a little). She has prescribed me 0.025mg climera patch which I am looking forward to taking. Her belief is that it will top up what my body is already doing and I probably wont even need progesterone if Im ovulating (which it looks like I am. Also, in NZ the paztch is only going to cost me 43 for six months supply! As opposed to the $200 I was spending on WP!! Anyways, hope tha thelps:) Jo > > > > > > > > I have become quite ill all from being on the WP!!! > > > > I now have adrenal fatigue and hypothryoidism with high reverse T3 which is > >causing anxiety, shaking, jitters, blood pressure issues, high and very low, > >palpitations all day with a pounding heart, insomnia, depression, losing my > >hair, low temps, and the list goes on and on...too many to list. > > > > I have been to numerous doctors who because of their Western medical school > >training have sent me to shrinks, therapist, put me on anti-depressants and > >anti-anxiety medications to no avail. I have spent thousands out of pocket for > >saliva tests, lab tests, co-pays and gas to the numerous doctors who are far > >from where I live. > > > > I am non functionable at this point and am currently seeing an osteopath who I > >hope will get to the bottom of this. this if curable will take much more money > >(which I don't have) and a lot of time and patience to treat and maybe cure. I > >am in crisis and my body is breaking down. I can hardly sit here and type this > >message as I have no patience for anything as I am in such agony 24/7 > > > > Therefore, let it be known to the group that I am prepared to sue the Wiley > >Protocol and all those affiliated with them. it was they who advised me to rub > >incredibly high and excessive doses of sex hormones that made my body react > >violently. anytime I would complain of how badly I felt on it, Caren would tell > >me to increase the lines and keep on going....Little did I know that this > >protocol would send my body into shock and turn my entire endocrine system > >against me. > > > > They cannot be allowed to poison us!!!! > > > > I feel like I am dying inside and out. I hope I can undo the damage the WP did > >to me. I hope so. I can barely take a shower, take care of myself and feel like > >crap. I have hundreds of terrible symptoms that no one should have to endure > >daily. I can't even stand without feeling I am going to faint. What the WP does > >to our bodies long term is unknown but I know this for sure....they are not > >going to get away with this!!!! > > Is anyone with me? > > > > P.S. every women's bodies are different and not every woman needs such > >excessive amounts of hormones, the same dosage for everyone is ludicrous!!! > > > > I dread the night for lack of sleep and I dread going to sleep, only to wake up > >to another day of misery!!! > > > > Thanks for listening.....would appreciate anyone chiming in. > > > > Nanci > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2011 Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Jo wrote: > I have since seen a gynecologist (just moved to NZ from America, so hopefully a bit more up to date)and she believes WP is at a dose that completely supressed what estrogen my body was making (even if it was just a little). Good sign, I believe, that she thinks the WP suppressed the endogenous E. Laurel > Hi Sheree > > I stopped taking WP cold turkey on day four. Im not sure if my experience is going to be the same as others because I had already been taking on 40mg-20mg of Progesterone for the last couple of cycles. > > So far I feel better off WP, than I ever did on it. But I was still cycling before i went on it, so that might also make a difference. I actually ovulated on day 21, so I am amazing at my body's capacity to cope. Ive felt worse since I ovulated though (probably because there is now some progesterone in my system). > > Um, things that i have noticed since comig off WP > - The incessant itching has stopped > - Im not in any pain " down - below " and Im not so dry > - Ive only had one miagraine (as opsed to having them every day) > - My body is very achy and I feel older > - Im constipated > - Ive got more acne (so probably need to reduce the DHEA until I start the climera patch Ive been prescribed) > - Fluttery heart is back > - Broken sleep > - More fatigue > - Hot flashes and sweating/ severe heat intolerance has stopped (Thank goodness!!!!!) > > Basically Ive gone back to how I felt before I started.But maybe not as bad because Ive treated the RT3 dominance and Im taking Pregnenelone as well now. > > I have to have one more week off taking any hormones because my doctor want s to see what my body can do on it's own. > > Im not sure if my WP doctor is going to stop cold turkey, as I havnt seen her since I left. I have left her my copy of Dr Vliet's book and Laurel's interview of Dr Formbly. > > I have since seen a gynecologist (just moved to NZ from America, so hopefully a bit more up to date)and she believes WP is at a dose that completely supressed what estrogen my body was making (even if it was just a little). She has prescribed me 0.025mg climera patch which I am looking forward to taking. Her belief is that it will top up what my body is already doing and I probably wont even need progesterone if Im ovulating (which it looks like I am. Also, in NZ the paztch is only going to cost me 43 for six months supply! As opposed to the $200 I was spending on WP!! > > Anyways, hope tha thelps:) > > Jo > > >>> >>> >>> >>> I have become quite ill all from being on the WP!!! >>> >>> I now have adrenal fatigue and hypothryoidism with high reverse T3 which is >>> causing anxiety, shaking, jitters, blood pressure issues, high and very low, >>> palpitations all day with a pounding heart, insomnia, depression, losing my >>> hair, low temps, and the list goes on and on...too many to list. >>> >>> I have been to numerous doctors who because of their Western medical school >>> training have sent me to shrinks, therapist, put me on anti-depressants and >>> anti-anxiety medications to no avail. I have spent thousands out of pocket for >>> saliva tests, lab tests, co-pays and gas to the numerous doctors who are far >>> from where I live. >>> >>> I am non functionable at this point and am currently seeing an osteopath who I >>> hope will get to the bottom of this. this if curable will take much more money >>> (which I don't have) and a lot of time and patience to treat and maybe cure. I >>> am in crisis and my body is breaking down. I can hardly sit here and type this >>> message as I have no patience for anything as I am in such agony 24/7 >>> >>> Therefore, let it be known to the group that I am prepared to sue the Wiley >>> Protocol and all those affiliated with them. it was they who advised me to rub >>> incredibly high and excessive doses of sex hormones that made my body react >>> violently. anytime I would complain of how badly I felt on it, Caren would tell >>> me to increase the lines and keep on going....Little did I know that this >>> protocol would send my body into shock and turn my entire endocrine system >>> against me. >>> >>> They cannot be allowed to poison us!!!! >>> >>> I feel like I am dying inside and out. I hope I can undo the damage the WP did >>> to me. I hope so. I can barely take a shower, take care of myself and feel like >>> crap. I have hundreds of terrible symptoms that no one should have to endure >>> daily. I can't even stand without feeling I am going to faint. What the WP does >>> to our bodies long term is unknown but I know this for sure....they are not >>> going to get away with this!!!! >>> Is anyone with me? >>> >>> P.S. every women's bodies are different and not every woman needs such >>> excessive amounts of hormones, the same dosage for everyone is ludicrous!!! >>> >>> I dread the night for lack of sleep and I dread going to sleep, only to wake up >>> to another day of misery!!! >>> >>> Thanks for listening.....would appreciate anyone chiming in. >>> >>> Nanci >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > click here for our webpage http://rhythmicliving.com/ > > **The group conversation is informational in nature and is not intended as medical advice.** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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