Guest guest Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 So then do it already and stop complaining about dr Forrest trying to help docs bring down the cost of care. I did it my own way in 2008, have a choice of annual retainer, monthly Payment options, or just pay at each time of service. Insurance is only used for labs and outside services. What I hear so much on this group is how everyone is struggling to make it work financially, how insurers are a pain, and how patients just don't value or respect your care. Stop complaining and do something! If you want to know how and why I changed my practice, just ask. No charge, no percentage fee. But honestly, this group would do much better if true solutions would be looked at seriously, instead of just continuing to dig a deeper hole by continuing with all the third party bs, and talking bout how poor all of our patients are. My practice has retainer patients from low middle and high income classes. It's. It about income or fees. It's about value and trust. IMP's should lead the way in primary care in both value and trust! Sorry for the rant but I am late for dinner and get ranty when I am hungry! Steve stown Third party free since 2008 Opted out of Medicare July 2012. > > > > He's the current invited speaker > > > > https://app.sermo.com/posts/posts/141820 > > > > so you can quiz him directly. > > > > -- > > Graham Chiu > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Graham Chiu > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Graham Chiu > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 > If memory serves... > > $48/month is what is collected per patient as the retainer. Presuming this > is the same as the Physician Care Direct model, then in exchange for that > $48/month, pts. basically get one free comprehensive physical per year with > associated screening labs (CMP, CBC, pap/PSA, lipid panel) arranged through .. <snip> ..No > health insurance needed or accepted; patients are expected to pay in full at > time of visit. Quote from his post " Our patients generally pay no more than $20 when they come into the office and they are done; no Explanation Of Benefits to come in the mail and no hassles about getting balance billed. The second difference between our practice and concierge practices is that we do not limit the patient panel to a small size. One of the drawbacks to concierge models is that if all physicians were to transition to it the doctor shortage would be much worse. In our practice we are able to care for a patient panel size that is comparable to the average primary care practice. So don’t call us Concierge- if anything Concierge Lite-all the taste and none of the sugar/calories/guilt. " > > In exchange for that stiff 15% cut, No one is forcing anyone to buy into the franchise. He also has written extensively about his model. If you need personal mentoring, then pay for it. I would guess Mcs, Subway etc charge comparable franchise fees except here there is no branding. Just his not so secret formula. God forbid anyone make an income from medicine. Perhaps people should just read free access only journals and not pay to attend conferences where you pay someone to teach you something new on how to improve your skills. > PCD gives you a shiny piece of software > that allows you to print receipts with numbers on them that you make up to > show them how much they saved with their discounts. You'll also have Nothing mentioned about this in his model. -- Graham Chiu http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 >God forbid anyone make an income from medicine. Perhaps people should just read free access only journals and not pay to >attend conferences where you pay someone to teach you something new on how to improve your skills. >> PCD gives you a shiny piece of software that allows you to print >> receipts with numbers on them that you make up to show them how much >>they saved with their discounts. You'll also have >Nothing mentioned about this in his model. Then that's particularly interesting. Why? Because Physician Care Direct (http://physiciancaredirect.com) definitely offers such software (they call it 'Simplicity'), and Dr. Forrest's Access Healthcare (www.acchealth.com) is an affiliate of Physician Care Direct. The upshot? It seems to imply that Dr. Forrest is marketing/selling a system other than the one he himself is now using. And BTW, no, I don't have any aversions to either making or spending money. I just like to be clear at all times about which of those it is that I'm really doing. :^) Ken >Graham Chiu >http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ >Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Steve,Your rant makes sense.Being a physician martyr makes no sense.I am interested in learning more about your business model.I am sure I am not the only one.Come rant at IMP camp...RhondaSubject: Re: Dr Forrest on SermoTo: Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 10:26 PM So then do it already and stop complaining about dr Forrest trying to help docs bring down the cost of care. I did it my own way in 2008, have a choice of annual retainer, monthly Payment options, or just pay at each time of service. Insurance is only used for labs and outside services. What I hear so much on this group is how everyone is struggling to make it work financially, how insurers are a pain, and how patients just don't value or respect your care. Stop complaining and do something! If you want to know how and why I changed my practice, just ask. No charge, no percentage fee. But honestly, this group would do much better if true solutions would be looked at seriously, instead of just continuing to dig a deeper hole by continuing with all the third party bs, and talking bout how poor all of our patients are. My practice has retainer patients from low middle and high income classes. It's. It about income or fees. It's about value and trust. IMP's should lead the way in primary care in both value and trust! Sorry for the rant but I am late for dinner and get ranty when I am hungry! Steve stown Third party free since 2008 Opted out of Medicare July 2012. > > > > He's the current invited speaker > > > > https://app.sermo.com/posts/posts/141820 > > > > so you can quiz him directly. > > > > -- > > Graham Chiu > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Graham Chiu > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Graham Chiu > > http://www.compkarori.co.nz:8090/ > > Synapse - the use from anywhere EMR. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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