Re: How much Estrogen do you need to restore libido?

[Guest guest]

Dr. Larrian Gillespie says estradiol cream is not well delivered through a

cream base; that an alcohol base is a better delivery system. Progesterone

cream fails to protect the uterus in 32% of women. Gillespie is not a big

believer in testosterone for woman.

Val

-----Original Message-----

From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

On Behalf Of kat943

I'm so gad I found this group! The progesterone in the Wiley protocol does

not work for me. My biggest challenge right now is figuring out how to

restore my libido...my poor husband!

I have been taking E cream for several years and tried other things, like

the Vivelle patch. For awhile, the cream worked fairly well and then then it

seemed to wear off. I decided to try the Wiley protocol, and the increased E

with that seemed to help. I DO NOT like the progesterone.It is nice however,

to have an enhanced bustline!

I also take testosterone, but I find dosing that either too high or too low

to kill my libido.

I would love to hear from the group what has helped with your sex drive.

[Guest guest]

Val, I'm having the same issue. I can't seem to find the magic formula for

restoring libido. It doesn't seem like the testosterone is making it better. The

only time it seemed good was on the way out of a tempest of progesterone. The

libido happiness lasted for three days and I haven't found that magic again

since. Maybe I need more progesterone, but I never want to have the unpleasant

experience of too much P again and it's hard to find the line. I would love to

hear others' insights on the libido issue.

>

> Dr. Larrian Gillespie says estradiol cream is not well delivered through a

> cream base; that an alcohol base is a better delivery system. Progesterone

> cream fails to protect the uterus in 32% of women. Gillespie is not a big

> believer in testosterone for woman.

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

> On Behalf Of kat943

>

> I'm so gad I found this group! The progesterone in the Wiley protocol does

> not work for me. My biggest challenge right now is figuring out how to

> restore my libido...my poor husband!

>

> I have been taking E cream for several years and tried other things, like

> the Vivelle patch. For awhile, the cream worked fairly well and then then it

> seemed to wear off. I decided to try the Wiley protocol, and the increased E

> with that seemed to help. I DO NOT like the progesterone.It is nice however,

> to have an enhanced bustline!

>

> I also take testosterone, but I find dosing that either too high or too low

> to kill my libido.

>

> I would love to hear from the group what has helped with your sex drive.

>

[Guest guest]

I would like to hear from anyone that has had any degree of success regarding

libido with their bio-identical HRT. I was faring better when I used a different

compounding pharmacy for my E cream and took a compounded P pill instead of the

cream. When I have used just a tiny amount of the testosterone cream-in the

past- it has helped. For some reason things just aren't going as well now. I use

very little of the P cream that I have now and I don't use it for the full 14

days. I'm kind of at a loss at what direction to go now.

If I have P toxicity, how long does that take to go away?

Thanks for any and all advice :-)

> Val, I'm having the same issue. I can't seem to find the magic formula for

restoring libido. It doesn't seem like the testosterone is making it better. The

only time it seemed good was on the way out of a tempest of progesterone. The

libido happiness lasted for three days and I haven't found that magic again

since. Maybe I need more progesterone, but I never want to have the unpleasant

experience of too much P again and it's hard to find the line. I would love to

hear others' insights on the libido issue.

>

[Guest guest]

Hmmm, this explains some suspicions I've had. I've wondered if I was actually

absorbing the E very well. About four years ago I seemed to absorbing the E

cream reasonably well, and then then I changed compounding pharmacies and the

cream felt different, less oily. I needed so much more of it for the same

effect!

Where do you get the alcohol based E? I really liked the delivery system in the

Nuvaring birth control device. I don't the the typeo of P or level of it they

use, or else I would use that as HRT.

As for the T, maybe many women don't need it, but I have tested really low, and

when I take tiny amounts, it does help a lot of things. I think the cream

delivery system is not the best for the T and it's easy to get too much. But I

definitely benefit from having at least some. Without any, I don't ever need to

shave my legs and my eyebrows thin out and libido is zilch. With it at the right

proportion, these things come back. I can't imagine telling women with almost no

T that they wouldn't benefit from it. Is Dr.Gillespie's stance that no women

should supplementation with T regardless of their levels?

Thanks

>

> Dr. Larrian Gillespie says estradiol cream is not well delivered through a

> cream base; that an alcohol base is a better delivery system. Progesterone

> cream fails to protect the uterus in 32% of women. Gillespie is not a big

> believer in testosterone for woman.

>

> Val

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

> On Behalf Of kat943

>

> I'm so gad I found this group! The progesterone in the Wiley protocol does

> not work for me. My biggest challenge right now is figuring out how to

> restore my libido...my poor husband!

>

> I have been taking E cream for several years and tried other things, like

> the Vivelle patch. For awhile, the cream worked fairly well and then then it

> seemed to wear off. I decided to try the Wiley protocol, and the increased E

> with that seemed to help. I DO NOT like the progesterone.It is nice however,

> to have an enhanced bustline!

>

> I also take testosterone, but I find dosing that either too high or too low

> to kill my libido.

>

> I would love to hear from the group what has helped with your sex drive.

>

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Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!----- Reply message -----Date: Sun, Jan 15, 2012 1:19 amSubject: How much Estrogen do you need to restore libido?To: <rhythmicliving >

Dr. Larrian Gillespie says estradiol cream is not well delivered through a

cream base; that an alcohol base is a better delivery system. Progesterone

cream fails to protect the uterus in 32% of women. Gillespie is not a big

believer in testosterone for woman.

Val

-----Original Message-----

From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

On Behalf Of kat943

I'm so gad I found this group! The progesterone in the Wiley protocol does

not work for me. My biggest challenge right now is figuring out how to

restore my libido...my poor husband!

I have been taking E cream for several years and tried other things, like

the Vivelle patch. For awhile, the cream worked fairly well and then then it

seemed to wear off. I decided to try the Wiley protocol, and the increased E

with that seemed to help. I DO NOT like the progesterone.It is nice however,

to have an enhanced bustline!

I also take testosterone, but I find dosing that either too high or too low

to kill my libido.

I would love to hear from the group what has helped with your sex drive.

[Guest guest]

Am wondering why Dr Gillespie is not an advocate of T for women? We produce

that " naturally " during our reproductive years, correct?

I am one that has been on hormone pellets (E and T) for almost two years.

(After struggling first with P over dose and then unsuccesfully trying many

other forms of BHRT.) Now that my E and T levels stay pretty consistent/higher

.... My libido seems to be, for the most part, corrected. I think it's a

delicate balance. If the T goes too high, there could be issues. When I cycle

my prometrium (vaginally) for my 12 days, it pretty much takes away all libido

....

The testosterone, I believe, has been a very important proponent in giving me my

life back. I have the motivation, once again, to exercise. Not only do I

exercise ... I see results! I used to exercise with zilch results.

Best,

Glo

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>Dr. Larrian Gillespie says estradiol cream is not well delivered through a

>cream base; that an alcohol base is a better delivery system. Progesterone

>cream fails to protect the uterus in 32% of women. Gillespie is not a big

>believer in testosterone for woman.

>

>Val

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: rhythmicliving [mailto:rhythmicliving ]

>On Behalf Of kat943

>

>I'm so gad I found this group! The progesterone in the Wiley protocol does

>not work for me. My biggest challenge right now is figuring out how to

>restore my libido...my poor husband!

>

>I have been taking E cream for several years and tried other things, like

>the Vivelle patch. For awhile, the cream worked fairly well and then then it

>seemed to wear off. I decided to try the Wiley protocol, and the increased E

>with that seemed to help. I DO NOT like the progesterone.It is nice however,

>to have an enhanced bustline!

>

>I also take testosterone, but I find dosing that either too high or too low

>to kill my libido.

>

>I would love to hear from the group what has helped with your sex drive.

>

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