Effexor

January 3, 2005

>

> Effexor may actually 'work' for some people but I want the reality

of

> the side effects highlighted and known about too;

My son almost killed himself after starting Effexor. I look back now

and cringe. I would like to see the garbage taken off the market

before *one* more person is harmed by their trash they *still*

continue to call medicine! This drug has harmed enough people

already. If it were sold in a health food store and actually helping

people it would already be banned. errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Wake up America!!

Connie

the most important

> of which may be messing up the brain's chemical making ability

MORE

> once you come off them; not to mention the vaso constriction in

the

> brain, personality changes.......etc.

>

> For the member who left i just want to say that i can relate to

how

> good it can feel to feel 'normal' after such a long time of

misery.

> We're just trying to help people be more informed about the

reality

> of these 'wonder' drugs.

>

January 3, 2005

>

> Effexor may actually 'work' for some people but I want the reality

of

> the side effects highlighted and known about too;

My son almost killed himself after starting Effexor. I look back now

and cringe. I would like to see the garbage taken off the market

before *one* more person is harmed by their trash they *still*

continue to call medicine! This drug has harmed enough people

already. If it were sold in a health food store and actually helping

people it would already be banned. errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Wake up America!!

Connie

the most important

> of which may be messing up the brain's chemical making ability

MORE

> once you come off them; not to mention the vaso constriction in

the

> brain, personality changes.......etc.

>

> For the member who left i just want to say that i can relate to

how

> good it can feel to feel 'normal' after such a long time of

misery.

> We're just trying to help people be more informed about the

reality

> of these 'wonder' drugs.

>

January 3, 2005

>

> Effexor may actually 'work' for some people but I want the reality

of

> the side effects highlighted and known about too;

My son almost killed himself after starting Effexor. I look back now

and cringe. I would like to see the garbage taken off the market

before *one* more person is harmed by their trash they *still*

continue to call medicine! This drug has harmed enough people

already. If it were sold in a health food store and actually helping

people it would already be banned. errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Wake up America!!

Connie

the most important

> of which may be messing up the brain's chemical making ability

MORE

> once you come off them; not to mention the vaso constriction in

the

> brain, personality changes.......etc.

>

> For the member who left i just want to say that i can relate to

how

> good it can feel to feel 'normal' after such a long time of

misery.

> We're just trying to help people be more informed about the

reality

> of these 'wonder' drugs.

>

April 26, 2005

In a message dated 4/26/05 7:09:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> A friend finally tapered off Effexor within the past month. Her

> period is late but she had a negative pregnancy test. Could the

> Effexor withdrawal cause her to be late?

>

Oh, yes, it screws with your hormones big time. This drug is almost as bad as

the SSRIs for disrupting normal hormone levels.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

April 26, 2005

I am aware that Effexor is an SNRI meaning that it affects the reuptake of

norepinephrine - but doesn't also have all of the properties of an SSRI? I

thought it was a combination of seratonine and norepinephrine. Or is it JUST

norepinephrine and not seratonine, too? I am trying to get all of this straight

in my head because it appears from some articles that Effexor has an even higher

level of suicidal/homicidal cases associated with it. But no one really talks

about it in detail like Prozac, Paxil, etc, etc. Info, please?

Terry

glitterari@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/26/05 7:09:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> A friend finally tapered off Effexor within the past month. Her

> period is late but she had a negative pregnancy test. Could the

> Effexor withdrawal cause her to be late?

>

Oh, yes, it screws with your hormones big time. This drug is almost as bad as

the SSRIs for disrupting normal hormone levels.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

April 26, 2005

I am aware that Effexor is an SNRI meaning that it affects the reuptake of

norepinephrine - but doesn't also have all of the properties of an SSRI? I

thought it was a combination of seratonine and norepinephrine. Or is it JUST

norepinephrine and not seratonine, too? I am trying to get all of this straight

in my head because it appears from some articles that Effexor has an even higher

level of suicidal/homicidal cases associated with it. But no one really talks

about it in detail like Prozac, Paxil, etc, etc. Info, please?

Terry

glitterari@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/26/05 7:09:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> A friend finally tapered off Effexor within the past month. Her

> period is late but she had a negative pregnancy test. Could the

> Effexor withdrawal cause her to be late?

>

Oh, yes, it screws with your hormones big time. This drug is almost as bad as

the SSRIs for disrupting normal hormone levels.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

April 26, 2005

My understanding is it's both and I believe even more harmful.

> In a message dated 4/26/05 7:09:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> > A friend finally tapered off Effexor within the past month. Her

> > period is late but she had a negative pregnancy test. Could the

> > Effexor withdrawal cause her to be late?

> >

> Oh, yes, it screws with your hormones big time. This drug is almost

as bad as

> the SSRIs for disrupting normal hormone levels.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

>

April 26, 2005

My understanding is it's both and I believe even more harmful.

> In a message dated 4/26/05 7:09:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> > A friend finally tapered off Effexor within the past month. Her

> > period is late but she had a negative pregnancy test. Could the

> > Effexor withdrawal cause her to be late?

> >

> Oh, yes, it screws with your hormones big time. This drug is almost

as bad as

> the SSRIs for disrupting normal hormone levels.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

>

April 26, 2005

In doses up to 150 mgs daily Efexor/Effexor/Venlafaxine works as a

SSRI.

In doses above 150 it works both as a SSRI & a SNRI.

At its highest doses it even has mile effects on dopamine

recovering now after being on 300 mgs of the crap for six or seven

years !!!

> In a message dated 4/26/05 7:09:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> > A friend finally tapered off Effexor within the past month. Her

> > period is late but she had a negative pregnancy test. Could the

> > Effexor withdrawal cause her to be late?

> >

> Oh, yes, it screws with your hormones big time. This drug is

almost as bad as

> the SSRIs for disrupting normal hormone levels.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

>

April 26, 2005

In doses up to 150 mgs daily Efexor/Effexor/Venlafaxine works as a

SSRI.

In doses above 150 it works both as a SSRI & a SNRI.

At its highest doses it even has mile effects on dopamine

recovering now after being on 300 mgs of the crap for six or seven

years !!!

> In a message dated 4/26/05 7:09:39 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> > A friend finally tapered off Effexor within the past month. Her

> > period is late but she had a negative pregnancy test. Could the

> > Effexor withdrawal cause her to be late?

> >

> Oh, yes, it screws with your hormones big time. This drug is

almost as bad as

> the SSRIs for disrupting normal hormone levels.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

>

May 25, 2005

In a message dated 5/25/05 12:45:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> I realize this group is SSRI

> Crusaders, but is that all? Don't we all agree that all psychotropic

> drugs are dangerous? I think Effexor, for instance, is just as

> dangerous if not more so than say Prozac and it's not an SSRI.

Oh, we know Effexor is a bad drug. It's an SNRI, so it affects BOTH

serotonin and norepinephrine, and yes, it's been responsible for many a case of

mayhem. And yes, we want ALL psych drugs off the market!!! There isn't a one

of

them that is any good.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

May 25, 2005

Effexor is an SSRI/SNRI combination drug. The SNRI stands for

Selective Norepinephrine Reuptake Inhibitor. Strattera is the only

pure SNRI approved for use in the US but there are others approved for

use in other countries. The manufacturers of Effexor and Cymbalta

have taken to calling their drugs SNRI meaning Serotonin and

Norpinephrin Reuptake Inhibitors. I suspect that's been done to

appear that they are not connected to the recent SSRI controversy

being played out in the press. Don't be fooled, Effexor and Cymbalta

are both partially SSRIs.

> In a message dated 5/25/05 12:45:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

> > I realize this group is SSRI

> > Crusaders, but is that all? Don't we all agree that all

psychotropic

> > drugs are dangerous? I think Effexor, for instance, is just as

> > dangerous if not more so than say Prozac and it's not an SSRI.

>

> Oh, we know Effexor is a bad drug. It's an SNRI, so it affects BOTH

> serotonin and norepinephrine, and yes, it's been responsible for

many a case of

> mayhem. And yes, we want ALL psych drugs off the market!!! There

isn't a one of

> them that is any good.

>

> " Blind Reason "

> a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> Unsafe At Any Dose

>

May 25, 2005

Y'all,

Yes, I'm from the South. I'm well aware of what Effexor is. It is

also an SDRI at the dose I was on. But thanks for making that clear

since I didn't.

> > In a message dated 5/25/05 12:45:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> > SSRI medications writes:

> >

> > > I realize this group is SSRI

> > > Crusaders, but is that all? Don't we all agree that all

> psychotropic

> > > drugs are dangerous? I think Effexor, for instance, is just as

> > > dangerous if not more so than say Prozac and it's not an SSRI.

> >

> > Oh, we know Effexor is a bad drug. It's an SNRI, so it affects

BOTH

> > serotonin and norepinephrine, and yes, it's been responsible for

> many a case of

> > mayhem. And yes, we want ALL psych drugs off the market!!!

There

> isn't a one of

> > them that is any good.

> >

> > " Blind Reason "

> > a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

> > Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

> > Unsafe At Any Dose

> >

December 31, 2005

In a message dated 12/31/2005 1:37:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Holy Crap There is definately a place for this Jim. Did you get it

from a single source?

And who would take this crap???? I thought they added homicide to the list

recently????

January 6, 2006

My husband takes Effexor XR for his clinical depression (he's not CFS/FMS) so if

you find out about it not absorbing or any more information, please write on

this site. I would be interested in knowing what you find out.

in La Selva Beach CA

Re: Re: For Rich: glutathione test results

Marcia, thanks for the encouragement. I have been told that if the

CFS can be made better that usually the mold and MCS become better

based on past experiences.

Sure hope that will happen for you.

Isn't the Myers cocktail the one given to

AIDS/HIV patients?

that I don't know

Is this given to PWC's also?

Its given to all kinds of patients, it was an MS friend who told me I really

needed to do it and how much it helped her and she was right, it helps me too.

I am seeing my CFS

doctor next week and he wants to give me a diflucan IV, which might

be good for the mold and yeast. I wanted to also talk with him about

getting glutathione IV's and I guess you are getting you Myers IV

from your M.D.?

I dont' have a cfs MD, never had found one close enough to see. Can't afford

to travel and my crappy insurance wouldn't pay for any of it anyway. So I'm

seeing an ND-naturepath (when I can afford it. He's the one doing the IV's and

will dispense me the DMSA and work with me on the metals elimination. He sold me

the methyl B12 as well.

Do you know if the Myers cocktail is covered by

Medicare.

I am not on any medicare/medicaid or SS or any help so I dont' really know.

I do get a vitamin IV from my doctor but he never mentioned

it was named the Myers one so I need to ask him.

You may already be getting it then. Does it help you? Do you see any

difference from it?

Have you checked to see if any of your vit/supplements have magnesium

stearate? Just curious.

MANY of them have it, and my stearic acid and palmitic acid are waaay tooo

high on my organic acids tests and I think thats why! I'm going to have to try

and weed some of them out as much as I can.

I am also wondering if maybe my medications have magnesium stearate?

I wonder if it would be on their website for the drug companies?

I just did my fourth colonic and you can see what is flushing out in

a clear tube, which the irrigations go through, and I noticed this

past time clumps of fecal matter which had small, round white balls

of medicine. I am sure it is my Effexor. I have reduced dosages

before and put the small white balls of medicine in empty gelation

capsules. I am not sure why those did not dissolve in the past?

not sure about that either!

Marcia

June 25, 2006

, most that have successfully gotten off of effexor have had

to break the capsule and count the spheres inside for weaning. It's

extremely important to wean effexor very slow. It is one of the

hardest to wean off of, in my experience with ssri/snri's.

>

> Hi!~

> My name is and I am new to this group. I joined because

I

> am really worried about Effexor. I have been on Effexor XR @150mgs

for

> over 3 years. I have thought many times about stopping but have

always

> continued to take them. I have also talked to my doctor about

putting

> me on something else. He gave me prozac and said I could switch

the

> next day without any problems. I chose to stay on Effexor but with

all

> that I have read in other places and here I am really worried. I

have

> always known that with stopping the medication comes withdraw but I

> never realized that there were soooo many other problems with

them. I

> am a mother and wife and I have credited Effexor for helping me

through

> some painful times but wow...I am really worried about what kind of

> damage I have done to myself with this medication!

>

> ~~Chellybean~~

>

June 25, 2006

, most that have successfully gotten off of effexor have had

to break the capsule and count the spheres inside for weaning. It's

extremely important to wean effexor very slow. It is one of the

hardest to wean off of, in my experience with ssri/snri's.

>

> Hi!~

> My name is and I am new to this group. I joined because

I

> am really worried about Effexor. I have been on Effexor XR @150mgs

for

> over 3 years. I have thought many times about stopping but have

always

> continued to take them. I have also talked to my doctor about

putting

> me on something else. He gave me prozac and said I could switch

the

> next day without any problems. I chose to stay on Effexor but with

all

> that I have read in other places and here I am really worried. I

have

> always known that with stopping the medication comes withdraw but I

> never realized that there were soooo many other problems with

them. I

> am a mother and wife and I have credited Effexor for helping me

through

> some painful times but wow...I am really worried about what kind of

> damage I have done to myself with this medication!

>

> ~~Chellybean~~

>

June 25, 2006

, most that have successfully gotten off of effexor have had

to break the capsule and count the spheres inside for weaning. It's

extremely important to wean effexor very slow. It is one of the

hardest to wean off of, in my experience with ssri/snri's.

>

> Hi!~

> My name is and I am new to this group. I joined because

I

> am really worried about Effexor. I have been on Effexor XR @150mgs

for

> over 3 years. I have thought many times about stopping but have

always

> continued to take them. I have also talked to my doctor about

putting

> me on something else. He gave me prozac and said I could switch

the

> next day without any problems. I chose to stay on Effexor but with

all

> that I have read in other places and here I am really worried. I

have

> always known that with stopping the medication comes withdraw but I

> never realized that there were soooo many other problems with

them. I

> am a mother and wife and I have credited Effexor for helping me

through

> some painful times but wow...I am really worried about what kind of

> damage I have done to myself with this medication!

>

> ~~Chellybean~~

>

June 25, 2006

, most that have successfully gotten off of effexor have had

to break the capsule and count the spheres inside for weaning. It's

extremely important to wean effexor very slow. It is one of the

hardest to wean off of, in my experience with ssri/snri's.

>

> Hi!~

> My name is and I am new to this group. I joined because

I

> am really worried about Effexor. I have been on Effexor XR @150mgs

for

> over 3 years. I have thought many times about stopping but have

always

> continued to take them. I have also talked to my doctor about

putting

> me on something else. He gave me prozac and said I could switch

the

> next day without any problems. I chose to stay on Effexor but with

all

> that I have read in other places and here I am really worried. I

have

> always known that with stopping the medication comes withdraw but I

> never realized that there were soooo many other problems with

them. I

> am a mother and wife and I have credited Effexor for helping me

through

> some painful times but wow...I am really worried about what kind of

> damage I have done to myself with this medication!

>

> ~~Chellybean~~

>

June 25, 2006

Get the book Th Antidepressant Solution and read it before stopping. Then find a

doctor that actually knows what's going on to help you.

There are doctors out there that can help. www.alternativementalhealth.com might

have one listed near you.

Jim

Effexor

Hi!~

My name is and I am new to this group. I joined because I

am really worried about Effexor. I have been on Effexor XR @150mgs for

over 3 years. I have thought many times about stopping but have always

continued to take them. I have also talked to my doctor about putting

me on something else. He gave me prozac and said I could switch the

next day without any problems. I chose to stay on Effexor but with all

that I have read in other places and here I am really worried. I have

always known that with stopping the medication comes withdraw but I

never realized that there were soooo many other problems with them. I

am a mother and wife and I have credited Effexor for helping me through

some painful times but wow...I am really worried about what kind of

damage I have done to myself with this medication!

~~Chellybean~~

June 25, 2006