Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I don't doubt your committment for one second, I don't doubt the impact on Friday night but the truth is that not enough people who have been adversely affected share this committment and as a rule groups are not that interested in working together. If there were a protest at LILLY and 100 people showed up that would be considered great by current standards when there should be thousands that attend. Not to take a single thing away from Friday but the people that were there were already concerned enough about the safety of our children to show up. That's half the battle. The fact it happened at all is at least a step in the right direction. > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs is > > the the > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > and > > take > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, even > > if it > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. Does > > anyone > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > klonopin. > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, an > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack of > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > Congress > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > done? > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but it > > was > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we all > > came > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I think > > about > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > someone, > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I don't doubt your committment for one second, I don't doubt the impact on Friday night but the truth is that not enough people who have been adversely affected share this committment and as a rule groups are not that interested in working together. If there were a protest at LILLY and 100 people showed up that would be considered great by current standards when there should be thousands that attend. Not to take a single thing away from Friday but the people that were there were already concerned enough about the safety of our children to show up. That's half the battle. The fact it happened at all is at least a step in the right direction. > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs is > > the the > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > and > > take > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, even > > if it > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. Does > > anyone > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > klonopin. > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, an > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack of > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > Congress > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > done? > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but it > > was > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we all > > came > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I think > > about > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > someone, > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I don't doubt your committment for one second, I don't doubt the impact on Friday night but the truth is that not enough people who have been adversely affected share this committment and as a rule groups are not that interested in working together. If there were a protest at LILLY and 100 people showed up that would be considered great by current standards when there should be thousands that attend. Not to take a single thing away from Friday but the people that were there were already concerned enough about the safety of our children to show up. That's half the battle. The fact it happened at all is at least a step in the right direction. > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs is > > the the > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > and > > take > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, even > > if it > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. Does > > anyone > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > klonopin. > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, an > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack of > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > Congress > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > done? > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but it > > was > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we all > > came > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I think > > about > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > someone, > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I don't doubt your committment for one second, I don't doubt the impact on Friday night but the truth is that not enough people who have been adversely affected share this committment and as a rule groups are not that interested in working together. If there were a protest at LILLY and 100 people showed up that would be considered great by current standards when there should be thousands that attend. Not to take a single thing away from Friday but the people that were there were already concerned enough about the safety of our children to show up. That's half the battle. The fact it happened at all is at least a step in the right direction. > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs is > > the the > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > and > > take > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, even > > if it > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. Does > > anyone > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > klonopin. > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, an > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack of > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > Congress > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > done? > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but it > > was > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we all > > came > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I think > > about > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > someone, > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I'm with you completely! We need numbers showing up. When it's the same groups of people showing up every time the impact is lessened. Maybe announcing protests farther in advance, which is being worked on right now, will help. People will have the opportunity to plan. > > > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs > is > > > the the > > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > > and > > > take > > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, > even > > > if it > > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. > Does > > > anyone > > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > > klonopin. > > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, > an > > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack > of > > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > > Congress > > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > > done? > > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but > it > > > was > > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we > all > > > came > > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I > think > > > about > > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > > someone, > > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I'm with you completely! We need numbers showing up. When it's the same groups of people showing up every time the impact is lessened. Maybe announcing protests farther in advance, which is being worked on right now, will help. People will have the opportunity to plan. > > > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs > is > > > the the > > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > > and > > > take > > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, > even > > > if it > > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. > Does > > > anyone > > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > > klonopin. > > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, > an > > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack > of > > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > > Congress > > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > > done? > > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but > it > > > was > > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we > all > > > came > > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I > think > > > about > > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > > someone, > > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I'm with you completely! We need numbers showing up. When it's the same groups of people showing up every time the impact is lessened. Maybe announcing protests farther in advance, which is being worked on right now, will help. People will have the opportunity to plan. > > > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs > is > > > the the > > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > > and > > > take > > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, > even > > > if it > > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. > Does > > > anyone > > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > > klonopin. > > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, > an > > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack > of > > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > > Congress > > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > > done? > > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but > it > > > was > > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we > all > > > came > > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I > think > > > about > > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > > someone, > > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 I'm with you completely! We need numbers showing up. When it's the same groups of people showing up every time the impact is lessened. Maybe announcing protests farther in advance, which is being worked on right now, will help. People will have the opportunity to plan. > > > > > > > > I just can't get over how the effects of psychotrophic drugs > is > > > the the > > > > biggest, most evil secret ever! It's so hard to just sit back > > and > > > take > > > > it. I think if I/we did something to help get the word out, > even > > > if it > > > > didn't materialize to anything, would make me feel better. > Does > > > anyone > > > > have any ideas? I know I've signed petitions like for the > > > klonopin. > > > > Where do those petitions go to? What if we sent a petition, > an > > > > articulate letter about our predicament, along with a stack > of > > > > research to Dateline, or 20/20, the FDA itself, Oprah, our > > > Congress > > > > people, doctors, anyone we could reach? Has this already been > > > done? > > > > I've already written Dr. Phil and Oprah a long time ago, but > it > > > was > > > > just me. I know others who had done it also. But what if we > all > > > came > > > > together to do something? Is this just a far out idea? I > think > > > about > > > > this all the time, especially after I'm been unvalidated by > > > someone, > > > > particularly doctors, who are ignorant. > > > > > > > > Teryn > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey guys, What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and families, neighbors and countrymen? We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential mayhem in your town? Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their statistics will crash of course but it sounds good Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric doc. It's happening folks. It's really happening. I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind Teenscreen. It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my schools not drug pushers. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey guys, What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and families, neighbors and countrymen? We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential mayhem in your town? Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their statistics will crash of course but it sounds good Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric doc. It's happening folks. It's really happening. I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind Teenscreen. It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my schools not drug pushers. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey guys, What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and families, neighbors and countrymen? We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential mayhem in your town? Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their statistics will crash of course but it sounds good Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric doc. It's happening folks. It's really happening. I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind Teenscreen. It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my schools not drug pushers. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Hey guys, What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and families, neighbors and countrymen? We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential mayhem in your town? Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their statistics will crash of course but it sounds good Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric doc. It's happening folks. It's really happening. I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind Teenscreen. It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my schools not drug pushers. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 An outright ban is an unrealistic goal in the short term, maybe ever. I'm nut sure what it is specificly that I want I just know I'm getting frustrated waiting for it. There are enough people to demand action and get it but they just aren't motivated or maybe educated to do so. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 An outright ban is an unrealistic goal in the short term, maybe ever. I'm nut sure what it is specificly that I want I just know I'm getting frustrated waiting for it. There are enough people to demand action and get it but they just aren't motivated or maybe educated to do so. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 An outright ban is an unrealistic goal in the short term, maybe ever. I'm nut sure what it is specificly that I want I just know I'm getting frustrated waiting for it. There are enough people to demand action and get it but they just aren't motivated or maybe educated to do so. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 An outright ban is an unrealistic goal in the short term, maybe ever. I'm nut sure what it is specificly that I want I just know I'm getting frustrated waiting for it. There are enough people to demand action and get it but they just aren't motivated or maybe educated to do so. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see is full disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate information regarding withdrawal. It is only when you get all the information about a drug that you can make an informed decision to take it or not. With full disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri use. The casual prescribing for any reason would stop. And those that choose to take them anyway would at least know what to look for in the way of side effects and adverse effects. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see is full disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate information regarding withdrawal. It is only when you get all the information about a drug that you can make an informed decision to take it or not. With full disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri use. The casual prescribing for any reason would stop. And those that choose to take them anyway would at least know what to look for in the way of side effects and adverse effects. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see is full disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate information regarding withdrawal. It is only when you get all the information about a drug that you can make an informed decision to take it or not. With full disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri use. The casual prescribing for any reason would stop. And those that choose to take them anyway would at least know what to look for in the way of side effects and adverse effects. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see is full disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate information regarding withdrawal. It is only when you get all the information about a drug that you can make an informed decision to take it or not. With full disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri use. The casual prescribing for any reason would stop. And those that choose to take them anyway would at least know what to look for in the way of side effects and adverse effects. > > Hey guys, > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs outright? The FDA is hard > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from getting to our friends and > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many more that you guys know of. > > Just my humble opinion but from observing everything for the last 4 years it > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the drugs. I have personally > helped get about ten people to want to get off the drugs and enlightened > basically anyone that will listen to me. That seems to work better for me > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is the New Freedom Commission > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental illness will make > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you want that kind of potential > mayhem in your town? > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a school near you. At the same > time we have companies that specialize on human resources for large > companies talking up how much money and productivity will be created by > screening all their workers for mental illness. It's a complete lie, their > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and the convicts in the > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess anything can get worse. > > Children getting screened for mental health when they go see their pediatric > doc. > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread antidepressants and the > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick layer of peanut butter. > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening baloney first. It's the one > thing that I think every group no matter what they are working on, can see > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in store for these kids. > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of using antidepressants, > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He is the mastermind behind > Teenscreen. > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust their doctor and get > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely criminal to put these > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our schools, I want phonics in my > schools not drug pushers. > > Jim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Seeing how the net is duplicated , triplicated, and quadroplcated, how can any word get through to anyone at all . Even then , its so questionable, how can anyone believe it. Even the athorities, are admitting they are failures, and countries they install their complete control devices in have the internets there collapse . The ones doing this are laying the blame back on the gov who hired them to do it in the first place. But even that info , may be more duplication. The law is being rewritten for the benifit of the pharms, their friends, and their money. When the law is rewritten, so is the net , and history. Our information is so way back there, its not funny. Because of our labels , we are considered less than criminals on any of this, so we are ignored , except for incarceration in prisons or asylums . Thats why little to any info, we put out about the pharms is shown anywhere . Even the news groups are the same, at least duplicated. The only way anyone can tell a small bit if someone is even reading what you write, is some sort of feed back. Even that may be the problem answering in its own humanity. It is possible that some of the pharm people or gov people have some sort of feelings trying to escape from their cold statures of non feeling. As ugly as they all are, some still see a need to possibly give mercy, or pitty , or even compassion through their huge piles of worthless cash, compared to one poor child , wiped out on ritalin and tripple SSRIs . Knowing psych as it is, if the ritalin makes too many side effects , they just switch it to another stimulant and enforce the constant use of it . Then the SSRIs , arent even questioned on this. Its the merry go round round , and they are so addictive, rarely can anyone stop . We are all profiled to see what causes us anger or saddness , or hate . The psychs/pharms are part of this whole scheme to control. The law is allowing them to tap the phones too . Overwriting the law . Our info is unable to make a dent to assemble . Most all of it, is captured. You are right, one week , is not enough time to have information trickle out , but too much time causes too many problems also. They know also, by the division in the anti psych groups, how to use that to overwrite, any type of good to turn it bad . The insiders , who play both sides in this , are laughing and dancing around us in lock up enjoying their jobs, and being able to go home at night, instead of lay in a cespool of insanity. Placebos, or low dose maintanance ,are their ordered meds , while we are crippled , and self destruct . Its all purposely done. When one leader says stiff him , the other smiles in seeing them defeated . Big Pharm has its way doenst it . Psychiatry is such a pawn in this game too. Almost quite the dupe to the real big boys playing with life , like its a joke . I only care about the victims. The rich, or the gov, no way. They have the best handed them on silver platters. We are given the worst , on paper plates filled with shit , and violence . The vicitms deserve the pity, instead they are more to blame and get hell , when trying to crawl out of the pits , their families cast them into . If you dont have pity, I dont want to even look at you , or listen to you . It means you are " brainwashed " overwritten on the truth, far too much. Without compassion, you are worthless as Psyhciatry and pharm co itself . Im being nice about it too . Thanks . --- lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: > Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see > is full > disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate > information regarding > withdrawal. It is only when you get all the > information about a drug > that you can make an informed decision to take it or > not. With full > disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri > use. The casual > prescribing for any reason would stop. And those > that choose to take > them anyway would at least know what to look for in > the way of side > effects and adverse effects. > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs > outright? The FDA > is hard > > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from > getting to our > friends and > > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many > more that you guys > know of. > > > > Just my humble opinion but from observing > everything for the last 4 > years it > > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the > drugs. I have > personally > > helped get about ten people to want to get off the > drugs and > enlightened > > basically anyone that will listen to me. That > seems to work better > for me > > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is > the New Freedom > Commission > > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental > illness will make > > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you > want that kind of > potential > > mayhem in your town? > > > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a > school near you. At > the same > > time we have companies that specialize on human > resources for large > > companies talking up how much money and > productivity will be > created by > > screening all their workers for mental illness. > It's a complete > lie, their > > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > > > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and > the convicts in the > > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess > anything can get > worse. > > > > Children getting screened for mental health when > they go see their > pediatric > > doc. > > > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread > antidepressants > and the > > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick > layer of peanut > butter. > > > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening > baloney first. It's > the one > > thing that I think every group no matter what they > are working on, > can see > > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in > store for these > kids. > > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of > using antidepressants, > > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He > is the mastermind > behind > > Teenscreen. > > > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust > their doctor and > get > > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely > criminal to put > these > > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our > schools, I want phonics > in my > > schools not drug pushers. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Seeing how the net is duplicated , triplicated, and quadroplcated, how can any word get through to anyone at all . Even then , its so questionable, how can anyone believe it. Even the athorities, are admitting they are failures, and countries they install their complete control devices in have the internets there collapse . The ones doing this are laying the blame back on the gov who hired them to do it in the first place. But even that info , may be more duplication. The law is being rewritten for the benifit of the pharms, their friends, and their money. When the law is rewritten, so is the net , and history. Our information is so way back there, its not funny. Because of our labels , we are considered less than criminals on any of this, so we are ignored , except for incarceration in prisons or asylums . Thats why little to any info, we put out about the pharms is shown anywhere . Even the news groups are the same, at least duplicated. The only way anyone can tell a small bit if someone is even reading what you write, is some sort of feed back. Even that may be the problem answering in its own humanity. It is possible that some of the pharm people or gov people have some sort of feelings trying to escape from their cold statures of non feeling. As ugly as they all are, some still see a need to possibly give mercy, or pitty , or even compassion through their huge piles of worthless cash, compared to one poor child , wiped out on ritalin and tripple SSRIs . Knowing psych as it is, if the ritalin makes too many side effects , they just switch it to another stimulant and enforce the constant use of it . Then the SSRIs , arent even questioned on this. Its the merry go round round , and they are so addictive, rarely can anyone stop . We are all profiled to see what causes us anger or saddness , or hate . The psychs/pharms are part of this whole scheme to control. The law is allowing them to tap the phones too . Overwriting the law . Our info is unable to make a dent to assemble . Most all of it, is captured. You are right, one week , is not enough time to have information trickle out , but too much time causes too many problems also. They know also, by the division in the anti psych groups, how to use that to overwrite, any type of good to turn it bad . The insiders , who play both sides in this , are laughing and dancing around us in lock up enjoying their jobs, and being able to go home at night, instead of lay in a cespool of insanity. Placebos, or low dose maintanance ,are their ordered meds , while we are crippled , and self destruct . Its all purposely done. When one leader says stiff him , the other smiles in seeing them defeated . Big Pharm has its way doenst it . Psychiatry is such a pawn in this game too. Almost quite the dupe to the real big boys playing with life , like its a joke . I only care about the victims. The rich, or the gov, no way. They have the best handed them on silver platters. We are given the worst , on paper plates filled with shit , and violence . The vicitms deserve the pity, instead they are more to blame and get hell , when trying to crawl out of the pits , their families cast them into . If you dont have pity, I dont want to even look at you , or listen to you . It means you are " brainwashed " overwritten on the truth, far too much. Without compassion, you are worthless as Psyhciatry and pharm co itself . Im being nice about it too . Thanks . --- lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: > Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see > is full > disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate > information regarding > withdrawal. It is only when you get all the > information about a drug > that you can make an informed decision to take it or > not. With full > disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri > use. The casual > prescribing for any reason would stop. And those > that choose to take > them anyway would at least know what to look for in > the way of side > effects and adverse effects. > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs > outright? The FDA > is hard > > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from > getting to our > friends and > > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many > more that you guys > know of. > > > > Just my humble opinion but from observing > everything for the last 4 > years it > > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the > drugs. I have > personally > > helped get about ten people to want to get off the > drugs and > enlightened > > basically anyone that will listen to me. That > seems to work better > for me > > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is > the New Freedom > Commission > > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental > illness will make > > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you > want that kind of > potential > > mayhem in your town? > > > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a > school near you. At > the same > > time we have companies that specialize on human > resources for large > > companies talking up how much money and > productivity will be > created by > > screening all their workers for mental illness. > It's a complete > lie, their > > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > > > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and > the convicts in the > > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess > anything can get > worse. > > > > Children getting screened for mental health when > they go see their > pediatric > > doc. > > > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread > antidepressants > and the > > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick > layer of peanut > butter. > > > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening > baloney first. It's > the one > > thing that I think every group no matter what they > are working on, > can see > > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in > store for these > kids. > > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of > using antidepressants, > > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He > is the mastermind > behind > > Teenscreen. > > > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust > their doctor and > get > > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely > criminal to put > these > > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our > schools, I want phonics > in my > > schools not drug pushers. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Seeing how the net is duplicated , triplicated, and quadroplcated, how can any word get through to anyone at all . Even then , its so questionable, how can anyone believe it. Even the athorities, are admitting they are failures, and countries they install their complete control devices in have the internets there collapse . The ones doing this are laying the blame back on the gov who hired them to do it in the first place. But even that info , may be more duplication. The law is being rewritten for the benifit of the pharms, their friends, and their money. When the law is rewritten, so is the net , and history. Our information is so way back there, its not funny. Because of our labels , we are considered less than criminals on any of this, so we are ignored , except for incarceration in prisons or asylums . Thats why little to any info, we put out about the pharms is shown anywhere . Even the news groups are the same, at least duplicated. The only way anyone can tell a small bit if someone is even reading what you write, is some sort of feed back. Even that may be the problem answering in its own humanity. It is possible that some of the pharm people or gov people have some sort of feelings trying to escape from their cold statures of non feeling. As ugly as they all are, some still see a need to possibly give mercy, or pitty , or even compassion through their huge piles of worthless cash, compared to one poor child , wiped out on ritalin and tripple SSRIs . Knowing psych as it is, if the ritalin makes too many side effects , they just switch it to another stimulant and enforce the constant use of it . Then the SSRIs , arent even questioned on this. Its the merry go round round , and they are so addictive, rarely can anyone stop . We are all profiled to see what causes us anger or saddness , or hate . The psychs/pharms are part of this whole scheme to control. The law is allowing them to tap the phones too . Overwriting the law . Our info is unable to make a dent to assemble . Most all of it, is captured. You are right, one week , is not enough time to have information trickle out , but too much time causes too many problems also. They know also, by the division in the anti psych groups, how to use that to overwrite, any type of good to turn it bad . The insiders , who play both sides in this , are laughing and dancing around us in lock up enjoying their jobs, and being able to go home at night, instead of lay in a cespool of insanity. Placebos, or low dose maintanance ,are their ordered meds , while we are crippled , and self destruct . Its all purposely done. When one leader says stiff him , the other smiles in seeing them defeated . Big Pharm has its way doenst it . Psychiatry is such a pawn in this game too. Almost quite the dupe to the real big boys playing with life , like its a joke . I only care about the victims. The rich, or the gov, no way. They have the best handed them on silver platters. We are given the worst , on paper plates filled with shit , and violence . The vicitms deserve the pity, instead they are more to blame and get hell , when trying to crawl out of the pits , their families cast them into . If you dont have pity, I dont want to even look at you , or listen to you . It means you are " brainwashed " overwritten on the truth, far too much. Without compassion, you are worthless as Psyhciatry and pharm co itself . Im being nice about it too . Thanks . --- lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: > Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see > is full > disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate > information regarding > withdrawal. It is only when you get all the > information about a drug > that you can make an informed decision to take it or > not. With full > disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri > use. The casual > prescribing for any reason would stop. And those > that choose to take > them anyway would at least know what to look for in > the way of side > effects and adverse effects. > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs > outright? The FDA > is hard > > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from > getting to our > friends and > > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many > more that you guys > know of. > > > > Just my humble opinion but from observing > everything for the last 4 > years it > > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the > drugs. I have > personally > > helped get about ten people to want to get off the > drugs and > enlightened > > basically anyone that will listen to me. That > seems to work better > for me > > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is > the New Freedom > Commission > > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental > illness will make > > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you > want that kind of > potential > > mayhem in your town? > > > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a > school near you. At > the same > > time we have companies that specialize on human > resources for large > > companies talking up how much money and > productivity will be > created by > > screening all their workers for mental illness. > It's a complete > lie, their > > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > > > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and > the convicts in the > > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess > anything can get > worse. > > > > Children getting screened for mental health when > they go see their > pediatric > > doc. > > > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread > antidepressants > and the > > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick > layer of peanut > butter. > > > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening > baloney first. It's > the one > > thing that I think every group no matter what they > are working on, > can see > > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in > store for these > kids. > > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of > using antidepressants, > > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He > is the mastermind > behind > > Teenscreen. > > > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust > their doctor and > get > > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely > criminal to put > these > > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our > schools, I want phonics > in my > > schools not drug pushers. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Seeing how the net is duplicated , triplicated, and quadroplcated, how can any word get through to anyone at all . Even then , its so questionable, how can anyone believe it. Even the athorities, are admitting they are failures, and countries they install their complete control devices in have the internets there collapse . The ones doing this are laying the blame back on the gov who hired them to do it in the first place. But even that info , may be more duplication. The law is being rewritten for the benifit of the pharms, their friends, and their money. When the law is rewritten, so is the net , and history. Our information is so way back there, its not funny. Because of our labels , we are considered less than criminals on any of this, so we are ignored , except for incarceration in prisons or asylums . Thats why little to any info, we put out about the pharms is shown anywhere . Even the news groups are the same, at least duplicated. The only way anyone can tell a small bit if someone is even reading what you write, is some sort of feed back. Even that may be the problem answering in its own humanity. It is possible that some of the pharm people or gov people have some sort of feelings trying to escape from their cold statures of non feeling. As ugly as they all are, some still see a need to possibly give mercy, or pitty , or even compassion through their huge piles of worthless cash, compared to one poor child , wiped out on ritalin and tripple SSRIs . Knowing psych as it is, if the ritalin makes too many side effects , they just switch it to another stimulant and enforce the constant use of it . Then the SSRIs , arent even questioned on this. Its the merry go round round , and they are so addictive, rarely can anyone stop . We are all profiled to see what causes us anger or saddness , or hate . The psychs/pharms are part of this whole scheme to control. The law is allowing them to tap the phones too . Overwriting the law . Our info is unable to make a dent to assemble . Most all of it, is captured. You are right, one week , is not enough time to have information trickle out , but too much time causes too many problems also. They know also, by the division in the anti psych groups, how to use that to overwrite, any type of good to turn it bad . The insiders , who play both sides in this , are laughing and dancing around us in lock up enjoying their jobs, and being able to go home at night, instead of lay in a cespool of insanity. Placebos, or low dose maintanance ,are their ordered meds , while we are crippled , and self destruct . Its all purposely done. When one leader says stiff him , the other smiles in seeing them defeated . Big Pharm has its way doenst it . Psychiatry is such a pawn in this game too. Almost quite the dupe to the real big boys playing with life , like its a joke . I only care about the victims. The rich, or the gov, no way. They have the best handed them on silver platters. We are given the worst , on paper plates filled with shit , and violence . The vicitms deserve the pity, instead they are more to blame and get hell , when trying to crawl out of the pits , their families cast them into . If you dont have pity, I dont want to even look at you , or listen to you . It means you are " brainwashed " overwritten on the truth, far too much. Without compassion, you are worthless as Psyhciatry and pharm co itself . Im being nice about it too . Thanks . --- lsyorke <lsyorke@...> wrote: > Banning is never going to happen. What I want to see > is full > disclosure of the adverse effects and accurate > information regarding > withdrawal. It is only when you get all the > information about a drug > that you can make an informed decision to take it or > not. With full > disclosure we would see a drastic reduction in ssri > use. The casual > prescribing for any reason would stop. And those > that choose to take > them anyway would at least know what to look for in > the way of side > effects and adverse effects. > > > > > > > > Hey guys, > > > > What do you want to accomplish? Banning the drugs > outright? The FDA > is hard > > to convince. Stopping the flow of the drugs from > getting to our > friends and > > families, neighbors and countrymen? > > > > We got all sorts of groups that I know of. Many > more that you guys > know of. > > > > Just my humble opinion but from observing > everything for the last 4 > years it > > looks like the FDA will not stop the use of the > drugs. I have > personally > > helped get about ten people to want to get off the > drugs and > enlightened > > basically anyone that will listen to me. That > seems to work better > for me > > but the suicidal warnings really made it easy. > > > > I think the most dangerous thing at this time is > the New Freedom > Commission > > Initiative. Screening everyone for a mental > illness will make > > antidepressants a very hot seller again. do you > want that kind of > potential > > mayhem in your town? > > > > Teenscreen and Signs of Suicide are coming to a > school near you. At > the same > > time we have companies that specialize on human > resources for large > > companies talking up how much money and > productivity will be > created by > > screening all their workers for mental illness. > It's a complete > lie, their > > statistics will crash of course but it sounds good > > > > > Then all the old dears in the nursing homes, and > the convicts in the > > prisons, foster care all ready does it but I guess > anything can get > worse. > > > > Children getting screened for mental health when > they go see their > pediatric > > doc. > > > > It's happening folks. It's really happening. > > > > I say that these " Initiatives " are going to spread > antidepressants > and the > > rest of the psych drugs on the USA like a thick > layer of peanut > butter. > > > > I say we kick the crap out of this screening > baloney first. It's > the one > > thing that I think every group no matter what they > are working on, > can see > > is dangerous, and I know antidepressants are in > store for these > kids. > > Shaffer has been one the bigger proponents of > using antidepressants, > > defending them repeatedly for use in children. He > is the mastermind > behind > > Teenscreen. > > > > It's one thing for a grown adult to go and trust > their doctor and > get > > creamed with antidepressants. But it's completely > criminal to put > these > > invasive, unscientific questionaires in our > schools, I want phonics > in my > > schools not drug pushers. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2006 Report Share Posted April 3, 2006 Hi guys, I agree, it's taking too long and people don't know enough. We live in a world of sound bites. I think Charlie's CD is a great tool for educating people. I like that idea of getting full informed consent BEFORE taking the drugs. The problem is most people will not take the responsibility to get informed themselves, especially if they are not feeling well. We have to get a law passed in any state that requires full informed consent be spoon fed to the public before the drugs can be administered. That would change everything. Actually you might find a lot of family doctors getting completely informed about the drugs themselves and getting away from giving them out!! Check this site out: http://www.medicalaccountability.com/ Get it passed in any state and it will start getting passed in all states. Like a snowball effect. Jim An outright ban is an unrealistic goal in the short term, maybe ever. I'm nut sure what it is specificly that I want I just know I'm getting frustrated waiting for it. There are enough people to demand action and get it but they just aren't motivated or maybe educated to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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