Re: Time to reexamine bipolar diagnosis in children?

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Elyse

In the long run it would be better to stop labeling kids and look at the

condition, health wise and not ID disease based on behavior. A rabid raccoon is

not acting crazy and aggressive, he is ill. Our kids are being treated for

aberrant behavior, So sad!

From: ElyseG <elyse-g@...>

Subject: Time to reexamine bipolar diagnosis in children?

Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 8:14 PM

 

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Pro/Con

Time to reexamine bipolar diagnosis in children?

Psychiatrists in favor of a new label, temper dysregulation disorder, cite a

spike in bipolar diagnoses. But others worry it will add uncertainty to the

treatment of an already confusing condition.

By n Borrell

Special to the Los Angeles Times

May 17, 2010

They are some of the most troubled children that psychiatrists ever see. They

have raging tempers and engage in reckless behaviors that frequently land them

in the principal's office, even the hospital. But are they bipolar?

In the last 15 years, diagnoses of bipolar disorder in children have skyrocketed

as much as fortyfold, according to some estimates. The condition — defined by

severe mood swings, between depression and mania, lasting for weeks or month at

a time — has traditionally been considered a lifelong condition in adults and

is treated through tranquilizers and antidepressants.

Some psychiatrists argue that many of these children are being misdiagnosed.

They worry that the medications the kids are prescribed could affect developing

nervous systems and say that the symptoms generally do not fit the traditional

guidelines for diagnosing bipolar disorder. Rather than having episodic mood

swings, these children tend to have temper outbursts that involve yelling and

physical aggression and are rarely in a positive mood for more than a day.

Doctors also note that many kids tend to grow out of these behaviors with time.

In a draft of the next edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of

Mental Disorders — the American Psychiatric Assn.'s bible — a new label,

temper dysregulation disorder with dysphoria, is proposed for these behaviors

instead. Unlike bipolar disorder, the new label doesn't specify that the

disorder is a lifelong condition.

But not all doctors are pleased with the proposed moniker. Some feel it may only

make the treatment issues more challenging. Treatment for bipolar disorder in

adults may not always work, but at least there were some generally accepted

guidelines, they say — whereas temper dysregulation disorder brings in a whole

new realm of uncertainty.

Read on for two competing views on the topic:

The new diagnosis will reduce inappropriate use of the bipolar label

Dr. le Carlson is the director of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at

Stony Brook University School of Medicine in New York.

Bipolar disorder has been over-diagnosed in children. One study suggests that

the diagnosis of bipolar disorder has gone up fortyfold since the mid-1990s, and

an analysis I did says it has gone up sevenfold in psychiatrically hospitalized

children. We simply can't have that much bipolar disorder out there. Re-labeling

children with explosive behaviors is accounting for this rise.

The reason I'd like to see a new label applied to these explosive behaviors is

that it will give doctors a diagnostic option. Some of the treatments may be

different, and the outcome is likely to be different. Bipolar disorder is a

lifelong disorder, and we need to be sure before calling something " lifelong. "

My view is that calling explosive children a special kind of bipolar muddies the

water.

Basically, around 10% kids come into our clinic with very explosive behavior,

and of those less than 2% of them actually have classic bipolar disorder. On our

inpatient unit, up to 90% of kids are admitted for explosive behavior and 14%

have observable mania — the key condition for bipolar disorder.

It's important to recognize that this controversy is about kids who are very

difficult to treat. However, kids with explosive disorders can have a lot of

things wrong with them; sometimes they are psychotic or autistic. The most

frequent alternate diagnosis is severe attention deficit hyperactivity disorder

with oppositional defiant disorder. We need a way to identify, reliably label

and study explosive children. Without that, nobody will fund research and nobody

will approve treatments for them.

In our current climate of insurance reimbursement, doctors cannot spend the time

they need to fully diagnose these kids. The problem is that kids are being

labeled with something we think we know, and which is lifelong. Even with the

new diagnosis, very often they may receive the same medication anyway —

because the medications are not that specific — but treatment may be more

short-term. It's like the difference between telling someone their high fever is

a symptom of the flu or it's the first sign of leukemia.

A new diagnosis is only going to confuse the field

Dr. Axelson is the director of the Child and Adolescent Bipolar Services

Clinic at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

I agree that bipolar disorder has been over-diagnosed at times, but I don't

think it's the disaster some people have been talking about. These are very sick

children we are trying to diagnose, who are failing out of school, assaulting

peers, attempting suicide and frequently getting hospitalized. It's appropriate

to say we don't want to lump all those kids into a bipolar disorder category,

but I am against creating a new label like temper dysregulation disorder.

Bipolar disorder clearly exists in adults. That's without question. And if you

look at adults who have bipolar disorder in the U.S., nearly 50% recall having

significant mood symptoms in childhood and adolescence. This isn't an illness

that started at age 25 to 30; it started when they were much younger.

I agree that it can be more difficult to assess manic symptoms in children than

in adults. One of the criteria in adults is episodes of recklessness: doing

pleasurable things that have a high chance of painful consequences — driving a

car fast, having sex with lots of people, shoplifting or spending money you

don't have. Scale that down to a 7-year-old and it's a lot harder to think about

what the equivalent symptoms would be: Doing wild things on a bike? Giving away

their possessions? Inappropriately exposing themselves?

Different disorders often require different treatments. If some of these kids

being diagnosed with bipolar actually have post-traumatic stress disorder, they

might respond to psychotherapy and an antidepressant. Others might do better on

a stimulant. The point is, I don't think we should be adding a new disorder

unless it is likely to have treatment relevance and have a unique

neurobiological basis. Bipolar disorder does respond to antipsychotic

medications, and the diagnosis has some treatment relevance. We don't know if

the same is true for temper dysregulation disorder.

People fear that a bipolar diagnosis will lead to doctors ignoring a child's

home and school environment. In our program, we take a holistic approach with

the kids, and a good part of the treatment and research we engage in is to help

improve communication between the child and family, or intervene in the school.

For instance, we may recommend that a child diagnosed with bipolar disorder

adjust their regular class schedule during periods of mood instability or go to

emotional support classes. In short, I think we need to be careful about bipolar

diagnosis, but I don't see the need for a new label.

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Every once in a while, there might be a good reason to seek a diagnosis or

'label':

The only positive thing I can think about in having a label specific to a set of

diagnosis is that in some families, where the family is having a very difficult

time managing their kids, sometimes having a 'diagnosis' that matches up to

other children *may* help some people who see their kid's problems as

misbehavior and being bad to actually see them as having an illness, and instead

of being abusive to their kids, start seeing the 'condition' and start working

to solutions.

I work at a treatment center that does diagnostic testing.  The cost of a

diagnosis is pretty expensive, and when I'm talking to families who are

financially struggling and feeling guilty because they can't afford the testing

right now, I tell them the pros and cons.  I tell them I didn't have the

'formal testing' until my kid was 9 even though we knew at 2.  If there is

acceptance of the child in the family, I will usually 'give them 'permission'

- so to speak - to wait until they need a diagnosis for school etc.  But when

we hear problems in them family about how dad says there is nothing wrong with

the kid, he's just being bad ... that is when I would urge them to find the

resources to get diagnostic testing.

Parents accept reality when they can read something about their kids that

matches up to what they are seeing.  Then people who have been very impatient

and angry with their kids for 'being bad' might hold back a little and find some

willingness to try behavioral plans instead of just reacting.

I feel a lot of sadness for kids out there who have major behavioral problems

due to illness, allergies, add, 'autism', etc, where the parents can't think

outside of what they think they see, and they don't have any tools to cope with

the behavior, and these kids are, at best, yelled at all of the time, and at

worst, are often subjected to horrible abuse by parents that may be able to

control themselves better if they saw that their kids had a problem and weren't

just 'bad'.

All that said, the school brought in a consulting co and is wanting to diagnose

my second son on the spectrum, and I have been fighting giving him the label

quite strongly.  He has CFS, not autism.  It looks alike.  But I DO NOT want

him to have this diagnosis.  It isn't even correct - it's a huge stretch.

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From: Bill klimas <klimas_bill@...>

Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 7:56:13 PM

Subject: Re: Time to reexamine bipolar diagnosis in children?

 

Elyse

In the long run it would be better to stop labeling kids and look at the

condition, health wise and not ID disease based on behavior. A rabid raccoon is

not acting crazy and aggressive, he is ill. Our kids are being treated for

aberrant behavior, So sad!

From: ElyseG <elyse-g@...>

Subject: Time to reexamine bipolar diagnosis in children?

Date: Monday, May 17, 2010, 8:14 PM

 

latimes.com/news/health/la-he-pro-con-20100517,0,7882534.story

latimes.com

Pro/Con

Time to reexamine bipolar diagnosis in children?

Psychiatrists in favor of a new label, temper dysregulation disorder, cite a

spike in bipolar diagnoses. But others worry it will add uncertainty to the

treatment of an already confusing condition.

By n Borrell

Special to the Los Angeles Times

May 17, 2010

They are some of the most troubled children that psychiatrists ever see. They

have raging tempers and engage in reckless behaviors that frequently land them

in the principal's office, even the hospital. But are they bipolar?

In the last 15 years, diagnoses of bipolar disorder in children have skyrocketed

as much as fortyfold, according to some estimates. The condition — defined by

severe mood swings, between depression and mania, lasting for weeks or month at

a time — has traditionally been considered a lifelong condition in adults and

is treated through tranquilizers and antidepressants.

Some psychiatrists argue that many of these children are being misdiagnosed.

They worry that the medications the kids are prescribed could affect developing

nervous systems and say that the symptoms generally do not fit the traditional

guidelines for diagnosing bipolar disorder. Rather than having episodic mood

swings, these children tend to have temper outbursts that involve yelling and

physical aggression and are rarely in a positive mood for more than a day.

Doctors also note that many kids tend to grow out of these behaviors with time.

In a draft of the next edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of

Mental Disorders — the American Psychiatric Assn.'s bible — a new label,

temper dysregulation disorder with dysphoria, is proposed for these behaviors

instead. Unlike bipolar disorder, the new label doesn't specify that the

disorder is a lifelong condition.

But not all doctors are pleased with the proposed moniker. Some feel it may only

make the treatment issues more challenging. Treatment for bipolar disorder in

adults may not always work, but at least there were some generally accepted

guidelines, they say — whereas temper dysregulation disorder brings in a whole

new realm of uncertainty.

Read on for two competing views on the topic:

The new diagnosis will reduce inappropriate use of the bipolar label

Dr. le Carlson is the director of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at

Stony Brook University School of Medicine in New York.

Bipolar disorder has been over-diagnosed in children. One study suggests that

the diagnosis of bipolar disorder has gone up fortyfold since the mid-1990s, and

an analysis I did says it has gone up sevenfold in psychiatrically hospitalized

children. We simply can't have that much bipolar disorder out there. Re-labeling

children with explosive behaviors is accounting for this rise.

The reason I'd like to see a new label applied to these explosive behaviors is

that it will give doctors a diagnostic option. Some of the treatments may be

different, and the outcome is likely to be different. Bipolar disorder is a

lifelong disorder, and we need to be sure before calling something " lifelong. "

My view is that calling explosive children a special kind of bipolar muddies the

water.

Basically, around 10% kids come into our clinic with very explosive behavior,

and of those less than 2% of them actually have classic bipolar disorder. On our

inpatient unit, up to 90% of kids are admitted for explosive behavior and 14%

have observable mania — the key condition for bipolar disorder.

It's important to recognize that this controversy is about kids who are very

difficult to treat. However, kids with explosive disorders can have a lot of

things wrong with them; sometimes they are psychotic or autistic. The most

frequent alternate diagnosis is severe attention deficit hyperactivity disorder

with oppositional defiant disorder. We need a way to identify, reliably label

and study explosive children. Without that, nobody will fund research and nobody

will approve treatments for them.

In our current climate of insurance reimbursement, doctors cannot spend the time

they need to fully diagnose these kids. The problem is that kids are being

labeled with something we think we know, and which is lifelong. Even with the

new diagnosis, very often they may receive the same medication anyway —

because the medications are not that specific — but treatment may be more

short-term. It's like the difference between telling someone their high fever is

a symptom of the flu or it's the first sign of leukemia.

A new diagnosis is only going to confuse the field

Dr. Axelson is the director of the Child and Adolescent Bipolar Services

Clinic at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

I agree that bipolar disorder has been over-diagnosed at times, but I don't

think it's the disaster some people have been talking about. These are very sick

children we are trying to diagnose, who are failing out of school, assaulting

peers, attempting suicide and frequently getting hospitalized. It's appropriate

to say we don't want to lump all those kids into a bipolar disorder category,

but I am against creating a new label like temper dysregulation disorder.

Bipolar disorder clearly exists in adults. That's without question. And if you

look at adults who have bipolar disorder in the U.S., nearly 50% recall having

significant mood symptoms in childhood and adolescence. This isn't an illness

that started at age 25 to 30; it started when they were much younger.

I agree that it can be more difficult to assess manic symptoms in children than

in adults. One of the criteria in adults is episodes of recklessness: doing

pleasurable things that have a high chance of painful consequences — driving a

car fast, having sex with lots of people, shoplifting or spending money you

don't have. Scale that down to a 7-year-old and it's a lot harder to think about

what the equivalent symptoms would be: Doing wild things on a bike? Giving away

their possessions? Inappropriately exposing themselves?

Different disorders often require different treatments. If some of these kids

being diagnosed with bipolar actually have post-traumatic stress disorder, they

might respond to psychotherapy and an antidepressant. Others might do better on

a stimulant. The point is, I don't think we should be adding a new disorder

unless it is likely to have treatment relevance and have a unique

neurobiological basis. Bipolar disorder does respond to antipsychotic

medications, and the diagnosis has some treatment relevance. We don't know if

the same is true for temper dysregulation disorder.

People fear that a bipolar diagnosis will lead to doctors ignoring a child's

home and school environment. In our program, we take a holistic approach with

the kids, and a good part of the treatment and research we engage in is to help

improve communication between the child and family, or intervene in the school.

For instance, we may recommend that a child diagnosed with bipolar disorder

adjust their regular class schedule during periods of mood instability or go to

emotional support classes. In short, I think we need to be careful about bipolar

diagnosis, but I don't see the need for a new label.

health@...

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