bed wetting

[Guest guest]

Hello Dana,

May be it's information you already know, but what I've heard is that a certain percentage of ADHD-kids has seizures at night,(and that's the explanation for bedwetting) so it's important to take a QEEG to exclude this possibility.

Letty

Bed wetting> Many of us work with ADD/ADHD kids. Some have problems with wetting. > Are any of you having success stopping the wetting? What do you do?> > Any and all insight appreciated.> > Dana> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Letty,

How does the Q tell you if the client is having night seizures? I've seen

clients who did extensive EEG monitoring, well beyond what you can see in a Q,

and the neurologist could not be certain of seizures unless they happened during

the actual monitoring.

Pete

>

> From: " lettydekker " <lettydekker@...>

> Date: 2006/02/11 Sat PM 05:02:35 EST

> < >

> Subject: Re: Bed wetting

>

> Hello Dana,

> May be it's information you already know, but what I've heard is that a

certain percentage of ADHD-kids has seizures at night,(and that's the

explanation for bedwetting) so it's important to take a QEEG to exclude this

possibility.

> Letty

> Bed

wetting

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> > Many of us work with ADD/ADHD kids. Some have problems with wetting.

> > Are any of you having success stopping the wetting? What do you do?

> >

> > Any and all insight appreciated.

> >

> > Dana

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Pete, you are right, you can't exclude it. What would you advise? I tought of taking a QEEG in order to optimize the possibility of monitoring whether seizure acitivity is taking place.

By the way, I am wcperimenting with your TLC and I am very enthousiastic about it. I am trying to put together a group for your course, so we can invite you to come to Holland. Would it be possible for you to actually come, if I manage to put togehter this group? And if so, what would be your conditions? If you prefer, you can send me the answer to these last question on the following address: lettydekker@...

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----Van: [mailto: ]Namens Van DeusenVerzonden: maandag 13 februari 2006 2:49Aan: Onderwerp: Re: Re: Bed wettingLetty,How does the Q tell you if the client is having night seizures? I've seen clients who did extensive EEG monitoring, well beyond what you can see in a Q, and the neurologist could not be certain of seizures unless they happened during the actual monitoring.Pete> > From: "lettydekker" <lettydekker@...>> Date: 2006/02/11 Sat PM 05:02:35 EST> < >> Subject: Re: Bed wetting> > Hello Dana,> May be it's information you already know, but what I've heard is that a certain percentage of ADHD-kids has seizures at night,(and that's the explanation for bedwetting) so it's important to take a QEEG to exclude this possibility. > Letty> Bed wetting> > > > Many of us work with ADD/ADHD kids. Some have problems with wetting. > > Are any of you having success stopping the wetting? What do you do?> > > > Any and all insight appreciated.> > > > Dana> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

My son is non-ds 18 and still has this problem but it HAS gotten SO MUCH

better... same story... just doesn't wake up. It used to be every night, now

it's about 3 times a month... I think in the next few months it will disappear

all together. So... is right... Hang in there and invest in a Sam's

membership... cheap laundry soap and cheaper replacement mattresses!

Connie

In a message dated 10/2/2006 4:11:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

cindymattern@... writes:

My non-ds son who is 11 still wears a pull up to bed. He literally soaks

the bed and will not wake up. The Dr. made the same comment that he is a

extremely hard sleeper and eventually he will outgrow the problem it's just a

matter of time. My son who does have DS quit when he hit puberty. I'm hoping

the same with my other son. Although he goes before he goes to bed he still

does wet just not as much and it does seem to be getting better. Hang in

there.

M.

[Guest guest]

It runs in our family too...among the boys only. They are well into their

teens before it gets better. Mine is 15 and still about three times a month

he has a wet bed. Just a hard sleeper, and doesn't wake up until he rolls

over onto a cold, wet spot. Alarms didn't work for us, but it does help to

limit the liquid at night, and MAKE them go before bed.

Bed wetting

> My non-ds son who is 11 still wears a pull up to bed. He literally soaks

> the bed and will not wake up. The Dr. made the same comment that he is a

> extremely hard sleeper and eventually he will outgrow the problem it's

> just a matter of time. My son who does have DS quit when he hit puberty.

> I'm hoping the same with my other son. Although he goes before he goes to

> bed he still does wet just not as much and it does seem to be getting

> better. Hang in there.

> M.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am just flying through, but I have wanted to mention this when I saw this

conversation:

The guy that owns the company I work for has a typical son who is almost 6

and still wets the bed. They have taken him to some doctors for this. He

found that they recommended a sleep study. His doctors said that bed wetting

is/can be a sleep disorder. Just a thought. When I see him I’ll get an

update…

Re: Bed wetting

It runs in our family too...among the boys only. They are well into their

teens before it gets better. Mine is 15 and still about three times a month

he has a wet bed. Just a hard sleeper, and doesn't wake up until he rolls

over onto a cold, wet spot. Alarms didn't work for us, but it does help to

limit the liquid at night, and MAKE them go before bed.

Bed wetting

> My non-ds son who is 11 still wears a pull up to bed. He literally soaks

> the bed and will not wake up. The Dr. made the same comment that he is a

> extremely hard sleeper and eventually he will outgrow the problem it's

> just a matter of time. My son who does have DS quit when he hit puberty.

> I'm hoping the same with my other son. Although he goes before he goes to

> bed he still does wet just not as much and it does seem to be getting

> better. Hang in there.

> M.

>

>

[Guest guest]

bed wetting can also be caused by a too small urethra. My first husband had

to have his enlarged when he was a teenager.

Di

Bed wetting

> My non-ds son who is 11 still wears a pull up to bed. He literally soaks

> the bed and will not wake up. The Dr. made the same comment that he is a

> extremely hard sleeper and eventually he will outgrow the problem it's

> just a matter of time. My son who does have DS quit when he hit puberty.

> I'm hoping the same with my other son. Although he goes before he goes to

> bed he still does wet just not as much and it does seem to be getting

> better. Hang in there.

> M.

>

>

[Guest guest]

We had similar results.

>

> My son wet the bed each and every night until I put him on the GF/CF

> diet. It stopped immediately the first day.

>

> The Casein Free part was the one that stopped the bedwetting and the

> Gluten Free is the one that stopped the chronic diarrhea and

stomache

> cramps (both lasted for 9 years). Both gone for 2 years Sep 2006.

>

> R

>

[Guest guest]

I have heard that this can be related to magnesium deficiency. Are

you supplementing well enough on that front?

Anne

>

> Is this related to the pituitary gland? My son is almost six and

still

> does not wake up to go pee during the night. Any supplements that

might

> help? We are chelating with ALA using Andy's protocol, only on round

8.

> Thank you!

> Sherry

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your reply Anne. I do supplement magnesium and recently

upped it because i've added biotin for yeast. I'll wait and see what

happens!

Sherry

> >

> > Is this related to the pituitary gland? My son is almost six and

> still

> > does not wake up to go pee during the night. Any supplements that

> might

> > help? We are chelating with ALA using Andy's protocol, only on

round

> 8.

> > Thank you!

> > Sherry

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry

My son has just turned 9. He was wetting the bed every night until a

few weeks after we started DMSA (6 months ago). He is not wetting

the bed AT ALL now. I have assumed it was the chelation that did it

but it could possibly be magnesium supplementation because we started

that just a few months before. As you say, just keep going and

hopefully the same will happen for you. Cheers,

Alison

> > >

> > > Is this related to the pituitary gland? My son is almost six

and

> > still

> > > does not wake up to go pee during the night. Any supplements

that

> > might

> > > help? We are chelating with ALA using Andy's protocol, only on

> round

> > 8.

> > > Thank you!

> > > Sherry

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Alison, this is encouraging!

Sherry

> > > >

> > > > Is this related to the pituitary gland? My son is almost six

> and

> > > still

> > > > does not wake up to go pee during the night. Any supplements

> that

> > > might

> > > > help? We are chelating with ALA using Andy's protocol, only

on

> > round

> > > 8.

> > > > Thank you!

> > > > Sherry

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Is this related to the pituitary gland? My son is almost six and still

> does not wake up to go pee during the night. Any supplements that might

> help? We are chelating with ALA using Andy's protocol, only on round 8.

Try increasing the yeast protocol, see if that helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

My son became fully toilet trained after starting his dmsa also. Up

until then he wore pull ups. It seemed that the first round he was

going to the toilet in the daytime, and within a few rounds he was dry

at night. Children usually do not need to go pee at night, once they

are a certain age/size etc. Is he having too much fluid in the

evening? Not sure if your child is dry all day, the history etc. But

we did find chelation solved the problem. So hang in there. The

minerals can't hurt either. My son was already on all the supplements

prior to beginning chelation...and he still did not use the potty at all.

Also, a child with night wetting, you should check his thyroid.

> > > >

> > > > Is this related to the pituitary gland? My son is almost six

> and

> > > still

> > > > does not wake up to go pee during the night. Any supplements

> that

> > > might

> > > > help? We are chelating with ALA using Andy's protocol, only on

> > round

> > > 8.

> > > > Thank you!

> > > > Sherry

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Does anyone have any ideas on bed wetting? We have been giving

Magnesium

> that seems to take care of 80%, but it would be nice to not have any bed

> wetting.

At my house, yeast overgrowth and die off caused this.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I have a question what is Star child? Also, how do you get a child to tell

you when they have to use the toilet? Right now my son who is five with

autism and apraxia is peeing in the potty and wearing underwear during the day

and

a pull up at school. He gets the concept of pee, but the poop thing is

another story. Every morning for five minutes I put him on the toilet and show

him

a picture of what I want him to do, nothing yet. Also, my three year old

daughter tells me once in a while when she has to go but most of the time I am

asking her, she had on her training pants and had and accident her pants were

wet and she didnt seem to mind, what do I do? I keep telling her to tell me

when she has to pee and go poop but she doesnt yet, she was 3 in August? Any

ideas? Jen

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

 

Thanks for the great info on bedwetting. At this point I am not worried or very

much concerned about my sons bedwetting at this point in time. My son has always

been a bedwetter has obtained the night control. I never was able to get him

fully night trained yet. I have great hopes though in the future. There is no

medical cause of it. Did mention to his ped though. he says to me not to worry

at this point since he trained at age 6 yo for day time. With hypotonia it could

have to do with lack of muscle control or just late to nigh train. H esay since

it took 6 y to day train could take that long to night train. Weird advice I

know but my son was in the room with us while we were talking so could of been

his way to make light of it for his sake. He does take meds at bedtime that

cause him to sleep very deeply sometimes and very restless. My son has severe

asthma and allergies and takes asthma meds nightly. He alsom jsut started on

Zyrtec again at bedtime

which is making him sleep deeply and waking very groogy. Plus he does have

sleep apnea (yes it has been checked by a medical doctor).  This was one reason

he had his tonsils and adenoids out in 4/06 becuse they were so huge they were

blocking his airway so the ENT told me.

 

Not sure the reason for the bed wetting but it does run in my family on my side

and his dad was a bedwetter and so was I. So could be a numbe rof things.

 

Not looking into meds for it yet or an alarm yet. But maybe at some point.

Thanks for the info though. Just going to take a wait and see approach at this

point. For now we use goodnights and a plastic sheet protector over the mattress

and most nights do not wet through. He is starting to wake up dry sometimes now.

Hopefully it keeps up.

 

Jeanne

NH

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Have you thought about teaching the sign for potty? Here's a cute

baby to teach that

http://babystrology.blogspot.com/2008/03/baby-sign-language-toilet-potty.html

About what is Starchild? I just posted a link to that company and

many others that explain it here

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[Guest guest]

It is usually that he is busy doing something and just wouldn't stop to sign

the potty, it seems like he can hold it forever. It isn't motivating for him

to tell me he has to to go. He does get a smile on his face when he does pee

and he sees how happy I am. Jen

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[Guest guest]

One of the problems we have had since starting the anti-viral protocol is our

son began wetting the bed at night. He never has an accident during the day,

but unless we wake him up at 11 PM and 6AM, he is consistently wetting the bed.

Has anyone had the same experience or have any suggestions?

Thank you!

Colleen

[Guest guest]

Noah did this as well, and he's been completely potty trained since the age of 3

1/2. He never had nighttime accidents. It started with daytime accidents, and

then those resolved and he started bed wetting. We've tried limiting fluid

intake and finally we had to use Pullups at night. Very frustrating!

Robyn

________________________________

From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 6:35:49 AM

Subject: Re: bed wetting

Colleen.

Yes and it is a good sign. Deep cycle sleep is when the brain forms connections,

longterm memory and more.

One of the meds that it seems to be related to is the SSRI. When we stated Zolof

it went on for months and restarted with each increase. Eventually it did slack

off as we reached the proper dosage.

We recently changed to Celex and it restarted but slack off after a couple of

days, much better.

Bill

From: colleen.waguespack <colleendesigns@ mac.com>

Subject: bed wetting

groups (DOT) com

Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:28 AM

One of the problems we have had since starting the anti-viral protocol is our

son began wetting the bed at night. He never has an accident during the day,

but unless we wake him up at 11 PM and 6AM, he is consistently wetting the bed.

Has anyone had the same experience or have any suggestions?

Thank you!

Colleen

[Guest guest]

We just started antivirals a few weeks ago as well and this happened to us too.

Even a few daytime 'mini' accidents- more when we increased the dose after the

first week- i asked the office about this and they called back saying Dr.G said

it was die off...

Meera

>

> From: colleen.waguespack <colleendesigns@ mac.com>

> Subject: bed wetting

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:28 AM

>

>

>

> One of the problems we have had since starting the anti-viral protocol is our

son began wetting the bed at night. He never has an accident during the day,

but unless we wake him up at 11 PM and 6AM, he is consistently wetting the bed.

Has anyone had the same experience or have any suggestions?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Colleen

>

>

[Guest guest]

Again is this or Autism or just boys being boys.Kids do go through bed

wetting episodes, generally pre-puberty and out grow it. Part of the deal. Zolof

or Die-off may exasperate the situation but they ares ill just kids.

From: meera327 <mckataria@...>

Subject: Re: bed wetting

Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 1:01 PM

 

We just started antivirals a few weeks ago as well and this happened to us

too. Even a few daytime 'mini' accidents- more when we increased the dose after

the first week- i asked the office about this and they called back saying Dr.G

said it was die off...

Meera

>

> From: colleen.waguespack <colleendesigns@ mac.com>

> Subject: bed wetting

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:28 AM

>

>

>

> One of the problems we have had since starting the anti-viral protocol is our

son began wetting the bed at night. He never has an accident during the day,

but unless we wake him up at 11 PM and 6AM, he is consistently wetting the bed.

Has anyone had the same experience or have any suggestions?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Colleen

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think that die off could be what triggered Noah's episodes and, for some

reason, he just keeps on doing it. I've also theorized that his bladder might be

on the small size, and considering all the fluid he drinks, that might cause the

problem. I had him checked out at Children's Hospital in LA because he had a

hypospadias repair and reconstruction when he was a year old. The repair is

holding, so it's not that. At this point, I'm in wait and see mode and hoping

he'll outgrow it.

All the best,

Robyn

________________________________

From: meera327 <mckataria@...>

Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 10:01:46 AM

Subject: Re: bed wetting

We just started antivirals a few weeks ago as well and this happened to us too.

Even a few daytime 'mini' accidents- more when we increased the dose after the

first week- i asked the office about this and they called back saying Dr.G said

it was die off...

Meera

>

> From: colleen.waguespack <colleendesigns@ mac.com>

> Subject: bed wetting

> groups (DOT) com

> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:28 AM

>

>

>

> One of the problems we have had since starting the anti-viral protocol is our

son began wetting the bed at night. He never has an accident during the day,

but unless we wake him up at 11 PM and 6AM, he is consistently wetting the bed.

Has anyone had the same experience or have any suggestions?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Colleen

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son started bedwetting as soon as we started SSRIs. He had *just* night

trained, too. He was dry for a week at night and then we added the SSRI. It

stayed the entire time he was on them and almost 2 years after stopping, it's

still an issue.

Cheryl

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On Apr 9, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Bill klimas wrote:

> Colleen.

> Yes and it is a good sign. Deep cycle sleep is when the brain forms

connections, longterm memory and more.

>

> One of the meds that it seems to be related to is the SSRI. When we stated

Zolof it went on for months and restarted with each increase. Eventually it did

slack off as we reached the proper dosage.

>

> We recently changed to Celex and it restarted but slack off after a couple of

days, much better.

>

> Bill

>

>

> From: colleen.waguespack <colleendesigns@...>

> Subject: bed wetting

>

> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:28 AM

>

>

>

> One of the problems we have had since starting the anti-viral protocol is our

son began wetting the bed at night. He never has an accident during the day, but

unless we wake him up at 11 PM and 6AM, he is consistently wetting the bed. Has

anyone had the same experience or have any suggestions?

>

> Thank you!

>

> Colleen

>

>