Bananas

[Guest guest]

Bananas are fine. Kiwi fruit, peaches, pears, plums, apricots,

raspberries, blueberries, pineapple, nectarines, grapes, and a slew of

other perfectly acceptable fruits aren't on the list either, I'm

guessing because it would have made for a pretty long list if he'd

included every fruit and vegetable. Remember that the list is a

guideline and a starting point. It's not all-inclusive.

True, jumbo extra-ripe bananas have a higher sugar content. You could

eat small barely-ripe ones if you were concerned about it. Watermelon

is on the authorized list though, and it's higher glycemic than a

banana.

A whey protein shake and a banana may be the single best meal you

could eat post-workout. The quick carbs, the quality protein, the

potassium, the vitamins, the minerals... all fabulous for muscle

recovery. I'm sure that's why Bill talks about bananas in the books

and includes them in shake recipes.

On 4/4/06, Dr. Val <drval@...> wrote:

> I'm just curious if anyone knows the answer. In the original book, bananas

> are not on the approved food list. Yet, he uses bananas in some recipes.

> I've been craving fresh bananas so I got some for this week, but does anyone

> know why they aren't on the approved list yet incorporated into recipes?

>

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I love my breakfast banana and no one is taking it way from

me!...lol.

They are, however, higher in calories than an apple (half a banana

is realy considered a serving by nutritionalists) and I think they

are higher on the glycemic scale than some other fruits. But, all

that being said, it's better than a bagel. I've been eating at

least one banana a day for 10 weeks and have lost 17 pounds.

Barbara

> >

> > I'm just curious if anyone knows the answer. In the original

> book, bananas

> > are not on the approved food list. Yet, he uses bananas in some

> recipes.

> > I've been craving fresh bananas so I got some for this week, but

> does anyone

> > know why they aren't on the approved list yet incorporated into

> recipes?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Like said a banana in your whey shake is probably the best. I think

bananas rock...they also can keep you from having muscle cramps, the added

potasium.. As long as you are not going over board and eating them like crazy

then it is fine to eat them. I eat one just about every day!

Pamela

alysd38 <no_reply > wrote:

I love my breakfast banana and no one is taking it way from

me!...lol.

They are, however, higher in calories than an apple (half a banana

is realy considered a serving by nutritionalists) and I think they

are higher on the glycemic scale than some other fruits. But, all

that being said, it's better than a bagel. I've been eating at

least one banana a day for 10 weeks and have lost 17 pounds.

Barbara

> >

> > I'm just curious if anyone knows the answer. In the original

> book, bananas

> > are not on the approved food list. Yet, he uses bananas in some

> recipes.

> > I've been craving fresh bananas so I got some for this week, but

> does anyone

> > know why they aren't on the approved list yet incorporated into

> recipes?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dr Val, I think bananas are not on the approved list because they

are a simple carb that are higher calorie. Really ripe bananas have

more sugar than ones that are a bit green, so our bodies metabolise

them differently. The foods on the approved list are lower glycemic

index so insulin doesnt spike as much and our blood sugar levels

don't go wonky when we eat them.

I do eat bananas though, but I generally have them as my post

workout carb so that I restore my glycogen levels and it is supposed

to shuttle the protein you've eaten to your muscles faster for

repair. That's why most post workout shakes have a higher GI carb

in them like bananas.

When considering all the carb options, bananas are still a good one.

They are all natural, taste great, have lots of vitamins/nutrients.

As long as the calorie content of the carb isnt too high for your

own personal plan, it should fit in with one of your small meals.

The only thing going against them is you *might* feel hungry sooner

after having a banana as a carb rather than an apple or oatmeal.

Only you can answer that question!

>>> In the original book, bananas

> are not on the approved food list. does anyone

> know why they aren't on the approved list yet incorporated into

recipes?

>>>>

[Guest guest]

Canyou> tell me what would be in them that would cause a reaction in a childwho> otherwise seems to tolerate fruits?

>>Yeastie beasties - something to do with the type of carbs in regualr ripe - better overripe as per SCD I have read

Mandi x

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No idea what the problem is Darla but we don't do banana's or apples, to be honest virtually no fruit, tiny bit of pear or pineapple is all we can get away with here.

Is banana a phenol food I can't remember?

Got to the stage now of just eliminating when a problem is spotted irrespective of no logical reason for the problem lol.

Vicky

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Phenols???

Natasa

>

> Has anyone ever had to eliminate bananas from their child's diet? Can

you

> tell me what would be in them that would cause a reaction in a child

who

> otherwise seems to tolerate fruits?

>

> Thanks,

> Darla

>

[Guest guest]

if on the SCD, bananas should only be eaten when ripe ie with brown

speckles all over the skin.

Margaret

> >

> > Has anyone ever had to eliminate bananas from their child's

diet? Can

> you

> > tell me what would be in them that would cause a reaction in a

child

> who

> > otherwise seems to tolerate fruits?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Darla

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bananas have approx the same amount of sugar content as grapes - yeast

connection?

Miles.

ps. If anyone would like a complete breakdown of sugars contained in

foods -US data, I can send them the info as an attachment privately.

rexel45@... wrote:

> Has anyone ever had to eliminate bananas from their child's diet? Can

> you tell me what would be in them that would cause a reaction in a

> child who otherwise seems to tolerate fruits?

>

> Thanks,

> Darla

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[Guest guest]

HI Darla,

I remembered reading about bananas in ‘optimum

nutrition for the brain’ Holford

So I’ve looked it up for you…

Some fruits have high-GL (glycemic load)

including bananas. Glycemic load measures the effect of a food on blood glucose

levels. This is about the release rate of

carbohydrates. Slow release is good for blood sugar levels and mood and generally

speaking unprocessed foods are the slowest to release their sugar. GL

levels of 11-14 should be eaten in moderation. 15+ should be avoided. One small banana is 12.

It says that eating two moderate GL foods

together results in a high GL intake.

So, it may be the gl or it may just be all

that sugar feeding the yeast, as someone has already said.

SARA

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hi i would very much like it if you could send me the

complete breakdown of sugars contained in foods as my

son is allergic to sugar but will only take his

vitamins in juice,

melissa

melissaeasthope@...

--- Miles wrote:

> Bananas have approx the same amount of sugar content

> as grapes - yeast

> connection?

> Miles.

>

> ps. If anyone would like a complete breakdown of

> sugars contained in

> foods -US data, I can send them the info as an

> attachment privately.

>

> rexel45@... wrote:

> > Has anyone ever had to eliminate bananas from

> their child's diet? Can

> > you tell me what would be in them that would cause

> a reaction in a

> > child who otherwise seems to tolerate fruits?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Darla

> >

> >

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My daughter does not tolerate bananas well ,a small amount causes

bloating.

I think I read on the LOD list,that they are high in serotonin which

can cause pain in some people.

Sharon.

>

> Has anyone ever had to eliminate bananas from their child's diet?

Can you

> tell me what would be in them that would cause a reaction in a child

who

> otherwise seems to tolerate fruits?

>

> Thanks,

> Darla

>

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Just remembered (lightbulb moment!) that my dh does not tolerate bananas

at all. He is very NT and can pretty much digest anything (no kidding),

never has any GI problems apart discomfort/pain when he eats banans, and

sometimes aubergines.

just trying to say you don't have to be on the spectrum or have GI

issues and not tolerate certain things, I guess.

Natasa

> >

> > Has anyone ever had to eliminate bananas from their child's diet?

> Can you

> > tell me what would be in them that would cause a reaction in a child

> who

> > otherwise seems to tolerate fruits?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Darla

> >

>

[Guest guest]

As per Shattock literature, Bananas are a very high phenol food. It is

probably the phenol that causes the intolerance - and known for

headaches etc.

[Guest guest]

Thanks very much for all the banana feedback...gave me lots of ideas to keep looking out for in other foods. It was a quick, nasty reaction that was short in duration (with residual poo problems...)

I hate to strike bananas off the list as he eats so very very little food as it is and I am getting pressure to get him to eat more solids but he just won't, there's no two ways about it. Especially while we are stirring up the gut bugs, I'm lucky if I can get four or five bites of food down him in a day.

I'll try the bananas once more and make sure they are ripe this time as the one he ate was just yellow.

Thanks loads!

Darla

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Hi

I love bananas in oatmeal...i also add a little peanut butter and it is very tastY!!

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Bananas

In a message dated 1/27/2007 9:03:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ebax@... writes:

I always buy bananas, but conveniently forget to eat them. One thing that works for me is slice it up on cereal in the morning, then it seems like a treat.

Just out of curiosity... have any of you ladies tried them (bananas) on oatmeal? On the canister I have, it shows a picture of sliced up bananas... made me wonder how it would taste.

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I love bananas mixed in with my morning bowl of oatmeal. I use 1/2 cup oatmeal (I use the old-fashioned kind), 1 cup 1% milk & one sliced banana (the mushier the better), some cinnamon. Microwave it together. Sometimes add a bit of sugar. YUM. This is very filling. As a change I sometimes instead of bananas used a cup of triple berry mix (blueberries, raspberries & blackberries) or 1/2 cup of canned pumpkin with my oatmeal. With the canned pumpkin instead of cinnamon, I use pumpkin pie spices and a portion of a packet of the vanilla flavored instant Carnation breakfast mix. Any of those combinations are very filling and I really miss it when I don't start the day with a bowl of oatmeal. When I

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>

> In a message dated 1/27/2007 9:03:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> ebax@... writes:

>

>

> I always buy bananas, but conveniently forget to eat them. One

thing that

> works for me is slice it up on cereal in the morning, then it

seems like a

> treat.

>

>

> Just out of curiosity... have any of you ladies tried them

(bananas) on

> oatmeal? On the canister I have, it shows a picture of sliced up

bananas... made

> me wonder how it would taste.

>

>

>

I eat (or at least try to eat) oatmeal every morning for breakfast.

I have tried bananas, strawberries, pumpkin, on it. The bananas and

berries were a nice change, can't say that I recommend the pumpkin

(and I actually like pumpkin)

BJ

[Guest guest]

Yum - thanks for the fruit in the oatmeal ideas ladies.... can't wait til breakfast time now LOL!!

[Guest guest]

If he likes the bananas that much, he probably has an IGG sensitivity to

them. That's the case for my guy. You probably should eliminate them

from his diet for a while to see if it helps.

Under ripe bananas are full of starches that feed yeast. Bananas are

allowed on the SCD--Specific Carbohydrate Diet ONLY when they are very

ripe (with black spots and no green at all) because the ripe banana

doesn't have starches anymore (ripening converts starch to natural

sugars). Same is true for other fruits--the riper, the better because

the simple sugar of ripe fruit is a monosaccharide and unripe starches

are disaccharides or polysaccharides which feed the yeast more. If yeast

is an issue, you might want to limit fruit--some people cut it out

completely. Learn more about the SCD at www.pecanbread.com

<http://www.pecanbread.com> .

Holly

mom of Quinn, age 5, recovering from autism

>

> Hi,

> I've been trying to work out for a while now why my ds has been having

> very soft smelly stools once/twice day and the only thing I can put it

> down to is his banana consumtion. He loves bananas and will eat 1-2

> every day or every 2nd day. I won't give him overly ripe or under ripe

> bananas. Am wanting to give him a break from eating them to see if it

> makes a difference but also wanting to know if giving under ripe

> bananas is ok as I know this will probably make stool harder.

> Have been wondering for a while if it's yeast or bacteria as I've also

> been seeing a tiny amount of mucus if stool 'pulled apart' with me

> checking.

> Donna.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

> I've been trying to work out for a while now why my ds has been having

> very soft smelly stools once/twice day and the only thing I can put it

> down to is his banana consumtion.

Bananas are high amine, which many kids don't tolerate. I have amine

links on my phenol page, because amines mimic phenols most of the time

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

Or, he might not tolerate bananas as a food. My son did not tolerate

bananas except with No-Fenol enzyme [even tho they are low phenol,

that enzyme works on fruits for a variety of reasons].

Bananas also increase yeast.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thanks Dana,

Only recently, my sister in law was wondering why her NT son was becoming a

little more hyperactive than usual after eating tomatoes(he is only 2 but loves

to snack on tomatoes-will prefer these to lollies) and I had to explain they are

high in salicylates and he could be getting a 'high' from eating them. I had no

idea that bananas could be a problem for kids.  Another thing I'd forgotten

to ask about besides his loose stools is that he's been having major excema

breakouts which only come back with a vengeance in the same spots if a steroid

cream is used to clear it up. Can amines cause excema/cause it to keep coming

back?. I'm definately not giving him bananas any more to see if they are the

cause of his soft stools/excema, but would love some more input regarding the

excema.

Donna.

[ ] Re: Bananas

>

> Hi,

> I've been trying to work out for a while now why my ds has been having

> very soft smelly stools once/twice day and the only thing I can put it

> down to is his banana consumtion.

Bananas are high amine, which many kids don't tolerate. I have amine

links on my phenol page, because amines mimic phenols most of the time

http://www.danasvie w.net/phenol. htm

Or, he might not tolerate bananas as a food. My son did not tolerate

bananas except with No-Fenol enzyme [even tho they are low phenol,

that enzyme works on fruits for a variety of reasons].

Bananas also increase yeast.

Dana

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[Guest guest]

excema is usually, though not always, diary. Yeast also will bring it

on in our house.

My NT (with issues) DD had it pretty bad. I've done a bit of ALA

chelation with her, and addressed her yeast issues. She has not had

excema in well over 1 year. She consumes primarily goat dairy, but can

tolorate cow yogurt, and occasional other cow dairy product without

consequence. Dairy used to mean major bloating, cramps, then gas... not

fun for anyone.

-Jenna

Donna Bowerman wrote:

>

> Thanks Dana,

> Only recently, my sister in law was wondering why her NT son was

> becoming a little more hyperactive than usual after eating tomatoes(he

> is only 2 but loves to snack on tomatoes-will prefer these to lollies)

> and I had to explain they are high in salicylates and he could be

> getting a 'high' from eating them. I had no idea that bananas could

> be a problem for kids. Another thing I'd forgotten to ask about

> besides his loose stools is that he's been having major excema

> breakouts which only come back with a vengeance in the same spots if a

> steroid cream is used to clear it up. Can amines cause excema/cause it

> to keep coming back?. I'm definately not giving him bananas any more

> to see if they are the cause of his soft stools/excema, but would love

> some more input regarding the excema.

> Donna.

>

> [ ] Re: Bananas

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > I've been trying to work out for a while now why my ds has been having

> > very soft smelly stools once/twice day and the only thing I can put it

> > down to is his banana consumtion.

>

> Bananas are high amine, which many kids don't tolerate. I have amine

> links on my phenol page, because amines mimic phenols most of the time

>

> http://www.danasvie w.net/phenol. htm

>

> Or, he might not tolerate bananas as a food. My son did not tolerate

> bananas except with No-Fenol enzyme [even tho they are low phenol,

> that enzyme works on fruits for a variety of reasons].

>

> Bananas also increase yeast.

>

> Dana

>

> Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.

> www.7.com.au/mail

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, so if he's not tolerating amines from the bananas and they're also kicking

up yeast along with ALA, it's not a good combo(has seemed a bit 'yeasty' for a

while but not the terrible yeast behaviours I've seen in the past)...I've never

had any dairy issues with ds. Are you saying that for your dd, excema was

primarily caused by yeast?

Donna.

[ ] Re: Bananas

>

>

> >

> > Hi,

> > I've been trying to work out for a while now why my ds has been having

> > very soft smelly stools once/twice day and the only thing I can put it

> > down to is his banana consumtion.

>

> Bananas are high amine, which many kids don't tolerate. I have amine

> links on my phenol page, because amines mimic phenols most of the time

>

> http://www.danasvie w.net/phenol. htm

>

> Or, he might not tolerate bananas as a food. My son did not tolerate

> bananas except with No-Fenol enzyme [even tho they are low phenol,

> that enzyme works on fruits for a variety of reasons].

>

> Bananas also increase yeast.

>

> Dana

>

> Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.

> www.7.com. au/mail

>

>

[Guest guest]

Not Dana, but for my kids....tomatoes and bananas both caused excema.

For us excema was usually caused by an allergy. Tomatoes were worse

than bananas...and they would crave them just like it. Anything with

tomatoes for quite a while had to be left alone....even with enzymes.

MyNT daughter's hands were covered in what was diagnosed as excema, and

it turned out to be celiac hepaforias...sorry not spelling well today.

But she is also allergic to wheat besides having celiac spru...so makes

sense. Anyway allergies and yeast...the combo is really bad on

dermatis or excema.

hth

Ronni

> Thanks Dana,

> Only recently, my sister in law was wondering why her NT son was

becoming a little more hyperactive than usual after eating tomatoes(he

is only 2 but loves to snack on tomatoes-will prefer these to lollies)

and I had to explain they are high in salicylates and he could be

getting a 'high' from eating them. I had no idea that bananas could

be a problem for kids.  Another thing I'd forgotten to ask about

besides his loose stools is that he's been having major excema

breakouts which only come back with a vengeance in the same spots if a

steroid cream is used to clear it up. Can amines cause excema/cause it

to keep coming back?. I'm definately not giving him bananas any more to

see if they are the cause of his soft stools/excema, but would love

some more input regarding the excema.

> Donna.