XMRV conference notes, autism mentioned...

[Guest guest]

About 1 hour and 10 minutes in when the action begins – criticism of

CDC (by scientists!), guy from CDC looking like a figure from Kafka

novel, life sucked out by decades of bureaucracy. Not moving forward.

They fkd up big time once before, there is danger they will fk up this

time again – they are currently attempting to replicated the

retrovirus study, but their blood samples from CFS sufferers are taken

from people whose condition is defined as `Unwellness' (so not

all diagnosed cfs cases!!). So of course they are not going to find

anything and pronounce this retrovirus finding `invalid'. God

help us

1 hour 20 minutes in the presentation begins with details of the study,

why it is significant, on the virus how it is transmitted, how

infectious it is (it is!!!) what it means etc. also more details on the

tests they run to reveal this, difference between latent and active

infection (they run both types of tests now on offer, so thinking they

must be the same ones they used in the study, ie very good reliable)

Some graphs showing viral budding around outer membrane (which imo has

downstream effect that leads to autism, when happening in brain/glia

tissue)

then showing slides of the family of child who developed " nieman

picks " - they call it childhood alzheimers here, although Npicks is

in many ways identical to autism. It would be called autism if seen in a

younger child. All family tested positive for xmrv active

Now autism: 40% positive for DNA (6 out of 15 patients), 4 out of 7 =

57% positive for antibodies (meaning active infection).

Atypical MS, fibromyalgia also testing positive.

Now talking about blood taken from a diseased CFS patient – kept

frozen for 25 years, when thawed the virus was reactivated and still

infectious

More later

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for this. I am home today so I will play this while doing some

paper work.

Cheers,

Jill

From: natasa778 <neno@...>

Subject: XMRV conference notes, autism mentioned...

Date: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 10:55 AM

 

About 1 hour and 10 minutes in when the action begins – criticism of

CDC (by scientists!) , guy from CDC looking like a figure from Kafka

novel, life sucked out by decades of bureaucracy. Not moving forward.

They fkd up big time once before, there is danger they will fk up this

time again – they are currently attempting to replicated the

retrovirus study, but their blood samples from CFS sufferers are taken

from people whose condition is defined as `Unwellness' (so not

all diagnosed cfs cases!!). So of course they are not going to find

anything and pronounce this retrovirus finding `invalid'. God

help us

1 hour 20 minutes in the presentation begins with details of the study,

why it is significant, on the virus how it is transmitted, how

infectious it is (it is!!!) what it means etc. also more details on the

tests they run to reveal this, difference between latent and active

infection (they run both types of tests now on offer, so thinking they

must be the same ones they used in the study, ie very good reliable)

Some graphs showing viral budding around outer membrane (which imo has

downstream effect that leads to autism, when happening in brain/glia

tissue)

then showing slides of the family of child who developed " nieman

picks " - they call it childhood alzheimers here, although Npicks is

in many ways identical to autism. It would be called autism if seen in a

younger child. All family tested positive for xmrv active

Now autism: 40% positive for DNA (6 out of 15 patients), 4 out of 7 =

57% positive for antibodies (meaning active infection).

Atypical MS, fibromyalgia also testing positive.

Now talking about blood taken from a diseased CFS patient – kept

frozen for 25 years, when thawed the virus was reactivated and still

infectious

More later