Re: High Pitched Screaming and Emotional Outbursts

[Guest guest]

HI,

In my teaching experiences I have known children with autism who were

" screamers " .  I usually treated this as an attempt to communicate.....albeit

communicating in an inappropriate way. It usually happened during times of

intense excitement or emotion.  The children I have known who did this were

mainly nonverbal.   Is your child nonverbal?  One thing that does seem to

work is teaching the child an appropriate phrase to use in those situations.

I would add that i  have seen one very gentle, loving mother use a technique of

covering the child's mouth.  She wasn't doing it in an angry way....and i think

she had actually learned this as a technique.  maybe some one else here will

know more about that? I hope so, ka

" Mom, I'm 6 years old now. I think I'm old enough to cut my own hair! "

From: Martha Wood <marthawood70@...>

Subject: High Pitched Screaming and Emotional Outbursts

" groups (DOT) com " < >

Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:28 PM

 

Hello listmates,

We have been concerned for some time with our sons high pitched screaming. A

vocal stim? He usually does this when excited about something. Of course

this does not go over well in the school setting. We have not come across

another child that does this, and are unsure as to how to handle it.

Discipline? He is five now and this remains one of the main " attention

drawing " behaviors that we cannot seem to overcome. Is there anyone on this

list that can give some counsel on this?

Also, we are on day 6 of Prozac and are highly concerned. We have already

called Dr. G's office but have been told we may not get a reply

until Thursday. Our son is having these terrible emotional outbursts much

like tantrums. This is highly unusual because he is so easy going and sweet

tempered. Has anyone experienced this with an SSRI change or with Prozac? If

so do we wait this out or does this behavior warrant a change in meds soon?

Thanks so much for any feedback.

Martha

[Guest guest]

Hey Martha,

I dunno about the screaming - I hope someone can help you with that.

Re the initial effects of prozac, it's hard to say. Sometimes upping the dose

after the first two weeks takes care of it. 

If it is ok, you probably want to stick with it at least until that 2 week

mark,  but if things progress much worse you may have to push more at the

office to see what to do.  Every once in a while, reactions can be so intense

that they don't make it two weeks, but most of the time you want to hang in

there.  Usually 6 days isn't enough to find out how it will  benefit him, and

those first few days can really be rough.  What you need to observe most is

whether you see improvement in or diminishing of the eye contact, how alert he

is, and how his focus is.

Sometimes when an SSRI is going to actually be a good fit, the emotions can be

more brittle.  We see 'negative' behaviors that can sometimes be a positive

sign.

Just trying to give a bit of a pep talk while you wait it out, if that's what

the doc suggests, which, unless there are more things like foggy brain, etc, he

probably will (if not saying increase it lol).

HTH

 

________________________________

From: Martha Wood <marthawood70@...>

" groups (DOT) com " < >

Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:28:46 PM

Subject: High Pitched Screaming and Emotional Outbursts

 

Hello listmates,

We have been concerned for some time with our sons high pitched screaming. A

vocal stim? He usually does this when excited about something. Of course

this does not go over well in the school setting. We have not come across

another child that does this, and are unsure as to how to handle it.

Discipline? He is five now and this remains one of the main " attention

drawing " behaviors that we cannot seem to overcome. Is there anyone on this

list that can give some counsel on this?

Also, we are on day 6 of Prozac and are highly concerned. We have already

called Dr. G's office but have been told we may not get a reply

until Thursday. Our son is having these terrible emotional outbursts much

like tantrums. This is highly unusual because he is so easy going and sweet

tempered. Has anyone experienced this with an SSRI change or with Prozac? If

so do we wait this out or does this behavior warrant a change in meds soon?

Thanks so much for any feedback.

Martha

[Guest guest]

I have the same problem with my son. While some of the time I know it's out

of frustration, at other times it seems random, more like a stim as you

said. I kept saying to him, " no screaming. " but it made no difference. One

day when he was doing it I said, " screaming " and then I screamed,

" aaaaahhhhh " (not cruelly, just to let him know what screaming meant) Now

when he screams I say no screaming and he seems to understand better.

Hope that helps a little

Kim

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Martha Wood <marthawood70@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hello listmates,

> We have been concerned for some time with our sons high pitched screaming.

> A

> vocal stim? He usually does this when excited about something. Of course

> this does not go over well in the school setting. We have not come across

> another child that does this, and are unsure as to how to handle it.

> Discipline? He is five now and this remains one of the main " attention

> drawing " behaviors that we cannot seem to overcome. Is there anyone on this

> list that can give some counsel on this?

>

> Also, we are on day 6 of Prozac and are highly concerned. We have already

> called Dr. G's office but have been told we may not get a reply

> until Thursday. Our son is having these terrible emotional outbursts much

> like tantrums. This is highly unusual because he is so easy going and sweet

> tempered. Has anyone experienced this with an SSRI change or with Prozac?

> If

> so do we wait this out or does this behavior warrant a change in meds soon?

>

> Thanks so much for any feedback.

> Martha

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks so much for the pep talk. I needed it. Angie from Dr. G's office

ended up calling me last night to assure me this was part of the adjustment

to the new med.

Thanks again,

Martha

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:38 PM, <thecolemans4@...>wrote:

>

>

> Hey Martha,

> I dunno about the screaming - I hope someone can help you with that.

> Re the initial effects of prozac, it's hard to say. Sometimes upping the

> dose after the first two weeks takes care of it.

> If it is ok, you probably want to stick with it at least until that 2 week

> mark, but if things progress much worse you may have to push more at the

> office to see what to do. Every once in a while, reactions can be so

> intense that they don't make it two weeks, but most of the time you want to

> hang in there. Usually 6 days isn't enough to find out how it will benefit

> him, and those first few days can really be rough. What you need to observe

> most is whether you see improvement in or diminishing of the eye contact,

> how alert he is, and how his focus is.

> Sometimes when an SSRI is going to actually be a good fit, the emotions can

> be more brittle. We see 'negative' behaviors that can sometimes be a

> positive sign.

> Just trying to give a bit of a pep talk while you wait it out, if that's

> what the doc suggests, which, unless there are more things like foggy brain,

> etc, he probably will (if not saying increase it lol).

> HTH

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Martha Wood <marthawood70@... <marthawood70%40gmail.com>>

> " groups (DOT) com " < <%40>

> >

> Sent: Tue, May 4, 2010 7:28:46 PM

> Subject: High Pitched Screaming and Emotional Outbursts

>

>

>

> Hello listmates,

> We have been concerned for some time with our sons high pitched screaming.

> A

> vocal stim? He usually does this when excited about something. Of course

> this does not go over well in the school setting. We have not come across

> another child that does this, and are unsure as to how to handle it.

> Discipline? He is five now and this remains one of the main " attention

> drawing " behaviors that we cannot seem to overcome. Is there anyone on this

> list that can give some counsel on this?

>

> Also, we are on day 6 of Prozac and are highly concerned. We have already

> called Dr. G's office but have been told we may not get a reply

> until Thursday. Our son is having these terrible emotional outbursts much

> like tantrums. This is highly unusual because he is so easy going and sweet

> tempered. Has anyone experienced this with an SSRI change or with Prozac?

> If

> so do we wait this out or does this behavior warrant a change in meds soon?

>

> Thanks so much for any feedback.

> Martha

>

>

[Guest guest]

ka,

He is not nonverbal anymore but severely apraxic and language delayed. It is

a great idea to give him a phrase to substitute for the scream. We will

definitely try this.

Thanks again for the tips.

Martha

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:32 PM, ka <erickawaymorgan@...>wrote:

>

>

> HI,

> In my teaching experiences I have known children with autism who were

> " screamers " . I usually treated this as an attempt to communicate.....albeit

> communicating in an inappropriate way. It usually happened during times of

> intense excitement or emotion. The children I have known who did this were

> mainly nonverbal. Is your child nonverbal? One thing that does seem to

> work is teaching the child an appropriate phrase to use in those situations.

> I would add that i have seen one very gentle, loving mother use a

> technique of covering the child's mouth. She wasn't doing it in an angry

> way....and i think she had actually learned this as a technique. maybe some

> one else here will know more about that? I hope so, ka

>

> " Mom, I'm 6 years old now. I think I'm old enough to cut my own hair! "

>

>

>

>

> From: Martha Wood <marthawood70@... <marthawood70%40gmail.com>>

> Subject: High Pitched Screaming and Emotional Outbursts

> " groups (DOT) com " < <%40>

> >

> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:28 PM

>

>

>

>

> Hello listmates,

>

> We have been concerned for some time with our sons high pitched screaming.

> A

>

> vocal stim? He usually does this when excited about something. Of course

>

> this does not go over well in the school setting. We have not come across

>

> another child that does this, and are unsure as to how to handle it.

>

> Discipline? He is five now and this remains one of the main " attention

>

> drawing " behaviors that we cannot seem to overcome. Is there anyone on this

>

> list that can give some counsel on this?

>

> Also, we are on day 6 of Prozac and are highly concerned. We have already

>

> called Dr. G's office but have been told we may not get a reply

>

> until Thursday. Our son is having these terrible emotional outbursts much

>

> like tantrums. This is highly unusual because he is so easy going and sweet

>

> tempered. Has anyone experienced this with an SSRI change or with Prozac?

> If

>

> so do we wait this out or does this behavior warrant a change in meds soon?

>

> Thanks so much for any feedback.

>

> Martha

>

>

[Guest guest]

hi,

I am so glad i could help! I think it will work for you!-ka

" Mom, I'm 6 years old now. I think I'm old enough to cut my own hair! "

> >

> > From: Martha Wood <marthawood70@...

> <marthawood70%40gmail.com>>

> > Subject: High Pitched Screaming and Emotional

> Outbursts

> > " groups (DOT) com " <

> <%40>

> > >

> > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:28 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello listmates,

> >

> > We have been concerned for some time with our sons

> high pitched screaming.

> > A

> >

> > vocal stim? He usually does this when excited about

> something. Of course

> >

> > this does not go over well in the school setting. We

> have not come across

> >

> > another child that does this, and are unsure as to how

> to handle it.

> >

> > Discipline? He is five now and this remains one of the

> main " attention

> >

> > drawing " behaviors that we cannot seem to overcome. Is

> there anyone on this

> >

> > list that can give some counsel on this?

> >

> > Also, we are on day 6 of Prozac and are highly

> concerned. We have already

> >

> > called Dr. G's office but have been told we may not

> get a reply

> >

> > until Thursday. Our son is having these terrible

> emotional outbursts much

> >

> > like tantrums. This is highly unusual because he is so

> easy going and sweet

> >

> > tempered. Has anyone experienced this with an SSRI

> change or with Prozac?

> > If

> >

> > so do we wait this out or does this behavior warrant a

> change in meds soon?

> >

> > Thanks so much for any feedback.

> >

> > Martha

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Look UP pursuit of research web site posts about Nutriiveda,big wows for

some kids in regards to language,we are using it for our son no wows o

language front as of yet but nice changes in calmness ,and general lovely

form

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Martha Wood <marthawood70@...> wrote:

> ka,

> He is not nonverbal anymore but severely apraxic and language delayed. It

> is

> a great idea to give him a phrase to substitute for the scream. We will

> definitely try this.

> Thanks again for the tips.

> Martha

>

> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 8:32 PM, ka <erickawaymorgan@...

> >wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > HI,

> > In my teaching experiences I have known children with autism who were

> > " screamers " . I usually treated this as an attempt to

> communicate.....albeit

> > communicating in an inappropriate way. It usually happened during times

> of

> > intense excitement or emotion. The children I have known who did this

> were

> > mainly nonverbal. Is your child nonverbal? One thing that does seem to

> > work is teaching the child an appropriate phrase to use in those

> situations.

> > I would add that i have seen one very gentle, loving mother use a

> > technique of covering the child's mouth. She wasn't doing it in an angry

> > way....and i think she had actually learned this as a technique. maybe

> some

> > one else here will know more about that? I hope so, ka

> >

> > " Mom, I'm 6 years old now. I think I'm old enough to cut my own hair! "

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: Martha Wood <marthawood70@... <marthawood70%40gmail.com>>

> > Subject: High Pitched Screaming and Emotional Outbursts

> > " groups (DOT) com " < <%

> 40>

> > >

> > Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 8:28 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello listmates,

> >

> > We have been concerned for some time with our sons high pitched

> screaming.

> > A

> >

> > vocal stim? He usually does this when excited about something. Of course

> >

> > this does not go over well in the school setting. We have not come across

> >

> > another child that does this, and are unsure as to how to handle it.

> >

> > Discipline? He is five now and this remains one of the main " attention

> >

> > drawing " behaviors that we cannot seem to overcome. Is there anyone on

> this

> >

> > list that can give some counsel on this?

> >

> > Also, we are on day 6 of Prozac and are highly concerned. We have already

> >

> > called Dr. G's office but have been told we may not get a reply

> >

> > until Thursday. Our son is having these terrible emotional outbursts much

> >

> > like tantrums. This is highly unusual because he is so easy going and

> sweet

> >

> > tempered. Has anyone experienced this with an SSRI change or with Prozac?

> > If

> >

> > so do we wait this out or does this behavior warrant a change in meds

> soon?

> >

> > Thanks so much for any feedback.

> >

> > Martha

> >

> >