Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 There are two pieces of data migration the getting your data from your server and the putting it into your new system. Neither is cheap. You need to talk to your new vendor first to see if they do this and how they will charge you. You ask them the format in which they need the data for uptake. For instance eCW will ask you for an excel sheet with very particular data fields. Other vendors just do PDF like files only and do no structured data. Make sure they commit to do the upload as many times as necessary so to have no mistakes in the migration (and there will be mistakes I guarantee) Then you can choose to pull it yourself or have a third party vendor do it for you. They charge depending on number of records. Finally remember to schedule some significant amount of time to check for the quality of the migration (Testing). IF you are not committed to this route consider data abstraction and save the data in a close by corner where you can access it if needed for the legal amount of time (forever in peds it seams) and it may be somewhat cheaper Just some thoughts Izquierdo-Porrera MD PhDExecutive Director & Co-founderCare for Your Health, IncPhone Fax www.care4yourhealth.org " Don't ever let injustice go by unchallenged. " Help us make our community healthy -> http://www.care4yourhealth.org/wanttohelp.php From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Margaret CoughlanSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:53 AMTo: Subject: data migration Hello all,Has anyone used any data migration services that they can recommend? I have my old EMR and data programs housed on a local server that we access through our network. My new EMR is internet based. We lose power often here and the generator frequency output often messes up the back up battery/server and I would love to just get rid of the server. I would need this data uploaded to the new EMR or at the very least, just loaded onto individual computers. THanks for any helpMargaret CoughlanNo virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 A computers UPS tends to be fussy about the power it accepts. Most come preset for maximum sensitivity to power variations. Many have a way to calm them down by selecting a lower level of sensitivity. I found a car battery with an inverter that creates a pure sinusoid makes an inexpensive backup power source that is UPS friendly. Actually the two batteries I use came from our family cars after 3 years of use and still have enough life to keep my server running for over an hour. About converting EMR data from one EMR to another, I don’t have a ready answer but have an idea for what we need in the long term.  No doubt there are hundreds of different EMRs that users have reason to move away from if they could find a way. For individual practices these conversions are daunting undertaking. Most individual conversions are expensive if done well. Most never convert their EMR data and just start over. As a group however, there is savings if enough practices convert. For example a $150K conversion project might become a $5K per practice conversion with 50 or more practices. I could envision hiring an IT consultant to do a 20-50 site conversion with a rebate for future conversion beyond the original 20. A group of practices willing to work together might end up with a profit from demand for future conversions. Successful conversions come with bragging rights that would likely sell future conversions. A website tool that matches EMR users and their conversion objectives would be a first step. IT consultants could then bid on projects and EMR users could opt in when the conversion price per practice met their goal. Think of it as an iterative bidding process where IT consultants adjust their price as the demand for conversions vary. I can imagine the " move to EMR vendor " acting as a verification agent providing a quality of conversion assessment. Conversion would then begin one practice at a time with a quality report from the sites initially converted. Sites volunteering to be converted first could be offered a discount for their part in acting as test sites. Proposals posted by IT consultants would reveal data that could be converted discretely, data that could not be converted and data that would need to be carried over as PDFs, graphics, etc. I can imagine a conversion marketplace having a stimulating effect on the spread of quality EMRs. It's amazing the amount of data conversion and custom programming that gets done around the world. EMR data conversion seems like a natural addition to this marketplace. Most EMR conversions are possible to vary extents with some accommodations for discrete data being converted to supplementary documents. Knowing what to expect ahead of a commitment is essential. This is where competing online proposals would make it interesting. Some programmers are quite cleaver and in this vast market I'm betting the best would show up to serve our needs. Is there already a marketplace like this for EMR conversions? If not, perhaps our professional organizations could spur an initiative to help this happen. Neighbors, MDHuntsville, Alabama Solo using FlexMedical EMR/Billing since 2/2009Attested MU in 2011 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Margaret CoughlanSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:53 AMTo: Subject: data migration Hello all,Has anyone used any data migration services that they can recommend? I have my old EMR and data programs housed on a local server that we access through our network. My new EMR is internet based. We lose power often here and the generator frequency output often messes up the back up battery/server and I would love to just get rid of the server. I would need this data uploaded to the new EMR or at the very least, just loaded onto individual computers. THanks for any helpMargaret Coughlan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 There is a market place for this already! Izquierdo-Porrera MD PhDExecutive Director & Co-founderCare for Your Health, IncPhone Fax www.care4yourhealth.org " Don't ever let injustice go by unchallenged. " Help us make our community healthy -> http://www.care4yourhealth.org/wanttohelp.php From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of theNeighborsSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:18 PMTo: Subject: RE: data migration A computers UPS tends to be fussy about the power it accepts. Most come preset for maximum sensitivity to power variations. Many have a way to calm them down by selecting a lower level of sensitivity. I found a car battery with an inverter that creates a pure sinusoid makes an inexpensive backup power source that is UPS friendly. Actually the two batteries I use came from our family cars after 3 years of use and still have enough life to keep my server running for over an hour. About converting EMR data from one EMR to another, I don’t have a ready answer but have an idea for what we need in the long term. No doubt there are hundreds of different EMRs that users have reason to move away from if they could find a way. For individual practices these conversions are daunting undertaking. Most individual conversions are expensive if done well. Most never convert their EMR data and just start over. As a group however, there is savings if enough practices convert. For example a $150K conversion project might become a $5K per practice conversion with 50 or more practices. I could envision hiring an IT consultant to do a 20-50 site conversion with a rebate for future conversion beyond the original 20. A group of practices willing to work together might end up with a profit from demand for future conversions. Successful conversions come with bragging rights that would likely sell future conversions. A website tool that matches EMR users and their conversion objectives would be a first step. IT consultants could then bid on projects and EMR users could opt in when the conversion price per practice met their goal. Think of it as an iterative bidding process where IT consultants adjust their price as the demand for conversions vary. I can imagine the " move to EMR vendor " acting as a verification agent providing a quality of conversion assessment. Conversion would then begin one practice at a time with a quality report from the sites initially converted. Sites volunteering to be converted first could be offered a discount for their part in acting as test sites. Proposals posted by IT consultants would reveal data that could be converted discretely, data that could not be converted and data that would need to be carried over as PDFs, graphics, etc. I can imagine a conversion marketplace having a stimulating effect on the spread of quality EMRs. It's amazing the amount of data conversion and custom programming that gets done around the world. EMR data conversion seems like a natural addition to this marketplace. Most EMR conversions are possible to vary extents with some accommodations for discrete data being converted to supplementary documents. Knowing what to expect ahead of a commitment is essential. This is where competing online proposals would make it interesting. Some programmers are quite cleaver and in this vast market I'm betting the best would show up to serve our needs. Is there already a marketplace like this for EMR conversions? If not, perhaps our professional organizations could spur an initiative to help this happen. Neighbors, MDHuntsville, Alabama Solo using FlexMedical EMR/Billing since 2/2009Attested MU in 2011 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Margaret CoughlanSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:53 AMTo: Subject: data migration Hello all,Has anyone used any data migration services that they can recommend? I have my old EMR and data programs housed on a local server that we access through our network. My new EMR is internet based. We lose power often here and the generator frequency output often messes up the back up battery/server and I would love to just get rid of the server. I would need this data uploaded to the new EMR or at the very least, just loaded onto individual computers. THanks for any helpMargaret CoughlanNo virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 , I’m interested in learning more about the marketplace for EMR conversions you mentioned.  I get questions about converting to FlexMedical and have not had much to suggest. Neighbors, MDHuntsville, Alabama Solo using FlexMedical EMR/Billing since 2/2009Attested MU in 2011 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dr. Izquierdo-Porrera MD PhDSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:30 PMTo: Subject: RE: data migration There is a market place for this already! Izquierdo-Porrera MD PhDExecutive Director & Co-founderCare for Your Health, IncPhone Fax www.care4yourhealth.org " Don't ever let injustice go by unchallenged. " Help us make our community healthy -> http://www.care4yourhealth.org/wanttohelp.php From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of theNeighborsSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:18 PMTo: Subject: RE: data migration A computers UPS tends to be fussy about the power it accepts. Most come preset for maximum sensitivity to power variations. Many have a way to calm them down by selecting a lower level of sensitivity. I found a car battery with an inverter that creates a pure sinusoid makes an inexpensive backup power source that is UPS friendly. Actually the two batteries I use came from our family cars after 3 years of use and still have enough life to keep my server running for over an hour. About converting EMR data from one EMR to another, I don’t have a ready answer but have an idea for what we need in the long term. No doubt there are hundreds of different EMRs that users have reason to move away from if they could find a way. For individual practices these conversions are daunting undertaking. Most individual conversions are expensive if done well. Most never convert their EMR data and just start over. As a group however, there is savings if enough practices convert. For example a $150K conversion project might become a $5K per practice conversion with 50 or more practices. I could envision hiring an IT consultant to do a 20-50 site conversion with a rebate for future conversion beyond the original 20. A group of practices willing to work together might end up with a profit from demand for future conversions. Successful conversions come with bragging rights that would likely sell future conversions. A website tool that matches EMR users and their conversion objectives would be a first step. IT consultants could then bid on projects and EMR users could opt in when the conversion price per practice met their goal. Think of it as an iterative bidding process where IT consultants adjust their price as the demand for conversions vary. I can imagine the " move to EMR vendor " acting as a verification agent providing a quality of conversion assessment. Conversion would then begin one practice at a time with a quality report from the sites initially converted. Sites volunteering to be converted first could be offered a discount for their part in acting as test sites. Proposals posted by IT consultants would reveal data that could be converted discretely, data that could not be converted and data that would need to be carried over as PDFs, graphics, etc. I can imagine a conversion marketplace having a stimulating effect on the spread of quality EMRs. It's amazing the amount of data conversion and custom programming that gets done around the world. EMR data conversion seems like a natural addition to this marketplace. Most EMR conversions are possible to vary extents with some accommodations for discrete data being converted to supplementary documents. Knowing what to expect ahead of a commitment is essential. This is where competing online proposals would make it interesting. Some programmers are quite cleaver and in this vast market I'm betting the best would show up to serve our needs. Is there already a marketplace like this for EMR conversions? If not, perhaps our professional organizations could spur an initiative to help this happen. Neighbors, MDHuntsville, Alabama Solo using FlexMedical EMR/Billing since 2/2009Attested MU in 2011 From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Margaret CoughlanSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:53 AMTo: Subject: data migration Hello all,Has anyone used any data migration services that they can recommend? I have my old EMR and data programs housed on a local server that we access through our network. My new EMR is internet based. We lose power often here and the generator frequency output often messes up the back up battery/server and I would love to just get rid of the server. I would need this data uploaded to the new EMR or at the very least, just loaded onto individual computers. THanks for any helpMargaret CoughlanNo virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Me too. Thanks also for your information on the UPS. Margaret data migration   Hello all, Has anyone used any data migration services that they can recommend? I have my old EMR and data programs housed on a local server that we access through our network. My new EMR is internet based. We lose power often here and the generator frequency output often messes up the back up battery/server and I would love to just get rid of the server. I would need this data uploaded to the new EMR or at the very least, just loaded onto individual computers. THanks for any help Margaret Coughlan No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5154 - Release Date: 07/25/12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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