Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 You're absolutely right that processing can be a very simple process. Home food processors are called processors for a reason, because it's a processing. *But* when you are talking about major corporations and food processing, we are talking about things that strip the food down, make it easier to use, make it last longer, make it stay fresh, etc. This isn't your dicer, slicer, mincer, etc. It's a very different process. It's like curing meat. I like to buy uncured bacon and ham from trader joe's or whole foods. I'm not opposed to cured meat. As a matter of fact, smoke cured meat is drool worthy in my book. But the curing process in most commercial meats is a chemical cure, not a natural cure. They want to cure the meat faster and so chemicals it is. Processing isn't bad, it's the *type* of processing that matters. Making flour isn't a bad thing. Anyone can make flour. I can grab some grain and grind it into flour in my food processor. So I do think there needs to be a distinction made between natural processed foods vs. unnatural processed foods. BTW, I never knew they took the heart out of peanuts to make peanut butter! Cheryl ~http://www.gryffins-tail.blogspot.com ~@midian42~ On Apr 12, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Bill klimas wrote: > Cheryl > i agree. When Dr G told me peanut butter is OK but peanuts were not I research how they make peanut butter. Yes the only ingredient in natural peanut butter is peanuts but if you go to the history of peanut butter the machines they use remove the heart/seed that is the actual growing heart of a nut. The chemicals in the heart (they are generally very bitter) is very different than peanut hearts. Most allergy specialists will tell you peanuts and far worse than peanut butter. Go Figure! > > In reality processing can be a simple mechanical process that may well remove a sheath or heart of the wheat seed. I just have never been able to determine what that process changes about the chemical composition. It is not necessarily about preservatives or additives. Most likely it is about taste, hence peanut butter missing the bitter heart! (And a wide range of hormones and potential triggers that may well be behind the reaction) > > > > > > > > > > From: Kristy Nardini <knardini@roadrunne r .com> > > > > > > > > Subject: RE: Re: Was: Daiya cheese! Now: Disallowed dietary items > > > > > > > > groups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 10:40 AM > > > > > > > > I eliminated soy from my son’s diet before we started with Dr. G. I had > > > > > > > > taken him off it for two weeks, then reintroduced it, and his behavior made > > > > > > > > it very clear he did not tolerate soy. Plus, soy kind of freaks me out, > > > > > > > > especially for boys. My son has not had soy for 5 years. > > > > > > > > Kristy Nardini > > > > > > > > TazziniTM Stainless Steel Bottles > > > > > > > > www.tazzini. com > > > > > > > > kristytazzini (DOT) com > > > > > > > > Phone: 858.243.1929 > > > > > > > > Fax: 858.724.1418 > > > > > > > > P Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > > > > > > > From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:] On Behalf Of Dahlia > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 7:17 AM > > > > > > > > groups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Was: Daiya cheese! Now: Disallowed dietary items > > > > > > > > Can someone please explain to me why Dr. G has no problem with -- even > > > > > > > > RECOMMENDS -- *soy*, but keeps cutting all kinds of other things from the > > > > > > > > diet? I am becoming increasingly frustrated with this aspect of the protocol > > > > > > > > and to be honest, I don't think most of the recent eliminations have made a > > > > > > > > bit of difference.I just hate constantly telling my son that " no, Dr. > > > > > > > > Goldberg said you can't have this thing that you love anymore because it > > > > > > > > makes you sick, " especially when there are OTHER things that I think could > > > > > > > > be more likely to be causing a problem. I would LIKE to eliminate soy from > > > > > > > > his diet but haven't because none of the comparable substitutes are allowed! > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, wow! Just discovered that caesin is what has been causing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behavioral issues with my son. I have been reading up on GFCF diets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we have been gluten free since around age 2. (at that time, my > > > > > > > > son > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > had speech; also, he had no milk...only soy...and it just dawned on > > > > > > > > me). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, I have this problem. My son LOVES his GF pizza. I cannot find a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > substitute for cheese. What do I do? What do I do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can substitute soy icecream for Mayfield vanilla. I can change his > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > breakfast from Rice Krispies with milk to Fresh Fruit and sausage > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > juice and filtered water. I can change from Ranch dressing to one > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without milk base. (Although, I would like to know how to make a > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tasting caesin free ranch type dressing, if anyone knows a recipe?) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can even leave off the margarine, which for us does contain > > > > > > > > caesin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I do not know what to do about the cheese!!! What do I do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw Veggie Slices, but they have caesin also. What does everyone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > here do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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