Guest guest Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 I would stop and let it run its course. Then resume. What cream are you using? Dr. Gillespie says that unless the cream is specially formulated, estradiol is not well absorbed through a cream base. I just start progesterone on the 1st of each month. When the shed starts, I stop progesterone, usually about the 8th day. Val -----Original Message----- From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] On Behalf Of sabinavonwrede Dear All: I have been reading the messages for a while but this will be my first post. Hope to receive some feedback from you'all. Have some menopausal hormone issues (adrenal and thyroid) and recently added iodine to my line up. This messed with my estrogen levels, i.e. brought back hotflashes which then lead me to apply additional estrogen cream. As I had not cycled in a year and would like to again, I made an attempt to jumpstart that and began with an imaginary cycle on the first day of the full moon with only estrogen, then adding progesterone from day 15 - 28. I started a bleed on the evening of day 23 of my cycle. My question is, what should I do now? Stop the progesterone and start counting a new cycle from the beginning? How would you handle this? Any feedback you would have for me is appreciated. Best, Sabina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Val: Thanks so much for your reply. I have been using a compound biest cream for years and have been happy with it. My main question was around the cycle. I can probably answer my own question. When a shed starts I count that as day 1 of my cycle. I stop Progesterone and start again on day 15. Estrogen is ongoing. I was just a bit surprised, glad, concerned that I had a bleed again after a year…. Thanks again. Best, Sabina > > I would stop and let it run its course. Then resume. What cream are you > using? Dr. Gillespie says that unless the cream is specially formulated, > estradiol is not well absorbed through a cream base. I just start > progesterone on the 1st of each month. When the shed starts, I stop > progesterone, usually about the 8th day. > > Val > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] > On Behalf Of sabinavonwrede > > Dear All: > > I have been reading the messages for a while but this will be my first post. > Hope to receive some feedback from you'all. > > Have some menopausal hormone issues (adrenal and thyroid) and recently added > iodine to my line up. This messed with my estrogen levels, i.e. brought back > hotflashes which then lead me to apply additional estrogen cream. > > As I had not cycled in a year and would like to again, I made an attempt to > jumpstart that and began with an imaginary cycle on the first day of the > full moon with only estrogen, then adding progesterone from day 15 - 28. > > I started a bleed on the evening of day 23 of my cycle. My question is, what > should I do now? Stop the progesterone and start counting a new cycle from > the beginning? How would you handle this? > > Any feedback you would have for me is appreciated. Best, Sabina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 ,You never stop taking the estrogen (estradiol only). You only add the progesterone from Day 12 or 15 until Day 28. The day after you stop taking progesterone (Day 28) is now your new Day 1. If you end up not having a bleed it is probably because you don't have enough estrogen on board. My doctor Dr. Schwarzbein is not in favor of creams only the patch. She says it's the only delivery system that is both bioidentical and bioequivalent. She has a booklet out called, Menopause Power, Take Charge Guide, that explains everything you need to work effectively and confidently with your doctor. You can order this at www.menopausepower.com. She just posted her new menopause minutes on-line. I'm going to try and forward these to the group so anyone can hear them and sign-up if they want to. If it doesn't come through let me know and I'll send them to you directly. Hope this helps.Blessings, ShereeTo: rhythmicliving Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 12:12:56 PMSubject: Cycling question Dear All: I have been reading the messages for a while but this will be my first post. Hope to receive some feedback from you'all. Have some menopausal hormone issues (adrenal and thyroid) and recently added iodine to my line up. This messed with my estrogen levels, i.e. brought back hotflashes which then lead me to apply additional estrogen cream. As I had not cycled in a year and would like to again, I made an attempt to jumpstart that and began with an imaginary cycle on the first day of the full moon with only estrogen, then adding progesterone from day 15 - 28. I started a bleed on the evening of day 23 of my cycle. My question is, what should I do now? Stop the progesterone and start counting a new cycle from the beginning? How would you handle this? Any feedback you would have for me is appreciated. Best, Sabina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Sheree: Thank you for your answer. That was my initial question. I experienced a bleed on day 23, not after stopping the progesterone on day 28. Like I said, I think I should have just counted that as day 1 again. It was just a short cycle. I am taking estrogen continuously and recently requested straight estradiol from my doc, but she said she had never heard of people taking straight estradiol, but we compromised and I am on 50/50 estradiol/estriol. I understand Estrogel is straight estradiol and bio-identical? Maybe she can switch me to that. I’ll look into the patch options. I am receiving Dr. Schwarzbein’s menopause minutes. I think you sent me the link. Thank you again. Best, Sabina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Sheree: Thank you for your valuable feedback. However, in regards to my original question, regarding my cycle I don’t think I expressed myself very clearly, so I will try again. I have been taking estrogen continuously, but without having a period for the past year. I have also been cycling Progesterone with two weeks on and two weeks off. I recently picked a new moon date as day 1 of my cycle, took my estrogen and then added Progesterone on day 15. (I had also increased my estrogen during this cycle). On day 23, while still in the middle of the Progesterone phase I started a bleed. What should I have done? Continued taking Progesterone till the end of the Progesterone phase?Stop the Progesterone and continue with just Estrogen for the next two weeks? That was really my main question. Before stopping bleeding about a year ago, my cycles would vary but usually be between 28 and 33 days, but there was also the occasional 23 day cycle. Thank you for sharing Dr. Schwarzbein’s and your info with me/us. I also saw the new Menopause minutes come in today. Best, Sabina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 ......Your doctor 'Never Heard Of' taking straight estradiol???? Good Lord.... *reels away dizzily holding head* ~ ruby ~ > > > > From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ] > On Behalf Of Sabina von Wrede > > > > I am taking estrogen continuously and recently requested straight estradiol > from my doc, but she said she had never heard of people taking straight > estradiol, but we compromised and I am on 50/50 estradiol/estriol. I > understand Estrogel is straight estradiol and bio-identical? Maybe she can > switch me to that. I'll look into the patch options. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Sheree: Great! Thank you so much for sharing that bit of information with me. Much appreciated. Now I know what to do. Best, Sabina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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