Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hi Liz, So interesting that you mention Farrell! I called a compounding pharmacy a few days ago to get some names of physicians or NP's who prescribe bioidenticals and that was the first name the pharmacist gave me. She said she's very good! Maybe it's a sign? lol...Yeah, if I had unlimited funds then I might continue to go to Uzzi BUT that's not the case and his supplement pushing is annoying. I've never even heard of the pellets. Is that considered homeopathic? Do you take both estrogen and progesterone in pellet form? I'm so glad you finally found a route that works for you and it's a relief to know that I haven't exhausted all of my options. Thank you so much for letting me know this as it helps me to narrow down who I might want to see next. I also got the name of a doctor in Westlake Village who takes insurance so I might try that first but again at least I have some options! Thanks again! Laurie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Val, > > > > No, I haven't had a period for quite a long time. The last two doctors that I > > saw told me that I would 100% get uterine cancer if I didn't take progesterone > > and shed the lining. In fact, I had to get a pelvic/vaginal ultrasound in > > January because it freaked them out. It came back fine. Uzzi was the only one > > not too concerned about it. He said it's mostly the younger doctors who freak > > out about that stuff. > > > > That's an interesting thought about my possibly producing enough progesterone > > on my own but the labs don't tell that story. The numbers are always in the > > negative. > > > > Well, I was on the same estradiol cream through a compounding pharmacy for > > over 2 years. My levels were checked every 3 months and they were either very > > high (300's) or very low (in January my estrogen was a measly 38)despite being > > on the same amount. I thought my estrogen was doing the roller coaster thing. > > Uzzi thinks that the cream (even if dried) was being scooped up by the needle > > sometimes when labs were drawn thus the high levels. So he said that he feels > > my estrogen has just been very low all along. > > > > Then it was the Vivelle Dot for a very brief time (maybe 3 weeks) and I had > > terrible low estrogen symptoms. My doctor at the time wouldn't even consider > > upping the dose. She tried to blame my symptoms on my thyroid medication. > > > > Uzzi put me on this Bi-est that I've been taking since the 3rd week of > > February. It's 3mg (estriol = 2mg, estradiol = 1mg) per 2 clicks and I take > > total of 8 clicks a day. So 12mg a day of estrogen. He keeps telling me that I > > should get those symptoms of high estrogen (very sore breasts)and that's when > > I need to back off a bit but I've yet to have high estrogen symptoms. > > > > So maybe not taking progesterone is okay even with a uterus? Oh, I was also > > taking testosterone because that is always in the negative on labs too but > > Uzzi told me to stop that too. I guess it's just getting all bound up in the > > SHBG? > > > > lol...crazy making. > > > > Is Estrogel OTC? Have you had the best luck with that? <15 is horribly low. > > You must've felt terrible. > > > > Thank you for responding. I really appreciate it. > > > > Laurie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hi Laurie, The pellets are Bio Identical, Estradiol and Testosterone. They are rice sized pellets that are inserted in your butt cheek every 3-4 months (average). Not painful (at least not for me). They then release into your bloodstream as needed. (This is very simplified as there is more to it than that). But I do believe if you don’t want to go the pellet route just yet, she prescribes topicals. Progesterone is not in pellet form. If one must use it, she suggests sublignual and at small doses to be able to control it better. I do use a tiny bit of P now but still playing with that. Good luck! Keep us posted! Liz Hi Liz, So interesting that you mention Farrell! I called a compounding pharmacy a few days ago to get some names of physicians or NP's who prescribe bioidenticals and that was the first name the pharmacist gave me. She said she's very good! Maybe it's a sign? lol...Yeah, if I had unlimited funds then I might continue to go to Uzzi BUT that's not the case and his supplement pushing is annoying. I've never even heard of the pellets. Is that considered homeopathic? Do you take both estrogen and progesterone in pellet form? I'm so glad you finally found a route that works for you and it's a relief to know that I haven't exhausted all of my options. Thank you so much for letting me know this as it helps me to narrow down who I might want to see next. I also got the name of a doctor in Westlake Village who takes insurance so I might try that first but again at least I have some options! Thanks again! Laurie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Val, > > > > No, I haven't had a period for quite a long time. The last two doctors that I > > saw told me that I would 100% get uterine cancer if I didn't take progesterone > > and shed the lining. In fact, I had to get a pelvic/vaginal ultrasound in > > January because it freaked them out. It came back fine. Uzzi was the only one > > not too concerned about it. He said it's mostly the younger doctors who freak > > out about that stuff. > > > > That's an interesting thought about my possibly producing enough progesterone > > on my own but the labs don't tell that story. The numbers are always in the > > negative. > > > > Well, I was on the same estradiol cream through a compounding pharmacy for > > over 2 years. My levels were checked every 3 months and they were either very > > high (300's) or very low (in January my estrogen was a measly 38)despite being > > on the same amount. I thought my estrogen was doing the roller coaster thing. > > Uzzi thinks that the cream (even if dried) was being scooped up by the needle > > sometimes when labs were drawn thus the high levels. So he said that he feels > > my estrogen has just been very low all along. > > > > Then it was the Vivelle Dot for a very brief time (maybe 3 weeks) and I had > > terrible low estrogen symptoms. My doctor at the time wouldn't even consider > > upping the dose. She tried to blame my symptoms on my thyroid medication. > > > > Uzzi put me on this Bi-est that I've been taking since the 3rd week of > > February. It's 3mg (estriol = 2mg, estradiol = 1mg) per 2 clicks and I take > > total of 8 clicks a day. So 12mg a day of estrogen. He keeps telling me that I > > should get those symptoms of high estrogen (very sore breasts)and that's when > > I need to back off a bit but I've yet to have high estrogen symptoms. > > > > So maybe not taking progesterone is okay even with a uterus? Oh, I was also > > taking testosterone because that is always in the negative on labs too but > > Uzzi told me to stop that too. I guess it's just getting all bound up in the > > SHBG? > > > > lol...crazy making. > > > > Is Estrogel OTC? Have you had the best luck with that? <15 is horribly low. > > You must've felt terrible. > > > > Thank you for responding. I really appreciate it. > > > > Laurie > > > http://liz-vernand.artistwebsites.com http://fineartamerica.com/shop/liz-vernand.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 PS Over the past 10 years, I've seen Dr. Uzzi too, and a string of others who were way too expensive. I thought the WP was my finalsolution for over 5 years. Now, I'm back to search for help too. Thanks to everyone for posting! To: rhythmicliving Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:56 AM Subject: Re: Re: First post/Laurie Hi Laurie, The pellets are Bio Identical, Estradiol and Testosterone. They are rice sized pellets that are inserted in your butt cheek every 3-4 months (average). Not painful (at least not for me). They then release into your bloodstream as needed. (This is very simplified as there is more to it than that). But I do believe if you don’t want to go the pellet route just yet, she prescribes topicals. Progesterone is not in pellet form. If one must use it, she suggests sublignual and at small doses to be able to control it better. I do use a tiny bit of P now but still playing with that. Good luck! Keep us posted! Liz Hi Liz, So interesting that you mention Farrell! I called a compounding pharmacy a few days ago to get some names of physicians or NP's who prescribe bioidenticals and that was the first name the pharmacist gave me. She said she's very good! Maybe it's a sign? lol...Yeah, if I had unlimited funds then I might continue to go to Uzzi BUT that's not the case and his supplement pushing is annoying. I've never even heard of the pellets. Is that considered homeopathic? Do you take both estrogen and progesterone in pellet form? I'm so glad you finally found a route that works for you and it's a relief to know that I haven't exhausted all of my options. Thank you so much for letting me know this as it helps me to narrow down who I might want to see next. I also got the name of a doctor in Westlake Village who takes insurance so I might try that first but again at least I have some options! Thanks again! Laurie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Val, > > > > No, I haven't had a period for quite a long time. The last two doctors that I > > saw told me that I would 100% get uterine cancer if I didn't take progesterone > > and shed the lining. In fact, I had to get a pelvic/vaginal ultrasound in > > January because it freaked them out. It came back fine. Uzzi was the only one > > not too concerned about it. He said it's mostly the younger doctors who freak > > out about that stuff. > > > > That's an interesting thought about my possibly producing enough progesterone > > on my own but the labs don't tell that story. The numbers are always in the > > negative. > > > > Well, I was on the same estradiol cream through a compounding pharmacy for > > over 2 years. My levels were checked every 3 months and they were either very > > high (300's) or very low (in January my estrogen was a measly 38)despite being > > on the same amount. I thought my estrogen was doing the roller coaster thing. > > Uzzi thinks that the cream (even if dried) was being scooped up by the needle > > sometimes when labs were drawn thus the high levels. So he said that he feels > > my estrogen has just been very low all along. > > > > Then it was the Vivelle Dot for a very brief time (maybe 3 weeks) and I had > > terrible low estrogen symptoms. My doctor at the time wouldn't even consider > > upping the dose. She tried to blame my symptoms on my thyroid medication. > > > > Uzzi put me on this Bi-est that I've been taking since the 3rd week of > > February. It's 3mg (estriol = 2mg, estradiol = 1mg) per 2 clicks and I take > > total of 8 clicks a day. So 12mg a day of estrogen. He keeps telling me that I > > should get those symptoms of high estrogen (very sore breasts)and that's when > > I need to back off a bit but I've yet to have high estrogen symptoms. > > > > So maybe not taking progesterone is okay even with a uterus? Oh, I was also > > taking testosterone because that is always in the negative on labs too but > > Uzzi told me to stop that too. I guess it's just getting all bound up in the > > SHBG? > > > > lol...crazy making. > > > > Is Estrogel OTC? Have you had the best luck with that? <15 is horribly low. > > You must've felt terrible. > > > > Thank you for responding. I really appreciate it. > > > > Laurie > > > http://liz-vernand.artistwebsites.com http://fineartamerica.com/shop/liz-vernand.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hi Liz,Thank you for your help.Best wishes,Nita To: rhythmicliving Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Re: First post/Laurie Hi Nita, I actually have no idea as I had a hyst and I didn’t ask that question. You might be able to email her or call her office and find out. Liz Hi, Is she of the school of balancing hormones and inducing a period? Thank you. Nita To: rhythmicliving Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:56 AM Subject: Re: Re: First post/Laurie Hi Laurie, The pellets are Bio Identical, Estradiol and Testosterone. They are rice sized pellets that are inserted in your butt cheek every 3-4 months (average). Not painful (at least not for me). They then release into your bloodstream as needed. (This is very simplified as there is more to it than that). But I do believe if you don’t want to go the pellet route just yet, she prescribes topicals. Progesterone is not in pellet form. If one must use it, she suggests sublignual and at small doses to be able to control it better. I do use a tiny bit of P now but still playing with that. Good luck! Keep us posted! Liz Hi Liz, So interesting that you mention Farrell! I called a compounding pharmacy a few days ago to get some names of physicians or NP's who prescribe bioidenticals and that was the first name the pharmacist gave me. She said she's very good! Maybe it's a sign? lol...Yeah, if I had unlimited funds then I might continue to go to Uzzi BUT that's not the case and his supplement pushing is annoying. I've never even heard of the pellets. Is that considered homeopathic? Do you take both estrogen and progesterone in pellet form? I'm so glad you finally found a route that works for you and it's a relief to know that I haven't exhausted all of my options. Thank you so much for letting me know this as it helps me to narrow down who I might want to see next. I also got the name of a doctor in Westlake Village who takes insurance so I might try that first but again at least I have some options! Thanks again! Laurie > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Val, > > > > No, I haven't had a period for quite a long time. The last two doctors that I > > saw told me that I would 100% get uterine cancer if I didn't take progesterone > > and shed the lining. In fact, I had to get a pelvic/vaginal ultrasound in > > January because it freaked them out. It came back fine. Uzzi was the only one > > not too concerned about it. He said it's mostly the younger doctors who freak > > out about that stuff. > > > > That's an interesting thought about my possibly producing enough progesterone > > on my own but the labs don't tell that story. The numbers are always in the > > negative. > > > > Well, I was on the same estradiol cream through a compounding pharmacy for > > over 2 years. My levels were checked every 3 months and they were either very > > high (300's) or very low (in January my estrogen was a measly 38)despite being > > on the same amount. I thought my estrogen was doing the roller coaster thing. > > Uzzi thinks that the cream (even if dried) was being scooped up by the needle > > sometimes when labs were drawn thus the high levels. So he said that he feels > > my estrogen has just been very low all along. > > > > Then it was the Vivelle Dot for a very brief time (maybe 3 weeks) and I had > > terrible low estrogen symptoms. My doctor at the time wouldn't even consider > > upping the dose. She tried to blame my symptoms on my thyroid medication. > > > > Uzzi put me on this Bi-est that I've been taking since the 3rd week of > > February. It's 3mg (estriol = 2mg, estradiol = 1mg) per 2 clicks and I take > > total of 8 clicks a day. So 12mg a day of estrogen. He keeps telling me that I > > should get those symptoms of high estrogen (very sore breasts)and that's when > > I need to back off a bit but I've yet to have high estrogen symptoms. > > > > So maybe not taking progesterone is okay even with a uterus? Oh, I was also > > taking testosterone because that is always in the negative on labs too but > > Uzzi told me to stop that too. I guess it's just getting all bound up in the > > SHBG? > > > > lol...crazy making. > > > > Is Estrogel OTC? Have you had the best luck with that? <15 is horribly low. > > You must've felt terrible. > > > > Thank you for responding. I really appreciate it. > > > > Laurie > > > http://liz-vernand.artistwebsites.com http://fineartamerica.com/shop/liz-vernand.html http://liz-vernand.artistwebsites.com http://fineartamerica.com/shop/liz-vernand.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Wow, Liz...these pellets sound dreamy...lol! I sure wish I would have known about this before I went to see Uzzi...if you can't continue to go see someone like that then why bother to blow through the money in the first place? {big sigh}. I have major life changes happening right now and so I'm trying to be more careful about money. Do you mind me asking how much these pellets run say in comparision to creams etc....? I'm so happy for all of this new information! Thank you!! Laurie > >> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Hi Val, > >>> > > > >>> > > No, I haven't had a period for quite a long time. The last two doctors > >>> that I > >>> > > saw told me that I would 100% get uterine cancer if I didn't take > >>> progesterone > >>> > > and shed the lining. In fact, I had to get a pelvic/vaginal ultrasound > in > >>> > > January because it freaked them out. It came back fine. Uzzi was the > >>> only one > >>> > > not too concerned about it. He said it's mostly the younger doctors who > >>> freak > >>> > > out about that stuff. > >>> > > > >>> > > That's an interesting thought about my possibly producing enough > >>> progesterone > >>> > > on my own but the labs don't tell that story. The numbers are always in > the > >>> > > negative. > >>> > > > >>> > > Well, I was on the same estradiol cream through a compounding pharmacy > for > >>> > > over 2 years. My levels were checked every 3 months and they were either > >>> very > >>> > > high (300's) or very low (in January my estrogen was a measly 38)despite > >>> being > >>> > > on the same amount. I thought my estrogen was doing the roller coaster > >>> thing. > >>> > > Uzzi thinks that the cream (even if dried) was being scooped up by the > >>> needle > >>> > > sometimes when labs were drawn thus the high levels. So he said that he > >>> feels > >>> > > my estrogen has just been very low all along. > >>> > > > >>> > > Then it was the Vivelle Dot for a very brief time (maybe 3 weeks) and I > had > >>> > > terrible low estrogen symptoms. My doctor at the time wouldn't even > >>> consider > >>> > > upping the dose. She tried to blame my symptoms on my thyroid > >>> medication. > >>> > > > >>> > > Uzzi put me on this Bi-est that I've been taking since the 3rd week of > >>> > > February. It's 3mg (estriol = 2mg, estradiol = 1mg) per 2 clicks and I > >>> take > >>> > > total of 8 clicks a day. So 12mg a day of estrogen. He keeps telling me > >>> that I > >>> > > should get those symptoms of high estrogen (very sore breasts)and that's > >>> when > >>> > > I need to back off a bit but I've yet to have high estrogen symptoms. > >>> > > > >>> > > So maybe not taking progesterone is okay even with a uterus? Oh, I was > >>> also > >>> > > taking testosterone because that is always in the negative on labs too > but > >>> > > Uzzi told me to stop that too. I guess it's just getting all bound up in > the > >>> > > SHBG? > >>> > > > >>> > > lol...crazy making. > >>> > > > >>> > > Is Estrogel OTC? Have you had the best luck with that? <15 is horribly > >>> low. > >>> > > You must've felt terrible. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thank you for responding. I really appreciate it. > >>> > > > >>> > > Laurie > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://liz-vernand.artistwebsites.com > http://fineartamerica.com/shop/liz-vernand.html > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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